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@ColtCapperrune
@ColtCapperrune Год назад
Reading these comments is amazing. Some can’t hear the difference, some claimed the difference is worth the $20K! That’s my main goal with these kind of videos is to expose people to things they likely wouldn’t have the opportunity to be exposed to. Hope you all enjoyed it regardless of your opinion!
@drampadreg1386
@drampadreg1386 Год назад
The only reason to buy the original, if you have a studio worth several million that is would be to get customers to think your studio is worth a lot of money by the hour. Some just want to try one, but I think buying 10 of the Warm versions, Barefoot mini stack and some nice Mogami cables is a much better deal! I hear subtle differences in the details at certian frequencies, but nothing that you can get with a tweak with one of the many fine plugin's they have available now. Those are getting so good analog gear manufacturers are probably going to have to lower their cost in the not so distant future. Like the Neve OPX preamps, great deal for the money if you want 8 good preamps and are on a tight budget. Those would make this Warm Audio mic sound fantastic! I hate using Canadian money though, got to add 25% or so to everything then 13% tax...makes me want to grow my income again. Thanks for the review, found you through Present Day Production and they say very nice things about your channel. But for now, I have 2 Antelope Solo mics, and there is the U47 model which suits my rather low voice, clears that boomy mud out of it.
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 Год назад
Could easily spot the difference between the Warm and the vintage. In general the C12 has a thicker creamier midrange, particularly lower mids, the Warm isn’t as creamy but has a more pronounced top end and transient detail. I preferred the Warm on some sources FWIW. Warm sounds more modern to me, the C12 has a *really* “vintage” tone which I could see getting swallowed or murky in modern mixes.
@WarmAudioOfficial
@WarmAudioOfficial Год назад
Love to see the WA-CX12 get put to the ultimate test! Thanks for the no BS review!
@aethro
@aethro Год назад
You're a good sport, also I've got a WA 251 in the mail that I'm beyond hyped for!
@nyaanekonya
@nyaanekonya Год назад
and i would definitely love if you didn't ship dented mics
@lmeifrmthcld797
@lmeifrmthcld797 Год назад
I'm here because I really want to buy a WA microphone I'm listening to all the tests and I think they sound incredible. But I'm from Uruguay so I'm not sure how I'm going to bring the thing yet
@Luke-ot6mk
@Luke-ot6mk 9 месяцев назад
Warm has a ofícios dealer in Brazil?
@DeRaNgEdOfficial
@DeRaNgEdOfficial 5 дней назад
​@aethro 251, my go-to vocal beast. That running through a cl1b gorgeous.
@TheAmericanWoodcock
@TheAmericanWoodcock Год назад
NO, their is not a 24k difference in sound. Enough said. The Warm sounded great and so close to the vintage C12. I personally wouldn't spend that type of money on the original even if I could. Great video Colt.
@PapawCulberson
@PapawCulberson Год назад
there
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 Год назад
For an establishment artist, it’s worth it if the person likes that vintage vibe. Perhaps if Bob Dylan or jazz artist Diana Krall wanted an authentic one to be used on a future album, it’s probably fine. For a non famous musician, I would say no.
@who_is_dis
@who_is_dis Год назад
The modern C12's sound better imo. A pretty big issue with these clone mics is that the noise floor is very high in comparison.
@BeauStephenson
@BeauStephenson 8 месяцев назад
I totally agree. I'd say there's more like a $30k difference.
@kylecoffey6010
@kylecoffey6010 Год назад
We're reaching a new era where the music is again key. The mystic of the recording art is lifting & production is becoming more about getting "the take" vs this mic, with this pre, with this comp, etc. In the past I've seen some big projects recorded with mostly SM57's on just about everything... vocals, drums (every close mic), guitars, bass & once mixed you'd never listen back & think if only we had used that super rare vintage expensive mic on the vocals it would sound any better. We gear junkies buy into that way too much & lean on that theory to rationalize why our music isn't up to the "standard". I'm just as guilty as anyone for sure. Another excellent video Colt! Do more warm shootouts... those Tone Beast pres & neve clones are BadAss! Would love to see your comparisons!
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Год назад
Would be cool to do a test where a complete performance was recorded w 57s next to high end mics, then mixed / processed how one would normally do per set of mics. Only difference I can imagine there’d be is ability to capture room ambience w large condenser / fig8 / Omni type options. So maybe if room sound isn’t important (dreadful pop music) then cheap dynamic mics are probably sufficient.
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair Год назад
I think after developing your ear, and creating your workflow. There are definitely a few pieces of gear that would get you closer to a professional sound, but the G.A.S is for people who don't make shit worth listening to.
