Do Sandy and Sue Approve of the Kia EV9? 

The Honda Prologue is the best electric vehicle on the market it has regular door handles which air dynamics is not going to hurt the the range hardly crap so you might as well just have regular door handles which are more reliable than pop out motorized door handles more crap to break tesla's known for malfunctioning door handles. it has regular push button start on and off you have a regular gear selector you have regular turn signal your regular windshield wiper you have regular headlight buttons regular AC controls regular radio controls all this other stuff or people just doing engineering for the sake of engineering which is not good engineering just like that drink holder it's just complicated it's it's just more crap to break on this kia just like all this all these old Cadillacs back the air suspension all of them went out just more to break it's it's crap design 101 and Honda knows what they're doing most of you guys don't know what they're doing I said motorized charging port doors always malfunctional in Tesla's the hot the Honda prologues is just regular you just press it in it pops out it's not motorized it's mechanical that's not going to break like a Tesla's. also glass roofs hail stones will bust through them video on youtube of it dangerous. tesla might be good software engineers but vehicle engineers they are not.

I don't prefer buttons. It feels cluttered.

@@elainebradley8213 cluttered in a screen cluttered with a million tiny on screen buttons u can hardly push muchless with a glove on lol.

@@billybobbob3003 Based on a rather long RU-vid (like an hour) of a press day drive of a Honda Prologue, it appears there’s a lot to like. It appears Honda tuned the GM Blazer EV Ultium guts of the Prologue for a pleasant balance of driving fun with comfortable accommodations for its occupants. Honda did not try hard to disguise the Ultium derivation. Things like steering column are straight General Motors. It appears the on board software is also largely GM kit. The reviewers noticed that now and then, the stability control identifies itself as “Stabilitrack” when toggled. I believe I recognize the door handles as the same ones that are on my Chevy Bolt. I agree that the alleged aerodynamic savings aren’t going to be great by switching to motorized flush mount handles which pop out. The latter are just more mechanisms to break or jam up in the winter when humidity inevitably gets in the door. Motorizing door handles adds the weight of the mechanisms and the wiring to power them. People like to write off General Motors as backward and uncreative, but General Motors has been building electric propulsion systems of various kinds since about the 1950s and General Motors has done detailed research into battery chemistry and prolonging service life for many years. GM built deplorable cars, especially in the 1990, but GM has over a hundred years of institutional knowledge of how to build products to a price point, I’ve been impressed with what ai have read about the Silverado W/T 3. It is only available to fleets right now. There is an unusually large battery around 200 KWH, but the battery provides significant buffer to mitigate aging effects and is able to absorb a crazy 350 KW for something like 50% of its charging curve, and 200+ KW from 50% to 80%. Naysayers accuse the battery of being inelegant and old tech. I doubt fleet drivers really care as long as they charge as quickly as possible. The Silverado is one of the more sensible electric pickup trucks available. Now if GM would make enough of them…

Got it, boomer car. Guess it's great for people incapable of working a smart phone, and can barely handle an old flip phone.

@@danran4413 no - just people who like tactile readily accessible controls. Is that so unthinkable? LOL

@@danran4413I’m 34 and you act like an entitled gen Z who grew up watching tiktok instead actually touching the grass outside.

Just typical Tesla shareholders finding buttons impossible to use. I like Teslas but I’d pay a few hundred extra for a few extra physical buttons.

@@danran4413 you do know that pilots of every airplane in the sky have tactile switches and bottons...they aren't sliding their finger along a screen to lower and raise the landing gear. Now, grow a pair and grow up.

Yes it's nice to have different views

Yes, she is a warm asset.

Me too, this strikes of button FUD.

an excellent point. I can control all major functions on my Niro EV from the steering wheel without taking my hands off the wheel, or my eyes off the road. For those that perfer touch screens - most functions are there as well..

I agree. I think Sandy is bit bias about having buttons. Some people want to jump to controls than fiddling around steering wheel and controls. I do think the buttons on this model Kia are bit too messed / streamlined into the console to be easy to spot and interact with.

And its not a thousand dollar addition for buttons. These buttons are planned to be carried over across multiple models and the cost reduces to only a couple of dollars for buttons. It is a traditional design which is usually less expensive. No-button is definitely cheaper but not a dealbreaker for the price of the vehicle.

OH the good ole days, with rotary phones in every house. Tesla "too extreme" lmao, maybe for people that can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

@@danran4413 no-one said anything about extreme. Also, the KIA/Hyundais are, on the whole, remarkable technical/ engineering achievements - so no luddites here.

Super irritating.

Made the same comment. Also, you don't use it when the car is moving, as opposed to the air-conditioning controls, that are now often moved to the touchscreen, creating a significant distraction while driving

I was also surprised they made such a big deal about that.

