Dobson's Worst Take - Astrophotography is Pointless.

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I'd like to think John Dobson and Domey McDomeface would get along and he'd officially recant this silly statement.
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@Microtonal_Cats 7 месяцев назад

I'll never win an APOD but having Dylan base a video on a meme I made comes close. 😺

@EarthAndSky4u 7 месяцев назад

For me astrophotography stole the addiction from alcohol for 5yrs now. I love it!!!! Thank you for being one those who inspired me.

@denispol79 7 месяцев назад

Yep, this stuff hits you stronger. )

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Well done! 👍🏼

@anandarochisha 7 месяцев назад

Good job 👏

@IAMDRREMULAKK 6 месяцев назад

Alcohol leaves you waking up with a headache in the morning... stumbling around all tired, with bloodshot eyes. Whereas Astrophotography.... never mind.

@johntdavies 6 месяцев назад

You know you can combine alcohol and astrophotography, in reasonable moderation though.

@IAMDRREMULAKK 6 месяцев назад

In 1988 Astrophotography consisted of a bird using his beak to chisel the image on a rock. If only John Dobson in 1988 could have known about all the future cool technology awaiting in Domey McDomeface.

@jeffreypicard6022 7 месяцев назад

My very first astrophotography target was the Orion Nebula. I was 58 years old and had dreamed of this moment since I was a teenager. When my first exposure appeared on my computer I started to cry. This was MY picture. I took it. I had accomplished something I had been dreaming of for 45 years. I totally understand the euphoria that visual astronomers get while looking through their telescopes. I get that same feeling when imaging. We are all just taking different roads to the same destination.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

I feel this comment.

@BitRogueDigital 7 месяцев назад

Hey, this is partly my story too. I was just a kid playing with my dad's clunky home made newtonian. Zero tracking and barely able to focus troubles notwithstanding, my imagination was inspired and vowed one day to surpass my fathers set up with a fully computerised tracking scope. But it took another 40 years before I revisited that notion after taking some night landscape shots of Neowise. Last year I took my first deep space fully tracked image - Andromeda Galaxy. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't just a little bit emotional at the time.

@glaurung666 5 месяцев назад

I felt the same when Andromeda galaxy appeared on my photo. It was MINE! My father says that all best astrophotos are already made by Hubble and huge telescopes in the mountains, but the truth is that now I can make photos not much worse than professional astronomers could. And I did it and no one else, with my cheap DIY telescope, tracker and mount.

@brianhayward8240 7 месяцев назад

I'm a visual astronomer first and an astrophotographer second. Love them both but it's hard to beat being connected to the sky looking through that eyepiece and the challenge and joy of manually finding something under your own power. For me, the astrophotography challenge is more around wrangling the gear to get that perfect data, then processing (and re-processing) until you have something you are happy to share. I feel more connected to the gear and the computer than the sky in this case. Still love it and narrowband does a great job of giving me the astronomy fix on those less than perfect nights. Your approach to videos is awesome btw. Love the twist of humor you add to all of them.

@ziggyfrnds 7 месяцев назад

Boo :-P Just kidding mate! I feel the same way, I got a big synscan dob to do just that. But like any other self respecting amateur astronomer I put a camera in the focuser and then had the best time learning how to deal with field rotation 😅

@brianhayward8240 7 месяцев назад

@@ziggyfrnds Oh no. Cameras don't touch my dob.... that's for visual.... don't want to contaminate it. :)

@Microtonal_Cats 7 месяцев назад

My eyes are too poor for visual astronomy. So I gave my Dob (my first scope) to the guy who built my AstroHut (Concrete McRollOffRoof) as a tip since he did a nice job.

@aviewfarfaraway8560 7 месяцев назад

I find I often relate completely to your videos and posts but when I saw you write today, even though it was just the smallest of flashes across the screen, about your troubles of having loose nuts, it literally touched a whole new level of relatability. Keep doing what you do! The addiction and its consequences are real, and we’re right there along with you.

@aviewfarfaraway8560 7 месяцев назад

Oh, side point to Dobson’s comment: it’s a bit like saying just because someone can climb Everest better than you, no one should ever do it. While the argument to whether doing it has merit is a whole other thing, the reason that someone can do it better is not. P.P.S. I’ve never climbed Everest either.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thanks man.. it’s a struggle sometimes but I can’t help it. It makes me happy!