@TonyThomas10000
@TonyThomas10000 Год назад
The biggest difference was on acoustic guitar. The C12 sounded more open and the Warm Audio sounded more compressed. The C12 also has better transient response. The Warm sounded excellent on vocals!
@EricSauerets
@EricSauerets Год назад
Agree with you on the Acoustic. I heard a bit of an air and a sparkle in the top end in the vintage C12, where the warm sounded just slightly more upper mid forward.
@briankruesi6484
@briankruesi6484 10 месяцев назад
Good ears that was my exact same feeling.
@tombuck
@tombuck Год назад
This is one of the best made microphone videos I’ve ever seen.
@ColtCapperrune
@ColtCapperrune Год назад
Really appreciate that!
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 Год назад
I should also mention I use the WA273 on almost all my projects so I do appreciate Warm Audio’s approach to affordable gear. 👍
@dandelay8377
@dandelay8377 Год назад
Listened to this in my car pretty loud. Couldn’t really hear a difference. I know we all wanna believe that a mic is somehow magic- it’s just circuits and parts, and capsules. For $1K, I’m going with Warm every time. I own a bunch of their mics, and I dig them all.
@georgemickel6608
@georgemickel6608 Год назад
Thanks Cole for the video and the Dropbox files.. can't wait to check them out. Kind regards, George
@davidspingler6337
@davidspingler6337 Год назад
Truly, this was indeed a surprisingly close series of examples… Good job, Warm Audio 👍
@rocnroll1715
@rocnroll1715 Год назад
Very compelling conclusion to welcome a 1,000.00 Warm Audio WA-CX12 vs the 20,000.00 vintage C12. Well done Warm Audio!!!!!!!
@guidopellegrino6029
@guidopellegrino6029 Год назад
Love to see you do the rest of the line up !!!!
@RicardoTolbert
@RicardoTolbert Год назад
I did prefer the warm audio on vocals just because the vintage sounds like it can’t handle loud signals very well. I have access to a vintage c12 as well and it does the same thing. Idk maybe I’m crazy 😂
@stoneroofstudios4700
@stoneroofstudios4700 Год назад
Great video Colt! Both the mics sound really good, I heard subtle differences on different sources however not enough of a difference to justify the price gap! My first experience using a warm audio microphone, I didn't compare it side to side with its comparison but I remember just really liking the sound of it and that was enough for me. After researching further into the company, I love what they do and the products they make. Id recommend them to anyone.
@kumosworkshop
@kumosworkshop 10 месяцев назад
After being around music all my life, but on the instrument side, I recently started a bachelor's on Music Production at Full Sail University and have been watching your channel nonstop trying to catch up with everyone else in my degree who've been producing for years. I found this video while actually researching other mic's and am absolutely blown away. Thank you for all you videos and all the knowledge you share.
@cliftonjohnson9776
@cliftonjohnson9776 Год назад
That was a tough one Colt. The Warm was very close to the C12, the low-mids sounded spot on, the high-mids sounded a bit brighter on the Warm IMHO. WIth budgets being what they are for smaller operators, the Warm would be a great addition to any mic locker.
@robgracia509
@robgracia509 Год назад
killer video colt thank you for doing this
@georgejacob3234
@georgejacob3234 Год назад
Awesome video as always colt.
@misterkenova6695
@misterkenova6695 Год назад
Warm Audio for the win. Love everything they do. Great video man, Cheers!
@huberttorzewski
@huberttorzewski Год назад
Warm Audio sounded like a cheaper mic but it sounded really good despite that. It didn't sound 24x cheaper haha. Maybe not as amazing as the real deal but still it's a very good mic to buy in 1k price range. For 1k it's a great mic, no questions. Btw I would like to see the test of all vintage mic clones Warm Audio mics in 500-1k range - I'm curious how they sound when compared.
@BeauStephenson
@BeauStephenson 8 месяцев назад
I'm listening to the raw audio tracks right now and have to agree with you. The real C12 transients pop out crisp and clear and the midrange sounds 3D. The only way I can describe it is that the Warm sounds like a really loving facsimile of the C12. Definitely super useful and not at all bad, but the 12 is special for a reason. There aren't many people out there who are making transducers the way they used to because it's an art.
