Do You Recognize This Movie Matte Painting?

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Adam beholds three massive matte paintings from iconic films: detailed hand-painted scenes that represent the pinnacle of this visual effects technique. They're immediately recognizable for fans of these genre movies, and getting up close to the paintings reveals nuanced details that show how matte paintings work when composited with live action scenes.
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@tested Год назад

Check out this prop and others from the upcoming EMLA: Los Angeles 2023 auction at propstoreauction.com/auctions/info/id/347

@andrewprice1189 Год назад

They have the original Norris spider head, if you have a spare 300K!

@21stcenturyscots 4 месяца назад

MMMMHH...., I THINK THE FIRST MATTE PAINTING IS FROM BATMAN.

@ethansloan Год назад

A few years ago, an indie movie called Under The Silver Lake came out. The director talked about how he wanted to use old school, paint-on-glass matte paintings for a lot of the backgrounds, but they couldn't find anyone who knew how to do it. It's been literal decades since this was a marketable skill, so all of the artists are retired, and many have passed on. This is truly a lost art.

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

As a production insert that can fit into a normal production time-table under a certain budget, certainly. But just as with anything, a properly motivated film company working with a properly motivated artist and lighting/camera crew, with enough time could figure it out. It just would not be competitive with digital in speed, cost or workflow... and possibly wouldn't hold up to 4K digital projection.

@ElDerpy Год назад

@@patreekotime4578 it would probably hold up better than 4k as you can reshoot a matte painting if its intact, but resizing a digital painting to be larger (for example) is still a shitshow even with ai

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Год назад

The Green Knight used Matte paintings.

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

@@ElDerpy Well generally speaking, even old film stock often has more detail than the early digital effects. One of the reasons Ill never forgive Lucas for the digital sins he committed against his own films.

@mematron Год назад

If you are a painter then you can paint on glass. It's not a lost art. It's just art. I paint on everything. No big deal.

@c6s6s6 Год назад

PLEASE do more videos on traditional matte painting! Absolutely fantastic!!!

@86fifty Год назад

Ya know, in all these Prop Store videos, I've never felt the actual desire to OWN any of these pieces. Huge and unwieldy and difficult to store, were the only things that ever came to mind when I would see such things as original costumes, vehicles, even shelf-size props. But a background matte painting... now THAT has me interested!

@matthewcoleman8267 Год назад

When I found out the interior of the Death Star in Episode 4 were matte paintings I was amazed (where the stormtroopers are all lined up to greet Darth).

@michaelminch5490 Год назад

I would LOVE to get my hands on a Blade Runner matte. Like maybe outside Deckard's apartment when he's out on that patio.

@starbrand3726 Год назад

The three original Star Wars movies Episodes IV, V, VI actually used hundreds of matte paintings. Most were completely invisible.

@TK-421_66 Год назад

Every time Adam does a series of these with Prop Store I wish there were twice as many videos.

@rsalbreiter Год назад

I wish I could go with lol

@seanmccarthy7591 Год назад

Agreed!

@marcusdamberger Год назад

Or twice as long!

@recurvestickerdragon Год назад

when adam mentioned "not TOO much detail" it really made me think of miniatures painting, as well. we do all kinds of odd non-photographic shading and accentuation so it reads at a distance, even if it looks cartoonish under a magnifying glass

@bfunkhouser Год назад

Suggestion for these prop videos: it would be cool/useful to show still frames or very short clips from the movies to show the props in context. Especially when Brandon says they have screen matched it.

@Philocyb1n Год назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KiFcJAK9QbM.html there's the independence day scene

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

Copyright and Licensing. He doesnt have permission to show that footage and the content of these videos doesnt IMO meet the criteria of fair use. The prop store likely has the right to show those scenes in their catalog, but this channel doesn't.

@pandalover900 Год назад

@@patreekotime4578 a clip perhaps may not fall into fair use, but most certainly a still of the frame would since it's used for comparison and one could argue education and archival as in the use in these (also arguably advertising) videos.

@skepticalbadger Год назад

@@pandalover900 Again, the auction house can do this, Tested can't.

@WanderingGoff Год назад

I’m sure it would be considered fair use under the law, but that doesn’t stop RU-vid’s bots from flagging and demonetizing it.

@jamesc5801 Год назад

I would 1000% collect movie matte paintings if I could afford them. That independence day one was incredible

@zwells4509 Год назад

I've always viewed my paintings as "Don't paint the object, paint the light on the object" this allows for the depth and sense of detail.

