I guess this applies to children as well? You see some parents who would watch their kid drag another kid by their hair and their only reaction is :" nooo staaap" with no intention of stopping them.
I see a lot of dog folks are performative in their 'control' ...they act like theyre upset with their dog for behaving a certain way, yet they're the ones enabling the behavior they don't like. Then they human talk the dog like "oh no! you no better, you cant do that! no! what...you know you shouldnt! oh my ...im sooo sorry!" then repeat.
For many years when I was a kid I thought I didn't like dogs, they're too wild and up in your face. I eventually realized that there are plenty of different temperaments and variance between dogs. A lot of what I don't like is actually dog *people*.
Tell me about it. When I hear dog people, I think of our family members who think that an invitation to a party means that they can bring their dog too! The worst is when the dog is a psychopathic biting douche and/or when they let their dog go into the pool without asking permission.
PC (Play Consume) here and have never owned a dog and have a very hard time with people who can't control their dog. You go to their house and their dog is jumping all over me, and trying to take my food, and some dogs even bite me, and the owner is just like *shrug*. Hate it so much! That's why I love cats so much. They will either leave you alone, or they will be friendly. Some cats are mean, but if you leave them alone they are fine. Dogs can act so wild. Especially if the owner doesn't discipline it or take it for walks...
I’m an ENFP and I’m starting to think I’m Blast last... I HATE controlling people or animals. I literally went to a friend’s house and she got chicks because they raise chickens, and I got to hold one of the chicks while I was there. Upon holding the chick for a while, I began to get scared that in holding her, I was rewiring that chick’s brain to like being held by me and thus making her rely on me, since she stopped crying when I picked her up. I felt I was doing the chick an injustice since she was too young to think for herself and I was taking advantage of that by forcing her to calm down around me. SHE hadn’t chosen ME, but rather, the other way around, and it made me feel cruel to hold her close without her true permission. I was then scared to interact with her (because I’d be violating her rights, sort of) and contemplated letting her fend for herself with the other chicks instead. Then I literally sat there for a moment and realized how weird my thought process was, and how I’d really have to change that mindset if I wanted to ever become a parent later on in life. I guess part of parenting or raising anyone is controlling them for a time... even if I really, really hate it, and part of me almost wants to automatically advocate that the one under that control has “rights” to themselves and what they want to do... when they technically shouldn’t have those rights at all, since they aren’t of age to fend for themselves in the world.
This is why cats are much more comforting to have around, even if they're dickheads. They're much more independent and need a lot less control and authority
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo *Mondo dumps* My cat is pretty much the same except way cleaner, she always somehow manages to come back with a dirty face though, and chases and gets chased by the other cats on the street. My guess is Fe/Se PC/S
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo don't get me wrong, I agree that animals have different temperaments. It's just bizarre to me to identify lead Fi or lead Ne in a cat. I replied to your other comment based on what you described of your sister's dog and while the template is the same for dogs as a species the execution would be noticably different for a more sensitive dog. Likewise if the issue was anxiety instead of dominance, for example, the foundation of how canine brains work is still what you'd build the methodology on making adjustments based on what parts of the psychology you're addressing. It's only the specificity of typing animals that throws me.
I’m an INTP, I believe, but I’ve always had a rigidly disciplined dog. I’m not Milan level with it by any means, but a well-trained dog is a happy dog. Humans don’t enjoy the dog if the dog is rude, and the dog wants to have positive social interactions. Same principal as with kids. I think that people who are disinclined first ever be the “bad guy” are actually being selfish. You’re doing things because you want to feel good, not because it’s what is best for the animal.
Our family was definitely a "let the dog be a dog" type of family. Seemed OK for the most part cause she was a friendly dog, but I didn't realise just how uncontrolling we were until I moved out. Years later I'm like... even I an MF-Ne/Ti-CP/S(B) wouldn't take their new dog's shit. Grabbing socks and other "human things" just so she could get a little tug of war game and a treat from her human subjects wasn't gonna fly with me. [he said flexing his ability to control]
Dooon't. Come onnn. I'm an INFP, so I kinda let my dog do what he feels like, lol. I don't want to take control. You're killing me with that last clip, guys. Oh, nooooooooooooooooooo.