@yona9798
@yona9798 Год назад
I preferred the vintage c12 on acoustic guitar because it seems to me that the warm wa-cx12 is just a tad harsher in the upper mids. On vocals I preferred the cx12 for the same reason... That being said I really don't think that that kind of difference, especially on vintage microphones, is worth it for the sound alone. I totally agree, in an a/b test you would have a really hard time telling the difference between the two (unless you have, like, a lot of experience with at least one of them). I can see the 'vibe' point as well, but sometimes I wonder how many actual vocalists are going to even notice, vs. the producers who kind of gush over these kinds of thins all the time... You really have to be in a position where you know you've already made it and anything more is just the last 0.1% to justify this kind of expense IMHO, regardless of the ginormous difference in price; Which is exactly why I love this kind of video, amazing work as always! (Altough, judging from some of the more esoteric comments, a blind a/b test might have also been worth it...)
@davidgann3251
@davidgann3251 Год назад
Same here. Couldn't tell much of a difference on the drum overheads, preferred the vintage C12 on the acoustic guitar, and preferred the Warm Audio CX12 on the vocals. Pretty much similar to most of Warm Audio's gear, they get REALLY close to what they are emulating at a very nice price. Great business model!!
@dashradio1
@dashradio1 Год назад
I was blow away how they sound almost identical..great review
@lucidalebeats
@lucidalebeats 8 месяцев назад
I recorded a session this weekend with the WA-251 and ran it into the WA-2A compressor and I was absolutely stoked with the sound
@truckguy3
@truckguy3 Год назад
DANGGG I thought that was my boy Ben killer, sounding great homie!
@SoundForgeStudio
@SoundForgeStudio Год назад
Im a little late to the party but i got this mic about a month before you posted this video i live just south of you in Murfreesboro. I got this mic for a client's project i had been working on and i wanted to bring something new and different but also nice to the vocal sessions... Hands down i cant afford a 25k mic let alone 5k mic but i got the cx12 with high hopes from word of mouth. and holy $#*T this thing is mind blowing amazing. your video is very spot on for what i discovered as well !! the cx-12 is beyond worth it...CHEERS MY DUDE !!
@chrisdover8507
@chrisdover8507 Год назад
Great video Colt. Always unbiased info. I’m excited to see what Warm release in future. Especially hardware. There’s so many products that I think home studios are screaming out for.
@petrkorinek9559
@petrkorinek9559 Год назад
I'm glad you made this video. I can clearly hear the difference. The vintage is definitely more dynamic, more 3D, there is just more depth in the sound. The frequency response of the Warm is incredibly close, but there is just some distortion going on that's not letting all the sound through
@Ynotyecslart
@Ynotyecslart Год назад
First, thank you so much for creating this video and the fantastic demonstration of these microphones side-by-side! After downloading the audio files, I ordered the WA CX12. I find it very interesting to read all the others' comments about the high-end differences, but what my ears hear consistently throughout is a very slightly thinner sound with the CX12. I hear a bit more low-end in the vintage C12, but ever so slight that it's not worth the money. Again, thank you for this excellent review!
@pioferro
@pioferro Год назад
Not surprised.. Warm really makes great stuff. Their WA73 pre is damn good, so is the WA47 tube mic. Great vid!!
@caspermaster-com
@caspermaster-com Год назад
After downloading tracks and running double blind tests. It was literally 50/50 depending on source which I preferred, and it would be fine which ever one on any source. What you said in the end is very true. Is it worth 25X the price, for a feeling of "the heroes journey" is completed, because that's the only practical difference. Its up to each and everyone to decide!
@nikgiengermakesmusic
@nikgiengermakesmusic Год назад
This blew me away.. I did a blind listen to see if I could hear the difference between the two and it was almost indistinguishable. And during the female vocals I actually said to myself, “oh yeah this is the c12” then took a quick peak and it was the cx12. Jaw hit the floor. Thanks Colt!
@nikgiengermakesmusic
@nikgiengermakesmusic Год назад
And to add to this, In the context of a mix, no one is going to know.
@RaveSongRecords
@RaveSongRecords Год назад
Nice ! Even with my earbuds, I agree with your assessment!
@nielsnielsen7567
@nielsnielsen7567 Год назад
The Warm sounds like a modern and slightly more polished version of that vintage mic. Id say it sounds ”better” because I think 99/100 of my clients would prefer that silky top and slightly more modern sound. Any mic would do a great job on basically any source and if you are shitting your pants over these differences you are just an unexperienced engineer or a very anxious person. Of course brand matters in a studio for some clients but at the end of the day most clients doesnt even know what is the front or back on a microphone. Ive been making professional sounding records the last 20 years and people dont give a fuck. Make the record sound great and people will come back. To qoute Zlatan about ikea ”rich people dont buy furniture at Ikea. No. But smart people do.” I have some incredible high end gear. And I have some incredible clones/lofi/shit gear. I think Warm is pushing low cost brands forward with their quality of sound. If it sounds good, it is good. If it sounds bad it is bad. This sounds great. And i wouldnt be afraid to throw this in front of any of my more known clients. And they wouldnt mind singing in a mic like this. Or a 57. Or a U87. Or a Milab. Or a frekking Behringer. If it sounds good.
