Do the Menendez Brothers Have a Shot at Freedom After Bombshell Letter, New Doc? 

Being sexually abused by your parents, and then being convicted for murdering the abusers?! That's sick! Those parents deserved it!! Erik and Lyle need to be let out of prison. They have suffered enough!

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The Menéndez brothers were removed from the will one year prior to the murders. The money they received was for a life insurance policy that Jose Menéndez had. Each sibling received $250k. Their aunt Marta was the one who handled their money/expenses. #setthemfree

At 18 & 21 couldn’t they have moved out together rather than kill the parents?

Sorry but I have ZERO sympathy for child rapists and or rapists otherwise, which in addition to being about power and control is a crime of violence! I have known too many children who suffered and either went on to abuse others, or their lives spiraled out of control with drugs, alcohol, crime...

The guy in the blue shirt- is he a therapist? Sometimes he seems way off base at times. Attorney represented a guilty man? I hope she dropped him poor daughters. To not to believed. Heartbreaking. Like getting shamed for being abused.

The prosecutor needs to be charged for not protecting all the children the father raped and child trafficked 😢, they failed to get a guilty verdict on the OJ case, then failed these two children at the time, sent them to prison. The world's is a better place now that they killed thier parent's, can you imagine how many children these brothers saved by shooting thier child trafficking parents?

Sadly, the mother was complicit in the sex abuse. She would bring the boys into the bed with her and perform sex acts with them as well. That's why they shot her.

Why does everyone make such a big deal about the "spending spree"? As a child of sexual and physical abuse, there must have been a flooding sense of freedom and vented anger. I can relate to their post murder behavior.

The mom, if you can call her that, was having a s a relationship with the oldest boy! Had him sleeping with her till he got to a certain age & refused!

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I can tell you that being abused as a very young child, and growing up with fear everyday, and back during the time period of the menendez brother's, people knew, but did nothing. I was fortunate to be taken out of the abusive situation much younger than the brother's, but i had a fear of my biological dad into my late 20's. I am now 52, but back then, you could be bruised up from just being beat, and no one would say anything, that's how it was for many kid's in that time period that i know, and many have committed suicide as recent as the last couple year's, because they never faced the abuse. I really don't know what i would have done, if i had been left in that situation until adulthood. I can say, if the brother's went through anything like what i went through, they probably were not mentally right, and when no one will help you, what do you do. I feel they should be evaluated, and let out. Many people who judge them, do not have any idea what growing up from diapers in an abusive home is like, when all you know is fea, and suffering, and not knowing what will set the demon off. My biological dad had many guns, and that is scary. I actually found a gun on his bookshelf, and didn't know it was loaded. I was sitting next to my sister, and i asked her if i should pull the trigger, as i had it pointed at my head, and my finger was on the trigger, so i put light pressure on the trigger, and just had a weird feeling not to do it, and pointed the gun straight and pulled the trigger. The gun was loaded, and it scared me to death, not that it went off, but that my dad was gonna kill me for even touching it. I was 11, and this happened at his parent's house thank G-d, because my grandpa went off on him for leaving a loaded gun where we slept, and could easily get it. My grandpa had guns, but they were very securely locked up. That fear about the wine on the rug, i know that fear those boy's had, and it will leave you shaking. Great show joel, karm, and guest's. Would have loved to have been on this live. G-d bless everyone.

I just can't believe that people will not believe what was going on after witnesses were heard. People should know that when a child is molested and or rape by a family member they are not gonna talk because they are afraid and most time this abuse children will end up dead or will do something harmful on other or a community. I believe the judge and jury were not good and this was wrong. Also they did had to serve sentence for the killing of their parents yes,but no parent should put their children trough this kind of horror. I blame the law and parents who are responsible for the well being of their kids.

