At the end of the day I think it comes down to results. If you have 10 players in a round robin the player with the most wins/ points on loses if tied is the highest rated player. Even if he never slices and avoids his backhand if his athleticism and consistency keeping the ball in play determines his/her rating more then doing everything OK. Natural Athleticism, level at other racket sports before playing, and ability to adapt mentally reign supreme.
**Awesome Video* !* More people need to watch this so they can accurately rate themselves. It's wild how people ( _that have been playing open play for a year_ ) are so off on their rankings when they finally start tournament play.
The circles I play in, most everyone is a 3.5 to 4.0, so if you get the chance to dig in deeper into the finer differences that separate these two groups, I would love that!
Thank you for posting. My 3rd shot is weak, but I haven't had anyone to practice where I live... Ever. AZ here I come. I'm waiting for Simone's autobiography book... If she writes on that is.
You can do our third shot bucket drill, you juts have one bucket of balls with you and an empty bucket on the other side of the net. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a2ol-8X-sgo.html
Love your videos…the banjo music in this video makes it feel like you’re learning about Pickleball while on a log ride or train ride at a country theme amusement park.
This was super helpful. Thought maybe I was maybe a 2.75 or some such, but if what you're saying is true I'm probably more somewhere around 3.5. Anyway, off to send my kid off to college so I can focus on my dinks. My girl is only 3 y/o but I gotta focus on what's important in life lol.
I just started playing this year, and I learned a lot from this channel. Thanks for all the work! I entered a men's doubles tournament for 3.0 50+, self-rated. Only 1 guy in our entire bracket had tournament experience. Everyone wanted to bang and most had really good ground strokes. I was the only one who hit a drop and wanted to dink. I feel like I'm better at the rating skills relative to the field than I am at the basic banging game! Anyway, we played 6 games total against the best team, and they avoided me like the plague. (And my partner is a better banger than I.) We won the gold and now our UTPR is 3.647. Any idea what that means for our 2 point rating?
@@taurusgump really it’s about how good you want to get. I’ve been playing up for many tournaments but realized that by playing up I played less games that way. But gradual progression allows you to develop your game. The higher levels isn’t about how hard or fast you can hit it, it’s where and how you hit it.
Awesome entertaining video. Still no idea where I am... around 4.0, I assume. Regardless, surprised not to see SPEED as part of the rating system. I win a lot against people who easily hit as well as I do, but I get great jump on the ball and beat them with quickness. Lots of points won because I get to more balls. You'd think range and athletic ability would be essential to winning, so why not part of the rating system?
i started playing 2 months ago and I am entering a tournament in the end of January...I play at least 4x a week and think I am above average player now...I entered the tournament as a beginner and 3.0 or below...if I win, am I considered a sandbagger????....i am quite athletic and still play all kinds of competitive sports (ice hockey, softball, golf) at age 60, was I right in entering first ever tourney as a beginner/3.0 or less???...great videos and I am subscribed now
Did you say that Sheila in 1:17 mark can only hit that shot once every six months? That is funny. Great videos. Thank you. My kids and I play a game where we try to guess a player background. Tennis, table tennis, badminton, etc. So far volleyball players and handball players surprised us the most. Maybe a video idea? Different styles from different backgrounds and how to spot them?
Love the video...So how do I rate myself if I have some skills that are 4.0/4.5 level, some that are 3.0 and some that are 3.5...do I just take an average? Hehe
That is probably the correct answer. Be careful though because in a tourney your biggest weaknesses will be targeted if you are playing a smart opponent
I was told to play 3.5. I was a 4.5 tennis player for 30 years. I can rip the ball harder and with topspin than most of the players I play. I can also rip overheads for winners with no problems. I could be a better dinker. Am I in the wrong division?
Hard to tell. For 4.5 tennis player it is pretty normal to start at 3.5, people without this kind of background start at 2.5 - 3.0. Pickleball is not about ripping the ball. The faster you realize it, the sooner you go up.
@@ThePickleballPirates Thanks for the info. I realize it is more about placement and consistency. It is just nice to be able to put the ball away when needed.
I've never played, I've never practiced, but I want to begin and enter a tournament..........I played tennis in college though. What division do i enter for the tournament?
That’s a dangerous question. Generally speaking men are more aggressive and faster. But the kitchen is the equalizer, I’ve watched Anna Lee go toe to toe with pro men and beat them in dink battles and in power shots. So it depends?? This is keith btw
@@ThePickleballPirates I understand very dangerous. Just curious as I see male players I know rated 4.0 and I agree with those ratings but then I see female players rated 4.0 who I don’t consider near as good as the male 4.0 players.
@@jasonerpelding1180 ahh that’s the good old self rating model. Most people rate themselves higher because they are new to the game. That keeps you from sandbagging I guess.
@@ThePickleballPirates these players I am referring to are seasoned players and play in tournaments. Just curious really. No perfect system I guess. I haven’t played in a tournament yet so curious. I turn 50 next year so tempted to play in 50+ mens doubles one time so I can say was in a tournament.
@@jasonerpelding1180 tournaments are tons of fun, but just for stats I have been playing 5.0 for about 2 years. I’m still not ranked 5.0 on DUPR I’m 4.96 and on UTP I’m like 4.35 but I always play up. This is keith
They use what we call in education a rubric. It is HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE. As a nationally certified IPTPA instructor and a PhD in education, I prefer the completely OBJECTIVE system to discover your ranking. Sorry but a rubric is best suited to an 11th grade research paper, not a pickleball ranking.