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Do We Have an Accurate Copy of the Bible? Addressing Common Criticism 

Alisa Childers
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@RaymondRudge-z1o
@RaymondRudge-z1o 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your website and this talk from Peter Williams. It's another good video you've presented and both have been instrumental in bring me back to faith from a nightmare of doubt and unbelief over several years. Forever grateful.
@stevenboyd593
@stevenboyd593 2 месяца назад
"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it". Isaiah 55:11
@realityisbest8963
@realityisbest8963 2 месяца назад
Thank you.
@Celeste-new49
@Celeste-new49 2 месяца назад
wow - thank you! I just finished reading "Misquoting Jesus" last night, had a rough night sleep because of it, then found this video today. I'm checking your other videos out too. I had been lost for a few years thinking I was a "Christian Universalist" and watched with my teen kids the UU church become a full blown "social justice trans pride" cult. I have always believed in Jesus, but had never found a spiritual home due to abusive "Christian" hypocrites I kept running into. After witnessing all of this, I'm trying hard to find a real Christian Bible centered church for my kids and myself. My WA town is super leftist controlled, so there are only a couple of churches I have found that look to be still Christian - one Baptist and the other Assemblies of God. We're visiting with caution, but I have hope and I pray often to guide my children better in finding their path to Jesus.
@doerrjams5770
@doerrjams5770 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this content, Alisa. This is more in line with the important apologetics of biblical literacy and return to orthodoxy that brought me to appreciate your work. Our trust and reliance on the Bible is so critical! I favor this kind of content over some of the recent vidoes you've done that seems lean into uncharitable caricatures and imprecise accusations of other Christians who follow orthodox, historic Christianity. I'm all for calling out the heretical deception of liberal theology and progressive Christianity, but let's be precise and fair in these accusations so that we don't become numb to them. Thanks for your work on this video.
@shacker2222
@shacker2222 2 месяца назад
I would say the KJV is the closest to a word for word translation from the original Hebrew/Greek. Not these other "Bibles" (NIV, NASB, ESV, CSB, RSV, The Message") that try to imply what scholars "think what it should say". That is why there are problems in Christianity......too many Bibles that are really not "translations".
@Isaiah2vsMicah4
@Isaiah2vsMicah4 2 месяца назад
Some versions not sticking to the original hebrews and greek scrolls, omitting verses like the NIV and paraphrasing like the message are not good, but studying PRAYERFULLY, is key and understanding that God will never let anyone searching for truth to be misled and that means Holy Spirit led believers will be convicted ln SPIRIT as to which version to study.
@colinevans1177
@colinevans1177 2 месяца назад
Thats why we need to stick to the KJV.
@katherineking3174
@katherineking3174 2 месяца назад
Only one version
@Isaiah2vsMicah4
@Isaiah2vsMicah4 2 месяца назад
Be wary of all this end time denying what the bible says or “telling you” what its actually saying. If you believe in Father YeHoVaH and His Son Yeshua, then prayerfully ask for the gift of understanding. He will NEVER let you be misled as long as you dont lean on man for truth. Lean and trust ONLY on God The Father through the blood of Yeshua His Son. By the way, double PhD in ancient Hebrew and Greek, Dr Nehemia Gordon found the name WITH VOWELS in the original manuscripts as YeHoVaH.
@Isaiah2vsMicah4
@Isaiah2vsMicah4 2 месяца назад
@@katherineking3174 there are many versions, but many unGodly. The message bible contains verses that mimic satanic quotes… do as thy will… for example
@inChristalone1960
@inChristalone1960 2 месяца назад
@@Isaiah2vsMicah4 😳
@greenguitarfish
@greenguitarfish 2 месяца назад
We have very strong evidence that the scriptures we read today were accurately preserved. However, since many don’t accept what God told us about the creation account, and the biblical timeline, but instead throw out Genesis and instead place their faith in anti biblical Big Bang ideas from the world, it doesn’t seem to matter. Hugh Ross pushes these cult like ideas, claiming God instituted death before sin, and that Noah’s Flood was just a local event. He also claims there were “pre Adamites” who lived before Adam and Eve. Such obvious heresies should be soundly rejected, but this RU-vid channel actively promotes it ! Shameful.
@LemLures
@LemLures 2 месяца назад
We don’t even have any originals of Shakespeare, but only a mere 200 copies.
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 2 месяца назад
Shakespeare doesn’t save souls, so it doesn’t matter the same way.
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz 2 месяца назад
@@stevenbatke2475 He also didn't write the plays attributed to him.
@frankmckinley1254
@frankmckinley1254 2 месяца назад
God breathed and providential preservation takes care of variants in manuscripts.