The mother sexually abused her son

A few things that make me question the premeditation of the killings: the brothers initially wanted hand guns but were told they would have to wait a period of a couple of weeks. Instead, they bought shot guns because they were in fear of their parents and needed the firearms right away. There was a sense of urgency and danger. If they really wanted to plan this out they could have waited the two weeks to buy the hand guns. Yes, they hurriedly picked up shells, changed and dumped the guns. However, they also left evidence of the gun purchase and ammunitions in their car. Had the police done a thorough investigation/search that night including a gunshot residue test they would have been caught that night. The alibi also doesn’t seem premeditated, more like put together in a panic afterwards. They said they were at the movies but didn’t try to buy movie tickets until after the killings. That’s why they couldn’t even get a movie ticket to match their story because they had gotten there so late. They then were supposed to meet a friend at two different places but either a) showed up extremely late to the event and missed him b) never showed at the Cheesecake Factory as discussed. They never met their friend so how is that a planned alibi ? They also ran in and out of the house multiple times during the killings, anyone could have seen them doing so. Not to mention they drove away from the scene in their own car as well. This all seems like it was done in a state of panic afterwards and not put together in premeditation.

That's crazy OJ gets out and they go to jail

The real problem with the abuse defense is this: even if you choose to believe that Jose abused the boys it only explains why the boys shot Jose, but it doesn’t really explain why the boys shot their mother. At ages 21 and 18, it’s also unclear why the boys could not simply move out. Many people were disturbed by Lyle’s reckless spending following the homicides. If we are led to believe that the parents were killed for being abusive, then why is Lyle frivolously spending off their money. His spending behavior suggests an alternative motive for why he chose to murder the parents rather than simply moving out

Karm is Correct, they were basically imprisoned from Childhood, so they had mastered Severe Discipline. Perhaps Prison Is Less of a Punishment for them. Very Sad, but that has become their Reality through their Lives.

The Money Situation has Nothing to do with this, perhaps the fact that money was the only thing that held them Hostage, and knew that The Father knew how to buy everyone around him., they used it in a way of no accountability,. as if it was there to control., who's there to use any Judgement against what they really endured?!!!

Just watch Karms numbers when the topic shines on her expertise. I'm so proud of her and she's not even my own mother!

I do believe they were abused but I think they should pay for what they did.... If this was only 10 years or so into their sentence I would say " Not enough time" but being that it's been 27 years maybe they should at least have a chance at parole... Some murderers get a 25 to life or whatever sentence and do get a chance at parole at some point so maybe they should...

Not sure how I feel about this. The crimes were violent but statistically are they prone to any repeat violent behavior? They are not serial killers really. It was a special set of circumstances. I’m sure they would be willing to give up certain freedoms if they are let out, ankle monitors, probation meetings, therapy. The money could be used to facilitate therapeutic living arrangements, job training etc. Just some thoughts. Before they are let out delving into the brothers’s interest in violence/deviance in other areas or did it just focus on their parents. They had horrible role models.

Imagine how many more children Jose would have abused if he hadn’t been killed? Pragmatically, I am glad he is gone. Murder is what CAN happen when others do NOT step in. These men should have been rescued when they were children. If so, this murder would probably NOT have occurred when they were finally old enough and big enough to take matters into their own hands. People who knew or suspected abuse have blood on their hands, IMHO!

These two Were not only abused, they were mentally abused, not only by one Parent but by both Parents. They also knew that they couldn't just dissappear, as they stated;, the fathet had enough money and connections where they would have been found and killed. Also, bare in mind these young men then, were not allowed to be around anyone, and even when they visited with their parents, both the Parents were like Watch Dogs, and many times also Shamed.

JUSTICE, for Lyle and Erik right now.

The way the man in blue explained about the familial dynamics as a whole by the abusers manipulations, makes way more sense. Not that it’s easy to accept but it is true. A very bad disease cancer affecting generations. I hope we will continue to be better in supporting victims and educating ourselves.

Karm looks so young!!!

Karm is sharp and because of her age and language she should be given more time to express her views. Other guests give lengthy answers so give Karm that same time, even if she says less words in that timeframe. Her words are carefully chosen and important.

I was abused & raped by my father, but I did not kill him. I got help, THERAPY. I suffer from pts diagnosed at age 13. I was the scape goat of my family. but I did not murder my abuser. I got help.

