Do not buy an EV without watching this reality check | Auto Expert John Cadogan 

Hey John, here in Seattle streets had most potholes, cracks everywhere, kinda unavoidable ….riding in my friend’s new Tesla I realized it’s aggravating to my neck hernias now I have to wear brace to buffer painful impacts. …So can this mess up its 7kbatteries bed to damaged it faster¿ or am I just being paranoid about this ¿

There is a story about EV buses in the US that has not gone to plan, Maybe you can find it as I don't know which state it was.

John, do you know why they stopped just 130k out of sydney, No doubt you know that topping up the last 20% is the slowest so why intentionally head to a 350KW charger while your battery is still so full and would charge so slowly? I get that many people don't know how evs work and optimally charge- but you do don't you?

Tempted to enquire how hairy you are, but wont… 4 minutes spent on how to remove hair on your junk? Manscaped rolled out a wheelbarrow of cash for this one? (Would have been nice with a warning that you’d spend an eternity promoting a f’kin razor - meanwhile I was in the shower listening to your otherwise informative and entertaining YT, covered in soap; freshly shaved! and having to endure a f’kin commercial! The reason I now -after YT canceled the YTlite subscription- use an ad-blocker!! So; thanks. Now I know what brand never to pay money for! All that said; really dig your channel - keep up the good work!👍🏼

Says the man who clearly needs to shave more often!

the EV didn't even finish the trip, he gave up as it was too frustrating.

Do you remember the youtube channel mate?

@@Tim_Hilux Geoff Buys cars and the MacMaster. They both have separate channels. They have since done North Wales to South Wales with similar result.

@@Tim_Hilux Geoff buys cars and the MacMaster, think that's how it's spelled.

Those two dudes are excellent value. Particularly Jeff (JeffBuysCars).

Would you have to unhitch the caravan each time you charge it or does the average charging station accommodate EV and caravan?

Unless you can pull up along side a charger maybe something intended for a small commercial vehicle, I'm fairly sure that most consumer charging stations here in the UK would not accommodate a car & caravan. So you would need to drop off the caravan, go charge, then pick it back up, and doing this every 60-70 miles or so with the example Skoda seems bonkers.

Just fit a 10 liter fuel tank to make your ICE comparable to the EV and it will still be quicker to "recharge" Problem solved! I'm an ideas man finding solutions for the guvviment lol

Just include a gasoline powered generator in your tow package😂

So basically it's a good tow car provided your not towing, makes sense😊.

Not long ago this was the credo of the EV owners. "Ha ha, no more waiting at the gas station. We're electric!".

Statistically you will spend 8.6 hours a year filling up your car at the petrol station because you have no choice But too. An EV is charge up at home 98% of the year making the time spent wasted only 1.5 hours a year . 😂😂 food for thought

​@sheepyracing2774 yeah, food for thought unless you live in an apartment or condo like many do. So do I get a 500ft power cord to attach to my EV from my 3rd floor apartment window? Food for thought eh?

@@nasimwehbe8410 tesla supply you with a form to that allows you to add power to your designated underground car park for apartment and units . Then you’ll say oh I park on the street well obviously you can’t afford a tesla if you have to park on the street , meaning don’t buy one in the first place . So yes ,food for thought .😀😂

@@dk-bw4gkmines got a ‘full tank’ every morning. Our 250 km return trips to Melbourne cost

You train people are all the same. You're just not willing to accept that times move forward. We have trams, now.

Good luck trying to take a train from Sydney to Melbourne using overhead electric wires.

@@russellmoore1533 You are right. My dream would be a high speed train from Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra to Melbourne. Realistically it's not going to happen.

@@coweatsman It would cost about half as much as those damn submarines. And could be probably be delivered sooner.

@@waynec3563 Yeah and the Chinese would be very scared of your 'lectric train -duuuuude....

I’ve never seen 7.5L V8 and LPG in the same sentence before and I’m 64. Kudos.

Yep, he’s familiar and he’s done video sometime ago from that exact location when having EV charging issues. And was only going from CBR to SYD.

I wonder if any of those folks waiting in line know they've been conned?

I trust you gave them a cheery blip of your accelerator when you left, the music of your eight pistons helping to soothe their nerves and brighten their day!

Near here LPG can be obtained not much more reliably than non-Tesla EV charging.