@testboga5991 5 месяцев назад

I think Dobsons quote is getting some new meaning with the new AI tools. They infuse our images with information from all the pictures that were already taken, so in a sense we're really moving towards a point, at which all the images have already been taken.

@matthewbaker7513 6 месяцев назад

It's tongue in cheek! I absolutely understand the draw of Astrophotography, I just find a great joy in visual. We all love the same thing in the end.

@DylanODonnell 6 месяцев назад

You get it.

@kittersky12 6 месяцев назад

I think you really touched on something here, I have been completely taken by astrophotography and it's just magical. I agree it's indescribable, but I think it's because it's so different for everyone. To me it makes me feel closer to the stars, that I'm wrangling the universe to uncover itself in front of my eyes, that I'm revealing its secrets, that I'm seeing something I shouldn't see. And that's just such a good feeling, getting this data and making it talk, making the universe talk, telling our story, piece by piece, pixel by pixel, photon by photon. It's frustrating at times sure, but that's why when it works it's just so sweet. I understand how visual astronomers get this feeling as well but to me it was never enough, I always wanted to see more, and the challenge of doing so is just so fulfilling. In the end it's a personal story, but the beauty in it is that even though it's personal, sharing the universe with others is sharing a piece of ourselves and I just love that. Anyways I went a bit philosophical here but that's the effect your video has apparently! Great stuff as always Dylan, may the weather clear soon, we all need it ;)

@newpilot4370 7 месяцев назад

Good day, mate. You've definitely inspired me to get back into astrophotography, a hobby I abandoned in early 2000. Instead, I quietly toiled away at my dead-end job and saved for retirement. However, after discovering your videos five years ago, I've sunk $100k or more in equipment alone. Thanks to that, I now need to work an additional 10 years before I can retire. Thanks, really, thanks, man.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Hey don’t blame me you dig your own hole 😆

@normanhey8555 6 месяцев назад

Maybe because everything being meaningless and we're all going to die, I am with you wanting, almost needing, the buzz all of this A-P stuff gives me. You're right--visual stuff gives you a bit, like the shock you get from static buildup, but the A-P jolt goes on as long as you're "plugged in"! Glad you made this one, Dylan. Keep up the great work!

@bakerfx4968 7 месяцев назад

You’re good at these types of videos! Thanks for sharing my dude

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@landspide 6 месяцев назад

Good one, epic one... May we all conquer and embrace our addictions, especially when they are productive ones.

@ohwell2790 4 месяца назад

The quality of the photos is important. But, doing it yourself and seeing what the work and time put in has brought the personal enjoyment and being outside with the stars are more important to me. My photos are not really that good but they are mine. My own rig is a motorized Meade XL70 10 years old with motor on the RA axis. The telescopes in a 120mm Celestron 1000mm focal length achromat. $200 camera ZWO-AS1224MC and am happy with that. Being 80 years of age it brings me happiness and something to do. Your channel is a large part of that. Thanks Dylan

@gomanastro 7 месяцев назад

OK, it MUST have been the music...I think I had tears by 4:40....what is that about? and from a Dylan O'Donnell video??? great work, guess i'm an addict too.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

My feelings are genuine too.

@tonycifani5787 7 месяцев назад

I do love John Dobson for his contributions and his general philosophy as a "sidewalk" astronomer, but he could be quite cantankerous at times. I think his main goal was to show people how to build simple large aperture reflectors for very little money, and also get them inspired to get out there looking at the night skies. Do remember that way back in 1988, when he spoke of this, most amateur astrophotographers were probably struggling to get there crappy clock drives and worm gears working at all, with a small Newtonian reflector on a scrappy insufficient equatorial mount. And with film, God forbid! I am a visual only amateur astronomer, and oddly, a photographer as well by trade, but I deeply respect and follow those (like you!) who pursue astrophotography and someday, maybe, I'll start pursuing this hobby as well. I'm simply amazed by the images you astrophotographers are capturing these days, and quite often with modest scopes and gear. Keep up the great work!

@OhanSmit 7 месяцев назад

There are three people in this world: visual astronomers, newcomers, and astrophotographers. All three have their respective boxes , great video bro!

