@@MikeWazowski-dw4ju unfortunately you also don't understand that its not always a bad thing to just simply buff or nerf something without a draw back. I just wish they have an explanation on why the prices went high on many things
i swear I don’t understand half of the complaints of the balance changes people make tower heroes players when a price is slightly increased (it obviously means the tower is horrible and bad now) however they did kill byte and I don’t understand what he did
bud, its not them ruining the towers at all, its them making the game feel more like you aint got mana for ANYTHING all the sudden. It isnt flat out horrific, but still, you kinda wanna ask ehy they wanted to make everything a tad bit more expensive
I was kinda concerned seeing all the nerfs and felt like I might have to change some trio setups but so far I haven’t had to change any trio setups and the strategies work basically the same still
@@dominiquecooper8787Its js that most of those towers have limited skins (like stella having a spider skin during halloween which is no longer available rn)
See, heres the annoying thing: Most of these aren't buffs, they're reworks. Out of the 9 "buffs", only 4 of them came without another change (specifically Beetrice, Hayes, Soda Pop, and Sparks). The other 5 "buffs" came with a nerf, meaning that they're not a buff but a rework. The one that annoys me most is Fracture. I did the math: Fracture got hit with a 1500 extra cost to go from placement to max, and the DPS at level 5 went from 78.26 to 75 (and the DPS of a group of 7 went from 547.82 to 525) in exchange for a slightly smaller footprint
that sucks tbh bc his whole gimmick is being both :\ I wish the devs took that into realization and tried to make him much more viable on maps where he can use melee much more
I was kinda concerned seeing all the nerfs and felt like I might have to change some trio setups but so far I haven’t had to change any trio setups and the strategies work basically the same still. That aside Quinn deserved a level 1 nerf
That's why I prefer that they not make balance changes and rather put new Towers, there are so many things wrong with balance changes - Keith bunny fracture and wafer according to them are "Buffs" but in reality they are nerfs keith instead of changing their mechanics which is honestly garbage and instead of btd base of ninja monkey they prefer to "improve" I say that because their DPS is much worse - bunny the only thing I can say is that you look at the scale of his damage and dps skill so you can get the idea of why it is now twice as bad - wafer I think we all know what his main problem is but the only thing I have to say is I hate luck - fracture instead of making a scientific variant he prefers to make a damn and useless joke. The only real buffs are beebo, beetrice hayes, soda and Sparks, those are buffs mainly for soda because of its stupid cost (and I also think they increased its level 4 range) now with the nerfs or better to say make the maps even more difficult. more stupid and unnecessary ways - scientific branch dog specter and literal ballon pal is only unnecessary because it practically doesn't change anything (and there is no volt nerf when it came out it didn't have that mini ability ok) - lure that tower is between Scientific and Branch but for mainly for both because Scientific is good for bosses but a problem for enemies and branch is good for many enemies but a problem for bosses and lure were both was good for bosses and for his skill was good for enemies (I know this because I have played a lot with lure and honestly it is almost at the same level of usefulness as scientific and branch) but instead of improving its ability because it is honestly useless after the Waves are over they decide to give it such an unnecessary nerf that now it's bad even though almost no one plays with lure and with that nerf now much less anyone will want to play it and those who rarely played it now no longer play it including me :( - frank and quinn many think that their nerfs were justified but what they don't realize is that now quinn is trash and frank now you have to worry about damage mainly when the game starts - byte I honestly don't know why they nerf byte if this is practically mandatory because if you don't have it it is a guaranteed defeat -Stella. If the nerfs were unnecessary and it makes no sense, Stella is practically the best example that they do not know how to make balance changes, now it is literally useless or better to say you are no longer going to complete any map in solo and hard (obviously some exceptions) and also destiny dawm and black barrels are now almost impossible to complete because she took an important role Just imagine you have 20 drawings and to repaint all of