And they have a trip computer whose range plummets as the city disappears in the rear view mirror after indicating only one stop for recharging.

They are not supposed to leave the city.@@rogerpearson9081

1000km per week? That would be simple in an EV. Charge at home at night, Done.

@@ajc5479 Unfortunately she lives in a small flat with her two cats, and has to park the car on the road a few blocks over, and she just can't find an extension lead long enough.

@@jluke168 How would you know where she lives? That's a creepy reply from you.

​@@ajc5479 She told me because I'm kind and honest. You, she said, are a manipulative a-hole, and she never wants to see you staring up at her windows again.

@@phillipbanes5484 So some random guy knows who the original commentator was talking about and where she lives. And you don't find that strange or creepy? WTF is wrong with you?

Yeah 100% that amount _extra_ on a car is horrendous.

And what about cost of insurance coverage for it.

gas stations need electricity to work

@@vanmego433 And cars powered by Gas or Diesel have twice the range of an EV... what's your point?

@@vanmego433 No electricity required for your 20litre jerry can.

It feels like a bandwagon is being jumped on, by both sides of this choice and the important word there is "choice". If you live rurally, like you've said you do, I don't think an EV is compelling, but most Aussies live in cities so the choice for them could be different. The biggest factor, IMO, is if you have access to a power point when you park your car each night. What's quite annoying is how hard it is for, apartment dwellers, to get chargers put in the parking areas, but at least most of them have off street parking. If you live somewhere without off street parking an EV is a poor choice, unless you drive to work and can charge there. I'm aware of a couple of councils trying different ways of facilitating on street charging, I imagine it will only work in richer areas though, otherwise arseholes will, probably, vandalise or destroy it. 😒

@@Cluueyspot on. Don’t need these long trips don’t get an EV. EV is the perfect runaround for families with 2 cars in and around cities. Not so great for people who need to drive long distances.

That’s a magical vehicle you have to drive to Tassie.

@@craigdavid6668 Yes their numbers dont add up even if you squint, I suspect it was on a boat for most of it

wait for the road tax that EV are not paying at present. apples with apples not oranges.

Legend.🇦🇺

With no deprecating and comfort my deprecating budget is $100 to $200 per week but I keep the mileage down so I can get a reasonable trade. Imagine what the $90k EV is worth at 10 years old . You V8 collector car will be going up in value.

Those cars and their relatives are surprisingly efficient for having such big engines, especially on the highway. In much of the USA they were the usual police cars back in the day.

Shhh...don't tell the Greenies, lefties and JSO.

Your V8 has better fuel economy than a hybrid Camry? Pull the other one

Cost of charging will triple very shortly so enjoy while u can😮

In an ICE here in the US a 180 miles trip would have cost you about 10~12 bucks... and have taken a lot less time. So congrats you played yourself.

@@rodshoaf My solar panels have been up for over 6 years and have more than paid for themself. All it costs me using my own power is 5 cents a kilowatt. My car uses 13 kilowatts hrs per 100 kilometres. 65 cents for every 100 kilometers or in your language 60 miles. Eat your heart out.

@@TARBUNNY2013 I have had my solar panels up for over 6 years, it cost me 5 cents a kilowatt hour, and I can travel 100 kilometers for 65 cents.

​​@@Kickatubealong That's great, but not everyone owns their own house and can install solar and/ or charge at home. Your EV sounds great for you. But they don't, and never will, suit everyone. They are a niche product.

Good point, we take for granted the generous weather protections at service stations.

Agreed - so, not much of a break from driving at midnight, in the rain.

You’re right it would be an offence to make your wife drive 500kms a day and only relying on superchargers at night😂 but instead the average Australian only drives 36.4km day making your statement as ridiculous as it seems

@@sheepyracing2774 maybe if you're in the city, which makes you're view as narrow as it seems. 100km+ of highway driving per workday is not unusual for those not in a large urban centre, but here we are in a huge push to take any suitable car for these people off the market in under 5 years. You also fail to take into account several industries these kind of daily distances and delays will sky rocket prices for. Security, ubers, cabs, small transport....... these are all places running 75% or more of battery ranges on an average day and run 12-24 hrs non stop, the downtime for charging or redundancy systems either pushes prices up, reduces quality of service or both.