@RJ-ie9bf
@RJ-ie9bf 2 месяца назад
All of this discussion over the Bible can become a huge distraction. The bottom line is the question we all must grapple with. What do you believe about Jesus? Do you believe that He is the sinless Son of our Father Who was born to a virgin girl, lived a sinless life as a fully human person (100% God and 100% human) in a single male human body, and that He died on a cross as you and as me, taking the punishment we deserve, so that we could become born again and live out our days as beloved sons and daughters of our heavenly Father? That's where the rubber meets the road. If you never receive what Jesus accomplished for you, whether or not your Bible is 100% accurate is a moot point. The Spirit of Truth will lead you into all truth, trust Him to lead you to the translation. Knowledge can puff up, it's the Spirit Who leads you to life.
@realityisbest8963
@realityisbest8963 2 месяца назад
You guys are dangerously in alignment with Bart Ehrman.
@David-ve8pk
@David-ve8pk 2 месяца назад
Any Bible after 2017 published is certainly questionable regardless of version. Be careful and stay using Bibles published prior to 2017.
@insiderinside1905
@insiderinside1905 2 месяца назад
is not bart ehrman behind this claim? word is that his scholarly work admits that no major doctrine is at stake from these minor copyist errors, yet his popular work makes these sensationalized claims. hold his feet tothe fire
@AmenMama-qe4sq
@AmenMama-qe4sq 2 месяца назад
There are entire verses omitted in some versions! There is NO WAY you can trust those. They DO NOT speak the truth of the scriptures.
@barryjtaft
@barryjtaft 2 месяца назад
The Critical Greek Text (from which all modern versions translated) has the equivalent of first and 2nd Peter missing from it.
@quetzelmichaels1637
@quetzelmichaels1637 2 месяца назад
Bart Ehrman became my favorite author when I studied. I never found myself being putoff by anything he had to say. He is a scholar of the N.T.. He is not preaching a version of Chritianity. There are two appearances, within the same generation, at the end of the ages, the time of the harvest - the sacrifice followed by the resurrection. Does the Bible read like a record of historical events? Walls falling with a shout?
@michaelseay9783
@michaelseay9783 2 месяца назад
Use the KJV, but also check certain key words with a thesaurus to better understand the literature meaning of a passage. And don’t assume that if a word has 2 or more different translations in Greek that the definition of the word or words should be changed. *BIG MISTAKE.* Many people are finding alternate meanings in Greek and they automatically think that the translation of the word was faulty to begin with, *_so then they try to argue that simply because they found an alternate meaning in Greek that the passage, by default, automatically means something else._*
@steveabell8946
@steveabell8946 2 месяца назад
If you believe in God Breated God breathed it makes a difference.
@somerandom3247
@somerandom3247 2 месяца назад
So in short, no.
@JD-er4gf
@JD-er4gf 2 месяца назад
A delivery truck delivering to the wrong address or a driver misplacing merchandise wouldn’t have the same impact on the world as the revelation that Biblical texts have been redacted over the course of thousands of years; texts that influence politics, public policy, and human psychology and behavior. I’ve heard this analogy, and similar analogies, used before. It’s time to put it to rest. There is scholarly consensus that Mark 16:9-20, John 7:53-8:11, and the Johannine Comma are scribal additions. This consensus includes conservative Christian scholars like Bruce Metzger. There is also scholarly disagreement on the authorship of many books currently included in the Protestant canon. There are books that remain in other canons that have been removed from the Protestant canon. If material can, and has, been inserted and removed, how can we be sure of the integrity of the transmission of the Biblical text currently in our possession? I find it dishonest that apologists are often dismissive of errors in the text, claiming that no major doctrines are directly impacted by spelling, grammar, etc. Consider Genesis 36. Verse 4 states that Eliphaz is the son of Esau and Adah. Verse 5 lists Esau’s sons to Oholibamah as Jeush, Jalam, and Korah. Verse 11 lists Eliphaz’s sons as Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz. Verse 12 names Timna as a concubine of Eliphaz who bore him a son named Amalek. Verses 15 and 16 once again list Eliphaz’s sons. The list reads Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz, Korah, Gatam, and Amalek. Eliphaz appears to have acquired an extra son: Korah. Wait a minute, I thought Korah was Esau’s son conceived with Oholibamah. Did she misplace one of her sons? If so, she appears to have located him by verse 18 because he once again appears in the list of her sons with Esau. Perhaps 1 Chronicles 1 can straighten this out. Let’s see…here we go. Verse 35. Korah is still listed as one of Esau’s sons. So far so good. Let’s take a look at verse 36 now. Eliphaz’s sons are listed as Teman, Omar, Zephi (Zepho?), Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek. Hmm…Eliphaz appears to have gained an extra son again. And that son is…his concubine?! Now, some might say that Esau’s lineage being an unnavigable mess is no big deal. All central doctrines remain unaffected by the likelihood that the scribes who copied Genesis 36 and 1 Chronicles 1 perhaps enjoyed a little too much strong drink that day. However, I have one simple question. If one genealogy is incoherent, how can we be certain of the genealogies found in Matthew 1 and Luke 3?