One of the things I can imagine being a challenge for me in raising a child would be the disciplining side. I am quite wary of being “the bad guy”, especially over something minor. How intense should I be about it? And once I find out that I am making mistakes in my parenting, how can I change my style in a way that isn’t so abrupt as to come off as fake, or even sorta fucked up? I’m only 20 and so have time to think through this but I definitely need to take these considerations seriously before easing a child. Or owning a dog (I’d prefer a small dog or a cat for easier maintenance).
This is a good one. I normally let my Mini-Goldendoodle do his thing but he has been through many classes with me so communication between us is very good and he is constantly trained. My ESTJ wife says he still gets away with too much so I let her be the controller.
As an INTJ, I’m a control freak. It is an honor and a privilege to be the bad guy. There’s no way in hell I’d let my dog act a fool in public or be a nuisance to people.
My spouse is a trainer, so I can say this is pretty much right on. However, there is another outcome to the first scenario, that the people with aggressive or unsocialized dogs that blame the other dog/owner for the bad interaction. Those people are narcissistic or sociopathic IMO. Here's a helpful hint. When someone asks you "Is your dog friendly?" that means their's isn't. What they are really saying is that my dog is a unsocialized POS, and when your dog doesn't like getting bullied, your dog is the "problem." You can answer "no," or if you like making these assholes uncomfortable, reply "Is your's?"
Could u plz share how u always have the perfect videos? Do u first see the video and then come up with the idea or u actually have some magic searching machine?
Could you provide more specifics with the personality types that do well with controlling their dog vs. those that don't? Flesh it out more? I would think those high in Te are good at it and those low in it would do worse. But in the video you only briefly mentioned Cesar being C/S. Is that helpful for controlling dogs? I've seen IxFJs do well with dogs and it's even stereotyped that xNFJs are good with animals. But for commanding and "being alpha" they wouldn't be ranked high in MBTI. So how does this translate to dog rearing?
Cesar is actually BS/PC. I would say getting in touch with the Blast animal should help bc it's all about teaching, speaking clearly, getting started etc. Anyone with Blast up top will do this automatically since they can't help it.
SC is a double introverted combo, so I would always just give up tbh 😂. But really tho, I would watch them (Consume takes in info) but not approach (Sleep saves energy and doesn't engage with the outside)
I would be 100% ok if people don’t come over my house because my dog 🐶 is being a DOG. They can choose to do whatever they want and I get to choose whatever I allow to be done in my house.
I enjoyed that last clip- there was no harm there. Chaos is ok as long as there’s no danger. If the DOG was climbing on Steve, or eating Steve’s cupcake, that would be different.
I'm a entp, I fecking hate control.. I actually hate the idea of getting my puppy done, that was controlling for my needs to be the owner.. But I am starting to put boundaries in place as I cant have him biting someone tho a pug of 6 months.. I need him to feel secure.
So I'm an INTP with C first. Why am I so controlling with my dog then. Or is this just anecdotal bullshit that sometimes can apply to specific animals. Edit: I now recognize I sound like a asshole. Please understand that I'm genuinely asking a question because those seems to be inaccurate to me.
@sina yyy that cannot work that way. C/B and S/P are on opposite sides of a coin. I'm also blast last. If C is a savior them the second animal is either P or S
@sina yyy Explain how Blast has to = control over things? It's a combination of all the animals and the gender modalities and which cognitive functioms
@sina yyy I have a hard time believing an ENTP would be afraid to live with someone because of potentially being poisoned by them. ENTP are naturally accustomed to chaos and living on the edge. Or at least the stereotypical ones are.
@sina yyy and also think about it. You originally commented on my post saying I'm blast second. Then realized wait it doesn't work that way. You tried to blast to the tribe information before consuming every square inch on info on the topic and THEN blasting it. Perhaps blast savior for you then?
Cesar Milan literally said, dogs don't think, they react. This is the most ridiculous piece of garbage I've seen you share in a long time. I suggest you look up actual behaviorists who have the slightest understanding of dogs' minds before you share such egregious misinformation. Milan has been cited on multiple occasions for giving bad and dangerous advice. Stick with the human psychology, lay off the animal psychology until you learn a lot more. Thank you.