@@lucasvyner1502 making fringe cases for companies with a 24hour roster isn’t your problem. It’s there own issue to sort out. They can simply buy more EVs and switch them over if it’s such an issue . Wait 5 years and battery tech might reach the same as a diesel . Most electric cars are already reaching distance that if petrol/gas cars. you don’t want to be the one investing in the horse a buggy economy in the 1920s . Let’s just say a lot of you are going to be left behind ..

I don’t hear much about Tesla issues re carjacked…..very paranoid riding on my friend’s new T around Seattle. ..4 mos old, already had problems with doors not locking properly, she can’t lock car when I’m sitting inside, makes no sense.

Enough said….

At least if you get car jacked, they're not going to make it far.

I can't believe that is costs that much...fortunately we have diesels and petrols...so anything that isn't peak hour or a quick run around...then I take another car. But I'm pretty sure the Kona added about maybe $400 to the power bill. ...it was never a cost saver or anything my dad bought an AMG in the same week (would have gone a Macan) but he knew he didn't have that long... But Mr. Codogan is absolutely right about ditching the "economy" tyres as soon as possible. It makes I imagine any EV a different car. But unless you've got off street parking and you do want the 7.7kW charger. But it has to be a second car... For those against EV's, range anxiety isn't a thing once you know the car...driving in traffic is great, they're awesome because you can dart in and out of gaps in the traffic easily...but if you're on the highway all the time. Buy a petrol.

@@85priestydarting in and out of traffic. Top move for little gain and high risk. You da man Nigel

Well, bully for you Rambo...what a hero!

Ev technology will advance quickly, once range tops 1000klm and there’s a charger on every corner I’ll look at it like millions of other I guess. Hybrid safe middle ground for now

Thanks mate.

John, did you find it surprising that on they way back she charged for $37.81 just outside her home? Divided by the 65c a kwh that means she added over 58kwh when she didn't need to and could have just charged at home. Isn't that a bit odd? @@AutoExpertJC

@@toyotastout6870Hi mate. I've not read the article but I don't know where she lives but I can guess a few reasons as to why. If it's a house it could be because it takes ages to charge on a standard outlet. She could also be in an apartment and unable to charge. The strata at mine specifically forbids charging in the carpark for example.

240v * 10a is 2400w so 2.4kw 58/2.4=24.167 hours charging. I'd pay $37 to not wait too

Remember you don't 'wait' when you charge anything overnight and you don't need to charge to full just enough for the next day.@@Kilometrico88

Or isn't legislated out of existence....

@@davidnobular9220 They will have a damn hard time doing that. The protests seen in Melbourne during covid lock downs or the truckers protests in Canada will look like a family picnic gathering in comparison.

No stress there mate! Petrol stations are still being built. Seen 3 this week. They know the future 😂

What worries me is what was done to those truckers because electronic money was used to control them (ie blocking of donations etc)

Road tripped a hybrid 2022 corrola in adelaide 3.6l per 100kms 50 bux of unleaded 1000od kms friend had the non hybrid sitting on 4.8l

@@adob5573 I referred to the speculations of both the petrol and hybrid Camry and looked the cost and fuel consumption benefit would have been if I'd bought a hybrid Camry instead of the petrol one. I worked on some 'ball park' figures. The difference in the fuel consumption is 2.6 litres per 100 klms. I do around 7,500 klms per year. That's about 195 litres of extra fuel (3 full tanks) per year that I use more than a hybrid. Equals about $436 per year saving if I'd gone for the hybrid. It would take about 4.5 years for me to whittle away the additional purchase cost of the hybrid. Obviously, if you do more klms the benefit sways more towards the hybrid, but for me, there's very little benefit.

How did the witch get into this story? Was she using a Electric Broom or an ICB? Must be really cold flying a broom in -25C, the slipstream would go right up your skirt and freeze the Lady Department.

@@csjrogerson2377 letterkenny - mother hutchins... there was a whistling sound.

I hear ya. About 25 years ago I went to visit a good friend who was working at Whistler Blackcomb and this was in late November. I had gone for a trek one late morning to explore the beautiful area. I saw a beautiful cub exploring the next hill about 1km away and it was followed by its mama Brown Bear. Luckily they are quite far away on the next hill and thus I was not on their takeaway menu for their hibernations. Where I am living now, it is a 45km journey (and 300m elevation) to reach the next city. I will take my ICE car any day over an EV.

