Fixing Intel's Mistakes... 

In Derbauer's video he said the screws needed to be a certain torque. He marked the screws and used the lines on the bracket to turn each screw a half rotation if I remember correctly. Probably an important detail.

Steve and Roman both putting out videos where they explain precisely how to mount this. Jay: we yolo this over here

I had the same reaction as Phil did seeing those fans light up for the first time. I like to think of myself as more function over form but wow those look incredible and it was definitely worth the effort to switch out.

I purchased the Thermalright version of the bracket shown on Steve’s video. Worked fantastic! My temps are stable on my AIO now.

When I first saw the size of the 12900k I fully expected z690 boards to have the dual levers like the x99/x299 etc. Why on earth did Intel not catch this during QA and when approving AIB partner motherboard designs??

Every detail of the build came out perfect. It looks beautiful and the infinity mirror fans look amazing. Well worth the time and effort! I too have 40+ years experience with PC builds. From DOS days to present Win11. I'm 67 and retired now, the days of "and the customer needs it done as soon as possible" are over! lol

Hey Jay they make sheet metal rivet nuts of all different sizes, thread size and types, and material. This makes life so much easier removing the mini monitor from the top without all the dismantling and might come in handy for future case mods. Plus they 're a life savior for replacing ruined punched sheet metal thread. 👈😉👍 Got mine from online river store for my BIY mod cases.

Man, that system turned out drop-dead gorgeous. I absolutely love the look of those new fans with that colorsetup.

I'm not normally one for RGB, but the fan swap was definitely the right call, it fits the aesthetic of the rest of the build.

That glass cutter of yours could also do well with giving you some bits to replace the fan covers with. It would be a good way to use otherwise-scrap glass and also provide content on how to apply an adhesive made for prioritizing opacity well.

I absolutely love how you left the thumbnail up for a while. So you can actually read the thing. THANK YOU!!!

You should use a GN mod mat when you work Jay........ Those screws rolling around are asking for trouble 😉

That is why I respect you big time Jay, rather than redo a fully detailed video on what GN already did, you just tell us and move onto how it benefits your build, etc. Most of us tech savvy viewers follow the people you reference already. Also, this is why Ber8auer probably sent a version of this to GN early on, so he would neutrally review and prove it is good. What better promotion of your product than send it to a detail oriented Tech YTer that regularly tears crappy products apart, literally. In his review and then afterwards, literally.

There is also a bracket from Thermalright, it does the same but only cost a quarter of the Thermal Grizzly one. I have one myself on my 12700k and I'm totally happy with it, in terms of build quality and usability.

Wow! Absolutely stunning build! Glad to see it finally finished. Now for benchmarks 😁

I used the thermalright version with my 12900k as the grizly version wasn't available. I just used the tool it came with and just lightly snugged them up in an x pattern. My pc posts fine and works great. I was definitely nervous upon first boot. Thanks for sharing Jay!!

That is some show-of-in-a-booth level of detail and design in that build! Looks so good, specially the new fans :O Guess it really is time to save up for a new build

It would be cool to have a torque meter on the I-Fixit screwdriver to achieve consistent pressure when seating coolers.

Bro, this is super gorgeous!! Amazing build man! Well with the wait and thank you for taking us along.

That is an absolute gorgeous build! Love everything about it. Going to be getting one of these before I assemble my 12th gen system. Thanks for all the great videos keep them coming!

22:48 "I just go for it," not reading instructions - Jay. This is one of those times that you need to read the instructions! ... Anyone who is planning on getting this: you much torque you use is really important. Hint: how want to use the provided. Don't use your ifixit or whatever. Cheers.

that case looks sweet to build in and that edge lighting is perfect. If they put 5.25 section somewhere id be all over that

This looks so good! Making me excited for my first ever full build from scratch over the next couple of months 🔥

Jay, I've come across your channel just a few months back when I was looking to build a new PC for the first time. I came in with a ton of doubts and some fear, but your videos encouraged me to give it a shot. I'm glad to say that I got everything up and running without problems! I'm the definite function over form type of guy, so I went with a full black, no-RGB setup. But your build is just gorgeous, it's actually tempting me to try an RGB and custom water loop in the future.