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Carm looks fantastic today! Also, I love her input. She is very insightful. I love this show. I listen everyday while working. 1:25:41

Even “IF” they would have reported the abuse to the police I bet they would never have been believed. Even today so many people don’t want to believe survivors of Sexual abuse. I was also molested and I was threatened and too terrified to tell. Yet I also know I would not have been supported or believed. Sadly it is so common for police and people to not believe us. As an adult and speaking up as to what I endured many relatives and people choose not to believe. It is very painful. I hope they are both released.

After going through what they went through, they must have hated their parents, who wouldn’t have? Let them out and live the rest of their life!

Something doesn't sit right with me about these guys getting out. Can't explain it. Just a gut feeling something is off.

The brothers were smart enough to find another way to escape the abuse. I think they were angry at their parents, wanted out from under their thumb AND didn’t want to lose any inheritance. That said, I believe Lyle and Eric have served enough time.

Everybody deserves a second look. I would say that if the brothers can prove their allegations ,they should garner freedom but lose any monies/ assets attached to Father Menendez as it was I'll gotten.

SERIOUSLY DUDE YOU THINK PEOPLE DONT JUST SNAP???

Your mother “cuts in” to your question and you look and sound annoyed. Where is your respect for your mother as a professional? Quite a contrast from your presentation of her! Would you have treated any of your guests in the same way?

People writing, there is no excuse for killing parents who sexually abused you, are people who don't actually kniw what abuse is. It's easy to judge when you haven't experienced abuse in your life. Just imagine being in their shoes. What would you do?!!!!

I feel the brothers should get a retrial and hopefully they get the proper sentence of manslaughter and therefore time served at this point.

Their father was abused as a young child. He came to the USA with nothing and made himself a millionaire. He would rather have seen his two trophy sons dead than spoil his name and what he gained financially in marketing. The father was an abuser. The mother was scared to death of the father and did not/could not defend her children and they resented her for that. He told her he was doing this to his sons to see if he could understand why it was done to him. Had they even had a proper therapist, it would have made a difference. Of course it was their father who selected this horrible therapist. Yes, my opinion is, Jose would kill his sons rather than have them report to anyone his abuse of them, which, in turn, would destroy his finances and business. They wanted perfect children and they wanted trophy children and no love, just validation. The father was cruel and mean to his sons in addition to the sexual abuse. Many in gyms saw what he expected them to do, and if they didn't, he would punish them right there in the gym. He was a monster.

Can Karm have her own channel? I’d subscribe.

Great program and guests! Very informative! I’m in church on Sunday’s so I missed the live, but thoroughly love to wake up to the program! It’s actually my favorite way! Ms. Karm had some great points! She made me think twice about the fact that the spending spree done afterwards by the brothers could have been due to their immaturity…among other reasons, which I felt was a very good assessment. Thank you!

I've seen a couple different attorney's now suggest that the writ is pretty strong. Guess we just have to wait and see what the DA's response will be.

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FREE THE MELENDEZ BROTHERS

night after murder = first freedom they ever had

I was sexually abused for over 6 years by my step father and my mother allowed it to happen so I can relate, buying never killed anyone…..

I think it's a long shot but i think they have paid their debt and then some. If they were to get out they should have long term support services. Life on the outside will not be easy for abuse victims not taught how to be independent. The world has changed so much also.

I sympathize for the Melendez brothers.

The trial would never EVER be resolved the way it was 30 years ago.

Im beyond Grateful that SO MUCH is being expossed.... from Epstien & all before him & all after, etc etc 🎉

Free them. The parents were awful

If they get out would it be good or bad for them to stay in touch with each other.

I vote with Karms. I am 76 and lived through the trials on my tv set when I lived in L.A. Always felt the boys were disgusting and very guilty and should pay for their crimes. It wasn’t like they were children when this murder happened. They were old enough to move away from the parents. No excuses for what they did.

I hope they are freed. The pictures I finally saw with Jose's hand all over Lyle's crotch is sickening. If Jose had been caught at what he did to his children and sent to prison, he would've been labeled a Chomos, and probably wouldve been shanked, and rightfully so.

Complicity is complicity. There are nuances galore- considerations. But Children and the protection of children must come first, and accountability is the way forward.

