That chain speed on the Stihl is the real winner here. That thing hauls ass. That being said, I'm happy with my EGO CS1800 which is miles better than my works Husqy electric chainsaw.
The Husqvarna 540i XP also can be had in a 16" bar and I'm surprised you didn't include it. The Stihl is a beast of a battery saw but it's very expensive and heavier than it needs to be. The Husky saw omits the totally unnecessary anti-vibration system (for a battery saw) and uses alloy only for the motor and bar mounting surfaces, and the sprocket cover, which keeps it closer to the much lighter all plastic-housed Stihl MSA 220, as opposed to the all alloy-cased MSA 300. When you include the heavy battery, the thing weights in close to a 70cc gas saw where it's totally outclassed. Regarding the Greeworks and Ego saws. I'm not knocking them. They probably offer a much better value for the DIY/homeowner.
I suppose it's technically a fair comparison because they are all 16 inch saws, but both Ego and Greenworks make bigger more powerful saws, considerably more powerful in Greenworks case, while the MSA300C is the biggest most powerful saw available from Stihl. Ego makes an 18 inch saw, the CS1800, which is marginally more powerful but would probably still not be up to the MSA300C, but Greenworks/Cramer make an 82v chainsaw that packs a 3.4kw motor (as opposed to the 2.0kw motor on the one in this comparison) that has a 25 m/s chain speed and uses an 18 or 20 inch bar. This comes as a kit from Greenworks with a charger and 4Ah battery for $599. I would love to see that in a comparison between the MSA300C vs the Greenworks 82CS34 My experience has been that the saw runs much better using a 5Ah Battery instead of the company recommended 4Ah battery. I think it is because of the added weight they stay away from it, but the performance is worth it for me. I did a 4 vs 5 amp battery comparison and the difference was significant. ru-vid.comvATPLiv42Eg?feature=share
The SC1800 which I have still can't touch the Stihl. Its all about that chain speed and EGO's just isn't as fast but you can hang off the EGO and it will keep cutting without stalling.
It's unfortunate that your Greenworks 60V 16-incher is the Gen 1 model with a 1.5-kW motor and an an 11 m/s chain speed. Greenworks makes a 60V 16-incher with 2.5 kW and 24 m/s! And I think there's a 60V 16-inch midrange, with 2 kW and 20 or 21 m/s. My Greenworks 40V Gen 2 16-inch chainsaw has 1.8 kW and 20 m/s. With a 4 or 5AH battery and a full case of oil, it weighs just 5.0 kg, making it the most powerful challenger to the Stihl 36V 220 (1.8 to 2.1 kW) in the 5-to-5.5-kW class.
Appreciate the demos. The Stihl MSA 300 is impressive, but that is an expensive kit. For very slightly more you can get an MSA 140 with battery and charger for the small stuff AND an MS 261 (with a run time only limited by the size of your fuel can) for the bigger stuff. Heck, add in the price of a second battery so you can keep working with minimal interruption, and you are very close to Stihl 500i territory. In my experience battery saws shine on the small stuff. I have a little 14" 40v battery Poulan Pro that is complete gold for pruning apple trees, limbing, and coppice work. I use a medium size 2 cycle on the larger stuff. It's the best of both worlds.
The problem with the Stihl is that you’re paying double the price for the 30m / per second chain speed where the faster speed exceeds any level of protection offered by even Class 3 safety clothing and safety boots. From a financial perspective and with an eye to operating a chainsaw within the perimeters of safety clothing, the EGO gives users a decent chain speed at a decent price and users can enjoy a degree of protection from safety clothing which you can’t get when using chain speeds of 30 m / per second
Greenworks USA is having a Presidents’ Day sale this weekend for 30% off. Seriously considering the Greenworks but I already have a EGO trimmer that I love. And what’s with the weight. All of these better than gas saws weigh more than my MS250.
Remember that amp-hours are not all equal measurements. The voltage is a factor when calculating how much power there is in a battery. A real comparison in watt-hours is: Greenworks: 240 Wh E-Go: 280 Wh Stihl: 316.8 Wh
The Echo 56V /18 inch is an amazing battery powered chainsaw. I tried the STIHL and Echo and it was like night and day. The Echo performed in my opinion much better than the STIHL at a much better price point.