DerBauer spreads his thermal paste properly as well. You are in good company. I suspect his opinion on the right way to do it carries more weight than some random RU-vid commenter.

Wowsa! The PC looks incredible. Those fans were for sure a great addition!

Love watching these video, the steps and care taken to get the product you wanted us a credit. I'm in the ICT industry nearly 25 years and I still get excited seeing what you will cover next.

That looks sooo good Jay! One of my favorite builds now for sure, and very inspiring. 😄

i would like to see some testing of this with linus' copper ihs 12th gen after it has been lapped.

I already bought this contact frame from Thermalright a while ago and it definitely improved the temps on my 12700k. Better off getting the Thermalright one if you're on a budget. It's less then half the price and actually in stock. Does the exact same thing and gives identical results.

Love your videos man. Appreciate the easy to understand tutorials.

11:20 Thank you for sharing that. It might explain some [refubrished] mobo issues I've experienced in the past, exactly with some memory slots not working.

Looking forward to the follow up video where you install it properly.

Phil - For the screws on the 3D printed holder for the monitor, make a hole in the top of the plastic that is the exact shape of the nut! This will allow you to only have to unscrew the screw, not the nut and then the screw, then you could flip the screw/nut spots so you can unscrew the mount from the top :)

Thanks Jay! I am 100% onboard with the CPU bracket. Unfortunately, they seem impossible to locate here in the USA. I have a Thermal Grizzly unit on its way to me from Germany, with the shipping cost, actually more than the cost of the frame, bringing the total coat delivered at just over $100 (ouch). I've noted numerous similar CPU frames on Amazon for under $25 that appear to be identical designs, but have no idea if they offer the same level of quality / uniformity as the Debauer frame. I imagine we'll see the Thermal Grizzly / Debauer frame available here sooner or later, but I don't want to wait for that eventuality. All the best!

I always appreciate your videos! Keep up the great work guys!

Nice Jay. It blows my mind that Intel with all of its resources can't get the stock contact pressure even on my 12900k and once again Roman saves the day! Nice vid Jay

Do we really need to get this if we are running 12th Gen? I just order a 12700k today. Was wondering if I really need to get this or not.

Looks great Jay, love the way the way the new fans look and the colors you chose.

That PC looks so damn good!!! But yeah, as stated before, there is a whole video on how to properly torque it. Buuuut you've been doing this for 30 years so I have no doubts you got the touch! Love your vids! you're my favorite person on all forms of media to watch!

Roman is good people. He does his videos twice, once in german and once in english. And he has cats, so it is tech AND CAT CONTENT AT ONCE!

Every time I watch Jay dealing with water cooling set ups just reinforces my mentality of never building one. Maintenance on a water cooled system must be such a huge pain!

Kapton tape works really well for holding wires to a hot surface. It’s use on battery packs in mobile devices and the underside of a 3D printers heated bed to secure the wires to it.

I only recently watched this video. In my experience, even if all DDR appears to be accessible, an unbalanced/incorrectly installed contact frame can result in a reduction of maximum DDR speed and reliability (i.e. random fails). This is one reason I have a hand torque driver with a range of 0.1-1.2 Nm (Amazon) that I now use for anything in that range that requires uniform torque and especially when a torque sequence is involved. Admittedly, if all threads/surfaces are clean/crisp and of the same pitch, a certain degree of rotation will correspond to a certain torque, but I like having more than one means of knowing the torque (or any measurement for that matter). Besides, having more/better tools in the shed is never disadvantageous (assuming used correctly). Kudos on the rig in the video.