them you need 2,000 mana 100 to repaint now with the nerf it will most likely be half or a little double because the drawings use up mana quickly and the most logical thing is that it should not be a strong nerf because it's going to make it useless, well THEY INCREASED IT BY THREE THAT MEANS THAT NOW TO REPAINT FOR 20 DRAWINGS YOU NEED 6,000 MANA AND THOSE SPEND QUICKLY THAT MEANS THAT NOW YOU MUST SPEND TRIPLE WHICH IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY BECAUSE OF HOW LIMITED IT IS MANNA. The collaboration is fine but what happened to the BWS classic event update on the balance trucks was that it totally ruined the update and this is exactly what is happening. A great collaboration but everything is ruined because the changes are so bad that it only causes that people don't want to play until the changes break (that's what happened with TDS and the engineers, just look to see what I mean and the reason why that period drastically reduced the players) I honestly hope that hiioh realizes the tremendous stupidity that you did and know how to solve it because these changes are so bad that it will affect soon (if there is some text error it is because I am using a translator because I am Spanish :p)
Some of these nerfs were kinda unnecessary. Because the heroes like sci and branch, despite being nerfed. Still remain as some of the best towers out there. Now I'm glad my boy soda pop got a pretty good buff. (Yes I use him as you can tell.) But the balances this update genuinely doesn't make any sense to me
This idea of nerfing supports is horrible, discounting Dog's case of not being able to increase the summoner limit is understandable, after all it left Hayes and Beetrice broken, but it doesn't make sense for them to nerf other supports without a necessary reason
They should nerf jester slot when discount ability is been activated, i managed to get 3 jesters on make a cake on hard mode. Only with me & 2 other people.
I honestly find myself to not like the game even close to how much I used to because of these nerfs. Also the stella nerf is terrible I tried to solo oddport academy hard mode with stella lemonade bp spec and hotdog and i literally couldn't get above 20 drawings bc i kept losing mana and couldn't redraw all of them.
To be honest, the best era to play Tower Heroes was when the Spectre gave all the statistics, the chef used knives and etc... when Balloon Pal and Discount Dog launched the game it was never the same...
1 It's no wonder scientist remains great 2 Stella lives on 3 OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED BYTE! 4 Keith has always been the main antagonist of tower heroes in my opinion so maybe instead of nerfing him, he becomes a boss(but you don't unlock him as the tower) 5 I got nothing to say about the other towers.
Man they sent fracture to the useless realm because he used to be my early game dude but now the cost just killed him Keith I never really used because there’s better group options Scientist is kinda rough but discount exists I don’t even have branch but dang Quinn I rarely used but that sucks Frank another dude used less Byte is now almost useless but can still help CAN THEY LEAVE MAH BOI KART ALONE HES BEEN NERFED SO HARD like they already lowered his HP and his Invincibility already lost its infinite duration The buffers didint Get hit that bad Yasuke is still good so I don’t care Volt I don’t have either That’s it
I mean you have to have strong units and bad units its just that the devs are nerfing the strong heroes and reworking the bad units AND THE BAD HEROES ARE STILL BAD
They need to buff Keith and Nuki he’s one of the worst tower heroes and thanks to all the nerfs destinys Dawn is nearly impossible and the catacombs is now the hardest stage in the game I also think volt needs a slight buff because of how hard he is to get for something thats not even B tier
They gotta stop nerfing stuff, all its doing is making the game even more difficult. How are you even supposed to do bleak anymore when 500 mana is the difference between life and death
We all agree, Stella does need a nerf, right? Well, MAKING THE COST FOR A DRAWING 600 IS STUPID. A DRAWING OFTEN GETS 400 MANA BY THE TIME YOU NEED TO REPAINT IT. FUCK THIS UPDATE. And I can’t believe how dumb (honestly) Duck Adam was to say STELLA HAS BARELY CHANGED!!!!
@@deadgetout5477 Yeah check any drawings hp go from 20 to 3 and you’ll see what I mean. Also, this just shows how many people just don’t use Stella despite her being overpowered, or before the nerf anyway.
@@SingingInSCR i mean even if you need 400 or less it doesnt really matter, stella is solely mid-late game and you should hopefully have a good early game defender and cats up before you use her which is why she synergizes so well with frank