@Astrokhels 7 месяцев назад

‘22 was an addicting 40+ targets like literally every good seeing. It’s partly a burn out to get my images to where they are now. ‘23 shifted to personal family urgency, business, work and bad weather stacked all year round. There’s just no wiggle to dither. There was just no way I could wrap my excitement around a smattering of inconsistent good nights. So II did visual observations and went to bed which was getting my fix. Eventually I dived in to astronomy even deeper and re-evaluated why we love taking pictures. We may have skipped a season, a year and yet the stars always begs that call to be owned, rediscovered and loved. Getting the urge to get back doing AP this year. It with more of just me and stars.

@FAstroHD 7 месяцев назад

Hope the weather improves for you mate and all the astrophotographers out there. Clear Skies!!

@AnyPerson-my8pe 5 месяцев назад

Oh, I'm so glad to be called out by name😅❄️♥️

@koomber777 6 месяцев назад

Love visual and love doing astrophotography, even if im garbage at it. But the thing is, visual is for me its a very personal thing that is hard to share. You can share an astrophoto and everyone can get the joy from it.

@willvrbasso383 7 месяцев назад

Hi Dylan. I usually don't comment on anything in RU-vid - but this was an excellent video. I think astrophotography provides a feeling of exploration that is almost gone in the world, revealing far out places that few have ever seen. Well done!

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Will! It’s great to hear from you! Appreciate it.

@rickolson1738 7 месяцев назад

it's called "THE SHUTTER BUG" and we've been bitten!

@sodakastronut 7 месяцев назад

"Buckle up snowflakes...the nebula is there for the taking." Awesome. Its from YOUR backyard on YOUR rig. Self-satisfaction is the buzz. Clear Skies & God Bless you and yours Dylan.

@SuperNova-py1ec 7 месяцев назад

Great video Dylan. I’ve struggled to do any AP for about 2 years. Mainly life related issues but I still have a passion inside which your video helped me feel good about.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Happens to all of us man.

@gary122 7 месяцев назад

Being interested since the late 70s in both photography and astronomy, it was a natural progression into Astrophotography. Been doing it on and off all my life. I'll get my rig rolling and sit back on a chair and enjoy the milky way with binos as my subs roll in. Must agree with you, this sumner has been bad for clear nights. I would be a few 100kms from you inland. Spring was awesome but. Hopefully Autumn will be kind! Thankyou for a pleasurable video!

@davidemancini7853 6 месяцев назад

Is not about just taking pretty pic, is a deep connection that we all should have with the Universe and is going back millennia :) nice video Dylan!

@mellowhippo 7 месяцев назад

My name is Robert, and I am an astrophotographer. "Hello, Robert"

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Welcome Robert.

@TomSupergan 7 месяцев назад

The quote of Dobson "...all the pictures have been taken..." reminds me of Richard Feynman stating that he already looked for something smaller than a quark and didn't see anything (mathematically), so told his students it would be foolish to look for anything smaller.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Hah that didn’t age too well either 😆

@bbasiaga 7 месяцев назад

I will say though that as much as I enjoy AP, it still can't substitute for the feeling I get seeing something in real time through an eyepiece, particularly in a scope I made myself. They are almost like two separate hobbies to me.

@bobbymckenzie3202 7 месяцев назад

I take the same damn picture over and over....I love it

@AshA-ww8hc 7 месяцев назад

This is one of your best videos yet. There is something utterly more satisfying when you see a gravitationally lensed galaxy by a Nasa picture, go out there, plan for hours how to capture it and then when it all comes together, and you get that nice faint glimpse of a gravitationally lensed galaxy matching Nasa's infinitely better picture, you know life is meaningless and we are all gonna die.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙏🏼

@joeyg9872 7 месяцев назад

when igot my first scope ,seing saturn and jupiter are memories i will never forget (hopefully)... but the first time i was imaging the whirlpool galaxy (my first astro image) its almost impossible to explain the majical feeeling of seeing those photons collect on " your" dslr screen, Thank you Dylan , its been a month or more with shit skies here in montana but you help remind evrybody why we do this hobby thats been done multiple times before... its the human experience .. so the lick can lick it

@ziggyfrnds 7 месяцев назад

I use my tracking dob to do astrophotography, I stack with APP because it's really good with field rotation. Take that John Dobson! 😅 Great video as usual Dylan! I'm in Sydney and I've been unable to do any astro for weeks and weeks and it feels like an itch I can't scratch, even buying new astro equipment doesn't scratch it 😢

@thhall459 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Mr. O'Donnell; you are a gem of a human being.

