Do NOT Buy These EUCs! 

Companion PDF Spreadsheet available here: wrongway.info/comparisons-1 EDIT: I made a very significant error in terms of Smart BMS on King-Song wheels. The only EUCs at King-Song currently which do have a smart BMS are the S16, S19 and S22 line-up. Their smaller wheels DO NOT have a Smart BMS. I apologize for my mistake and I’ll add a pinned comment to that video as well as cut out necessary parts. For some reason I mistakingly saw options of smart BMS on the 16S app and I didn’t do my research well enough. Most probably I connected to S16 while 16S was also available my KS app and it turns out it’s too easy to misclick 🙈

Not gonna lie, the way you negotiated this mine field was pretty impressive. You kept it fact based, explained your methodology, then applied it to the EUC market without fear or favour. I hope manufacturers and EUC riders apply the standards you've laid out because both would benefit, riders with better wheels and manufacturers with better sales. 👍

Wow now I can't even sell my commander because you told everyone not to buy it😢 guess I'll just ride it till it explodes😅

Nice that Adam gives attention to ease of tire change. So much EUC information in one video.

You put a lot of work into this video, thanks. The spreadsheets are very useful too! Lastly, it’s impressive that you are limiting the wheels you will review, that might cost you money but you are trying to make a meaningful change in the industry that you clearly love.

I LOVE this video BUT you forgot one thing... WHY does nobody (except inmotion maybe?) provide a way to lock the damn wheel????? Literally anybody can get on your wheel and ride off!! All high end scooters have at least a pin lock, some keys, some nfc cards SOMETHING. This is absolutely absurd to me especially on these £4000 wheels, there must be a strong focus on security/anti-theft

Inmotion v12hs is solid, blew 1st gen motherboard, got 2nd gen motherboard in warranty - works good now. Stock waterproofing is good, the wheel is dry and no dust on the inside, 6k km. Axle is fine, no issues 90kg rider

Just ordered the V14 on Friday (50S) as my first wheel, this video is a nice confirmation that I did not choose the wrong wheel :) Thanks 💚💚

Great to see someone considering sensible quality-of-life concerns rather than just singing the praises of the latest bigger, faster, more expensive wheel with no concern for what it will be like after 6 months of hard use in bad weather.

Agreed - It's good to set high standards, especially with EUCs. Like a helicopter, failure is not an option.

Thank you so much for the awesome video. I'm looking at the V14. It seems to be the best of the bunch. That has all the safety features you speak of. Thank you once again.

At the end of the day, everyone has to decide for themselves which euc they want or what is important to them. If someone is not yet so experienced in this area, this video can certainly help them. Thanks for the video, great job as always 😊

Hi Adam, great video again. I really appreciate that you are using your platform for putting the hard facts out there, tha in 2024 these EUC manufacturers absolutely should not be selling any wheels without a smart BMS from now on, & there is absolutely no excuse for it.

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge and expertise regarding all these wheels. There's no one like you and you couldn't be replaced.

Damn never knew people watched wrongway because of his fabulous hair and here I was thinking that I watched him due to his riding and reviews 😂

Old guy here (72 years old), started with a V8F in August 2021, only 2475 km since it's just a part time hobby for me. I only ride on paved bike trails or private streets near my home. I weigh about 90 kg with gear. I'm in decent shape, doing free weights and cardio. I'm considering 18XL or Molicel P42A S18. Issues, 18XL has the smaller axle. S18 - the handle is reported to be weak, an issue if lifting S18 by the handle, but I only need to lift it to put on stand or to put on passenger door seal on my car (2 seater, so I transport in passenger foot well with top resting on towel covered seat). S18 - how time consuming and what issues are there if tire change is needed on the S18? S18- constant maintenance, lubing suspension, checking bolts, ... .

I'm loving this channel. You totally inspired me to start this hobby in Germany as well one year ago! Thanks a lot!!

