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Do UV Filters ACTUALLY Ruin Your Image Quality? 

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@DelaneyMedia
@DelaneyMedia 7 месяцев назад
So… do you use UV filters?
@stretch90
@stretch90 7 месяцев назад
I used to use them but decided to take them off one day. The main difference I noticed was I started getting glassier looking eyes in my wildlife photography so I kept them off.
@kamatchinmay
@kamatchinmay 7 месяцев назад
Yup, I agree 100% with all that you said. A much more significant contributor to degradation of image quality is not using a lens hood, but I don't see too many people talking about it. Instead they'll keep repeating this piece of free internet rhetoric
@efreutel
@efreutel 7 месяцев назад
ALWAYS!
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
Not since I was 17 years old. A pro shooter I encountered in the field shooting native orchids told me to never use them. THat was 1972. The photographer was Larry West, the father of modern nature photography, whom I idolized. That was enough for me. I also ALWAYS use a lens hood. ALWAYS.
@DanielPetre
@DanielPetre 4 месяца назад
@@bgrzesiak5996 But how about Ken Rockwell !?
@eugenegirshtel
@eugenegirshtel 7 месяцев назад
The main issue with UV filters is scenarios where the lighting is from behind the subject or bright light coming in from an angle. These cause loss of contrast/flaring/ghosting. The only situation where I'll use a UV filter is if I'm shooting if very dusty/sandy/salty conditions. At that point they become sacrificial against those elements.
@toomanyhobbies400
@toomanyhobbies400 7 месяцев назад
I looked toward a ridge speckled with houses and large patches of trees ( about 3km/2 miles away), while I was wearing my glasses. Then I hand held a UV filter and positioned it so that it covered half my view. The UV side made the washed out blue/green trees more vibrantly green. The details of houses were also sharper and with more contrast. So the filter improved my image by cutting thru the haze. So for any subjects at a distance, the filter wins. Probably no effect on indoor or close subjects.
@strobaholic
@strobaholic Месяц назад
My lenses never even leave the box until I get a nice quality UV filter to put on it from day one.
@RandumbTech
@RandumbTech 7 месяцев назад
I use high quality clear filters on all my lenses for protection only. Don't listen to all these ding dongs in the comments claiming it degrades image quality. You know what does? Scratching the front element against granite rock as you scramble up the side of mountain. People that don't use filters either have loads of disposable income or don't actually use their gear.
@blanked3
@blanked3 7 месяцев назад
Same, I use high quality UV filter for my lenses too, after spending thousands on my lens I can't afford to fix em. And besides my images come out plenty sharp for my clients
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
High quality filters are another air-to-glass surface. THAT can cause refraction. That is physics. "Don't listen to all these ding dongs in the comments claiming it degrades image quality."?? Don't listen to those who want you to waste $60 on a high quality filter you don't need. Lens hoods protect lenses. In 50 years I've never never scratched a lens. Not on my Leicas, Hasselblads, 4x5 or 8x10 view cameras, or anything since 1973. Go ahead and waste your money on them though!
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 Месяц назад
I missed your "ding-dongs" hit before. Nice. People with real, professional experience have always, unanimously told me otherwise. That's 20 years as a Fuji Pro Products Technical Rep for the Midwest, 15 years running Pro Camera Stockhouses, 10 years as owner/operator of Great Lakes Photo Tours and many years as a professional photographer. Not one of my customers used UV or Skylight filters for "protection". They used LENS HOODS!
@goldenstasgs
@goldenstasgs 18 дней назад
Guys the one things you should remember about it filter. The longer focus distance you use with lens the more filter’s glass imply on sharpness. Image has drastic difference with 500 mm in terms of of sharpness. But for 35 mm it’s barely visible. Try to observe by binoculars through you window and you understand this effect.
@roc20621
@roc20621 7 месяцев назад
Issue with the UV filter is when the ring gets bent, you can really screw the threads on the front of your lens; dropping a lens is typically going to fall on its edge anyway, not smack in the middle of the glass... gamble either way, but I do like using hoods for, both, protection and its originally intended use
@bartjes2509
@bartjes2509 7 месяцев назад
I use UV filters which saved my lens from a scratch by a fall and sand in my lens cap. Remove the filter when shooting into direct light to avoid lens flare created by light bouncing between the lens front element and the filter's back side
@Manabeast-bw3ek
@Manabeast-bw3ek Месяц назад
A few months ago I had my camera on a tripod next to my auto height-adjustable desk and I forgot it was connected to my pc with a cord. I changed the height of my desk and the tripod felt forward, so that the lens crashed to the flow with full force. Thankfully I had a UV filter on it. The glass of the filter broke and the ring was totally deformed. It was almost impossible to get if of the lens, but I managed to do it in the end. The filter absorbed (filtered 😅) most of the force, so the lens wasn't damaged. The 10$ filter saved my 1600$ lens :)
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 Месяц назад
A lens HOOD would have not broken any glass and not been hard to remove nor would it mess up your front threads. MUCH BETTER protection.