@muggogoop Год назад

Considering that's all anyone sees anyway, the light hitting the object rather than the object itself, your technique has a beautiful sense of logic to it.

@zwenkwiel816 Год назад

yeah my brain doesn't work like that, I can draw lines and fill them in. I'm basically MS paint when it comes to art XD

@davydatwood3158 Год назад

I love how Brandon is able to both get super-excited-geeky with Adam and yet still remember his job is to encourage us all to go bid on stuff at the auction.

@josray2557 Год назад

As an artist I've been kinda going down the rabbit hole of using less detail. Then seeing something like this even furthers this journey. Broad strokes seem to have a lot more payoff than meticulous details.

@ericvicaria8648 Год назад

When I first started doing photography I realized the value of a shallow depth of focus. Conserving sharpness to where you want to direct the viewer's eyes can be much more powerful than a fully sharp image.

@MrBrax Год назад

@@ericvicaria8648 I did this on my most recent vacation trip and the photos look so much more interesting with f1.8-f3

@JohnnyWednesday Год назад

Same goes for music - you'll write your best music when you take notes away - it forces you to make something of the song as a whole rather than relying on a single catchy hook.

@josray2557 Год назад

@@JohnnyWednesday hm... that makes a lot of sense.

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

Yeah I think alot of the economy here is really in service of the photography. Remember that all of these guys had an intimate knowledge of how much detail would be captured by the film stock, but also an understanding of where the focal point would be in the shot, as well as how much camera movement would be happening. The batcave especially shows bokeh around all of the light sources to simulate being slightly out-of-focus while the batmobile was probably in sharp focus. Matte paintings done to composite long depth of field shots (like exterior daylight scenes) typically have more detail than these. As much as people hate the Ewok movies today, there was a television special about the making of The Battle for Endor and one scene shows how they used a glass matte composite to film the actors running up a hill towards a castle. Really stunning work.

@914Rocky Год назад

I’ve never heard of matte paintings and never knew they were/are used in movies. I’m blown away.

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

If you watch any science fiction film with a decent budget from the 1990s and earlier, you are seeing a matte painting somewhere. They were also used commonly in period films like Gone with the Wind, Cleopatra, etc. Any time it was too expensive or time consuming to build a set, or a landscape just didnt exist, they used matte paintings. There are some cases where model minatures are used instead of matte paintings for backgrounds, it just depends on the demands of the shot. But youve probably seen many matte paintings over the years and had no idea thats what you were seeing. Heck, Disney even pioneered methods of using large matte paintings for backgrounds and panning and zooming the camera across them to create depth and motion through animated landscapes.

@914Rocky Год назад

@@patreekotime4578 I’m totally going to pay close attention going forward.

@willmfrank Год назад

Oh, Rocky...DO take a deep dive down the matte painting rabbit hole. You are in for a cinematic adventure! There are quite a few videos about matte painting right here on RU-vid; there's even an entire channel devoted to the work of legendary matte painter Albert Whitlock. Enjoy!

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

@@914Rocky When you see an older film and theres like an aerial shot thats either totally still or there is a little push zoom but otherwise no motion, thats generally a matte painting. Used often as an establishing shot for a location, to say: here is where the action is taking place. Those are the easiest to spot. But there are many many classic films that are shot entirely on sound stages with elaborate sets and backdrop paintings, and even rear-projection used to give the illusion of sweeping landscapes, dynamic cities, or elaborate architecture. Its really wild when you start thinking about it.

@Charlz1980tv 4 месяца назад

Not only sf films. A very famous scene involving matte painting, is in the Ice Rink ( Charlie Chaplin), where he is seemingly skating around an open void/staircase.

@rivetecks Год назад

This painting was created at Matte World Digital, painted by Christopher Evan’s. The VFX supervisor was Craig Barron. I was the digital compositor on this shot. this was the only one of three matte paintings we did for Independence Day that was used in the film. If you watch the film you’ll notice the model elements of the infiltrator alien ship and the gantry. also the color of the whole shot is timed very differently than the actual painting. there is an interesting story there about our contribution to the film but i’ll save that for another time.

@ThatBonsaipanda Год назад

Fascinating! Do you remember what resolution was used for the composition/render (sorry, I'm a complete nerd when it comes to early digital VFX)? :D

@noxlupi1 Год назад

The matte painters most important skill to master is lighting, which leads to shape and value as well. Detail is rarely needed, cause mostly the background is out of the focus field.