I like how you are able to be completely yourself including the hair great job Adam 🤙

Great content as always thanks

There is no Perfect product. Happy user of sherman s for about 2.5 years here, fool proof wheel for me. I would totaly recomend it if someone can deal with its weight. Range, speed, stability are strong aspects of sherman S. Video is more like about awarnes of problems of current euc's and things we should watch out for. Good for us someone rise our voices in order to increase safety of our beloved vehicles :) Keep screaming Adam :D

Awesome video my man super informative and detailed thanks so much for the knowledge just 🔥 😊👍

With all the disqualifications, would still love to see wheel reviews that do not meet your standard, as a heavier wheel would be great for my commute, waterproofing not mattering in dryer countries, or very light people on 'bad axles'.

I don't get all the criticism with the hair, can't he just have the hair how he likes it? Thank you for another great video!

For on field weatherproofing is great backpack cover 20L-25L size. Easy to buy in any outdoor store.

Great video Adam!

I'm still amazed by v11's water resistance, now at 8800km. It's been through two winters already, not to mention rains. At 7500 i had changing the tire process (for winter one), and it turned out that the bearing grease was still in pristine out-the-box condition. It took riding through the sudden knee-deep pool of water to spoil that grease. But i have no idea if these qualities transferred to v11y.

very informative video 👍

Hello looking to get my first euc. Was wondering what recomendation you may have for someone 6foot 2 and weighing 295lbs. Rather athletic and want to learn to do jumps and ride pretty aggressively on trails, price not being a concern whats your suggestion. And not asking for a beginner wheel suggestion want something thats going to deliver on say your level. Ill acclimate to it quickly.

GREAT video, GREAT research and presentation and even with a non riding video, NICE energy and editing. Adam, you are consistently awesome.

Great video. Is there anything in regard to the battery to be concerned with or watch out for when riding the older Inmotion V8?

I worked on the Inmotion V12 to replace the rim. You're right, it is tough to work on. Many many screws. But if you have a great management system for the screws and record the order of disassembly, it will be less painful to repair.

I was shaking my head in disappointment last night while watching a LYNX video that has the fuse mounted inline with the battery (which is good) but no xt90 connection between the fuse and the battery (which is very bad). The battery lead should have a connector BEFORE the fuse so that while working on (or replacing) the fuse, the mechanic is not vulnerable to shock because the fuse holder is at full voltage potential even though the battery is disconnected! The shielded side of the connector should be on the ‘hot’ side of the junction, then the ‘male’ side should be on the load side, then the fuse holder. Especially since the fuse holder is “designed” to open using a flathead screwdriver! If you’ve never seen a 12v car battery short its leads, go look now! Then imagine an 80volt short to ground through your body.😢 Some of the minor details in these flawed design/assembly processes can mind blowing. Also, there are “safer” protocols for handling and managing used wheels but no one gets clicks for spreading this info, which is understandable. BMS features are also very minimal. The minimum requirement I have BEFORE I will ever buy a ‘new’ wheel is that I want a programmable alarm on each cell, in each pack, that notifies my if the temperature profile of that individual cell has changed more than 2-5% over the life of the packs. This will allow me to change out the programmatic cells preemptively, which reduces harm/degradation to the entire pack. I LOVE this content! Used wheels are awesome, I’ve got 6! But I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone unless they fully understand the preventative measures that need to be strictly adhered to. If anyone has suggestions on charging and maintaining vulnerable models, please add below. Recommendations for used wheels: 1) For older models without BMS balancing, NEVER charge to 100% SOC (state of charge). If damage has occurred, a full charge will just accelerate the cumulative damage. Just get the PIDzoom ‘Charger Enhancer’ and limit the peak voltage to the level at which the battery has no internal voltage losses over a 1-week period. {this needs more expansion but it’s just an example}. There’s dozens more ideas… anyone?

My first wheel was the KingSong s22 pro. Before ordering I didn’t know about the shrink wrap , but it had a smart bms. My next wheel was the extreme because I sat down and asked what I wanted out of a wheel long term. I think this critica for reviewing a wheel is good 👍

19:22 the V11Y is even harder to work on because the raptor controller requires you to take apart more things to be able to disconnect it and you have to cut zip ties and re-route wires just right.

The S22 is easy to waterproof in regards to the batteries. I have ridden my wheel in the rain, and power washed it many times. But yeah, you gotta be careful. (when power washing, remove the suspension through bolt at the top (one that has handles), and the top 6 bolts (IIRC) then you can pull the wheel apart. But the mobo inside a plastic bag, silicone (if you haven't already) the two holes for the light wires. Stuff a sock into each of the battery wire holes and then blast down. When replacing everything, if you do a small bead of silicone around the battery wire hole it holds really well.) It sounds like a lot, but you can dismantle the S22 to this stage and do silicon and everything and reassemble before you can get the wheel out of a Nikol+ or V12.