Yeah..start button or sensors under your ass....sorry...seat..who cares how the car start.

the MODEL X is the same way , offers 5, 6 and 7 seat options.

@@markplott4820 The Model X is usless compared to this EV9, no space whatsoever. It is not a comfortable and useful 7 seater and the buld quality and interior is just cheap as f

Is that available in North America? A lot of multi row vehicles do not offer the 3 across option in North America due to certain safety requirements that are harder to meet or they get lower crash test results so they just don't offer it in some markets. Some brands DO offer it but I have noticed it missing on a number of brands in NA.

@@YKSGuy Yes, the EV9 USA site shows that the Light RWD and the Wind AWD are 7 seaters.

@@YKSGuy - TESLA model X , is a 3 row SUV that is 5 star crash rated & has Autopilot & FSD . #1 SAFEST vehicle.

I think they are well into their 70s. The curious thing is, most people in that group would be confused and aggravated by screens and soft controls, but these guys were both confused and aggravated by physical controls.

@@barry7920 Hey Ho! OP/ this writer is in 'his 70's' and your right of the assessment. In his case; I LEARNED the screen work-which I 'd wager these two did as well. At this age, too many things in the brain=mush

Agree that Tesla doesn't make something comparable. Wondering how it compares to R1S.

And the base is $50 plus

NOPE, zero buttons is BEST . lowers COST , makes MORE reliable . EVERYTHING on screen w/ WORLD CLASS software Running it. minimal controls on Streeing wheel. Excellent VIOCE command.

@@markplott4820 WORLD CLASS software... There's the problem!

Yeah, Sandy and Sue are just used to their Tesla. Thats it.

Completely agree with OT, until there is true self driving feature, driver control should be accessible. Tesla’s minimalism is good but multi level menu is not good when driving unless one drives only Teslas. Same problem Apple has with Apple UI, once you are in it, one cannot get out of Apple control.

The shift selector would be a problem the first time you drive it (or the first week). You learn it and you use it, especially given the fact that you don't need to use it when the car is moving, like all the other controls that are often moved to the touchscreen or converted to capacitive...

Thumb. 1 button "Temperature plus 5 degrees" Etc, etc, etc, It's "always there" . (Plus, your hands are on the wheel, and your eyes are on the road!) 🤷🏼‍♀️ . I could add, those systems are going to improve even more with the AI element.

​​@@rogerstarkey5390 And for deaf people? Or people with difficult accents? Or peoole who dont want to spend months programming the vehicle to understand them? Or renters? Or people burrowing a vehicle someone else has setup? Or someone with 6 kids screaming in the back? Or someone who just doesnt like talking to their car? Or what happens when you lose your voice.... do you not know how to use the vehicle if you dont have a voice? And personally... I watch my mother VERY distracted struggling to get her car or Google assistant to understand her enough to do things while shes driving and it does not at all look safer to me.

I don't need screen nor buttons. A good car doesn't need a change of settings. A lot of buttons on screen or physical is a bad design.

@@patreekotime4578 Accents are not an issue. Simply select the native language and use that. Dealing with the deaf? That would be an issue. Well, I hate buttons. I rented cars all over the world and often arrived late at night. Try and figure out where buttons are and how the manual controls work in a strange car. It sucks and can be very dangerous if you guess wrong or forgot how to do something. And no I never started to drive until I had at least a familiarization of the controls. But every car is different. I am not sure there is a solution for a deaf person using voice commands. I have watched people become very distracted using physical buttons as well so that is not unique to voice commands. I am not sure what being a renter has to do with voice commands. I am not sure what programming needs to be done to use voice commands other than select the language. If you lose your voice, go back to bed and get well. A bit of levity but I was smart enough to not have 6 kids and my kids would never be screaming in the back of the car. We would be back in the house or in a parking lot handling the situation. The screaming kids alone is distracted driving and should not be tolerated.

@@bryanwhitton1784 So it works for YOU. Just like it works for the engineers who designed it. Be greatful for your priviledge. And im not sure what kind of accent you think im talking about, but it is well established that these systems do not work well or sometimes at all for people with heavy regional accents, no matter what country they are from. My mother does not even have a strong accent, but she does have slight palsy and has a devil of a time getting these systems to understand her.

She doesn’t want her own show.

Seriously? You'd think someone would have corrected this video with this info with at least a comment from his team. The entire video feels like a talk down of the vehicle. I think they really should have double checked the accuracy on what was being said. The button though I do think should be in a different place. A little lower like Sandy said would be perfect. I get why it was placed where it currently is though: it's much easier to see.