@petermgruhn Год назад

I also think it's because "movies aren't really that great". People think "well it's a movie of real life so the painting has to look like real life." No, it only has to look as good as a movie.

@noxlupi1 Год назад

@@petermgruhn yeah, kind of.. I wouldn't technically put it like that, but it easy to cheat the brain. Sometime less is more, just like a book can give you a wilder "visual" experience, because it is up to your imagination.

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

@@petermgruhn Film stock isn't perfect. Shots are out of focus, part of a fast cut, or subject to camera movement, all of which reduces the detail required.

@FranciscoSilva-bv9qq Год назад

I'm not gonna lie I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the ID4 mothership was a matte painting. I pulled up the scene for reference and it looks like they also added some minatures in the foreground to sell the effect. This whole time I thought it was a CG background.

@Lethgar_Smith Год назад

Obi-Wan shutting off the tractor beam, the over head shot of the Millennium Falcon in the Death Star hanger and the establishing shot of the X-wings in the Yavin temple hanger, I believe were all in-camera composites.

@ruuman Год назад

Man I would love a matt painting in my house!

@jsmith5343 Год назад

Favorite matte painting, Mary Poppins with Julie Andrew's. When they are on the rooftops looking over London when the sun is going down. Breath taking.

@MetzMan Год назад

Just looked up the Independence Day shot where this specific piece was used and it's a 5 second shot. You can see a lot of extra elements were added, with the light blue stripes being blocked by some other horizontal structures. But u can definitely see that it's this piece that was used.

@RedStarRogue 4 месяца назад

Damn 1996 would have been at the absolute tail end of the oil matte painting era. Titanic has one shot of the Carpathia matte near the end that was probably the last one.

@RM_VFX Год назад

My favorite glass painting is over at ILM, the painting overlooking the city from the hill that ET walks up to Elliot's house in the intro, also backlit with fiber optics. I also happened to visit the actual location of that neighborhood, the street overlooking the real homes, hiked up the hill where "Keys" looks down from. Stevenson Ranch if I remember correctly. Also not far from Marty McFly's 1985 neighborhood.

@njones420 Год назад

The first time I became aware of matte paintings was watching Labyrinth as a kid, I was blown away when I realised you could just barely see the join from the physical set to the corridors running off into the distance. I'd still take it over CGI anyday, and blends so much nicer.

@trickyricky2903 Год назад

Well, I'm going to have to watch THAT again! Now, where did I put my tight leggins and eye shadow...

@JZStudiosonline Год назад

Could've watched any old movie. Wizard of Oz had a pretty noticeable one in the ending shot where they walk straight into a painted wall. Or maybe that was the beginning... either way.

@njones420 Год назад

@@JZStudiosonline it's more that I watched Labryinth about 100 times as when it came out on VHS when I was 7 :)

@ghoulchan7525 3 месяца назад

i remember playing a game where i could spot that join from the 3d environment model and where it was a skybox or background. it was funny to me as a kid.

@usaturnuranus Год назад

As one of the second generation of a now third generation family of artists, I just wanted to mention that in addition to convincingly representing depth by depicting the proper level of detail at every scale, along with the fine precision and highlights required in the foreground, one of the most challenging aspects of matte painting is perfectly matching the color palette to the gamma of the film stock once it has been processed. Granted, in the digital era this is much much easier but the old school artists had to get it right by skill alone. That really blows my mind, it's very hard to pull off when the end product will be back illuminated and projected onto a giant screen in the end. I know I couldn't do it like these folks did without a hell of a lot of practice, trial, and error.

@eclectic_gamer Год назад

I've heard a lot of talk about matte paintings over the years but never seen one before and I have often wondered what they look like, I thought they were always done on glass, so it's great to finally see some. The independence day one is cool you can see the registration marks in the corners they used for lining up the separate composite layers, awesome.

@garyv2498 Год назад

A Matte Painting from one of my favorite movies would be so cool to hang on the wall. Please do more of these.

@HarryNicNicholas Год назад

i was telling my son just yesterday that i spent quite a lot of time at shepperton film studios on a variety of projects - i've even got to hang out on thomas the tank engine film set - but what always impressed me was the corridor with glass paintings leaning against the wall, the only one i know from a film was from "princess caribou" (i think, this is a long time ago) of ships on the thames (or some such river), but also the interior of a submarine, and then a variety of pictures of all kinds, all very realistic, but just left leaning against the wall in a corridor. art eh, funny old thing.