This is the reason why I will never even _consider_ using a custom waterloop: There are so many things that become infinitely more laborious to do compared to a non-custom cooling setup. A custom waterloop is the perfect example of "awesome but impractical".

can one us contact Guinness? Jay is definitely going to have the award of "Longest time to build a pc"

That bendy tool for the monitor screws blew my mind! Works wonderfully

Just installed 13700k on MSI Z690 edge wifi DDR4 as an upgrade to my system. I was having large thermal variance across the cores +11 degrees from p core 5 to p core 8 with max temps under load 101. MSI Lite Load line auto to Mode 9 and Intel Extreme tune auto overclock for base. Changed Load line to mode 2 dropped CPU temp to 87 under sustained load but was still experiencing the temp variance across the core. I installed the Thermal Grizzly contact plate today and temps dropped to 84 max under load and sustained temps at 77. The most beneficial improvement for me was all of the core temps evened out across the die (5 degrees variance average). Jay, Thank you! We need a deep dive from you on Intel Extreme tuning for 12th and 13th gen.

Last time I was this early I had to sleep on the couch.

Love the videos on how you fight the good fight to get the investment you deserve. Wish Intel would stop nickle and dime and go for what actually is going to work. I would never touch or work with a warped cpu.

Der8auer kicks ass! That guy is just awesome. I used his improved x570 mount for my 3900xt and it did reduce my temps by 9 degrees celsius under load. I still use Liquidconductonaut. That is a great looking rig!

I used the M4 nylon washer (1mm thick) method instead... 4 to 5C drop so I'm happy, and takes less fiddling lol

Just built a 13th gen i9, 4080, z790 system and I'm having issues with it overheating in bios. The cpu reads 88/89c on start up and shuts down in a couple minutes. I've repasted the cpu 5 times, did the washer mod, replaced the aio and cpu and still have this issue. Is this simply a contact issue between the cpu and aio cold plate or could my mobo be bad? I'm not against using this contact frame but at this point, I feel like I'm just throwing parts at it. Beyond the new aio, cpu. and repasting, I've confirmed the aio pump is working via bios reading rpms and I can hear water in the radiator. This frame kit seems more of a performance enhancer vs a fix to an issue like mine. UPDATE: Fixed issue with installing Thermal Grizzly contact frame

Does this work, and is it worth using, with the 13th gen processors?

I think, no wait, I know that this is my favorite build out of all the custom builds you have done since the start of your channel. Definitely go glass with the side panel. Even slightly tinted Jay. 🤜💥🤛

Hey Jay, would you recommend using this on a 13th gen too?

That PC looks insane

Upgrade the gpu to a 3090ti while it's disassembled

I got a pre built a few years back that I've basically rebuilt/upgraded. But I built my little brother a pc from the ground up. First ever full build I've done and the psu was bad out of the box. That was fun trying to figure out how to fix that

This might have been commented already but the Perspex part 8:23 is a lapping aid but more importantly it’s used to lap the cpu while under mounting pressure from the contact frame. They found there can be slight benefits to lapping this way vs not under mounted pressure.

Would this still be useful for Intel 13th gen?

I'm 100% with Phil on this one, those fans look dope!

My favorite part of this whole video is seeing Jayz use a sensible thermal spreading technique that I’ve been considering using on my new build; and then having him say he always does it that way. Love it! I’m using thermal grizzly to make up for you not doing so :-)

i really love the colour scheme you picked, amazing

You should take the glass piece to someone who could do a custom etching on it. Would make for a very nice piece.

Please tell us and review how it goes. I really hope this comes out for AM5 if it's LGA based.

When working with the cpu, is it good to use a torque screwdriver or is it overkill

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the new bracket is still only applying pressure to those two small tabs on either side of the cpu...right?

tearing down an entire custom water cooled PC for one little dinky piece of metal? I'd use that thing as a paper weight and call it a day lol.

Starting to worry about your health bro, would like to see you keep making videos for years to come.

in case someone is watching this from ~ThE fUtUrE~, leave the CPU in the socket when you remove the stock ILM so if you drop something it hits the CPU instead of the motherboard. Probably best not to hit either, but the CPU can take a hit better than the socket pins

Those fans look amazing... think they'll be my next purchase for my build, did see the review. But in a full build they look beautiful.

bro by the time you get this rig running its going to be time to upgrade again. you gotta pick a stopping point and call it good enough.

This whole situation demonstrates, in my opinion, that Intel really rushed 12th Gen out the door. This is just inexcusable for an end-user product from a massive company like Intel.