@kylecoffey6010
@kylecoffey6010 Год назад
Truth! So true! Well said!
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Год назад
It’s does get weirdly and unnecessary OCD over subtle differences. My only anal requirement is that it’s built well and it’s hard to tell how cheaply made stuff will hold up over some years but maybe better to support smaller companies compared to bigger overpriced esteem-inflated companies.
@nielsnielsen7567
@nielsnielsen7567 Год назад
@@chinmeysway yeah. I actually did sell off an early warm mic since i felt build quality wasnt perhaps the best but this is many years ago. I totally agree on that. Some uncool mics just hold up on both sound and quality, some Audio Technica and some Shure is written off just because they not always try to be vintage or cool. Just functioning. I still use my ”first” condenser, a samson c01 that i bought for $50 22 years ago. Its my goto kick out mic haha! Ive tried to replace it but hell no. Its staying!
@robgracia509
@robgracia509 Год назад
true get the sound from the source
@jpsandberg
@jpsandberg Год назад
I actually preferred the WA-CX12 for the accoustic test. Both are great sounding and for $1000, it's well worth the money compared to the expensive one they copied! Thanks for putting this comparison together!
@garyshirinian
@garyshirinian Год назад
Thx for sharing. I do own the tube WA47 and very pleased with it. Now My next aim is on the 12. Thx again
@PorterhouseMusic
@PorterhouseMusic Год назад
Seems like a fair comparison. Thanks for putting this together.
@Joelfrancis
@Joelfrancis Год назад
I just bought me A WA-47 and I’m in love with it OMG so much quality for $949 it’s My first tube mic and I absolutely love it. I’m glad I bought it. Thanks warm audio
@danielnuzum8117
@danielnuzum8117 Год назад
I just purchased a pair of the 312 clones as well as the wa76 and wa73 and I will say, having access to every one of the clones I bought there’s not enough of a difference to drive me to purchase the high end gear, especially in the application that I’m using them for. Great video! Overall I’m incredibly impressed with the warm audio C12, I think that it’s worth it to save your money and buy25k worth of other gear than ONE MIC like what???
@supergman312
@supergman312 Год назад
On iPhone 11 speakers, the WARM replica seemed to have more high end and detail when it came to the guitar and cymbals. Cymbals almost seemed harsh. Midrange for the male vocal seemed too telephonish for me on the replica. I would buy this mic just to use it on guitar it sounded amazing
@miamiheat67
@miamiheat67 Год назад
Yeah those differences are subtle and definitely not a 24k difference. i think if an engineer wants that "wow" factor and can spend the cash on the vintage stuff, that's cool. But if i have a grand to blow and i want something that sounds nuts through a great pre, ill reach for this. Or maybe even a TLM guy if I still want that "oh look that's a Nuemann" reaction. Great video as usual, Colt!
@paulandermusic
@paulandermusic Год назад
Bought a WA251 and its awesome… Warm Audio hitting the nail on the head with all their products
@kurtpeter6047
@kurtpeter6047 Год назад
A great comparison test - very infomatic and great job. Also in our experience the CX-12 (in our opinion the only one from Warm Audio - and only in cardioid) stands up to comparison with the original C12 and have found the following: Almost the last percentage points of difference (though almost not on vocals, but on acoustic guitars) could be gained by swapping the EH 12AY7 for a TAD 12AY7 (high grade premium selected): This gives the (somewhat missed) top end sheen with the same smoothness and a tad more of the creamy low mids as the original. It's a little bit like a curtain opening. At the same time, the self noise is reduced by about 1 dB in the noise frequencies around 2 Khz.👍
@ProVoiceBH
@ProVoiceBH Год назад
Would love to see a similar video on WA-251 🤩
@ColtCapperrune
@ColtCapperrune Год назад
As do I.
@stevenewtube
@stevenewtube Месяц назад
Hi Colt. Great video and a good comparison. What I heard was that the c12 and the WA are very close indeed but the WA was, as its name says, warmer. The c12 sounds very natural and clear, almost confronting, where the WA less so, various distortions that we call warmth, though only very very slightly. The quality of the hardware is very impressive for sure. I’m in Australia so I’ll try to track one down for a tryout. Thanks man!