Good points made, Substitute + 35 C for your -25C and a similar situation here.

@@robames1293 the interior of british columbia can be over +40C in summer. the record was set a few years ago, +49C in lytton.

I have driven one for over 2 years and have no issues. The Uk has a pretty good charging network though nowadays and most of my charging is at home.

​@@vannicrider7953yet again an ev jockey that doesn't get it!!! You provide your experience as evidence of no issues yet you openly admit mostly charging at home! Lol

My EV literally drops the range 40% when it is cold outside. At least it is honest. If I need to go more than 100 miles in a day I take my ICE van.

My EV literally drops the range 40% when it is cold outside. At least it is honest. If I need to go more than 100 miles in a day I take my ICE van.

Also add the loss in range in the mountains or against a 30 MPH headwind, which holds true for ICE vehicles, too. I was driving my diesel powered motor home into just such a head wind (it has enough power I didn't notice) and when I filled up I found my fuel economy decreased by 30%. I generally don't have range anxiety in the motor home as it has a 150 gallon tank. I would have been stuck in the middle of the desert with an EV motor home.

I’m waiting for the reality to kick in for EV owners stuck on a closed or reduced lane freeway in blazing hot conditions going nowhere and needing to sacrifice power consumption because they are about to go flat and therefore causing another major road blockage.

australia's for sure, you wouldn't make it from charger to charger in antarctica unless they built them every 10 kms.

😂

One region favours ICE ?

Bwahahaha.

You made an informed choice when getting your EV. For your driving habits you knew that there was no need to use a public charger. They are GREAT for local driving, as that is what they were originally intended for. (Reducing pollution in high density cities and such.) Not alot of smog in the boondicks relative to a downtown no matter where you live. To me it is like needed a massive 4x4 when you live in the mountains and rough terrain. A smart choice if you are a rancher and need to be able to get around all the time. A bad choice if you commute 15 km each way to work and back and expect low fuel cost. Buy a vehicle based on your actual driving needs, not just because one is an ICE and the other an EV.

The only time I needed a public charger with my Nissan Leaf is when I started out with 190 mile range and drove 75 miles but upon starting my return trip my range was only 50 miles due to it being cold outside. That was fun, it was dark, and cold, and my 2 and 5 year old were in the car. Started to panic a little but I called my wife who was able to locate a charger within 15 miles that luckily was unoccupied and I stopped there and charged enough to get home. I will not take the car anywhere now unless I have at least twice the range I need.

For the most Tesla is in prosess of open allmost all Tesla SuperCharger location for other ev’s as well. You just need to download the Tesla app, and register your credit card. At least in Skandinavia and most of Europe. Its not that big a differanse pricewice either…

Maybe hyper-miling in electric vehicles could become a thing.....if only to get near the estimated range.....

Jesus Delivers.

@@AndyRRR0791 Be it Electric or otherwise.....

I've seen that as well.

Yeah nah. It's EV hate - there are plenty of excellent use cases for evs, and yes, plenty of detractors. As much as he treats it as a ~ side issue, the guts of this video surrounds the incredibly poor charging infrastructure we have in this country rather than there being anything particularly "wrong" with evs themselves.... And yeah I agree if you're doing ~500km a day, day in, day out you'd be mad to own an ev at this point in time (unless your journey happened to start and stop on top of a charging station - and even then diesel would be cheaper).... But if you only do ~100km a day, charging entirely at home is doable, and cheap.... .... But why do we have poor charging infrastructure (compared to most developed countries)? Because of the fossil fuel industry and it's sway over our media. and the constant barrage of "ev's will kill your weekend" fluff like this video.... Given our unrivaled access to ALL of the raw materials required for an entirely in-house, end to end renewable energy industry, along with pretty much year round sun, it's a crying shame we aren't a world leader in generation and storage... and electric vehicles.

​@@rohansprenger6902see you lot pull out the hard done by card in defence of EV'S. Why? I assume bad habit. Facts! That is what I just heard. It is an issue. Just because you don't like facts doesn't give you the right to be accuse individual of doing poor work or worse. Or are you suggesting it was all made up?

@@0AusSelective facts are not facts.