@efreutel
@efreutel 7 месяцев назад
I live on a salt water environment. The last thing I need on a $3k lens is salt or quartz dust (sand). No one is gonna look at any image: “OMG! He used a UV filter”. Get real. 🤡
@Needacreate
@Needacreate 7 месяцев назад
Your A/B samples do exhibit a noticeable loss of colour vibrance/fidelity, and possibly a slight loss of contrast. This would be even more pronounced in challenging lighting situations, particularly involving backlight or stray light. Will this matter to most viewers or clients? Probably not, at least not in most cases, I should think. But when I look at my own photographs on a calibrated monitor, I do notice, and I care. Other people's mileage may vary, and that's perfectly legit too.
@DanielPetre
@DanielPetre 4 месяца назад
No, they don't.
@Needacreate
@Needacreate 4 месяца назад
@@DanielPetre Your nuance is appreciated.
@afollowerofchrist5789
@afollowerofchrist5789 4 месяца назад
@@Needacreate Ok, good. It's not just me who noticed it then. I noticed a slight loss in color fidelity, as if the color in the "B" example is slightly faded. I don't know if I would call it noticeable though because, at first, I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. In my case, it doesn't really matter, but even then, the difference is still quite mild enough to be considered an acceptable trade-off. Anyway, it's as you said, whether this is acceptable or not is purely subjective here.
@hsvision8051
@hsvision8051 10 дней назад
Any type of glass not specifically designed and formulated for your exact lens specifications will cause some loss in quality. Manufacturers design and build their lenses to meet very precise specifications to produce the desired image quality and provide the best performance. The moment you put a third party glass in front of it, you are affecting that design to some degree. The only thing a higher end filter does is minimize the amount of loss in quality, to the point that it is near impossible to notice unless you pixel peep. But yes, the quality still degrades. The only way to maintain peak 100% quality and performance from your lens is to shoot as unobtrusive as possible. Hence why the best protection for your lens is the lens hood it comes with. In my humble opinion, the only time I see a filter being beneficial is when you’re shooting in extremely harsh weather conditions where the lens hood may not be enough due to direct oncoming projectiles, like a sandstorm, or a firefight in an active combat zone. Otherwise, pop your lens hood on, shoot straight from your lens’ manufactured glass, and enjoy the high image quality you paid for. If you’re that worried about exposing your lens to the world, you should consider less expensive gear. If buying something expensive only brings anxiety and worry, it’s too expensive.
@snowhite1qazse4
@snowhite1qazse4 2 месяца назад
Well, for his type of simple photography the UV filter will not affect his images. UV filters only affect zoom lenses at long range, scenarios with lots of lights and reflections as most filters even the expensive ones doesn't have enough coatings. That is why camera lenses are expensive because of multiple coatings in it to make contrast and sharper images, then you put a UV filter with cheap coatings. I have a journalist friend which experience issues with UV filters in wildlife and flash events settings
@ElMacho0423
@ElMacho0423 7 месяцев назад
Next video idea: UV filter drop test!
@tgrunnet9050
@tgrunnet9050 3 месяца назад
No doubt that filters can protect frontelement on lenses. However an additional piece of glas will have an effect on optical and potential AF performance. Using a high resolution camera like Z8 and long lenses, the impact even using expensive highend B&W filters are very visible.
@Uisci81
@Uisci81 19 дней назад
Thank you! Just ordered a lens and now will be getting a UV filter!!!!!
@derrickm9808
@derrickm9808 Месяц назад
Using good quality and not necessarily expensive coated UV or protective filters on my lenses gives me peace of mind and my photos look sharp enough so I'm good with that, I think they make very little difference.
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 Месяц назад
Everyone had the right to value their image quality. If "sharp enough" is good for you, that's great. I want no compromises and a "portective" filter is a compromise. A lens hood is not.