@entertainingandfun2719 Год назад

Please do more of these I love matte paintings so much. There’s so many relics out their too. You could make a whole series.

@bottlecap7503 Год назад

One of my personal favorites is some of the work H.R. Geiger directed for Alien, especially the big chamber they found the eggs in

@richb313 Год назад

Thanks Adam this is a subject that needs more attention.

@Vortimar Год назад

I love this channel so much, adam truly appreciates lost artforms that need to come back

@allanalogmusicat78rpm Год назад

To me, the two cliffs on the sides just do not work. It gives off Escher vibes, of angles that don't quite line up. The impossibly steep and long, railless staircase, does not help.

@toskvision Год назад

I used to be obsessed with matte painting as a kid. So great to see these. Thx Adam.

@philiptenenzaph6128 Год назад

I would LOVE to see you working with Corridor comparing matte paintings to digital backgrounds

@lennynero635 Год назад

That‘s actually a pretty cool idea. Would like to see such an episode. I‘ve been fascinated with special effects since I was a child (even bought a behind the scenes book back in the early 90s which to this day I read from time to time).

@PaulStevensonPinball Год назад

Please please please cover Lot #72 - the custom made 65mm VFX tri-stack matte camera that is in this auction. It is an amazing bit of tech, used on Blade Runner, Close Encounters, Ghostbusters, 2010, Batman Returns, and many more. I've seen the listing an some articles on it, but I find it confusing how this camera actually operates. Somehow it has extra magazine reels to film a matte painting with another piece of film next to the negative. It looks amazing and boggles my mind. I can almost grasp the concept of a bi-stack, but a tri-stack seems like it could do 2 matte paintings or some other wizardry. I think this content would be well suited to this audience.

@lisdexia1 Год назад

If anyone is interested I would suggest researching. Harrison Ellenshaw. He was one of Disney's key background painters and did a lot of work for Star wars. I own several of his originals and they are absolutely beautiful.

@halfvader8015 Год назад

And his father, Peter, whose footsteps he followed in, working on many Disney classics and training Harrison in the craft/art. Other matte painting greats are Chris Evans (different Chris Evans as they said) and Michael Pangrazio. Both of whom also worked at Matte World/Matte World Digital, and on the Star Wars and Indy films!

@lisdexia1 Год назад

@@halfvader8015 Correct, I find the whole genre underappreciated.

@Kimlur Год назад

Wow, amazing to see!

@calvingreene90 Год назад

The side pointing antennas remind me of WWII carriers during flight operations.

@tentacle_love Год назад

I like how the lights flickered in a believable pattern as you struggled to try and make it as consistent and solid as possible. Hard to replicate that on a digital screen.

@starfleetau Год назад

The ID4 section was composited on as well, a lot in the end it seems, you can find it in the shot of Jeff and Will as they approach to be docked, it has a bunch of cranes composited over the top of it and a section down the lower right side has been matted see through in the final shot.

@dBrakke 6 месяцев назад

I was lucky enough to pick up the Independence Day matte painting from this auction. It’s a beautiful piece, and looks great hanging on the wall! Still need to try and set up something to show off the awesome fiber optic lighting from the back, though.

@Joe___R Год назад

I can't believe that Adam hasn't ever rewatched Independents Day. I could understand him not rewatching its terrible sequel but the original is a classic.

@miscalotastuff733 Год назад

Especially that one part. The very best part of the movie.

@TheGreatAtario Год назад

For those wanting to check this out in the movie, it's at around 2h6m6s, and there is indeed quite a lot composited in front of it

@purplemicrodot58 Год назад

Adam and his magic flashlight.

@seonor Год назад

The new Barbie movie has actual physical matte paintings which they show off in their behind the scenes video of the set. So they are still used even in movies you wouldn't expect to use them.

@RM_VFX Год назад

I've worked right next to some of the most iconic movie props of all time, and watched them later auctioned on Prop Store. I wish I could get a hold of some of them, but I also have a house to pay for...in the Bay Area 😂

@michaelminch5490 Год назад

"Literally smoke and mirrors." Well played, Adam. Well played. I giggled.

@somarriba333 Год назад

I LOVE matte paintings. Some how they look more real than any CG paiting.

