exactly what I was thinking. 11th Gen lost to 10th gen in some applications. Doubt that will be the case for 14th gen since it's mostly up clocked 13th gen. That doesn't make the 14th gen CPUs an attractive buy however. Just not the worst thing intel has ever done.
Another AMD booster channel. If your games already don't push the potential of a CPU because it is so powerful, or the game is not well optimized then you will never see the new power of a new chip on the single game benchmark specially what is CLEARLY labeled as a refresh. What I know is that Windows 11 likes to schedule my eCores first. I have 4 of them so 8 or 12 eCores may not Make Witcher run faster but the bottleneck I see during machine start up would be reduced. But keep selling single game bench marks in a multitasking world.
AMD might just be one of the greatest companies in these current times. Nvidia is out here sabotaging themselves while AMD is helping any older GPUs no matter the brand.
Funny thing is, AMD is making Intel actually pull of a struggle and compete for double digit money. Still, not enough, we need then fighting to those last five bucks.
I have a workstation that is a i3-6320. I plan to upgrade the motherboard and CPU to a i5-14400 because it will be the LAST platform that will support DDR4. So the 14th gen is well suited to that use case
I just did a 14900k build and its working just fine and the cpu stays cooler than the 13900k. I would not recommend a 13900k unless you are trying to save some money. To say "Do Not Buy" a 14900k is a bit misleading. The 14900k is an excellent choice if you are building a new system coming from 12th gen and below. I would say to not upgrade from a 13900k though, its not worth it.
My 13900kf will do 6.2 on one core and 6.1 on 2 cores and 6.0 on 3 cores 5.9 5.8 on 2. Until it dries out the thermal paste and starts getting warm and then I'll turn off the overclocking and then it'll get worse and then I'll repaste it and the cycle repeats.
That honestly sucks for anyone getting banned for using anti-lag plus. It's odd a new technology like this could get people banned, I mean whatever reason the anti-cheat software gives. that reason it says that is related to anti-lag plus anyone banned for using such should unbanned. Other than that sucks that the I5 rumors were false.
Calling 14th Gen Intel's worst CPU release, ever is just flat out wrong. How in the hell you can claim that it's worse than 11th Gen is blowing my mind. Or some of the early Pentium series back in the late 90's/early 2000's for that matter.
What the AntiLag+ issue does show is the shortcomings in the game engines to begin with. It looks to work on a similar principle to Reshade, I'm sure a workaround could be implemented quite quickly. As for AFMF, it's a work in progress, so deficiencies are expected. I'm not sure to what level the next frame is rendered to get the motion detail. It only really needs partial rendering, so a fluid frame could be inserted as the next frame is finalised, possibly? In any case, it's only a preview at the moment. I'm sure they're checking out the feedback of reviewers for any issues they may not be aware of.
No issues currently with Antilag+ with the new AFMF beta driver not even any crashing, Valve needs to realize that it's this and make their VAC software let it through, VAC sucks anyway it doesn't ban actual cheaters, but valve blaming AMD for it, I think the way AMD is implementing it is the only way to get it to work, so it's gonna be a problem.
bro u cant blame vac for this. anti lag literally detours dlls. if amd gave a heads up to valve and told them about anti lag im sure this wouldnt have happened
The job of an Anti-Cheat is to detect if a player is cheating. The player should be free to do whatever he wants and run whatever software or hardware he likes as long as he doesn't cheat. If the Anti-Cheat claims something that isn't a cheat to be a cheat, then your Anti-Cheat is shit. Why do we pretend that Valve's VAC is some godlike AC when in fact its been riddled with massive failures for years now? I don't blame AMD at all for this, VAC is just shit and so are most ACs.
I think 14th Gen was what Raptor Lake was supposed to be all along. Intel just rushed it out early as a response to the 5800X3D because therr was only ten months between it and Alder Lake. They were then counting on Meteor Lake for a huge uplift on a new socket but it wasn't working out, so they tidied up Raptor Lake to stall for time until Arrow Lake is ready. If you hadn't moved onto that socket with 12th Gen, then 14th gen is a pretty good straight upgrade, but it'll be an EoL just like the 5800X3D and AM4. The smarter move would be to pick up a decent mid range AM5 board this Black Friday, pair it with something like a 7700(X), and then hope that Zen 6 gives a really good uplift over Zen 4/5 for a really meaningful EoL update for only the cost of a new CPU.