@bradleypout1820 7 месяцев назад

Simply :). Thanks Dylan.

@Luftbubblan 7 месяцев назад

Uff can relate. Just passed one year without being able to image :/ Hard to stay motivated but i still got some drive to get back to imaging :D I'm not done with space.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

It’s comes and goes I find .. but one clear night and good hooks me back in usually :)

@adventuresofshadowdog 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video! Love your channel and content. Thanks so much for all you contribute and share to the field of astrophotography. Regarding the weather, even here in the desert Southwest USA, we’ve had months of mostly overcast skies and rainy weather. Very unusual for this region. Grateful for the water though as we do need it.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@AstroFalconVegas 7 месяцев назад

Agree with this video. I'm a member of the Las Vegas Astronomical Society. We do several public star parties all around the Vegas valley. I personally adapted my 10" dobsonian newt into a highly modified astrograph sitting on an eq mount with all the bells and whistles. I enjoy going to these public star parties and using the live stacking feature on the ASIAIR to show people what they can't see through an eyepiece. Hundreds of people have been amazed by what targets look like once you've spent about an hour collecting photons and stacked them in real time. John Dobson was in the right place but at the wrong time. With advancements in camera, eq mount and astro computer technology, I'm sure his ideas would be drastically different today.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Very cool!

@johngiromini5745 7 месяцев назад

"...and I'm not just a crazy person." Well, shucks, I was led to believe that was a pre-requisite for this hobby. Ciao!

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Haha you’re probably right.

@brodymk45 7 месяцев назад

Old intro throwback!

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

You noticed !

@Fenriswaffle 7 месяцев назад

I've grown up loving astronomy and in the last year have taken up a very beginning hobby with astrophotography. I would not deny calling it an addiction, else I would not be freezing my butt off for 3 hours taking short untracked exposures just to get a faint glimpse of something that takes my interest. I never get good shots sure, but even getting a super faint ghost of grey fuzz in the center of my screen letting me know I am tracking the flame nebula while I suffer taking 1s exposures and yet STILL getting giddy about seeing it. Even after processing the stack and finding Alnitak blowing the image out was an exciting and interesting time. Even moreso when I hear people verbally shake their fist at that star for being such a bright nuisance. Its a hobby, a community, a desire and a love. I don't really see how Dobson could consider it a disease, perhaps technology from his time and perspective made it make sense and I wish he could see what has been made since then, perhaps his perspective would change. Still much thanks to him for making astronomy accessible to more people.

@77BlackKnight 7 месяцев назад

A became and astro addict when I learned from your channel and astrophotography in all its forms. Need more data and beer. Your videos always makes me happy. Weather has been unforgiving in stockholm and sucks when I cant do photograph. See other struggle also. Keep up your amazing channel and your personal craving for the black art of astrophotography. Brahhh. Cheers mate and clear skies if u get them.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thankyou my friend :)

@LearnToStargaze 7 месяцев назад

We had over 5 ft of snow this last month, and it's currently -10 degrees. This explains why I've almost perfected Johnny B. Goode on the Les Paul....

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Hehe yep! Getting really good at Dorian mode currently.

@richardshagam8608 5 месяцев назад

I can download pics from Hubble or Webb and say, "Hey, that's pretty neat!" Or I can look at my own admitedly crappy astroimages and say, "Wow!!!! I took that!!!"

@AndreaGirones 7 месяцев назад

I loved this video! This was a wonderful look inside our astrophotography minds and hearts 🥰

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thx Andrea :)

@johnreilly8672 7 месяцев назад

I went back to visual it's less time consuming and costs a lot less and there sooo many great AP's out there that I simply could not compete with and the web is so full of excellent images. So it's back to the eyepiece for me. PS you and Trevor are my go to guys. Thanks

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Hey thanks John!