I bought the thermalright bend correcting frame for my 12700k because I wasn't able to get one of the contact frames from thermal grizzly. It's helped a lot so far. I used to have a core that was always about 10c hotter than the rest, and now that core is the same temps as the second hottest core, about 4c higher than most. Also got a very slight drop in temps across the board, but the biggest thing is that it fixed a memory issue I was having. I couldn't run 64gb ram without crashing in memory intensive programs and games. I verified my ram was all good, but it just kept crashing with all 64gb in there so I had to run 32gb. After installing the new cpu frame, I don't get those crashes and was able to put the extra 32gb back in there and haven't had any issues at all, where as before I was crashing about 10 minutes into editing session or game.

i absolutely love the color scheme. it's gorgeous!

A $43,000 profit sent to my portfolio each week, Ms. Angela cole car is amazing.

Jay!!!!! What tool is the battery one your using is that a i fix it? Both small and large screwdrivers

I love the full spread thermal paste. it just makes the most sense!

Hey Jay, couldu tell me what are them electric screwdrivers that your using? i couldnt find it on iFixiT

I thought those fans looked dull and bad before being turned on. But WOW, They look beautiful on! Almost a neon effect!

13:31 seeing the bios on that tiny screen is so adorable lol

Do you recommend this for all 12 gen cpu's or just the 12900k?

The Thermalright frame simplified this it just screws to the board and the screws bottom out so you just stop tightening when the screw stops. No fiddling needed. Testing with pressure sensitive film show this simpler solution is essentially just as good as the more complex one. Slightly less pressure in the center of the chip but slightly better overall coverage, so it's a wash as far as performance. Both are vastly better than Intel stock. The Thermalright frame is much less expensive however.

Car polish/compound worked in with a microfiber towel is a great way to get the scratches off of those fans. I used it to get rid of the scratches on the face of my radio and it worked like a charm.

Love the build and think the infinity Lian Li fans look great, plus that purple teal color pattern in fire. The only question I have is, is there a way to be able to light up the distribution plate reservoir? Having it clear with no color sort of puts a gap where the black purple teal colors are working well together.

You should also add the custom copper IHS, LTT done a video in it and it reduced temps quite a lot considering.

hi Jay, question: so that all the screws on the cpu block are getting the same compression, dont you have some sort of "torque screwdriver" ? (i cant remember the exact name for it, but its a specific screwdriver used whenever hard drives are being repaired, and it "clicks" whenever a certain torque is reached so that screws arent being over-tightened) cuz how I'm thinking about it, if all the screws torque to a certain point, then all the screws are receiving the exact same compression between the board, the block, and the scerws

Have you considered putting a little plastic bag around the radiator in / out lets with an elastic band. Using kitch towel works but there is always a little risk of leaving some fibers behind in your loop.

sir i have b760m ds3h ax dddr 5 mother board with i5 13500 chip so can i go with a aftermarket bracket or stick to the stock bracket bcoz upcoming couple of days i build a new pc with these specs so should i go with stock or else should i go with tharmalright.. plz explain sir....

Is that custom CPU bracket necessary for the average user who has no interest in liquid cooling, overclocking and/or pushing temps as low as possible? I'll be getting a 12700K for my first build with an Arctic Freezer 34 Duo and a Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 (also no interest in manually OCing that) in a Phanteks Eclipse P600S.

did you use the screws that came with this kit or the ones that came with the motherboard for the contact frame

Thanks for sharing Jay. I'm running a 12th gen as well. Where can get this from? Please share. Thanks

I'm about to upgrade my system from a gen 7th processor, so yes, this is kind of need to know information for me. Thanks for the help.

19:39 That uncovered corner right there will hunt someone's dreams tonight

How are you complicating the lian li fans? i have the same problem as you and found the single cable that it needs to work with the argb

Great video, what brand screw machine with flexible part are you using? you have a brandname or a link please? thanks

JTC what tools are you using? I'm interested in geting some good electrical screwdrivers and I'm very interested in the two you have!

Wow i want your screwdriver !! Where can i buy it ? Even the little tube you used at 4:20. Thanks in advance !

Hey Jay You have a AppleWatch. What bands do you use? I got them big boy wrists and most of Apples band specs say they wont fit me.