Thank you for all the input you guys - looks like that’s a mostly resounding YES, scissors are essential!! lol I was in no way whatsoever saying the scissors are not great, I just personally use the knife blade for pretty much everything apart from nail cutting 🤷♂️
Well I'm going to disagree with you like everybody else who has commented. Although I admit that I initially discounted the scissors as being too small to be of any use I soon came around and I now find them indispensable. Size and weight constraints are not an issue with me and I'm happy to carry a Swiss champ when I'm wearing jeans. So, sorry, Swiss Army scissors are an absolute every day essential that I wouldn't be without.
Interesting thoughts. The scissors are definitely a compromise on the opening tools but for me they are so useful for safer cutting (eg when my kids are already wearing the thing I need to cut the label off from) that I do consider them essential, as is the knife. So a multi tool with both is my go-to. Unless a slim form factor is a key consideration and then I take something like my bantam Alox.
I suppose it all depends on what you’re doing and what a particular situation calls for. I’ve got dozens of SAKs and will select which ever I *think* I’m going to need on a particular day 👍
Scissors on pocket knives and such are sooooo dumb! almost useless. The "best" reasons I've ever heard are things you 'd still use a knife for. The only exception being clipping a hangnail!? hmmm. I'd rather bring a small nail clipper to actually do the job, because a pair of scissors on that will be no better than my teeth. And which nancies really need to trim their mustaches with a pocket knife scissors when camping?! But.... If you're at home, go get a real pair of scissors or use your clippers, etc! I think I should have left the "of scissors" off of the last sentence 😆
Ha ha ha! I love it when folks agree with my sentiment about the scissors - we are definitely in a minority judging by the majority of the comments on my video! I mean, the SAK scissors are really very good but I still maintain they’re not ESSENTIAL!! Whereas a knife blade IS essential!
Had a Spartan, given to me by my dad (RIP), living in my pocket from the time I was a kid to the time I sadly lost it in my forties. Went to get another one, but the closest thing the local shop had to the Spartan was a Compact. Thought I'd give it a try, and it was a REVELATION! The pen is incredibly useful, but the scissors! THE SCISSORS! I even really like the combo tool! Feels more natural to cut open a can “towards me” vs “away from me”. Even though I eventually found the lost Spartan, it now lives in my safe box, and the Compact will live in my pockets until someone comes up with an even better alternative (good luck with that).
The Compact is a good choice for general urban edc for sure, and the scissors are really excellent… I just find myself not needing them anywhere near as often as other folks say they do 🤷♂️ Each to their own I guess 🙂
Absolutely! That's why Victorinox makes such a wide variety of models! I'm also a huge Cadet fan, and that's what I carry when maximum thinness is required. Cheers, and thanks for the awesome content!😊
That's a interesting story . I think the opposite? I have a compact which lives in the bottom of a drawer i never use . Hate the combo tool . I dont use the scissors much rarely away from the home so only take a scissors equipped SAK if i know i need a scissors? My day to day is a Recruit, Tourist or Spartan. If you are comfortable with small blades then the small blade covers most jobs . As for the can opner working with you rather than against you , absolutely? So i did a mod you might be interested in which deals with that ? Grind off the can opner bit and slightly reshape the tip this gives you a much more useful small flat head ,very good Phillips and an improved can opner , demo video . : victorinox explorer, huntsman, farmer, climber screwdriver can opener mod. And :victorinox Spartan All Blue. And : victorinox Angler Black plus scales and modification.
I agree, they (big) scissors often are not needed, but I think your best point is actually the criticism of the Compact. 1 - To me the Compact is overpriced. 2 - I find the 58mm scissors far more useful. 3 - the pen function of the 58mm is far more practical and ergonomical with the combo tool out than 91mm hack to hold the pen. 4 - The 58mm Combo tool is far better then the 91mm Combo tool. 5 - I also agree that the 91mm Combo tool is less useful than the opening layer tools of normal Vic SAKs. I needed quite a long time to appreciate and experience the cap lifter and can opener as very practical and useful tools, but not necessarily as features that the name designation suggests. I personally have used the Bantam Alox as main blade in combination with a Minichamp. The Bantam Alox is amazingly thin and lightweight. But.. I rarely used the Combo tool and I missed the dedicated tools of the opening layer. You are right, the Cadet is the more practical tool compared to the Compact! Currently I went a step further: the Minichamp became my main SAK. Only occasionally do I couple it with a 91mm Ranger or Handyman. I found that the Minichamop is more than good enough for my urban EDC kit coupled with screwdriver tools as well as a Knipex XS.