@@mamba101 Lol. Do you want to let the individuals at Macquarie dictionary know they have miss defined what a fact is? Or would you like a moment to rethink/delete that lol comment? 😆👍

@@mamba101 I hope you don't mind I grabbed a screen shot of that attempt. Lol hearing the short comings and serious safety issues battery cars have real effects You doesn't it? Box breathing, yep you should learn box breathing. 😉👌

No but it needs electricity to run the pump and a cashier to rob you!

Ev owners don't drive.

Tbh driving long distance is often cheeper especially when u factor in having to hire a car at your destination to get around, even u uber everywhere it still ends up about the same as a rental. Recently traveled to Newcastle from Melbourne, to hire a car for the 3 days were there would've cost about 500$ on top of flights for 3 people. It cost me about 200$ total in fuel (xr6 turbo) plus lunches ended up about 260 for the whole trip. Sometimes it's cheaper. Though if I was going to Perth or something then it's obviously cheaper to fly.

Millions of factories pumping shit in the air and water. 3rd world countries dumping waste in the ocean. and they want me to feel bad about a little co2 that my car produces??? o_0 Greenwashing bs joke

It's actually a very green option, in terms of lifecycle.

@@AutoExpertJC Have a 23 year old merc damm i might be green

Belted up ? Ha ha!

You actually proved the point he is making. You admit EV's require a change in driving habits and schedules. In other words, someone else is determining your lifestyle and decisions.

Adding 2 hours to your driving day can't be good for fatigue - not to mention stress/anxiety.

Main thing is con artist Blackout Bowen gets to keep his job/perks.

Don't generalise, many people buy electric cars for the driving experience and the interaction with the tech in the car. Thinking about pollution and the environment doesn't come into it. This is one of the fallacies perpetuated on this channel, although I'm sure many ev buyers do buy them for these reasons, but it sure isn't all of them.

@@wigs1098 EV ? Driving experience? Give over

@@g8ymw I have just bought an EV as a primary drive car when the numbers made sense (before now, they have not for me). I collected the car from Sydney and headed off back to Brisbane, having never even charged an EV before. What could go wrong? I'll qualify by saying I did prepare and get the relevant apps etc.. sorted before departure, and set off in the full knowledge that the worst case scenario was the flea bag motel so eloquently described by JC. Let me preface, too, by adding that I am not in any way an EV evangelist praying at the alter of Electric Jesus. Far from it, as I have been considering an EV, but it never added up for me in a way that made taking the plunge seem like a good idea (until now). The result for me during my virgin exposure to the world of EV touring between States was almost boring to report, but as there is so much ill-informed crap going on in the comments here, I had to add my actual experience. It was bloody easy, I have to say! I pre-planned the stops at which at least one charging station was operational at each location (charging infrastructure is a disgrace in Aus, but it still worked OK for me, which was a pleasant surprise after reading all the horror stories on the channel here and elsewhere). I spent a total of $65 at fast chargers and a total of 23 minutes charging up over the two days of travel. To clarify why two days, I flew to Sydney on day one to collect the car, and was on my way home from the dealer by about 2:30pm, so it was an overnight stop or drive into the night option. I chose to stop. I have to say it was the cheapest and easiest drive Sydney to Brisbane that could be imagined. The most surprising bit is that I was expecting highway range to plummet and drop before my eyes. At a constant 112km/hr (according to Waze) I was running at approximately 18kWhr per 100km, so a good 260km keeping the battery between 20% and 80%. I topped at one point to 90% to experiment, and range easily nudged into the mid 300s. Let's be clear, that's not a diesel tank range by any measure, but it was absolutely adequate to work between nominated stops, and definitely not plummeting into the low 200s as suggested. At one point, I stopped at a fast charger in Coffs Harbour, and charging was so quick, I barely had time to gulp down a drink and a breakfast roll, take a leak and the charge was done! Since that trip, my travel has been mostly around the city or between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast. All readily accessible to chargers, often free to use, and very convenient to my travels. Next step is the home charger because the standard plug in the wall is slooooooow as suggested by everyone, but works as a fallback if you need to top it back up and can wait interminably for it to charge. Should you buy an EV? Depends on where you live and drive, of course. Will it work? Probably, and it really does for me which is as big a surprise as anything - in a good way. As for driving enjoyment - I bought the EV6 GT and I can say with conviction it is a hoot to drive! An absolute Jekyll and Hyde car for a bloke who has owned more than 130 cars in his life, and knows a bit about what he does and does not like. The EV6 is good in every way for my use case. JC has lots of good points, and most of his videos are well-researched and mathematically spot on! But his opinion on everything is not necessarily definitive, as is the case here with some of the generalized conclusions from one specific use case. You can take that to the bank too.