I live in Southern California and have a V8S. I want a Lynx but still researching if I might have problems with being street legal. So far it appears as if what I already have is pushing the legal limits.

You are right my friend. On my inmotion V8f the axle broke twice. After the first time broke I had to order the whole wheel (tyre, wheel,motor) all together set that cost me a lot of money. After ten months the new one broke again. I’m not a guy who does jumps and flashy tricks. What a bitty cause it’s a nice feeling wheel.

Thanks for the warning about the S22 waterproofing issue. Where I live we get about 40meters of rain a year. Requires further thought.

Where to buy replacement battery pack for my Nikola Plus ? Never found online store to buy battery pack.

Thank you!

Adam when you mention axle strength my first issue with my sherman og was a strange affect where there was a lot of radio waves that locked up my wheel when I was walking it that lowered my confidence in EUCs as this rare problem hit my wheel. Second issue was a bent wheel that wheel is so weak and I had to replace it after I went up a curb at 10mph in an accident avoidance move. When you say axle don’t forget the wheel Strength if you know that to include that in future spreadsheet.

Hey, what about the LG M50LT batteries? Are they the same as the LGM50T cells in your opinion or different? I see alot of the kingsong s22, inmotion v11 , v12 have these M50LT batteries.

Hey Adam. I was looking at the newest euc’s and except for the Falcon they all have smart BMS’s. I think you might be having a positive effect!! Thanks.

I broke axle on my Commander 1 generation after 5k kilometers. There is no way to fix it other that buying a new motor, what I did. Now I ride it as gentle as I can, no jumping, hard landing, etc. But Im sure it will brake again after another thousands of miles. Just a matter of time.

I find the V11 fairly easy to tinker with. So looks like I'll be good when I soon get my Lynx 🙂

I want to get the begode a2 or the falcon. The v5f was great for $450 but I'm ready for more offroad action on a smaller wheel. Need it small for space.

hi Adam, i adquired a gotway MSP (HT) a month ago because i saw and old video of your channel and got a good deal (900€), and after watching this video I instantly regret and put it for sale, what do you recommend in the mean time, should i stop using it? or ride it with caution at slower speeds? of course not in the rain. Please help i need advice. It has 1300km currently and also how could i see if the voltage is wrong?? Thanks.❤

I hope you will review the ET Max. I rode one briefly and fell in love with it instantly.

It would be super cool for you to test the EB Commander Pro 50S - checks all these boxes EXCEPT the waterproofing, and maybe maintenance. I haven't had to tear her apart yet. :) You are awesome!

This is the content I have been looking to get.

Nice content, i'm new in euc sports. Luckily my 1st wheel is lynx

Anoter great video! I'm curious tho, any idea why myewheel is not selling the begode ex30? would u not recommend that wheel too? Keep it up!

Thanks for this - I think it's an important video and really clear. I can definitely see myself sending jt to someone asking for wheel recommendations. I want to see manufacturers and riders focusing more on longevity and sustainability. I still love my secondhand 16X but I wouldn't recommend anyone buy one new tbh. I want to upgrade to something with smart BMS, and then what the heck do we do with all these old wheels 🗑️🔋😔

Very useful content, thank you! (Inmotion V11 user)

As a first time rider I just bought a V10F, which looks pretty bad based on your criteria, but most of the wheels that fit are much more expensive. I don't have a problem spending a good bit on something to get quality, but at the same time I'd like to know how I enjoy riding it first before I decide which bigger wheel to invest in. I could have gone for an even cheaper wheel like a V5 or V8, but I wanted one that would have a bit more power and be a little bit more capable since I'm a heavier rider at nearly 100kg. This video will be on my mind when/if I decide to upgrade to a bigger and better wheel once I've gotten experience under my belt.

I was wonderong what the typical milage you can get out of the lifetime of a EUC? Im looking to buy one but it has to be super water resistant and very reliable as it will be my main commuter. Any recommendations?