Not to happy with AMD; I got a RX 6700 non XT and im right now RMA it since I barely got 13 months casually playing Warzone and SMITE and netflix, the GPU is Dying!. I get Green squared and lines on my youtube videos, my PC Freezes now and then, and when playing warzone I can't have anything else open or I get Screen Flickering in Green/gray-ish color. and its not my 750w PSU , my RAM, or my new Gen 4 NVME, neighter my CPU, I had a professional test my Gear and it was all down to the GPU. Mmmm, 1 year AMD, really?. Im giving AMD 1 more chance with this 7800XT card. I never had Issues with Nvidia before. lets see what's up.
You just sounded like Nvidia marketing. Except in regard to AMD. We just got huge performance boost... with DLSS3... sorry AFMF... except they suck your precious things badly. Go watch Hardware Unboxed or something if you can't be bothered doing tests yourself?
it doesn't work All the games I tested in every configuration had on average of 10-20FPS less than when I had it completely off, with noticeably high latency and yes, everything updated
See saying don't buy, is just gay, there's a scenario under which it makes sense to buy, like if you have 9th or 10th gen and you want to upgrade it makes sense as the 14900k is the 13900ks for $200 - $300 cheaper, so it makes sense from that point of view. Yes it's a lack lustre release, makes you think of 11th gen, like Intel are just releasing something to release something.
I wonder when dlss 3.5 is gonna be added to games? Currently it's only added in cyberpunk 2077. Dlss 3.5 ray reconstruction works on all RTX gpus as nvidia said.
Dang this was disappointing I honestly thought the rumors that the i5 would get a core count increase was at least true but darn this is really just 13th gen all over again with a slight OC.
Who uses Intel in 2023 anyway? Ryzen are just too good, and now with the upcoming snapdragon X series, forget about it, Intel is out of the chat for at least the next two to four years.
@@dzibanart8521dude the world is not the US alone where prices are great and the PS5 is just 500$ it's different for the rest of us. Intel having DDR4 support allows us to save a lot of money here as a DDR4 MOBO is cheaper and DDR5 is still ridiculously expensive here a 32GB kit is around 200-300$ while a 32GB DDR4 is around 100-130$ and please I have seen the reviews and the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 on intel is minimal at best like 3-5% on most apps and games except the Spider-Man games which gets 5-10% or more performance the faster the DDR5 kit you have also Sony increased PS5 prices everywhere else except the US. Ryzen 7000 is just too expensive even the cheapest MOBOS is over 100$ here while a basic Intel DDR4 board is 50$ from MSI or GIGABYTE.
@@bal7ha2ar 14700k sounds more appealing since I'm gonna stick with it for the next 4-6 gens so might as well get the newest one but I'm not gonna pass on a good deal on a 13700k if I happen upon one
I saw the thumbnail and thought you received a 14th Gen series CPU for testing and it was dead on arrival. It was publicly stated by Intel that 14th Gen is a refresh and not a new architecture. Idea behind refreshes is to optimize and improve existing technology. In the very least its not 14nm++++++++++ As far as AMD is concerned. Lets say you are the average joe who does not know much about comps, but buys an AMD prebuild with this technology in order to play games.. So you start up a game and end up with a VAC Ban. That alone would have me return the whole system and ask for a refund. If I am an average joe and come across this video, the message is "If I buy and play AMD out of the box, I can get banned" Rather than learn how to disable "Anti-Lag" I will just buy Intel instead... is the mentality people are going to have. AMD really needs to stop shooting themselves in the foot.
14th gen is 13th gen 'refresh' what did you expect? A new world?!???? 🤣LOL. 😉 It is just max refined and tuned up, 12/13th gen chip= the best it can be and this is normal. So you SHOULD buy it, if you have 12th or older gen and need performance. That's why also the pricing is the same as last year, even tho world economics has changed alot! P.S. Get your cry's ready as 15th gen what will be on new platform, so new milking opportunity + with the world economics, that manufacturing and everything else just costs more, IT WILL BE priced much higher ( i expect at least +20% increase) If you can buy i7 '600k' 13 and 14th gen for ~450€ in stores now, then expect that 15th gen i7 will cost at least 550€! 😉And this will be across all the lineup.
Intel's 14th Gen is not a significant boost over 13th Gen? If we follow historical logic, Intel must be "resting on its laurels". Really, x86 has hit is limits. The 8-bit machine code needs to die. AMD's Anti-Lag? I don't use it anyway. As for AMD's driver based frame generation, I don't care for it. The only driver features that are of interest to me were AMD's Virtual Super Resolution (monitor is treated as a higher resolution than supported and downscaled to monitor's resolution) and Crossfire (driver combines 2 GPUs to treat as a single GPU to applications, providing its means of load splitting. Really, it needs a dynamic screen splitting mode).