Great and interesting comments - thank you for sharing 👌👌 Personally I’m not a big fan of the minichamp - too many redundant tools in my experience 🤷♂️ Different strokes for different folks though isn’t it. Big fan of the Knipex XS though: absolutely brilliant.
Are scissors essential? I’d say yes to solve those little day to day annoyances - fingernails, nose and moustache hairs. I carry an alox classic sd on my keys, it’s so tiny and light it’s a no brainer for me. Scissors on a 91mm SAK however I don’t think are essential at all, I find the smaller 58mm much for useful and convenient. I don’t worry about having the classic on my keys when entering a pub for example. Hopefully most bouncers, security etc would have the sense to see it’s not a weapon haha!
I quite agree about entering pubs and things with a 58mm vs something larger - feels more and more like carrying a SAK of any kind is becoming less and less acceptable (nanny state, etc., etc.). Also agree about finding the smaller 58mm scissors better for nail and rogue hair trimming 👍
Absolutely! The SAK scissors is fantastic for sure but do we need it in a every dad to day carry tool ? I generally have plenty SAK with scissors around the house, it's not needed in your pocket everyday. My go to is the 84mm Recruit or 84mmTourist if i know I'm going to be needing a scissors then I'll take something else. But the small blade can double up as a scissors nearly all the time ? Leaving me with a decent flat head screwdriver 2 blades and a small flat head (with small mod the can opner ground off giving a better flat head with reach , and good Phillips and improved can opner ) . I rarely need a scissors in day to day use outwith the home .
Finally found someone else who agrees with me! lol Yeah, agree with all you said. I’ve found myself carrying the 84mm Sportsman or cadet recently when out and about and honestly can’t say I’ve ever had a situation where I felt I desperately needed the scissors 🤷♂️ Depends what your doing I suppose, as you say, but it’s fine without the scissors! 🙂
Can't agree with you. Long,long time ago I thought as you think. However, I find the scissors being used more and more and couldn't think of having a SAK model that does not have scissors
That’s fair enough, & this does easily appear to be the popular opinion! The scissors ARE great, I just don’t use them anywhere near as much as the main blade 🤷♂️
Yep, that was the general consensus from most comments on this video. I DO really like the scissors but still maintain that whilst they’re definitely really good to have they’re not ESSENTIAL in a pocket knife. An unpopular opinion, I know 🤷♂️
Yeah that’s what most folks have said… I mean, the scissors ARE great, just not AS used or useful as a blade imho. Great to have them if you’ve got them though ✌️
0:45 " .... best in my opinion ..." Absolutely! No other scissors comes even close! As to your title question - yet again, ABSOLUTELY! I would not even consider buying any SAK that doesn't have a scissors! Simple question to you, if you considering not having one - What would you have instead that has the same utilisation? Sorry, there isn't one (that is not there already!). My biggest sadness is the announcement by Victorinox CEO that they are actually considering making SAKs WITHOUT the knife blade. This is the response to the world woke culture that is contaminating society! It's disgusting! How can one call it a Swiss Army KNIFE if it has no knife?
The scissors ARE really good, just not an absolute essential on a SAK for me personally ✌️ I’ve just had a look and I think it’s really sad that Victorinox are thinking of heading this way… I suppose for air travel or concert venues it might be useful at times, but it’s pathetic that the option to carry a small pocket knife is slowly being taken away from us isn’t it. One of mankind’s oldest and most useful tools!!! When you need to cut something then you need a blade: nothing else will do that job! Wanting to carry one for small tasks doesn’t make us all killers does it 😩
@@accoutrements4469 All part of the "Nanny State" mentality that is taking over society, and creating a generation of weaklings. The authorities are taking away stuff from solid citizens, and doing nothing about the thugs and criminals doing the violence.
Indeed you don’t out of choice but it IS most definitely possible with a sharp Vic blade: I’d obviously rather use scissors, though, for that 100% of the time given the choice 👍
This missis the point ? Do you need a scissors? Well if you only have 1 SAK then maybe you do need a SAK with scissors? Only most of us have several many of them come equipped with scissors along with scissors of various sizes around the house . This is mostly about carrying in pocket, do we need a scissors day to day out and about on the off-chance we need to cut our nails? We need a small SAK with a blade a screw driver in my case a 2nd small blade that covers most scissors jobs , and a small flat /Phillips. Thats it . Sure if i need a scissors for a specific job then sure I'll take my Huntsman, Explorer, Swiss Champ or if it's a big scissors job a big proper kitchen scissors? Isn't that the point ?