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 Год назад
I own the WA12 MK2 (black) mic preamp. I pair it with my LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs and they are a true diamond in my setup. Warm has great stuff.
@ProducerStefanSchnabel
@ProducerStefanSchnabel Год назад
Awesome! 🤘🏻✨🙂
@pascalmerschaudio
@pascalmerschaudio Год назад
the original c12 on acoustic, has the bite what i expected, and i missed the maybe 2000 Hz 3000 Hz bite on warm a little bit. the c12 transient was very clear ....on Vocals its sounds really the same for me too. Great Video Colt
@jemarmitchell5555
@jemarmitchell5555 Год назад
Warm audio sound open but i can hear the modern components of warm audio mic which is great for the erra we are in Vintage sound narrow n unique but it has the dept Warm audio mic is great really great i would buy the warm audio any day
@DanBires
@DanBires Год назад
One thing I noticed. The way the mics were positioned there will be a difference in sound based off the singers. So the warm was lower and would capture the voice but also the singers voice box meaning it will grab more lows verse the original that was placed higher that would capture the voice but also the nose area which is less low and more nasally. I go through this all the time when I mic singers. That type of positioning can make an over all difference. When it comes to these mic shootouts it’s tough because depending on the singer one might be better to use than the other and let’s face it. No clone will sound the same. No 2 mics really sound the same and that’s what makes them pair together well.
@hillie47
@hillie47 Год назад
Warm included extra shockmount strings with their $249/$299 WA-47jr as well. Ultimately it's less than a buck worth of extra stuff that really helps out in times of crisis (because the cord will always snap right as you have everything ready to go for that all important session 🙂). The mics are so close, that I'd only keep something vintage around if it's the difference that'll attract a client.
@YuvProd
@YuvProd Год назад
I played now with the audio files, bro they are so close almost identical. i took both takes one hard left one hard right, its sounds like when you duplicate a track, i needed to do a phase to hear it wide, warm audio did a good job here!
@TrappoLone
@TrappoLone Год назад
Have almost all the warm audio stuff. Bought with my money. Every unit (even the wa47) had been totally comparable to the original. Love their stuff.
@BuddyQuaid
@BuddyQuaid Год назад
Great video! Warm's mics are awesome. Definitely can't tell a $20k+ difference!
@stevesrecordingtips7247
@stevesrecordingtips7247 Год назад
Good shootout. I could hear the difference. It's like the real C12 had nearly 2dB of variation at a couple of frequencies. I bet if I had a CX12 and a mild EQ, I could make them indistinguishable.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 Год назад
Cool video. I'm just at the first comparison on the drum overheads but I'm finding that I have to turn up my speakers to really hear what's going on. Then, when you voice comes in, wow. Way louder. BTW, I'm listening on my Kali LP6s and my Sennheiser HD 280 Pro headphones in my little home studio. I really want to know how this mic sounds. I think the Warm Audio mic sounds great.Good enough to justify the cost which is minimal compared to the other mic. It's about the law of diminishing returns. The expensive mic doesn't sound $20,000 better. I thin, in a mix, you'd never know.
@NoobtuberKidd
@NoobtuberKidd Год назад
THANKS BUDDY!
@theworkshopstudio2069
@theworkshopstudio2069 10 месяцев назад
Love the comparison vid! Listening to it on youtube with a set of AKG K240 Sextett MPs on a run-o-the-mill m-audio interface... (The sextetts {70's/80's} are known for their soundstage and quick, full range response compared to all the other K240's they've made... worth checking out!) For me there was a lot more of the tom resonance with the C12's, along with a deeper room dimension... overall I found the C12's to sound a little fuller from around 200 down, faster, and generally more responsive... it felt more like you were in the room with the source. The warm for me had a bit of a resonance around 300, and maybe a roll off up top... I dug the Warm more on the male vocal because of it. That said, they all sounded great! This is subtle stuff, and with a little dynamic EQ I don't think it would take much to get similar results out of the warm, while saving enough to buy a van. I hear $1000 of difference I guess... From here, the originals seem to sound like the warms with an expander or exciter applied.
@jcpuga
@jcpuga Год назад
Those Male Vocals on the Warm Audio!! SHEESH! 🔥🔥🔥 I've noticed Warm Audio keeps their Mid to High-Mids freq. in their mics. Even remakes. Which makes it seem like the vintage one is diff. But why not just do some slight EQing? Subbed 👍
@BrianWalis-Producer
@BrianWalis-Producer Год назад
Maybe this has been said, but it would have been awesome to see your thoughts of the two microphones in a mix. I'm willing to bet that they would be almost identical after mixing.