@cacophonic7 Год назад

Lighting up the fiber optics on the Independence Day matte painting just made my day! How cool!

@neilperry2224 Год назад

Blimey Adam, you pulling on the trench painting where youve got your left hand!!!!! I was waiting for a cracking sound as you pulled on the masonite .

@krono5el Год назад

the Movie Magic episodes of matte paintings was always one of my faves, this is super cool :D

@DrVenture45 Год назад

This was great! I was a fan of both Joe Johnston (storyboards) and Nilo Rodis-Jamero (visual effects art director) when they worked on The Empire Strikes Back. And of course Ralph McQuarrie's matte paintings and concept art on Episodes IV, V and VI.

@halfvader8015 Год назад

Absolutely! And to give Johnston his proper due (which is pretty much never done), he solidified the 'look' of Star Wars way beyond just storyboards and is just as responsible if not moreso than the other great, McQuarrie! And did character and ship designs too. Most people don't know he's the same guy that directed all those movies or his designs for Iron Giant, either! Just being a big fan here because I'm happy you mentioned him!

@writerpatrick Год назад

With digital backgrounds taking over, matte paintings are going to get quite collectible.

@rickytoddbotelho9555 Год назад

Amazing piece. This is one for the collection ❤😂🍿👁️

@LikeTheBuffalo Год назад

I guess I get to keep my Millenial Card cuz I was able to ID that painting from the thumbnail. The fiber optic detailing blows my mind. I would absolutely love to have that in my home.

@ralph1628 Год назад

One of my favorite matte paintings is the film Logan's Run, The Lincon Memorial (All of the D.C. matte paintings.)

@martymischke1124 Год назад

If you want to see the Batman Returns matte in the movie it’s about 1 hour 33 minutes in. For Independence Day it’s 1 hour 58 minutes.

@cesjr Год назад

1:33:48 is the timestamp for the Batman Returns matte painting.

@petermot645 Год назад

Treasures from Hollywood, thanks for a great video.

@StevenRLegge Год назад

Matte painters understood that any fine detail work would get lost in the grain of the film used to photograph their paintings. The masters knew exactly what they could leave out but still give the impression of detail.

@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r Год назад

One of the craziest things about matte paintings is how briefly they are actually seen on screen. For instance, the one from Independence Day was only on screen for about 3 seconds in just one single shot of the movie. And that's pretty typical for a matte painting, because the more time the audience can look at it, the more likely the illusion will be broken.

@jharbo Год назад

That ID4 one also has a lot more layers added on in the final shot. I just watched it, it is right before the ship docks.

@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r Год назад

@@jharbo Yup.

@TraitorVek Год назад

Absolutely Brilliant !

@VoorDeFilm Год назад

Looks amazing!

@LordOfJazz Год назад

My jaw dropped when Adam held his torch to the fibreoptics. What an absolutely beautiful sight!

@steverogers8163 Год назад

neat. Yeah the ID4 they have the landing dock/arm thing composited in front of the opening. Basically where there are those blue lines there is a landing arm in front of it.

@chazzyb8660 Год назад

Awesome. I'm getting the envy.

@kyt8863 Год назад

Craig Barron did a really great book a few years back called "The Invisible Art: The Legends of Movie Matte Painting" highly recommend it to any fan of classic matte painting

@antivanti Год назад

That bat cave is just a great painting and works perfect as wall hung painting. The artist really was able to catch the light

@ThornOfSociety Год назад

Possibly my favourite Matte Painting trick was in Superman The Movie from 1978 in the Helicopter rescue scene.

@TheMsLourdes Год назад

I have never realized that what I was looking at with the first one, was a matte painting... amazing.

@EyesOfByes Год назад

11:48 That's the coolest nostalgia thing I've seen in my life!

@nicolevanderpool1252 Год назад

Amazing 🤩 The painting nerd approves and toasts for more 👩🏻‍🎨

@mr.e1944 Год назад

Another cool video!

@ElDerpy Год назад

wanna see more matte paintings!

@thetwopointslow Год назад

Loving that Seiko SKX009, Adam ⏱️

@peterzerfass4609 Год назад

Man, that death star trench painting. Can you think of a more iconic moment in movie history? I mean, the whole movie was amazing but that run was, without a doubt, the thing that blew everyone away back in the day (no pun intended). Can you image having that on your wall? One can only dream.