@starfleetau 7 месяцев назад

its been a rough start to the year I've not gotten any shots in since the 22nd of Jan with huge gaps in there, either its been that hot that the skies are just a mess or cloud covered or raining and yeah.. so feel you there and with the shift in time we drop the next 6 months until its back up above the horizon again. John Dobson was a great man, but like most he had his own opinion and his position was wrong. The fact is that how could one observatory have seen 'everything' unless your spot on the equator you can't see the north and south skies... I wonder what he'd think of the fact that DOB SNOBS (love that btw) use ALT/AZ mounts now to 'track' across the skies, and even to take photographs with a rotator on them.

@siberx4 7 месяцев назад

Back in John Dobson's day his quote might have been more true, but the march of technology has absolutely changed the game. The equipment and software available today allows amateurs to produce astonishing images, and unlike a professional observatory subject to strict competing time allocations (and a general requirement for "scientifically useful" data acquisition), we can afford to spend dozens or hundreds of hours capturing our one particular obsession at the time. This allows amateur astrophotographers to capture imagery that you can't, in fact, simply "buy them from the Lick Observatory" so to speak. Even putting that aside though, there's something inherently compelling about taking your _own_ pictures, knowing you went through the struggles to make everything work just right (or right enough) to capture that image. Plenty of normal photographers have taken imagery of all the big famous sights, yet for some reason photographers still "waste their time" taking their own pictures of the Eiffel Tower, Yellowstone Park, Notre Dame, and the White Cliffs of Dover even though beautiful photographs are readily available for all of them. There might be other better images of those targets out there, but with that argument then why bother even doing visual astronomy at all when somebody will always have a bigger telescope, clearer & darker skies, and better eyes than you? The fact that _you_ did it yourself, whether that's visual astronomy or astrophotography, is a part of the magic.

@JethroXP 5 месяцев назад

I the case of John Dobson I think it's called Functional Fixedness where people so invested in a particular use case can't imagine using a device for any other purpose.

@StarlancerAstro 7 месяцев назад

Shit I live in a b7-8 sky. I can’t see crap if I don’t take a picture but I love astronomy and be damned if I won’t keep trying

@Wombatzone31 7 месяцев назад

I'm going thru hard time medically. Astrophotography from the tinkering to the photon acquisition to the processing helps me get by. I can get so lost in it that it makes my days go by nicer. This hobby is an addiction I'm proud to have!

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Get well soon my dude.

@bofblog 7 месяцев назад

Great outlook and explanation...as with non astro images we click a shutter and hope people have the same reaction and emotions as we do taking it ,if we do we succeed though in both cases most don't know the effort in time,money and the human side to get them...glad of the people who do, the kindred souls on this pale blue dot

@cjmenagh882 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video as always. Sorry about the weather and it HAS been terrible all over. Usually clears for a day or two around full moon. One can forgive Dobson a bit as at the time he said this I was trying to get pretty terrible images using Kodacolor Gold or even (OMG) hypered tech pan film with manual guiding with that 20 minute image ruined by the guy with the flashlight or the plane coming in for a landing. Times are some better now.

@storiediastrofotografia 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for share my feelings about AP, words by words :)

@BrentMantooth 7 месяцев назад

That buzz is called a flow state. When you are pushing yourself to your limits and fully immersed in the task. Lots of cool books on how to get into flow states more often

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Can I just do meth?

@goldfish31ful 7 месяцев назад

Dylan, You can have your weather back. I don't want it anymore.

@DaVinci39 6 месяцев назад

You nailed it! That’s what we get !

@baz_astra 7 месяцев назад

Remember: families come and go, but the night sky is forever.

@Wheeljack678 6 месяцев назад

Well Dylan... you ARE a crazy person - but you're our kind of crazy person. Never change!

@pdc023 7 месяцев назад

We all have our personal biases. I forget where I saw a video from some guy calling eyepieces one of the ten most useless bits of kit in astronomy. Can't recall his name, but think he might have been an Aussie like you. :) But in all seriousness, there's nothing wrong with a personal bias, we can all agree to disagree, but the most insufferable person to meet on the astronomy field is the astro-snob. I've met my share, and I'm betting almost everyone else has too. I love your content, and I never allow your opinions or anyone else's to trigger me. Life is too short to seek out and revel in conflict. And as long as you realize that there are other more important priorities in life, it's not an addiction; it's a passion. Thank you for sharing your passion with us.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Hehe thanks for getting it!