Good to be getting a few comments backing up my view that scissors are not essential for edc! 👍 Sure, they can be nice to have but they’re not ESSENTIAL in an edc knife: it’s the blade which is the essential tool - nothing else serves the purposes of a blade, it’s easily my most used tool on any SAK. 👍✌️
@@accoutrements4469 But if you carry a SAK you ALWAYS have a blade anyway, it's not either or, it's whether the scissors are a worthwhile addition. Personally I'd choose scissors before corkscrew, awl, chisel, fish scaler, magnifying glass, parcel hook and quite a few other examples of Victorinox's silliness.
I think for edc scissors tasks the classic’s 58 mm performs better, specially for detailed cutting needs. So I like to pair any classic with a 2 layers at most 91 mm or mostly 84mm, I find that they really disappear in the pocket, specially combining the classic with the bantam or recruit/cadet. I do have the companion, which I find has the ideal toolset for urban edc, but mostly lives in my shelf since is 3 layers, is limited edition and mostly because it was a gift, so I carry it in special events.
"My" solution is a 58 mm model woth scissors on the keychain. Comes in handy for personal care and when a blade is not "socially acceptable". If bigger scissors are needed there are usually some to grab, in the office for example. A larger Victorinox for all other tasks in the backpack/pocket. Lately a Spartan Wood.
The scissors are my least used tool on any SAK. I typically carry a Sportsman, Tourist, or Spartan on a suspension clip in my pocket along with an alox Minichamp on my keyring. The rare times I need scissors, the Minichamp has me covered.
Yeah most of us end up with more than we need don’t we! lol My edcs recently have always been a Cadet or Sportsman for the most part, unless I really think I might need other tools (eg I like to take a SAK with a saw into the woods, etc).
Can/bottle opener for a traditional "toolchest" SAK, package opener/thicker combo tool for condensed 91mm EDC models, and traditional combo tool with more tool options in the 84mm line, really leaning into the smaller size.
@@accoutrements4469It’s very effective, and along with the scissors, there are social/work situations where I prefer having an option with a non-knife blade appearance to cut something. Losing the scissors on the Compact also means losing the nail file on the hook, and those are essential items for me.
Yes, I see what you’re saying about certain situations… I’ve always felt a SAK doesn’t raise eyebrows the way pulling out something more aggressive looking does… but yes there have been times when even producing a little red SAK seems to have shocked some people (tsk!). I must try one of the knives with the package opener when I get the chance 👍✌️
The scissors on the 58mm Rambler is always on me. Or, the scissors on the 91mm Ranger has come in so handy, which is usually in my bum bag and occasionally pocket carry it. In the middle, I have the Alox Bantam. I really do need the scissors.
My Vic has no scissors, so I can't contribute much. However on watching very many videos on here I had come to the conclusion my EDC Vic ought to have one. I'm happy to let the serendipity of the flea market decide as I wait for Christmas or my next birthday to request a model of my choice.
I use the scissors as much (or maybe more?), than the blade. Cutting tape, cleanly opening packaging, trimming nails, loose thread, I could go on and on…
I can't honestly say the scissors are a daily go-to. And I probably don't have the patients to use them for anything other then the most tiny of cutting tasks.
Scissors absolutely essential, nails rare “emergency, hangnail” but loose threads etc, I always have a pair on me, classic sd on keychain, most useful edc tool
Fair comments, & this does easily appear to be the most popular opinion! The scissors ARE great, I just don’t use them anywhere near as much as the main blade 🤷♂️
I use the scissors quite often, and one of the things where I really prefer scissors over a blade is first aid / booboo tasks. It is really annoying to cut a bandaid or anything fabric for that matter. That's the reason I always have some scissors on me, but on the other hand they are as small as possible. Either a swisscard in my pocket or a alox classic on my keys
I used to carry the sportsman or the spartan for a couple years before getting a vic with scissors. While the scissors are handy for cutting threads and such I never felt thet I NEEDED a pair on me. So nowdays in my pocket I have the cadet or if I have a bag on me I have an EDC pouch with either a compact or the companion. I have a rambler on my keys so if I really do need scissors I'll have the rambler to go to.
I LOVE the Sportsman, definitely one of my favourites! If I have my car keys with me an always have an alox classic on there (so scissors), but yeah, it’s the blade that gets used for everything for me personally, apart from nail cutting.
Yes I heard this… could be useful for air travel or concert venues, etc (although I suspect they’d still possibly get confiscated by security staff 🤷♂️), I just hope this isn’t they way Victorinox are going to start heading… a blade is one on mankind’s oldest and most useful tools and it just makes me a bit wary that ‘the nanny state’ is creeping in here… see what happens in the coming years I suppose ✌️
Agree, I use the 58mm SAK scissors mainly for nails and cutting to size those plasters that start out the size of a bank card. However, if you need a k-nife that will be a precise replacement for the bigger scissor 's duties, then a pointy Wharncliffe is superb.