LR model Y

@@markplott4820 the most outdated EV on the planet lol

@@Aztasu - EU , just got the BEST one. RWD LR model Y , breaking Efficiency RECORDS. still the SAFEST car you can buy. model Y w/ 4 passengers, survived fall of 250 foot cliff in model Y. Driver was Arrested.

@@markplott4820 lol go back to sleep. None of that is true

People said the same thing when iPhones eliminated the headphone jack. Eventually all automakers will do the same. That’s why many are now going with more castings. Simplicity of manufacturing as Tesla leads the way

I prefer physical buttons. I think it safer because you don’t have to take your eyes off the road. Each their own.

@@Anthony__420 absolutely no, if you don't see a difference between a phone and road vehicle there's no point in discussing it further.

he gets paid

Old tech, old RAM - 70s…

@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck lol1!!! very lame comment! i dare you to go to africa with those 30 years+ old vehicles those screens would have failed long time ago while driving on very bad roads! how can you put literaly everything on the screen!? yeah ans tesla was "good" enough to put emergency button as physical still.

As someone who does long trips and farms rural... touchscreen when broken is so many lost buttons... physical plastic buttons are printed in 3d printers now for less than the price of a bag of peanuts

@@dertythegrower you can also easily change the type of buttons or contacts for example! those cars in Africa that are soo old that they are falling apart can still be controlled by buttons or hand made switch.....

Yeah, it's easier to redesign a button or two, but fixing those Anal Orifice Dealers are a huge problem for all.

What about Xiaomi solution. They made detachable button panel under screen for those who dont want it. But yeah kinda agree with u here. Most stupid idea is to remove indicator stalks, thats huge deal breaker IMO

Buttons? ARE distracting. Anyone who says they don't subconsciously glance away to either look for the button or check the setting is mistaken, or lying. . What you want is one button, under your thumb then voice control to activate ANY control you should be using while moving. The obscure, less used controls? You shouldn't be using those anyway (but as you know(?) you can still use those via voice command..... Safely). "Low key bash"? What are you on? . More like valid suggestions for making the vehicle better, or cheaper (more profitable?) Or BOTH..... . Any design team worth their salt would be taking note and making changes for the next iteration. . You missed the parting comments? Watch again?

@@rogerstarkey5390 Sandy: "This looks like a Kia to me" Sue: "Really? [...] I was surprised [...] I like it."

you dont need to Control anything in a TESLA , its all Automatic & uses your PROFILE.

Sandy has a one track mind on buttons. When he sees a button he only sees the cost the manufacturer. Although somehow he keeps giving Mercedes and BMW glowing reviews for hideous vehicles filled with bad designs and filled with horrendously tacky (glowing fake crystal) buttons. So he definitely has some brand bias problems and blind spots. Personally, I see a handful of useful physical controls elegantly placed. 🤷‍♂️ Its quite the opposite of the buttons everwhere problem some cars have.... GM ice vehicles are ridiculous.

@@rogerstarkey5390 Speaking from experience here… Why does it bother you if the buttons are there anyway? to your point, if you don’t like them use the voice commands. It’s all about preference, doesn’t hurt to just have them there. It’s 100% more distracting having to dig through screen menus vs just pressing a single physical button. Not sure how you find that more distracting. I think you didn’t read my comment correctly either, I did say they mentioned some pretty good points. Also based on the rest of the comments here, you are in the minority my friend. Have a great day.

😂🎄

We had our model 3 delivered. We're rural, nobody to orient us. We thought it would be difficult but it was super easy. To each their own. If stuck, verbal commands.

well there is the Chrisler Pacifica Hybrid . but it still uses GAS . and its built rerally CRAPPY.

The vents are for the hvac& cooling systems evaporator/radiator. They can open while charging if it needs to heat/cool the battery. Also depending on how the hvac has been used during driving it may run fans and such for a little while to dry out condensation after you finish driving. When that happens theres a message displayed as you turn off so the owner knows what’s going on.

Sweet spot is stalk for turn signal/high beam and stalk for wipers. Then maybe 10 buttons for climate and cruise control.

One you drive a Tesla, you understand why all those meaningless cyrpic button dust collectors on other cars are not needed. Tesla does have a few buttons, but they did a great job at giving you the buttons your really need and putting the rest in the display, and often automating many buttons so you rarely need to even thing about them.

@@tesla_tap lol copium

@@catmanscarchannelagree, until there is true self driving feature, driver control should be accessible. Teslas minimalism is good but multi level menu is not good when driving unless one drives only Tesla. Same problem Apple has with Apple UI, once you are in it, one cannot get out of Apple control.

It does need to be a compromise. Most people will say have physical controls for lights/turn signals, audio and climate control, cruise control - the stuff you frequently need to adjust while driving. And all the rest can be under menus in the info screen. And I don't think most people will lose their s---- over a start button.