⁠@@jasonhall7753I think people just need to get educated on the use of EVs. Plenty of people have reported similar experiences to yours. The lady in the article was not entirely prepared as much as she thought. I believe most types of chargers have RFID card options that you can order when you download the apps which is handy when you have no reception(thanks vodafail). Having said that it is ridiculous that they all don’t just have an eftpos credit card tap option. However, like you said the charging infrastructure definitely is way behind. Service stations generally make more profit from selling food and snacks than from selling petrol so it would make sense for them to invest in the infrastructure and have more than what they currently have on the freeways to encourage the uptake of evs. Unfortunately, most people don’t like change and will always prefer using what they know and what is most convenient for them. Like anything it will take time but eventually it will become the norm until something else more viable and sustainable come outs.

Yep, they already showed us during the last 3-4 years what they see us as, cattle. No freedom, no liberty, no privacy, no country or nation or culture, nothing. Just a corporate people farm.

Australia isn't like Europe.....sparce public charging in Oz, relatively loads in Europe...also, it's a huge place with a very small populace...no money in creating a vast charging infrastructure for so few folk....pity, although local pollution isn't really an issue..virtue signalling isn't very important in that part of the world either, so this country will embrace fossil fuels for as long as possible..

@@williammillard687 you are telling me nothing. I'm not American I understand what the rest of the world is like. I've been to Australia and New Zealand.

I think there's a place for EVs but I don't think they're ready for widespread use, until there's some huge improvements in battery technology.

I mean I wouldn't mid some public transport to solve the removing cars from the masses. I don't see a reason to own a car if public transit was a thing. But I live in a place where you couldn't get to a Walmart using public transit if you wanted to.

Sounds like you would like a Toyota Corolla, or the equivalent there. Except for the EV part. I think a lot of us would like to have an EV. But only those with too much money waste money on e-gadgets, status symbols, and making a statement.

Wifey has a Suzuki swift, be about the right size to electrify you would think. Nothing at a comparable price in an EV yet. Need more than EVs' alone in the electrify all stuff future. Using less fuel is a good start. My case use, an EV is good but its not like that for everyone yet.

Get a golf cart!

Same I'd love to give the big 6/1000km range 2 tonne ute range a rest from doing the pathetic tasks that involve bogan and imported drivers doing door damage and impacts and from the ultra-small carparks found around shopping centres but nothing Electric comes to mind.

@@Kenneth-ts7bp Oh pth..

Batteries don't like summer heat

No air con, just a straight up con.

It’s Cheaper to run aircon than have windows down on highways…I’m a fan of EVs in general, but it is pretty obvious to anyone who does their research that EVs aren’t designed to be efficient on highways and long trips. They won’t work for people wanting to tow or do long journeys. Not sure how this sort of thing is surprising to people.

The sinister work of Arc Vader...

Space Karens are very vocal.

Well, the National highways were in worse condition than the road outside my house. @@RealHooksy

​@@RealHooksyRoads?😂 our roads are rubbish!

@@RealHooksy ya got that right. 👍 However every many rds in dense areas are poor. For a mineral rich country we should have good infrastructure, quality education & health care. Unfortunately the Australian government is to busy squabbling and lining their pockets. Regardless you said it my man Australia is vast. 👍 Be good.

Exactly , and all those little compromises add up , and if you persist in owning an EV POS , its range will slowly diminish as time goes on , if we give it a total benefit of the doubt and even if it does not fail completely or even force you to replace the battery , those battery compromises with range , recharge points , inconvenience , extra cost , people also do not take into account how often on a trip you may have to divert or go the scenic route to find fill points making the trip even longer. Its almost cruel if not amusing there are diesel DUVS out there that easily do a thousand k`s to a tank on a trip , and if you own something like a diesel mondeo , they have been known to do 1300 k`s to a tank on a trip ! musk .... electric messiah was bragging about his POS cyborg truck having a range of 350 kilometres if i remember correctly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 , and i`m guessing thats best case scenario , and governments around the world are trying to mandate for us to buy this crap . All i will say is , dont forget boys and girls , you are voters , if these politician pricks want to force this crap on us , let them know they will be soon unemployed !