@derrickm9808
@derrickm9808 Месяц назад
That's just my opinion do what you want.​@bgrzesiak5996
@derrickm9808
@derrickm9808 Месяц назад
That's just my opinion do what you want.
@Macjohn1419
@Macjohn1419 Месяц назад
There is a critical flaw in your assessment. If you do research into optics, the main problem with glass is called dispersion. There is no such thing as a zero dispersion glass. Even with lenses. Good lenses will have LD or Low Dispersion elements, but the light waves still disperse bouncing through the glass crystal structure. That affects sharpness. The more glass, the greater the dispersion and ultimately, the less sharpness in the image. That’s why prime lenses are the sharpest because they have fewer elements. Super zooms like 18-300mm or 28-300 are not very sharp. If you want a fairly sharp lens, you will choose between a 2:1 or 3:1 zoom ratio to minimize loss of sharpness from dispersion. So, yes, UV filters will degrade your image. It all depends on how much image quality are you willing to sacrifice.
@patcormick
@patcormick 7 месяцев назад
you know the "cheap glass in front of expensive glass" argument has always interested me. Like when I stand in front of a window and snap a shot -- if the window is clean, you can easily shoot thru it without a noticeable loss in quality. Plus having a cheap protection layer like you mentioned, can keep from scratching the element.. which we all appreciate lol
@DelaneyMedia
@DelaneyMedia 7 месяцев назад
Yeah exactly!
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
Lens hoods work. "Protective" filters don't. I've seen more "protectives" jam on lenses (15 years running pro stockhouses and 20 as a Fuji Pro Rep) when lenses get an impact. Also when the "protective filter breaks it usually sends glas sshards into the lens surface, scratching the multi-coatings or cutting the front lens element. Use at your own risk.
@leevihalme4615
@leevihalme4615 2 месяца назад
​@@bgrzesiak5996 It works if you need protection against elements such as splashing salt water (that is known to ruin lens coatings) and flying sand (which will scratch the glass)
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 2 месяца назад
@@leevihalme4615 If you believe what filter makers tell you. After over 50 years of shooting, including on sailboats in the Caribbean, sand dunes of Michigan's Sleeping Bear and Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore parks, I have NEVER used a UV or Skylight. NEVER had a scratch or incident (like salt spray, etc) where a UV was needed or wanted. So many people believe this BS from filter makers and folks who make a living telling people what to do (and are sponsored by folks who want to sell this stuff) that they believe it. It's simply snake oil (or Prevegen, or testosterone booster or diet pills or other "marketing"). In 20 years as a Fuji Pro Products Rep, I NEVER saw a pro using "protective" filters. I covered 5 states and symposiums all over the country. Never found a pro to use them. I never have either and continue to follow their lead.
@jackp8022
@jackp8022 7 месяцев назад
The only actual problem I've had with a UV filter was when I was shooting in like -10 C and the heat from my hands kept causing it to fog up
@DelaneyMedia
@DelaneyMedia 7 месяцев назад
Yep I’ve had that too. I’ve also had that problem without any filters too though 🤷🏻‍♂️
@OttoLP
@OttoLP 7 месяцев назад
why did you not test in direct sunlight? This test seems pretty pointless.
@tme500ify
@tme500ify Месяц назад
I have tried using cheap filters and picture quality is bad till I used Haida filters and try it to zoom 200% it looks the same without filters
@peterw903
@peterw903 5 месяцев назад
Dropped my canon lens the other day, Tiffen uv filter cracked, but the lens face was totally protected. 👍🏻
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 Месяц назад
A lens hood would have done the same and protected from lens flare. A REAL problem to address that filters can't affect.
@Axis360
@Axis360 5 месяцев назад
Interesting- I just shot a lacrosse game at sunset and noticed a drop in quality- I had a UV filter on- Now the quality was slight, but I don't have patience for loss of quality! I was shooting with UV, and I saw your shoots on an Apple monitor, a high-quality LG monitor, and an OLED TV monitor, all paired together- I see more color issues in your UV and UVless photos- But it is there. I think your point was proven above protection- UV has purpose outdoors in sunlight, but past sunlight, it is wrong- Just my POV
@zoltankaparthy9095
@zoltankaparthy9095 Месяц назад
I have tested UV filters on my cameras, too. Ask the anti-UV folks if they have tested anything. I can guess the answer.
@borisleak4890
@borisleak4890 7 месяцев назад
Just skip the filter and use your lens hood ....