@cbynum526 7 месяцев назад

Beautifully said 👍

@johntdavies 6 месяцев назад

A great video, loved the personal side, I feel exactly the same. A worrying lack of smut and innuendos though.

@DylanODonnell 6 месяцев назад

Apologies .. I will try to do better in THE VIDEO I JUST DROPPED ABOUT HAVING A THREESOME

@cex7355 5 месяцев назад

DOB imagers taking over planetary imaging now lol

@DylanODonnell 4 месяца назад

Haha

@davidepistritto3178 7 месяцев назад

You don't offend no one, mate. You said it right. I do not understand what I can do with all of my pictures. But I know exactly what to do with every single photon I've looked at during nights through the eyepiece. I do not think you can understand what this means for people who loves look through the telescope and can't feel the same passion with "data". What you feel without astrophotography is the same I feel without going to observe with my eye. The same. Nothing is wrong. But everything is meaningless. :)

@astrodysseus 6 месяцев назад

Well, for me the thing is it's completely different to take an astrophoto yourself than looking at someone else. You know exactly how that photo was taken, what were the conditions, what went wrong or not and what was the effect. The photo has a story and you know what's true, what's exagerated and it gives you (IMO) a better perception of what is the reality of those celestial objects (e.g. the palettes you could use vs the real colors) It is an incredible experience, a journey.. that one has to try to understand. It is moving, the first time that, even with very little skill, you managed to get a blurry bulb of colors in the sky. It will be crappy, but it will be yours and from now on, you will know that object and its specificities.. It's a learning / discovery process

@faintandfuzzies 6 месяцев назад

Having observed with Dobson a few different times, I can confirm he was quite the eccentric! He was also a purist in the sense that you were not allowed to buy parts for scope or even a scope itself... you had to make it by hand even down to the mirror.

@DylanODonnell 6 месяцев назад

lol Jesus Christ.

@jowaldo 7 месяцев назад

What was the 3d printed part you put on your dome roof? I have the same dome (thanks to you lol) but I don't have the motorized shutter. However the shutter catches on itself as you are sliding it back. Is that part to help slide it in place??

@DylanODonnell 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know what it’s called .. but it’s very helpful! The old one broke. Ask sidereal trading to send you a couple :)

@jowaldo 6 месяцев назад

@@DylanODonnell awesome thank you!!

@bimbam1100 6 месяцев назад

2 month of cloud or rain here in France. Seems i will have to wait next year for m42.

@markstanford2315 7 месяцев назад

Great video Dylan. I don't think John Dobson could really appreciate what we can do now from a 1988 perspective. That being said, I did have a 22" Obsession Dobsonian style scope for a while. And even though I loved it, 150 pounds of scope was a job to move around. That Obsession has given way to a new one. I now stay home in my observatory and collect photons much as you do. Clear Skies and please forgive all the American measurements ;-)

@charlielemley8319 7 месяцев назад

You’re not just a crazy person - you’re that and so much more…. Nice video!

@JemCruz 7 месяцев назад

Oh yeah, when the weather here in aussie tend to be very hostile to astrophotographers we also become philosophical sometimes too. Maybe. Love this video mate.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Jem!

@richhudnut5110 7 месяцев назад

I could get addicted to Ha for sure... Heading to Death Valley next week to shoot the night sky reflected on the lake at bad water.... Addicted

@jamesonjabiru 7 месяцев назад

He's the same guy who spent weeks hand grinding his own mirrors for his plywood telescope.....

@sunset758 7 месяцев назад

I am just scratching the surface of astrophotography because I lack more accessories/experience to be a real astrophotographer but recently I felt the excitement of taking pictures of Orion with an iPhone connected to the lens of my Celestron. It made me gasp when the beautiful picture showed up for me. The feeling is not the same by just seeing it on the web or a book. I understand now.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Yes!