@tommymartini34
@tommymartini34 Год назад
I think the warm did very well on all of these tests. I'll have to say that the biggest difference that I heard was within the male vocal. I think the warm audio sounded a little bit thinner but I personally would not spend 20K on a microphone even if I had it because every microphone has character. Ps I own a warm 87, 47 tube, and 251. I think they're all fantastic I just like to have a variety Plus preamps bring out character in general so you can get a slate digital or Townsend which I also have and go through the mic modeling software and just get a different tone. Maybe not or definitely not the same exact as the originals but just a great microphone modeling system especially the Townsend. I absolutely love the Townsend modeling software. I'm still probably going to pick up the warm 800 and maybe even this mic even though I have my lovely aventone cv-12 it would still be cool to have this Mic my collection. Awesome awesome review would love to see you compare 251's and 47s and of course the 800...oh and would like to see the warm u67 head to head with the realness. That's another warm mic I want 😉
@qlyde
@qlyde Год назад
Great Video Colt! Maybe worth it in Nashville or other big session cities where people know gear and appreciate it, if it brings you 10 extra clients a year then it’ll pay itself off pretty soon, but for most modern genres I don’t think the name on the gear means much to the Artist, sometimes they won’t even know the difference between a preamp and an EQ. If I tell a client who doesn’t know gear too well that I have a StamChild and it’s the best thing ever, and their mix comes out better than ever, they’ll probably go around talking to their other musician friends about this crazy compressor I got and won’t care wether it’s a clone or not! Depends on the clients and if you’re mentally strong enough 😂
@vaughnwebbermusic
@vaughnwebbermusic Год назад
Brilliant drummer!
@nkingofficial
@nkingofficial 8 месяцев назад
Ya I just bought the WA87 R2, waiting for it to come in. I love Warm Audio stuff 🤷‍♂️
@biggsoft6910
@biggsoft6910 Год назад
On overheads Warm Audio sounded more relaxed to my ears which I think is a good thing after all the compression, saturation etc on drumbus and further down the line. Compared to the vintage C12 I did like the vintage one more, felt slightly more present. Not night and day though
@RETCHED-METAL
@RETCHED-METAL Год назад
Cool video brother
@thumbody1
@thumbody1 Год назад
I agree with your assessment. On drums the AKG had a more pronounced and rounded sound around 120Hz. It was apparent when he played the toms. The midrange and top end were very close. There was just a little more clarity above 12kHz on the AKG. On both male and female vocals, with the singers you used, I really couldn't hear a measurable difference except for that extreme top end extension. The 200Hz thing you said about the AKG was most apparent on the acoustic guitar. I can see a WA-CX12 in my future. I already have a WA47 tube from them and the mid to upper mid, midrange depth and clarity is killer on it. The top end is a little subdued but there is a place for that in my mic locker. No microphone sounds good on everything and everyone. Choices must be made to fit the source element in order to get the best out of it. For me, it's not as much about if it actually compares to the real McCoy, it's about if it is a great sounding mic in its own right. The WA-CX12 sounds really good. If I had the disposable funds to buy a real C12 I wouldn't be watching this. Great job on the video.
@Sleemzz
@Sleemzz Год назад
Both mics sound great. If I received something recorded with either mic to mix I'd be happy.
@shades8030
@shades8030 Год назад
Something that I noticed when is that the CX12 is able to take reverb more naturally. I listened to the tracks on the CX12 and C12 back to back, and the C12, when adding reverb, sounded unnatural. This was the case for both the guitar and vocals in my experience. Edit: Sorry! I forgot to thanks you guys for this great comparison. This was the exact video that I needed to finally pull the trigger on getting the CX12. Thank you!
@brendanlister883
@brendanlister883 Год назад
The difference is so minimal, i preferred the WA on the female vocal, it sounded awesome if you ask me. I would happily buy a WA if i needed one. Amazing video man great work.
@stupendousmusic4190
@stupendousmusic4190 Год назад
Nice comparison 👍🏻 I checked out Warm's stuff at NAMM two years ago, and I thought it was all quite impressive. It would be great if you could do the same test with a real U67 and the Warm WA67 🙏🏻
@TomasBodin
@TomasBodin 8 месяцев назад
For me the sound is close but somehow a bit more muffled with the Warm mic. Subtle but still there. Still a really good A+B test and much appreciated! Should add that I got the CX-12 :)
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez Год назад
Warm sounds great!