Given the hair. I just realized why the channel is called wrong way :D I have an inmotion v8, no cell balancing. After 7k+ km, two pairs of cells were out of balance, reducing range a lot. After manually balancing them several times, I changed them, using a cheap spot welder, using salvaged cells from scooters I found online that I capacity tested with a lithium charger. That was a few weeks ago and so far it's holding up. That wheel would be truly amazing if it had a smart BMS. I've learnt a lot along the way. I'm also on my second charger, the first one eventually just died. Also on my second tube. First tyre. Probably c.10k km now?

Thank you for your video, you are the one that I trust, because you already test a lots of brands. I honestly think that Inmotion V14 is a great option, because is cheaper than other models, is easy to disassembly, have a great waterproof IP. Thanks a lot for your effort!!!!!

Even though I don't have a smart BMS, I think this video has reaffirmed my decision to get a begode T4. I have 2000mi on it, and don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon. When I finally have a major issue, like needing new suspension rods I'll probably get a used ET Max or extreme.

My first and only EUC has been the V11 (over 8,700 miles) and the suspension drives me CRAZY. Always losing pressure on one side...I pump it up before going out, and it's almost gone by the end of my ride. Thankfully, I live near EUCO, so I hope to have that little issue fixed in the near future. Looking really hard at the V14 for my next ride. 🤞

Thanks! What would you recommend between the extreme and v14?

Hi Adam! I guess I am a little confused on what you consider hollow bore and axle motor. I have both the Patton (newest version) and the Sherman S and NEITHER have an axle, there are 4 studs on each side that hold the motor to the chassis. But you listed these are "Big Steel Axle" wheels.....?

Dang, mentioned S19 and S20 but EX30 gets no love?? 😭😂

yea nice video, by my oppinion surprisingly not too much subjective! good job! agree wit everything, but as he said it is eweryones own decidion.

I have used an cheap Airwheel EUC that I bought new in China for only 100$ 10 years ago. The 16S1P batterypack died after a few years, then I built a new batterypack with some premium Samsung cells, and it has worked fine since then. But this year I wanted to buy a more useful wheel that I can use for going around town. I found a used Gotway Tesla 1 with the 20S4P 1020Wh battery (Panasonic 18650GA cells) I got it for 400$. It works just fine. Seems to charge to full, no problem and have good range. But it does not have an SmartBMS, so I do not really know how the battery health is. If I discover problems with the battery in the future, I will probably build a new battery with Molicel P30B cells and install with an SmartBMS like the other packs I built for EVs.

I'm always scared to go out in the rain with my Sherman Max. I only go out when it's no rain (it can still be wet on the roads) or light rain. Should I stay this worried or is it fine?

Because of things mentioned by Adam (waterpfoofing especially) - no authority does take EUC's seriously, like a vehicle which should be considered among public transport. We (riders/ customers) have to demand this from manufaturers. Then we will aproach much faster the day when any country will put EUC out of the law grey zone into just common transport vehicles.

Smart BMS must be a standard for EUCs. Even for small ones (last mile EUCs).

tyvm

Thanks so much for the objective, informative content along with your great riding videos! Safety and reliability should be more emphasized in EUC designs. Cut-outs need to be engineered out and waterproofing, customization, tire changes, part swapping and recycling designed in.

Thanks! This is helpful. It looks like the V14 will be in my future. The Extreme seems good too but it doesn't have the water rating. And since this seems like it will be a long term kind of purchase, the V14 makes the most sense. Can you (or have you) make a video about lifting a 40 Kg (80 Lbs) wheel onto busses or placing in a car?

This is why the Begode T4 is the perfect wheel for me, especially concerning maintenance. Obviously I would love a smart BMS and a water resistance rating, however as a budget rider it was really the best thing I could get. I hate sacrificing safety, but it's better than not being able to ride at all :)

Adam, what is your opinion about molice batteries in EUC's. Do they solve problem with fires?

hey i,m looking for some where I could find a good used wheel as Im on a fixed income and am unable to work it really sucks being disabled but it would be awesome to have a euc to get around I know I could learn to ride one easy because I used to ride a unicycle when I was young but its not an option now as I have a bad heart but would like to regain some freedom and get mobile again lnstead of being stuck in this recliner doing nothing while life goes by even one that needs some work I would very grateful thanks

Hello Adam, after a long time now I started watching your channel again. Can I ask you about your hair style? Why? What was the motivation for this new style? Thanks.