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 2 месяца назад
Apologists aren’t in the truth department, they’re in the dogma department.
@hornplayer1228
@hornplayer1228 2 месяца назад
The answer to the topic question is a very strong NO. Even before the canon of the New Testament was finalised the various councils, starting from the 3rd century, were getting rid of everything that gave hope to humans that would prevent gaining control over their minds by an established church. Teaching of congregations by the Spirits of Truth promised by Jesus through the Prophetic Gift and reincarnation for the purification of souls were the first to go. Luckily the very detailed heresies directed against Origen accurately portray the early Christian thought of those days - still ignored by charismatic christians today because it is contrary to the rubbish formulated between the 3rd and 5th century by worldly men that has been handed down through history.
@JohnMark1313
@JohnMark1313 2 месяца назад
Talking about Hebrew and Greek manuscripts address having accurate manuscripts, not if we have accurate English translations. Having spent a few years with Bible translation work in Africa, it opened my eyes to the challenges of language and translation. It also made me realize that translators (and publishers) all have background bias and agendas that flavor what they do. If it was straight forward and “accurate”, why do we have so many different English versions? Accuracy cannot be defined as being word for word perfect.
@neverclevernorwitty7821
@neverclevernorwitty7821 2 месяца назад
If only there was an institution that carried the oral AND written traditions of apostolic succession….
@JD-er4gf
@JD-er4gf 2 месяца назад
@neverclevernorwitty7821 Heeey…I see what you did there!
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 2 месяца назад
Why does Yahweh refuse to channel his Divine Words directly into each person? Using flawed humans to write down His Divine Words in language that changes over time is a bad idea that ends in failure. The original documents transmitted by Yahweh thousands of years ago are long gone.
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 2 месяца назад
Yeah, but the copies aren’t copied all at the same time, like your 8 billion comparison. So, that’s not a fair or equivalent comparison. Copies were made from copies of copies of copies of copies. That is not a mathematical trick, that’s just the fact of how the bible was “preserved”.
@Yashuahservant
@Yashuahservant 2 месяца назад
The fact that he described "to think of the Bible as a magic spell" leads me to believe he's lying! Discernment truly is a gift! Colossians 2:8 [8]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
@joycoates3698
@joycoates3698 2 месяца назад
I think you may have misunderstood what he said... he didn't say "to think of it as a magical spell", he said "because 'They' think of the Bible as a magic spell"-- he wasn't supporting that view, he was explaining the Error of that view that 'some people' have.
@rinihogewoning6528
@rinihogewoning6528 2 месяца назад
​@@joycoates3698Correct.
@inChristalone1960
@inChristalone1960 2 месяца назад
Peter Williams is a reliable scholar. It is good to listen to him speak. Bart Erman has cast many doubts, like the telephone game analogy which was ridiculious.
@Yashuahservant
@Yashuahservant 2 месяца назад
@@inChristalone1960 thank you. I'm not familiar with Peter Williams but I'll check him out. Have a blessed evening.
@inChristalone1960
@inChristalone1960 2 месяца назад
@@Yashuahservant Yes, He studies scriptural contextual criticism. He has a PHD from Oxford University.
@mikewatson5281
@mikewatson5281 2 месяца назад
Bart Ehrman said scribes were selected based on who in the village owned a pen 😂😂
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms 2 месяца назад
Big Eva went in and changed the Bible in 325ad at the behest of Emperor Ortlundstine.
@countrylover10101
@countrylover10101 2 месяца назад
There's 611 Books that the Council of Nicia blocked from being put in our bibles, The real 1st book of the New Testament is Q Believed to have been written by Yeshuahs own hand. Not Jesus because the letter J never existed in any language until about 500 years ago.
@bradleypenrod07
@bradleypenrod07 2 месяца назад
Have you read the canons of the council of Nicaea?
@countrylover10101
@countrylover10101 2 месяца назад
@@bradleypenrod07 No
@Yashuahservant
@Yashuahservant 2 месяца назад
And guess where they're keeping it hidden? It is underneath the most richest building of the Roman pagan house!
@bradleypenrod07
@bradleypenrod07 2 месяца назад
⁠@@countrylover10101You should you can find the canons of the council with a simple search. The canon wasn’t decided at the council. The primary issue was Arianism.
@countrylover10101
@countrylover10101 2 месяца назад
@@Yashuahservant In Trump's 1st year as President he had our Military invade the vatican and the confiscated all 777 books plus over 96 Quadrillion in Gold and silver.
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