@spikeafrican8797
@spikeafrican8797 Год назад
The telefunken really shone on the acoustic, but the rest was a toss up for me. The warm c12 is a real acheivement.
@dankurydotcom
@dankurydotcom Год назад
this comment is precisely how I feel,
@ChrstnSmrvllMsc
@ChrstnSmrvllMsc Год назад
OMGsh, that acoustic sound!!!
@damiancafarella4086
@damiancafarella4086 Год назад
Yes! Totally concur!
@chuckaguilar
@chuckaguilar 2 месяца назад
I'm blown away. Super interesting though, with the acoustic guitar, I hear exactly the same. And with female vocals, there is practically no difference. Thanks for the video!
@keithsparbanie2108
@keithsparbanie2108 Год назад
I love Warm Audio. The WA-CX12 is on my Wish List.
@Ibantar
@Ibantar Год назад
Warm Audio is the SHIZZNITZ fo'real!!!!!!! Very little difference between the two! If I had $26K to use for audio gear... I'd grab that WA-CX12 and use the rest to pretty much outfit a nice home studio set up! (THIS VIDEO has me sold to get the WA-8000!! NO NEED to spend $10k or more on a Sony 800G). Excellent video sir👊🏾!!
@aubyoung1218
@aubyoung1218 Год назад
We appreciate your support! -WA wife. 😘
@ianmorris7686
@ianmorris7686 Год назад
I could definitely pick out the difference blind, but it did sound good at least. 😊
@AnthonyAorua
@AnthonyAorua 2 месяца назад
Listening through my ATC's and A17M's. The WA-CX12, Sounds Impressive:
@gotthatfromjumbo
@gotthatfromjumbo Год назад
Would love to see this with the c800!!
@dominikperkovic3058
@dominikperkovic3058 Год назад
What is this intro song?? Anyways lovely video as always Colt :)
@ryanjones4150
@ryanjones4150 9 месяцев назад
Nice video. I have some questions though, couldn't there have been some kind of graphical visual analysis of the sound spectrum produced by both mics ? Also, I would be interested in hearing a comparison of the mics plugged into each other's preamps.
@TeikevanBaden
@TeikevanBaden 4 месяца назад
Even in a commercial facility there is little reason to go for a vintage C12; unless you are working with artists making global hits. If you then add the little extras of all the tracks and processing that can sometimes make the difference between a very good and an exceptionally great song.
@drakewatkins2624
@drakewatkins2624 Год назад
Would swapping out the stock tube in the warm audio for a nos Mullard make a significant difference wow great video yet again bro thanks
@luisavila9436
@luisavila9436 Год назад
I admire the price difference, however, the vibe and presence the C12 carries is very unique. I have a 47jr. I love it. Go warm audio!
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@ChrisMartinsMusician
@ChrisMartinsMusician Год назад
Sounded pretty much identical on everything but the acoustic guitar where on my speakers it had just a tiny teeny bit less "boom", but then again... in a mix... who cares. And you get 2 and a half modern mics for the price of one vintage one. Vintage gear is cool... it does bring the vibe you mention... but it's just a mind game. I'd get the Warm... I'm actually considering their Neve and API pre replicas to upgrade my preamp game, and I already have a 610mkII and a JoeMeek Twin Q... But you know... gear... :) Great videos Colt, keep up the good work. :)
@owlmega-101
@owlmega-101 Год назад
The vintage C12 is around $25,000. So you can get 25 modern ones for that price lol.
@ChrisMartinsMusician
@ChrisMartinsMusician Год назад
@@owlmega-101 All the more reason not to get one... But even if you consider the Telefunken version, my answer still stands. :) 25 grand ? Not in this lifetime. lol
@owlmega-101
@owlmega-101 Год назад
@@ChrisMartinsMusician Yes, and a decent room is much much more important than the mic. Even considering an ultimate vocal mic, I think a price range between $1000 - 3000 would just be more than enough.
@ChrisMartinsMusician
@ChrisMartinsMusician Год назад
@@owlmega-101 Absolutely. The performance, the room, the mic, the preamp.... in that order. :)
@mixedbygip8938
@mixedbygip8938 Год назад
Man, Warm audio hit it right on the nose with this one! I just downloaded the files and Listened with my eyes closed and its spot on for the most part. I own the warm audio 8000 Great mic. But honestly, I think I like the Warm C12 Just as much if not more! It's a no brainer to get one of these for the studio! I see that Manley Reference in the back that's the microphone I really want for my go to Mic for my studio. but great video!