Basicly you dont recommend any smaller light wheels?

What about my s22 pro with lg50lt? I monitor the smart bms, am not a crazey rider and usually don't fully charge

So, if you could only buy one wheel and one wheel only, that checks all the boxes, would you buy the V14?

I too forget that the commander mini exist sometimes

You should add the rear bumper protector to the v14 rear battery pack it comes in the box. Like the one on the front battery packs

By the way. Could you made a video where all the Begode Extreme app settings are explained in detail. How they affect the ride.

Well, I had my V12 catch fire 🔥. They obviously do not travel well, a lot of shaking in my work truck. I miss it, it was so fun but that event changed my mind.

Yesterday my Begode Master was power OFF at about maximum speed. Paineble, but without broken bones, safety helmets and knee pads

If i could get a dollar gofundme for everytime he handles his hair like its a new toy, i could buy me a lynx!

Salut Adam houaaa quel changement de look ça claque 😜😋😁🤞🛴🔥🇨🇵

Begode: This manufacturer used LG M50T cells in various models including the MSuper Pro (MSP), RS, and Nikola. These models have faced issues and even recalls due to safety concerns with these batteries​ (VROOOMIN)​. Extreme Bull: This brand's Commander model is equipped with a substantial 3600WH battery pack using LG M50T 21700 cells. It is known for its long range and robust performance​ (VROOOMIN)​​ (FreeMotion)​.

Would it be possible to add a smart BMS later?

So does the Begode t4 have smart BMS or not?

I have been saying this for years, that having a Smart BMS is the way to go. I have installed SmartBMS in all batteries I have built during the years. Because how can you otherwise tell that maybe something starting to go wrong? A couple of years ago Samsung had a problem with their 18650 30Q cells that was widely used for DIY batterybuilds on ebikes, electric longboards and so on. But then people started to discover that some cells just started to drain, and offcourse it drained all the cells that was connected in parallel with it... Not fun att all :( That is not the same problem that this LG M50T has, but still, a problem-battery that should be avoided.

I have the inmotion v12 and v11 and done at least four tire changes on each, replaced motors, and even tore down to test hall sensors on both! Two day prep time...4 hours wheel time. Day and half of therapy. Nothing else in life bothers me anymore! Gaza, Ukraine, Donald Trump! Great analysis Adam. Brilliant human you are. You could do a shout out to tech support. I would be stoked to get your view down that rabbit hole!

This was refreshing since I am a bit tired of youtubers saying every wheel is "the best wheel ever" these days. More youtubers need to point out weaknesses if the developers is going to improve. For me it is very important to for example knowing how easy a wheel is to take apart and work on, since im no good at that stuff.

I can’t bring myself to spend over 2000 dollars for a first wheel It’s for practice and learning and if I want to go further then I can decide to pay more and upgrade I think I’m gonna go for the InMotion V8S I know that I will probably outgrow it within a few months But it’s 800 dollars for a reasonably good wheel

It should also be mentioned that LG have been recalling there batteries in different products that are not transportation related

A unicycle with smart BMS is a smart choice.

Thx for the vid and your knowledge. I have three wheels you mentioned in your video but none of them are the Commodes. Hair, really not you...just my opinion.

FYI Leaperkim has an independent IPX6 waterproof rating on the Lynx - which is even better, credibility-wise, than IM's in-house testing 🤠

Well, I wanted to say that Gotway MSX is quite waterproof (rainproof) - no water inside, but some dust after thousands of kms. And I do love the very end of the movie :)

Man, what a fantastic idea for a "talking head" video- and great title too! I wish I had thought of it first! 🤣

BTW Inmotion is now doing a return campaign of all their v11Ys due to faulty Smart BMS, which prevented normal battery charging. Maybe they will also fix the huge holes under controller radiator too, who knows.

When it comes to water proofing, i think the biggest thing is just keep a wet wheel upright. The only water issues i heard for the v12 were people who rode through rain and than put it down on the kickstand. Once it was tipped back water managed to get somewhere bad.