Maybe but even back then you could fill a container with petrol and top up in 5 minutes.

When the car was invented it ran on gas you could buy in a pharmacy. And every town has a pharmacy. So the problem wasn't fuel but reliability on a new technology that had to be tested out. The first ever ride was done by a woman: Berta Benz. There's documentarys on that on RU-vid

Imho, EV design is basically a failed tech forced upon the masses by global billionaires who appreciate the benefits of continuing to receive government subsidies in perpetuity to make their idea work. Of course we pay for those subsidies from our taxes but then also get to buy these overpriced EV's that depreciate in value faster then any other vehicle in the parking lot. We, the consumer, get it from every angle and not in a good way. EV's are not only dangerous but impractical particularly in countries like Australia that have large land masses. What I find amusing is how people can think that standing around for hours refilling the vehicles battery is in any way conducive to having enjoyable day out? My current diesel is the perfect fit for my caravaning lifestyle.

120 years ago EVs were being replaced by ICE cars.

What kills me more than the cost of charging vs the cost of fuel is no one is talking about the amount of "pollution" produced to extract the raw materials necessary for just 1 ev battery. I can tell you the mining trucks and front-end loaders and highway tractors are not plugged into a socket. This, of course, doesn't include the energy it takes to reduce the tons and tons of material that has to be separated down to get to the raw ingredients of the lithium and other toxic substances to produce the batteries. The next question I'd love these ev devotees to answer is, what is powering the electricity plant? Most power stations are coal fired. No one is factoring the carbon footprint of those in.

Having to connect to the internet to drive your car around is ridiculous.

They send an electric vehicle towing a diesel generator.....

Tow truck. Diesel I bet

Ha Ha Ha ha 😅😅😅

RAC has a van yes with a charher on it also cybertruck can charge other electric vehicles but the chances are a lot less than an ice car with a fuel gauge as the car has a computer analysing range constantly with range battery precentage left and messages will come up on the screen telling you to charge. you cant miss it.

Why even buy a vehicle then? The whole point is the freedom they give you…

@@billisdewillis5 Vehicles both ICE and EV both provide a certain utility for the consumer and for industry. EV do provide the user with lower fuel costs and a lower TCO. They make sense for certain businesses and certain consumers. They are not for everyone or for every use case. I don't recommend EVs who don't want to bother with the in-depth planning required for road tripping.

about an hour at a 50kw charger

I suspect that western Canada has the same issues as the western USA in that there is a lot of distance between gas stations much less charging stations. I've had range anxiety in my ICE Jeep in parts of west Texas and the western parts of Nebraska and South Dakota.

EVs range issues are even worse in Canada because of the cold.

Try that ev in alberta today at -39C. Should have enough charge to get to the corner store and back. What a joke

fffff, im even more north of that, on the other side of the planet though....

Woke madness on public money right there.

Yep! Have you thought it through?? She may very well used the vehicle returned home grabbed the kid and hit the road? Yet another example of why battery cars are turds, stop and wait penalties don't work in modern times.

You can - you carry a can of diesel to fill your generator!

🤣Great portability @@offshoretinker

This is true but you can emergency charge at every power point if you ask nicely@@offshoretinker

@@offshoretinker Even better, you can get a tow-ready EV, hitch a small trailer, and put the generator on it. This way you'd still have room in the car for the kids and the dog. Wait, now that I think about it, why not keep the generator running and keep it plugged into the EV while we drive. Now we only have to stop to fuel up the generator. No more range anxiety. I understand that EVs are designed to be charged only when stationary, but that can be changed, right? All we have to do is take the car somewhere and get the computer programming changed. Did I just give out a profitable business idea?

@@JasbirSingh-zj1fg isn't that what a "PHEV hybrid" is?

Still not everywhere yet though.

I can only imagine range anxiety in SA on dark night ‘out there’ would be a thousand times worse.

I agree with your feedback on the BMW i3. Because it's got a backup petrol engine, the range anxiety associated with electric vehicles basically doesnt exist. When I was working at a petrol station, an i3 came in. Cost the owner a shade over $12 to fill, and apparently costs around $250 a year in fuel to run. Brilliant city car - unlike the big tankers people seem to want to drive in the middle of town these days!