@MrArtVein
@MrArtVein Год назад
I've been trying to find someone with that c800 clone for the longest, how does it stand up? What do you like about it, don't like? I have an sm7b and U87 but need to round out the collection with something for instant pop vocals
@mixedbygip8938
@mixedbygip8938 Год назад
@@MrArtVein The 8000 is a dope mic! It has that modern sound But it’s not for every vocalist. I honestly feel like the warm audio C12 will fit more vocalist if you record a lot of vocals!
@martygintronic7071
@martygintronic7071 Год назад
Great review! Of course there´s a difference but you´ll notice the difference in two original C12s in 2022 even more after years of being in use. Maybe the Warms will sound softer after years of use as well. I´d never go for a stereo pair of original C12s - rather take the Warms and invest the rest into a nice (not so) small format console :-) and dial the tone in. When it comes to stereo matching, Warm, Flea or Telefunken would be my Go-Tos though.
@knuckleheadrecordingstudio2050
Warm did a great job getting the bottom and top end thing pretty close and that's what makes the C12 special. Great job. I hear the difference in the mids. The C12 has a dip in the 800hz-3khz area and the dip isn't as big on the Warm. Not saying it's better or not better but that's the biggest different I heard.
@iAmWorldsDestroyerOfDeath
@iAmWorldsDestroyerOfDeath Год назад
Spot on take away. Recording studios can easily justify purchases rarified items when clients will pay expecting originals, regardless of the differences.
@gatorbullproductions6246
@gatorbullproductions6246 Год назад
Warm Audio make high quality gear at an affordable price, stop sleeping on them. Good ass video man 🔥🔥🔥
@buhlir
@buhlir Год назад
the only big dif I hear is the top end is a little sharper on the Warm. and that will probably chill out with time. Its so good. They do a great job.
@deryckroche
@deryckroche Год назад
The last country (male) singer is where you really heard the difference because he had an upper mid range voice that to me broke up on the original C12 but shined on the CX12. For the drums I liked both but the C12 had nicer top end but the CX12 still sounded great. CX12 for me all day long especially for $1000 USD!
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 Год назад
You nailed it Deryck. His upper mids were a bit more aggressive on the C12. The CX12 seemed to tame them a bit. I've read it was a favorite mic among engineers for female singers. Now I kinda get it, cheers. Having said that, if I were rich man...
@Chaz_r
@Chaz_r Год назад
Colt pretty please do a comparison of the U 87 and UT Twin 87
@willowlacrosse3728
@willowlacrosse3728 Год назад
The vintage C12 is for collectors at that price point. Insane!
@volkerwiedersheim
@volkerwiedersheim Год назад
thx for the great comparison. Just curious, tho: Is Warm Audio the Behringer of posh mics?
@chucknkd
@chucknkd Год назад
finally got the files and compared, only vocals. for me, I heard a texture in the female voice with the TF C12 that I didn't get in the Warm, both sounded good on her. the male singer's mid frequency was even more pronounced with the warm. I preferred the TF over the warm on both, but not for the $. thx for the video!
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@polyphonicgroove
@polyphonicgroove Год назад
I have the WA-87 and it is freaking awesome!! It has elevated my vocal recordings exponentially!!! I'm sorry, but the Vintage C-12 does NOT sound 25x better than the WA-CX12...not even 2x better. Warm Audio makes amazing products for 1/3 of the cost in its weight class. Try adding one of their mic-pres then run it through their Bus-Comp....pure heaven!! My next purchase is the WA-251 and then the WA-47 and finally I have my eyes on this WA-CX12. After that, no need to EVER buy another vocal mic.
@AndyKingCo
@AndyKingCo Год назад
I love the WA251!
@MADIXOMAHA
@MADIXOMAHA Год назад
I put a Tab Funkenwerk T13 transformer in my WA-87 and it's even better than warm's stock cinemag transformer!! Something to think about :D
@mcsweet1966
@mcsweet1966 Год назад
I had to fire up the studio and the barefoot to really tell them appart, they a very close but the C12 is still the clear winner but at 25k +++ I freaking hope so :) it`s a great Mic, I love what it did on the drums we could ear the room, the depth and that little more meat on the snare was sweet. I`m still using my Townsend labs L22 but for a Mic under 2k, Maybe for Chrimas LOL Thanks for another Great Video !
@lilrealondatrack
@lilrealondatrack Год назад
Love this do the sony C800G vs Warm audio clone
@soulSaysHi
@soulSaysHi Год назад
Man, that c12 blows the Warm away. No wonder they’re 20k. Time to start saving up!
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