@RascalKyng
@RascalKyng 7 месяцев назад
It's also the mechanics and engineering of a simple UV filter. It's a flat clear glass. Simple. The image (in order to be impacted by an added lens element) would have to add a bevel, magnification, and or coating etc... ... It is just a clear piece of glass. Simple optical mechanics. No impact.
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
Study the physics. Refraction is real and the other surface does NOT have to be bevel. Also, all decent filters ARE coated, so it' undercuts your first argument.
@garnerboyd4206
@garnerboyd4206 Месяц назад
Poor subject, no detail, for such test. In your case, you will never probably see a difference. So your good wit that.
@jeremiblurton_yt
@jeremiblurton_yt 7 месяцев назад
Yes they do. In general they are useless on modern cameras anyway. Filters for protection are also more of a risk to your lens than anything and generally just result in scratched up filters when the front lens elements would have not been prone to the same damage.
@efreutel
@efreutel 7 месяцев назад
Huh?
@80-80.
@80-80. 7 месяцев назад
Test starts at 3:12
@omegavladosovich6757
@omegavladosovich6757 Месяц назад
I definitely see a difference in contrast and colours.
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
Waste the money if you want. Refraction is physics. Extra layers of glass can cause refraction. Your opinions are just that. I have NEVER used UV filters (but ALWAYS a lens hood) and have never had a lens damaged or scratched. Why believe that trope that just gets you to spend money on a useless filter? UV/Skylights are a SCAM. I stopped selling them in the early 1980's in the camera store chains I ran. People often then put the polarizer ON TOP of the UV and NEVER use lens hoods. No large format shooter I EVER met or saw used "protective" filters.
@toomanyhobbies400
@toomanyhobbies400 7 месяцев назад
I looked toward a ridge speckled with houses and large patches of trees ( about 3km/2 miles away), while I was wearing my glasses. Then I hand held a UV filter and positioned it so that it covered half my view. The UV side made the washed out blue/green trees more vibrantly green. The details of houses were also sharper and with more contrast. So the filter improved my image by cutting thru the haze. So for any subjects at a distance, the filter wins. Probably no effect on indoor or close subjects.
@thiagodonascimento7926
@thiagodonascimento7926 7 месяцев назад
Why are you writing about opinions? He liter showed test results in this video, and not just an opinion
@janinmarquez-medina6265
@janinmarquez-medina6265 7 месяцев назад
*Can cause refraction.. keyword >> "can".. doesnt mean it always will. UV filter can indeed cause a lost of quality in the right lighting conditions but even if it were the case you can take it off. It doesnt glue to the camera and no one is being hurt by putting it on. Lol Not sure why you sound put off by someone sharing their opinion on UV filters if this is more of assurance to those who put uv filters on to protect their lens. Some people took photography or videography as hobby and are paranoid about their lens getting scratched or damage. Same concept of people who put glass on their phones to prevent scratching their phones or the main glass from taking the impact of a potential drop. Not sure if you understand the point of it but its simple. 10-50$ glass can protect a 100-4k$ glass that most people cant comfortably buy again if damaged. meanwhile 10-30$ you can comfortably buy again. Same reason people put cases on their phones that ruin at times the look and even features of their phones just for the assurance that the phone might survived a drop and only having to spend 5-10$ on a replacement for the screen protector.
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 7 месяцев назад
@@thiagodonascimento7926 In all my years running Pro Stockhouses (15) and as a Fuji Professional Products Rep (20 years)I never saw any real pro shooter (including those from National Geo, Sports Illustrated, AFP, UPI or others use a UV filter. It's because he doesn't show the original images SOOC. That would be proof. His showing images is not. Photography is still science and a true test uses scientific theory, not two images. If you want to buy UV filters go ahead.
@kristianvrum8979
@kristianvrum8979 2 месяца назад
You've never used an UV-filter, but you still know everything about their negative effects? Ok....
@eddyhate88
@eddyhate88 7 месяцев назад
Yes it does and it's been proven by science. it always make a change in the color the digital sensor because it doesn't need uv protection because they already have is. this kind of videos is overdone you should try and be original
@goldenstasgs
@goldenstasgs 18 дней назад
Guys the one things you should remember about it filter. The longer focus distance you use with lens the more filter’s glass imply on sharpness. Image has drastic difference with 500 mm in terms of of sharpness. But for 35 mm it’s barely visible. Try to observe by binoculars through you window and you understand this effect.
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