Thanks for this i was about to buy a ego battery chainsaw but after seeing the battery nearly die after 2 cuts thats a no from me, the boxes and websites say 200cuts per charge lol... petrol it is
The Stihl is starting to change my mind on battery saws. I Stihl would like to see them being used in a spruce forest doing thinning or clearfell for a day, just to see how they stand up to the punishment of real work. Stihl think they need to sound like a screaming 2 stroke 😊
Youll get roughly 2 relatively bold 10" Sitka's felled, brashed and cut to extraction lengths on one ap500s battery charge ! If they where hairy or slightly taller you'd probably not even get two ! Just the nature of high Kw output battery saws ! Lithium isnt energy dense enough while being light enough to use. And for the money and weight id go buy a 400cm ! It's a lovely idea and I've got battery kit coming out my ears so by no means a sceptic, but for the higher kw output saws the the power is there, but lithium isn't up to the runtime. Whack a solar panel on your truck with a leisure battery / inverter maybe it's not so bad. Though for domestic arboricultural works, it's great just specify you'll need a mains power supply on the quote / contract. Only paying for chain oil then 😉. And can rock up early and not wake the whole street. The Stihl msa300 isn't actually the most powerful battery saw going Cramer do the 82cs34 which is a 3.4kw saw that'll take a 20" bar. Had one on a domestic ARB job recently felling conifer and with three 5ah batteries it worked flawlessly all day ! It also handles like a petrol saw, Ie runs down instead of an electric brake that stops the chain as soon as you let of the trigger. Making it much nicer to snedd with !
@@theautisticarborist6846 Honestly is the first time I hear about the brand Cramer, I do have the Stihl MSA300 and in regard to performance I am happy in did, just even best battery the AP500S in my opinion faild short for this saw.
I not know about spruce in my case is very much oak and an ocasional pine but I have no problem at all cutting this kind of wood all day with any one of the 3 models I have, MSA300, 161T and 220C, the only issue I find in particular with MSA300 using the 45cm bar and cutting tiker logs kind non stop, the battery tend to got hot and not charge back before it cools off. I think the saw itself is fine the battery technology needs to improve. I have don cutting oak in 50cm length for fierwood kind non stop and the saw itself is no problem but to cut all day as I have don I need no less than 3 AP500S batteries and if ticker logs I need 4 and the charger 500 for continuous battery recharging.
Should have done another test: Cutting big lumber while pressing down on the saws instead of just letting their weight do all of the downward pressure.
3 years ago I was go buy one but here in Portugal at that time the husky was about 200 Eur. more expenssive over the Stihl 220C, so I went for the Stihl, I have see some videos and the Stihl 220C like I have stand no chance against the Husky 540iXP, but is Interesting I have talk to a Husky owner that confirms it however he said his father-in-law have the Stihl 220C and while working the Stihl feels better. But now the test with be the top model of both brands Husky 540iXP vs Stihl MSA300. I have the MSA300 and by the videos I have see it is faster over the Husky, what seems to me is the Husky have more battery time.
I recon my ms500i is lighter than my battery msa 300 Stihl, with a heck of a lot more power. Battery power probably is the future, but in higher power applications such as full size chainsaws, its not there yet. Too heavy, expensive and nowhere near adequate runtime. Imagine how many batteries you would need in a professional forestry environment.
The MSA 300 is pretty good, but the problem is the price of batteries. For the price of a Saw + Battery + Charger I can buy a MS 500i (which i recently did) here in Norway. It's just not worth it atm.
I've got for work the husqvarna battery saw, snipper, hedger and blower, with the only good ones being the hedger and blower. The 340i saw stalls out on the most random shit. It "might" cut a log but then stalls on a 1in branch, the 520iLX snipper is gutless and chews through batteries. The 520iHD60 and 520iHD60X hedgers are ok, I only have the petrol Hunsqy and Stihl to compare against so far and last but not least the 120iB blower which is better than any hand held petrol blower but falls short of my LB7654E EGO blower
@@derrasenmaher9730 no, but given how disappointing everything else has been from husqy, I wont be buying anything else from them nor does the boss want to buy any more of their battery equipment. For the price of all their stuff, I expected better and got sub par at best and that had left a foul taste in my mouth
Trying to figure out which EGO chainsaw is the Best. I have the 765 blower w/5ah and 52" Z-turn w/(6) 12ah. The commercial chainsaw with backpack to use current 12ah battery, & looks to come w/12" bar upgradable to 16"max which I would immediately do, or thier 18" chainsaw?
The CS1800E is a good saw and you can get a dummy battery that the backpack battery plugs into. If you are on the ground a lot than the CS1800E is a good pick. The CSX3000 is a top handle arborist inspired saw which is handy while in trees for 1 handed use. It's also lighter for that very reason.
In regard to this fair presentation al I say is honestly and with out any kind of a favor or promocional intend. Only brand I personally know is Stihl because I do have one, and with out doubt is in did a joy powerful machine. According to the video the other two stand no chance. Never the less and I have written to Stihl, it in deed is kind like having a Mustang GT with an empety tank of gas. The AP500S battery is not up to saw, this saw deserve a longer lasting battery. I also have the Stihl MSA220C, 161T, GTA26 and the Trimmer 135, I wishe for the A500S battery with last as long as the AP200 last on the 161T.
@@MachineryNation You are absolutly right in the machines I have all Stihl, MSA300, 161T, 220C, GTA26 and Trimmer 135 with exception of the 161T all the others lacking battery time. I have all AP bateries from 200 t0 500 they still not up to this nice machines.