@JarrodMcKitterick 7 месяцев назад

As I sit here drinking my morning coffee staring out the window at another cloudy sky in what is suppose to be "sunny California"... I also wonder if I am crazy. FIVE DAYS! I have seen 5 days of clear nights since November's Thanksgiving weekend... please let April 8th be clear. If the eclipse is visible it will be a sight to see. Good grief! I said "if"! I meant, "when" it comes! I'm doomed. One little slip like that could cause the great Eclipse to pass you by. Oh, Great Eclipse, where are you? .......... oh um.. where am I? nvm.. thank you for the video. ffffffff....

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Wow yeh that’s what it’s like here too!

@leonidasyoutube 7 месяцев назад

Well said.

@leoncorns1450 7 месяцев назад

Lovely Video Dylan! John Dobson knew his scopes were not good for astrophotography but he still wanted to sell them. Hence the anti astrophotography sentiment. 😂

@peternakitch4167 7 месяцев назад

First astronomy is a broad church and should remain so: there are people, e.g. Dobson who have mindsets that don't let much else in and always will be. Keeping doing what you love. Second, anything can be defined as pointless by someone, somewhere; just go and keep taking images (if that is your jam). The only caveat you mention: family and some other obligations. The only time I would stop my astronomy obsession (I regularly visually observe and take occasional images) and by extension astrophotography is if I damaged my close family relationships.

@terrance_huang 7 месяцев назад

John Dobson and all of us didn't have reasonable quality and price digital cameras back then. And Lick observatory is decommissioned now :D

@sjpp71 7 месяцев назад

Visual is great, perhaps is how most of us started in this hobby . But has its limitations, light pollution won't let us appreciate the sky beyond bright stars, clusters and planets. Even if we could see galaxies and nebulae, we will never be able to see them as detailed as a camera can capture them. Same thing happens with northern (and southern) lights, now they are more "visible" just because everyone's got cellphones with pretty decent cameras. Yes, he was wrong. Of course he deserves credit for helping to take astronomy to the masses (not saying you said the opposite!). Good health and clear skies!

@Abaris42 7 месяцев назад

There you go again! Adding meaning to this meaningless existence. My name is Luke and I am an addict to astrophotography.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Welcome Luke. This is a safe space.

@TheBignick243 7 месяцев назад

good to see domey mcdomeface is living its best life!

@rodbatman237 4 месяца назад

A Love letter to the hobby

@nicholasjaworski9368 7 месяцев назад

I mean, he has a point. We cannot compare to Hubble or JWST. THAT SAID, this isn’t just about having the pictures it’s about taking them- you/us taking them

@ctortolini 7 месяцев назад

I'm also in the Southern Hemisphere (Lima, Peru) and I thought it was only us where weather had gone crazy... not a single clear night since last October... Only good thing is that there are still some clear days, so solar photography is helping keep my addiction at bay. About Dobson's comment... it must be one of the dumbest thing anyone have ever said... I can download a picture of the Eiffel Tower from the internet but that doesn't mean I wouldn't take one myself while in Paris... and I would probably be very proud of it... because of what it represents to me...

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

It’s not just you !

@cryptojihadi265 7 месяцев назад

I'll never forget the first time I saw your video about the most worthless things astronomers can own, and I think first on the list to throw out was an eyepeice. As an avid visual observer, I thought you couldn't be more wrong. That was until John, just asked me to hold his beer! LOL WOW, yeah that didn't age well at all. But to your point, it turned out to be A LOT more valid, than I thought. I Had three scopes on order, an 18" Teeter Dob to observe DSO, a 160 FL TEC Apo for ultra sharp planetary views and a 100MM Double stacked Lunt Solar scope for details on the sun. While waiting for all that to come in(took two years for the dob), I thought, hell, I might as well buy a couple cameras to photgraph some of this stuff and WOW, that has become my addiction. I would say 90% or more of my time is spent with AP,, not observing. Although driving out to a dark sky site to photograph the broad-spectrum objects, it's really nice to have that massive dob to observe just about anything in the sky while I gather hours and hours of data. But again, the majority of the time is spent in my backyard, grabbing those really cool DSO objects with my refractors. I'm lucky to get out to a dark site once or twice a month, but any night the sky is clear, I am out there on my back deck with my refractor grabbing data.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

What a journey you’re on!