I have a i5 12400F and was thinking 14600KF is an good upgrade if i can get it for 200€ (after i sale the current cpu) feel like a good upgrade for my current pc (6600xt with gigabyte b660 motherboard a d crossair vengeance 32000MHZ any opinions?
As i see it 14th gen is only worth the upgrade if you need the fastest ram possible when using either 2 sticks or 4 sticks for certain use cases if the use cases even exist which im not sure they do
sugi0lover just posted his results on the 14900K and the new Apex board. Basically useless, still running the same 8800 CL 36 as his 13900K and can't stabilize 9000 RAM.
honestly, probably, but like they said in the video you probably should watch a review or two first when they come out just to get a better sense of things
@@js460 Why spend an extra few hundred dollars when I can get within a couple hundred mHz of the 14th gen? Benchmarks are showing the 14900K is the same as a 13900KS with 100 mHz advantage at the same voltage and power draw. Damn, 14th gen is not at all impressive.
I’m close to getting my first pc, so bare with, but will the 14th Generation Intel Core i5 14600KF run well on a RXT 4070 Nvidia GPU? If anyone could let me know that would be great 👍
Who would be stupid enough to play with antilag on CS2😂 That game can push hundreds of fps Just cap it according to ur refresh rate it's enough Valve really shud just put in fsr2/fsr3 in-game to help older gen gpus get 144fps
I use a product / game called MSFS-2020 among other racing games.....Single core 6GHz should work good, I think I can use the Intel utility to control the cores that the game uses if memory serves me right. (can't remember the name). But my goal is to take out my 12900K from my Z690 DDR5 Mother Board (it's a ROG Strix "E") and put the 14900K into the existing mobo CPU socket and then put the Corsair closed-loop cooling back onto the new chip, taking the 12900K out and seeing about selling it (I have the original packaging) hoping to gain 1 entire Gigahertz (I'm currently sitting at 5.0 GHz on a good day-in turbo mode in the BIOS settings). I also try to use the XMP but some people tell me to turn that off. If I remember correctly, my memory is some of the early Trident Z5 DDR5 F5-6000U4040E16GX2-TZ5RS (DDR5-6000 16GBx2). CL 40-40-40-76. 1.30v Memory. So I'd like to pop in this new Intel chip (14900K) and see if that gives me more lanes on my PCI bus and faster graphics for my gaming. If I need to upgrade to 64GB RAM from 32GB RAM, let me know that as well and thanks so much for all the help !!!
The Drivers mentions about AMD. You FORGOT that the " BOT Auto Aim/Instakill " is on the same line as AMD`s Graphic updates & the Sever`s ARE Picking it up WRONG!
Actually feel sorry for Nvidia only upgrading the AI side of their GPUs. More productive to offer $100m to anyone/group who can advance graphic technology without AI.
As someone who just purchased a rx 590 to create a budget build I'll keep that in mind, either way..I done regret swinging my side because amd supports older drives still!
I'm indifferent on frame generation - currently I don't need it and my GPU/CPU combination have no troubles keeping the frame rate where I want it. Truthfully I think it's a bit sad that people these days are getting excited over it - I'd rather play the game as the dev's designed the game to be played then have my GPU manufacturer give me a facsimile of how they think the dev's intended the game to look... Though I don't object to a performance boost if it means I can stretch out the use of card a little longer (I generally upgrade every other generation - though the longest card I used would got back to the 2000's where my GeForce 6600 GT served me very well for 6 years as opposed to my more normal 4 year cycle).
this is exactly the way I feel about this frame generation bullshit and stupid upscaling algorithms, those 2 features can become very useful in a few years when our cards start to feel old, but until then fuck all that bullshit it just gives game devs one more reason to not care about optimizing their games
Does that mean that i might get banned if i use this feature on older unsupported gpu's like r9 gpu's or hd series with anti-lag feature ? Or this is issue only on the newer drivers on the newer gpu's ?
Switched from Intel to AMD 7800x3d. Best ever. The 13900k and 14900k are jokes to me. I almost went 13900k and just didn’t make sense. I also was looking at 7900x or above but those aren’t as fast as 7800x3d for gaming. You know what though? 7800x3d shreds video editing and encoding just fine and it’s fast! Win win team Amd. Intel, you messed up and now the world has called you out. Haha
For gaming AMD is nobrainer. But if you are pro with many USB devices and Thunderbolt devices, AMD is not the good path. Too many problems. Especially with TB devices for audio
@@andivax One issue I only have with amd is restart vs shutdown on windows 11. I can restart my intel 100's of times never an issue. AMD? I restart and it doesn't boot, I have to force shutdown by holding power button down. Windows update? Same. Stupid thing will update and shutdown, but it doesn't really shutdown instead it restats. Weird voodoo I tell you.