Yup spot on.

The majority of voters is in charge of competition policy in Australia. They elect idiots who hire idiots and make idiotic policy.

I suppose you are talking about Telstra. It costs them a lot of money to set up and maintain these towers out in the boonies so why should these other cheap carriers with 2 towers in the city get access to these outback towers without paying a fair amount for the access? I bet they don't want to pony up a decent amount and just leach off another telco who has put in the hard yards and actually got the hardware out there. You can still access any tower even if you are not with that carrier in an emergency so I am onside with Telstra in this. PS: I am not affiliated in any way with Telstra except as a customer on Boost.

@@rogerpearson9081 I understand your point. This, however, could have been done in a way that would have been financially beneficial for Telstra, after all, the NBN is a single entity that all providers contribute to.

which ironically reduces the range 😂😂 albeit just a bit.

definately, i did a 270km trip to wineries charged for 20 mins on arrival at the local woolies while doing a shop for supplies for the motel then drove around the wineries and that night charged from the accomodation to 100% then drove straight home next day after lunch no hassle at all.

You forgot to mention that theprice of each vehicle in this comparison if we were to try and replicate both car scenarios. This seriously needs to be taken into consideration when looking at replicating the two car scenarios. 2011 Toyota Corolla = $ 12 - $18K vs 2022/23 Hyunda Ionic $65-$85K. Also a regional servo charging point would not charge you at a 55c/KwH charge rate.

Yeah i had trouble with the fuel costs

A comment full of assumptions with no credibility. Peace Happiness ✌️ good Sir

Daily Mail and credibility in the same sentence; now there is a first.

@@TradArcherDownunder - at least all my assumptions are clearly defined. And assumptions that are clearly defined are fine; they are there to be proven right or wrong. Yet you have not offered either.

Same thing here in the UK 🇬🇧

Don't worry - it'll be here for decades.

Agree , EV s should be a choice and they wont suit everyone.

Such a sexist term... Like 'manhole'. Mankind. Manmade. Manned space flight.

@@AutoExpertJC Don't forget WoMan. Even their gender cannot escape the sexism.

@@AutoExpertJC Mannequin, but in all fairness, most of them are gender neutral.

@@AutoExpertJC Owner's manual.

Yeahh I saw an article that quoted ICE cars ans having about 1350 fires /100,000 vs only 24 /100,000 for EVs. Trying to counter the EV fire issue. Smelled like EV propaganda to me. Once you've had a whiff, you can smell it coming like burning brakes on a truck.

Well then they must be awesome in all situations! Come on. His point was that you have to understand the limitations of EV's and have to think about them differently. They are NOT ready to replace ICE cars.

That is brilliant!👍 You know several people how does that relate to the facts here??

@@0Aus sometimes I think he's over the top in his ev bashing. The infrastructure is catching up and EV's definitely have their place

@@joecoolioness6399 Never said they are great in all situations. I just think the alarmist attitude to EV'S is over the top amd as I said I know a few people who love their EV'S that do a fair bit of travelling and have never had an issue

@@kieranworland8662 reporting facts with a smile on his face is far from bashing battery cars. Yep no doubt they have a place? Did he say they don't? As for infrastructure catching up as you put it. If you actually opened you eyes in rural Australia you would understand that isn't happening. The power network barely does the little needed. Then there is the areas with out any at all. Might I suggest instead of having a go at work people do you could brush up on the reality of it all before talking nonsense. Have a great day.

That wouldn't fit with the "I'm not anti-ev" anti-ev narrative though.

It's not for the working class here either. Simply can't afford it

Any increases in electricity prices due to increased demand from EVs should be placed on EV owners. In the US these heavy EVs are tearing up the roads yet don't pay the fuel tax used to fix the roads.

Plus I also factored into that video that there is the cost of food and drink whilst Lee was waiting for his EV to charge, as most chargers tend to have a Starbucks or other ridiculous price coffee outlet next to them.

Also the generation will have to be between the cities.

And a baseball and glove!

There's about 20 knives in my ute of varying lengths and sharpness. Also a tomahawk, axe, and battery powered chainsaw. I keep it outfitted for bush camping. Sometimes the tomahawk is tucked into my belt. The nanny state can go and get.....

It's badly implemented in the regions, certainly.