@ronm6585 7 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@hawkesworth1712 7 месяцев назад

I'd give Dobson a big pass on that remark because in his day he would have been right. The closest thing to a personal computer was the Commodore 64, which probably had a fraction of the processing power of a wrist watch, and the internet didn't exist. Digital cameras had only recently been invented and you probably had a choice of either buying a half way decent scope and an equatorial mount, or feeding the kids. Then you have to take the roll of film to the Kodak shop for processing and you didn't have the luxury of being able to do the sort of processing with images that we can today. Believe me, I was born in 1952 and spent all my working life in high tech and there is no way we could have known what was to come. These days you would have to be mad or a Trump supporter to think there isn't anything humans won't be able to do in the future.

@johnadastra1754 6 месяцев назад

Oh, Dylan. You're quoting a guy from a different era. Born in 1915, the guy was a Vendantan monk for quite a while and lived a life of minimalism. He made his own scopes, polishing the mirrors down from old porthole glass. His main achievement was making scopes on a low budget and bringing astronomy to the masses. I doubt he ever owned a CCD or even a laptop. I met him maybe 20 years ago and he was still quite vital in his 90's. He had strong opinions and gave great thought to human existence and the universe (God is a she). He'll forever be known for the scope he invented :).

@Astro_Ape 7 месяцев назад

Came here to laugh, cried instead. I'm a visual observer for now only because I'm too poor to afford a camera and probably too dumb to be able to use it anyway (I'm a monkey after all), but I understand the buzz one gets just from hanging with the AP guys in my club while they're stacking images. The first time they helped me image through my equipment (my scope & mount, their camera/software) was definitely a high!! My astro club founder is a sweet 80-something year old lady who was really close friends with John Dobson. She's got some hilarious stories about the "grumpy eccentric jail dodging monk". He definitely had a different philosophy on the art of amateur astronomy for sure.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

She sounds great ! I’m glad the video hit well, thank you!

@wooddogg8 7 месяцев назад

😃Hi, My name is Joe, and I'm an addict. Can't get enough, Hoping this season is good weather-wise!

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

HELL YES BROTHER

@lilithgaither9603 7 месяцев назад

This,,, made me feel things

@trollshark6260 7 месяцев назад

My favorite part about invention is that whatever you make can, and may, be better suited for something you never thought of. I've seen so many beautiful images come from dobsons, and after hearing him say that I'm sure he never thought his telescopes would be so well suited for astrophotography. It's just like how camera sensors used to be solar panels back in 1912, but then someone took a picture with them and invented photography. That man's name was John Camera, the big JC, and I'll always be thankful for him. Stay blessed, source below, amen 🙏 🙌 Source: I made it up

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

haha. seriously though I think he'd take it back.

@davidbaldry5516 4 месяца назад

Hi Dylan, I have a chance to buy a Bintel BT 302 for $800, What should I look out for, I have not had a Dobsonian before. Cheers :) PS. love your vids

@DylanODonnell 4 месяца назад

Neither have I :) and thx !

@chrisstrobel3439 7 месяцев назад

I had Dobson tell me this to my face when I took his Telescope making class in 1990 in San Francisco, I dropped out of the class after that, very condescending tone just turned me off to the whole whole thing.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Wow .. what a story!

@Z-add 4 месяца назад

Hubble has taken all the cool pictures. You can't even come close to those images.

@DylanODonnell 4 месяца назад

JWST enters the chat

@drunk_astronomy 7 месяцев назад

You got a cool kid there Dylan, I hope he’s doing well.

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Two of em :) they’re both doing great!

@drunk_astronomy 7 месяцев назад

@@DylanODonnell Excellent!

@anandarochisha 7 месяцев назад

Maybe our kids wont even own eyepieces..just a screen to double check as we digitally integrate a sensor field of view to wirelessly transmit it to our corneal implants. HOW MUCH FUN IS THAT ? Maybe the old Monk had a point. Also, i am going to build a dob and Dylan will be jealous..😅

@ttnownow1292 7 месяцев назад

Yes indeed it's been so cloudy here in Toronto I can't remember a year with so few clear nights.. Great video Dylan.. although I like the wild hair days ..... and Dob is human I guess we all say dumb things..

@DylanODonnell 7 месяцев назад

Wild hair will return. Some ppl hate it 😆