Oh no not Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get Eric Bland instead! Has she recovered from her Murdaugh propaganda yet. UGH.

I think they should get out

I love you karm, and i love you joel, but karm gets top billing because like me, she is a survivor, and to survive with your mind intact, takes a strong person. Those who have survived thing's most people can not grasp, and are still here to speak out know.

Very interesting conversation, I'm following from Honduras. I do believe the Menéndez Brothers and Roy Roselló as well.

Six years ago I carried a sign in the Me Too March in Hollywood, that red free Eric and Lyle I, too, am a survivor from my father and my mother could have cared less I identify with their pain & family dynamics

Sorry. No excuse for murder - period. A parsimonious should be reviewed. They have been in jail for what?? Over 30 years. I do not believe they were sexually abused, l do believe they were victims of physical abuse. What has happened to them in prison the good and the bad. Who are these men now?

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The Menendez brothers have a case and should probably be released if sane enough to be out in public. The murder of the parents was self-defense. Sane people would just leave, but the damage was already done, and they decided to kill the parents instead of leaving.

I remember the younger brother being the least composed of the two. He looked to me rather immature and unstable. Of course this was a long time ago. I agree the mom must have been an enabler and a weak person. I do think the abuse they suffered should be reason enough for a retrial or to appeal. But we need to be careful they don't show any of their dad's traits.

Haha Karm.... love it!

No, unfortunately they will not be released from prison.

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What was the legal reason as to why the witnesses from the original trial were not able to testify in the second trial?

Did the mother engage in any of the sexual abuse?

Is she crazy? Not any reason to have another trial?! Yeah ok sure…..

I pray they let them out

Awwwwww.... Lovely words to your Lovely Mom❤

If I had them as my parents, I would have been constantly peeing my pants, vomiting, trying to commit suicide, running away from home, and I would have probably gotten killed hitchhiking to get away from them.

Why do you call your mother "Carmen"?

These guys shouldn't be free

Love Sara! ❤ so glad to see Karm as always

Why kill their mother though?

Let Karm be her own host for an episode please.

I definitely think this case should be retried or have their sentences commuted. However, there is an element of the case that has been overlooked, namely, the relationship between the brothers. Lyle was the driving force behind the murders and he pushed Erik to participate. Although, on the surface, his motivation was to protect his little brother I think his anger was also ignited in part by a perverse jealousy that he would never admit that arose when he found out the level of attention Jose was secretly giving Erik. Lyle thought he was the heir apparent in Jose’s kingdom and he suddenly learns how close Jose and Erik really were. Remember, currency in their twisted world was very different than it was outside their family.

So glad you were doing this old case. There was a documentary on this about five years ago what a fascinating case. This happened when I was younger. Thank you so much.

I can't even imagine these two brothers are being considered to go free, they killed their parents because they didn't want them around anymore, and they get to have their freedom, they were grown men they could have moved

Your mothers, precious I love her so much! Have a Jewish mother to she’s passed away, but I love her the same as your mother.❤

Had to watch replay but great job as always STS Nation! Love Sundays with Joel & Karm and excellent panel tonight!

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This Dr! Can he just answer for himself instead of saying that's a hard question! But here's 3 or 4 answers!😮

Let them both out!!

Just because others have come forward about alleged abuse by Jose does NOT equate to a new trial for Eric & Lyle, nor does it excuse murdering their parents. HOWEVER, they've served 25+ years so they could possibly be paroled, but personally I doubt it will happen. This is just one true-crime-trial watcher's personal opinion.

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Crazy enough to double murder....keep locked up and protect society

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You couldn't gett the money if the mother was left alive

Their *recorded confessions which the convicting jury heard* and threats to Dr Oziel’s life were enough. The brothers confessed their mom didn’t deserve to die but she’d be an issue as a witness. These people who once sought fame in the entertainment industry are only just now coming forth?

It seems like a money grab by the Menudo kid.... why 30 years later, why come out with it now?

I hope hope they stay in prison... How soon we forget,, many years ago they were monsters killing their parents,, life in prison is life in PRISON.. parents can't defend them self's,,, so hell no they belong in prison!!!