@Daehawk Год назад

Matte paintings for movies have fascinated me for many many years. They still fool me. My brain has a hard time separating the painting from the action shot. They are amazing.

@hongo3870 Год назад

My favorites are from A New Hope

@KerriGilpin Год назад

My first 3D animation class in 1997 was so low tech compared to what we have now, it’s barely recognizable! Matte paintings are so interesting and timeless!

@EddieVanAidan Год назад

I always remember noticing the hanger in Aliens was a painting and being amazed! The most relatable of practical effects I think

@wm1pyro Год назад

I hope Adam buys the trench painting, i cant imagine anyone else appreciating it more

@chaysefox Год назад

Many years ago, there was a series on the Discovery Channel called "Movie Magic" I find myself rived to it when it comes on, and they often go into various matte paintings, along with things like miniatures, and all sorts of old school stuff just on the cusp of CGI projects like Jurassic Park.

@DB-rg2dk Год назад

My first thought on that third painting was from TRON 1984. When the light cycle broke thru the game arena.

@MrMann0123 Год назад

Adam: loads of info and excitement about thr process Other guy: buy my thing

@SaturnCanuck Год назад

OMG. That was epic. Joe Johnston at ILM at that time did EVERYTHING! How many of the iconic ships did he design?

@TheStockwell Год назад

Some of the most deliberately artistic matte paintings were created for "Black Narcissis" (1947).

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

The Wizard of Oz had some pretty wild ones too. Very stylized.

@nutherefurlong Год назад

Would like if these upscaling projects for older movies would somehow take into account how that blurred effect matte paintings had was meant to match the general resolution of the image. Sometimes it still works, like McQuarrie's planets in Star Wars still look pretty good, at least at the resolutions I've seen, but it comes across now as a lot more obvious, especially when composited. Always loved matte paintings, so glad they're getting a highlight here.

@trickyricky2903 Год назад

I had NO idea!!

@CarboniteDreamer Год назад

I'd love to see a matte painting of the Tron universe or that matte painting of the Deathstar where all the stormtroopers where painted on.

@Cahos_Rahne_Veloza Год назад

That Video Thumbnail absolutely drew my attention to that very Handsome and Talented man on the far right 😘❤

@SiliconRiot Год назад

Film grain also adds more detail and they are effectively reduced in size when on screen to most of the audience so it tightens up the image.

@andrewfischer8126 Год назад

hey adam could you do an up to date complete tour of your cave. i think we all would love too see it :)

@richbuilds_com Год назад

Separate to the art of film making, these matt paintings are art all unto themselves

@jokermebad31 Год назад

If I remember correctly that matte painting from Batman Returns was was after when Bruce was was repairing the Batmobile after when it was launched into the Gotham after the Penguin sabotaged the Batmobile and Batman had to get away from the police and couldn't get down an all after the the Penguin's incident and it transformed into the Batmissle speeding away in downtown Gotham. That matte painting was used in the death star on Star Wars episode 4 a New Hope

@d1ckyj0nes Год назад

The independence day one would be sweet as a poster with the fiber optics 🤤

@warlockpaladin2261 Год назад

These are cool. 😎

@jamesfraley2715 Год назад

I can't find this matte painting in Independence Day. I watched the scene where they enter to upload the virus several times, and I can't screen match this composite. Could this be from another shot in the film?

@stonetownriders4543 Год назад

So cool

@crowguy506 Год назад

That antenna lineage goes forth with Picard 3x10 or any Borg Queen ship from Star Trek.

@robertillston2350 Год назад

Are there commonly used dimensions for these matt paintings based on the film strip/frame size at the time?

@patreekotime4578 Год назад

Film stocks were pretty standardized, but the size required is determined more by the lens. It takes s special lens to be able to photograph a flat artwork and keep it flat and in focus, especially if there will be compositing where they shoot through the painting towards a minature or live action. In David Lynch's Dune, they shot through matte painting, and through scale miniatures, to live action all in one shot to get the airfield scene. All of the perspective math has to be worked out so that straight lines remain straight and the camera has to be at the perfect position with the perfect lens.

@Atrahasis7 Год назад

Always loved them, no doubt one day CGI will reach the same quality even better, but there is just something about paintings. Reminds me a lot of Turner and similar painters. Anybody google a hi res version of Bernardo Bellotto Dresden from the Right Bank of the Elbe, its a masterpiece and it seems so detailed form afar, but when you get close the little people are really funny looking.