The TARDIS doesn’t have faulty navigation...watch The Doctor’s Wife. The TARDIS wanted to see the universe, and it has the ability (as a sentient machine) to pilot itself. Its “faulty navigation” is the TARDIS overriding the pilot’s instructions. As she said, “I always took you where you needed to go.”
Agreed, and I think the Doctor always knew this, when I first started watching the show in the Tom Baker years (3rd-4th regeneration episode was my first one), it seemed to me that the 4th knew that when they didn't show up where he wanted to go, it was because there was something there that he needed to take a look at. He just went with the "Well, where exactly are we now?" routine for the benefit of his companions. At least that's how it appeared to me at the time. With Matt's Doctor though, he was the happy go lucky Doctor not a care in the world, until you got him a bit angry, than all of his lives and years as a timelord would start to show in his demeanor and he would just say something like "Hello, I'm the Doctor, basically........... run"
Ruthgar - Remember the Tom Baker episode where the TARDIS landed on a fake earth with a village populated by robots who looked human? Two things bothered me that The Doctor’s Wife answered. How could the TARDIS get the wrong earth? It’s astronomically impossible unless the fake earth was on the opposite side of the sun in the same star system (so earth couldn’t know it was there and it would be plausible to make a “wrong turn” on the way to earth). Next, how and why did the TARDIS leave once Sarah Jane put the key into the door. The Doctor said the TARDIS went on to the real earth, but ON ITS OWN...without passengers...potentially leaving the Doctor forever stranded? If the TARDIS was sentient, and it could see all of space and time (as indicated in The Doctor’s Wife), it (1) knew the Doctor needed to go there, and (2) knew the Doctor would find another way to get to earth before it left.
Thay don't realise the tardis could be alive until the 3rd story: The Edge of Destruction (1964). Then the 3rd doctor does make some comments about the Tardis being alive. And then as the show goes on more comments are made.
Maybe that's what makes it faulty. While a TARDIS that takes you where you "need" to be but not where you want is perfect for someone like The Doctor, it would be a pain in the ass for other Time Lords.
Neil Gaiman is a f*cking genius writer. In one episode, he gave the TARDIS a personality, and with one line he SIMULTANEOUSLY wrote out the possibility of any person ever playing that role again. “I’ll always be here. But this is when we talked. And now even that has come to an end.” I’m not crying, you’re crying! 😭
I might have missed it but I think something important was left out: In "The Doctor's Wife" after the Doctor says, "You never took me where I wanted to go", Idris/the Tardis replied "But I always took you where you NEEDED to go." This would imply that, rather than malfunctioning, the Tardis' navigation was completely under control ... by the TARDIS!
The way I look at it, the navigation is definitely faulty, the tardis just has more control over it than the doctor, for example, the tardis took the doctor to the area where Craig lived, which was not where he wanted to be, because there was danger in the flat above, but when the doctor took Clara home and accidentally ended up in Scotland, that had nothing to do with the tardis and there was no danger for him to “need” to be there, so that was just the navigation messing up
@@sonnypanrucker9088 That's not really a necessary thing to say, is it? People come here to watch these videos and discuss what's going on in them. If you think that nerd is really an insult, then maybe you shouldn't be here.
Hunh. A while back, long before the rebirth series began, the black hole (aka "the Eye of Harmony") was explained to have been a super-massive black hole (kept stable by powerful, dimensionally-stabilizing technology) that was engineered by one of the Prime Three "Founders of Gallifrey", Omega. Omega had been the stellar engineer who designed and constructed the hole and had been thought lost in the effort. He was found, however, not to have perished but still dwelt in a strange, half-realm of thought, energy, and quasi-matter, either just within the event horizon or heart of the Eye of Harmony, itself ("The Three Doctors" and "Arc of Infinity"). This incredibly powerful black hole was also defined as being kept beneath the Panopticon on Gallifrey. ("The Deadly Assassin".) The made-for-TV movie with Paul McGann said, however, that it was in the center of the TARDIS, itself. This discrepancy led to the explanation that all TARDISes had the Eye of Harmony co-located within their hearts. In essence, each TARDIS has the Eye of Harmony within its heart, simultaneously, via bent-space. Each draws from its near-infinite energy, simultaneously. Then, when the first "re-charge" episode of New Who happened ("Boom Town"), it was proposed that since Gallifrey was "no more" that the Eye of Harmony simply wasn't available any longer. Therefore, the Doctor had done some serious re-wiring and re-engineering to allow the ship to fuel-up on ambient artron energies by parking it on naturally-occurring (or unnaturally-occurring) temporal/spatial rifts. Later, after Gallifrey was released from its pocket universe (some time between the end of "Time of the Doctor" and the end of "Heaven Sent"), the Eye of Harmony re-connected to the TARDISes across space-time as long as their relative timeline put them post-Time War. I'm not sure if you'd ever run into this series of explanations but it's what most Whovians of my age (too old: forgive me!) seem to think is the case. Or not. It's a wonderfully growing and changing show so all this could be changed or ret-conned at a moment's notice! :)
The TARDIS's eye of harmony, from my viewpoint, is basically a copy of the true eye of harmony that is kept active via Artron energy. The TARDIS's eye of harmony is basically a tesseract that draws from the true eye of harmony. Basically, the TARDIS has 2 exteriors. One operating exterior, and one exterior orbiting the true eye of harmony (where-whenever that may be).
11 had the best on-screen relationship with the TARDIS. I know other doctors refer to her as sentient too, but The Doctor's Wife and the few episodes in season 7 where he's trying to get Clara and the TARDIS to get along really solidified her as a character...sort of. Plus a fair few of these facts seem to be from his era, perhaps Moffat was just more interested in the TARDIS that other writers.
If you’re going to mention the doctors wife episode then you might as well mention the fact that the tardis told him that her Unreliable navigation system errors was intentional she took him where he needed to be not necessarily where he wanted to be. Basically forcing him to police all space-time
Technically it’s going to be counted as a black hole because if it stopped right before it becomes a black hole that means it’s not a star because it’s in the in between of changing but it’s really not a black hole
"It is sorely in need of an upgrade." TAKE THAT BACK YOU FIEND!!! Besides, the Doctor's TARDIS is a Type 40 Scientific Exploratory vessel, perfect for someone who prefers to explore and learn. It's a pioneering vehicle.
It also had alot of faults like it being able to expload the universe. But also the doctors version is probably the best. It's been used and updated by himself that much its resistant to alot of shit that would just murk a normal tardis.
The episode "The Doctor's Wife" always seemed to imply to me that the TARDIS was more of the Doctor's wife than River Song was. After all, the TARDIS showed up through out the whole episode where as River Song was only briefly mentioned at the end. I thought that was deep. Why name the episode that, unless it's about her? Well either way, it seems fairly obvious that the Doctor has a very fond and strong love for his TARDIS.
I think the bit at the end best explains: DOCTOR: (speaking to the TARDIS) What do you think, dear? Where shall we take the kids this time? AMY: Look at you pair. It's always you and her, isn't it, long after the rest of us have gone. A boy and his box, off to see the universe. DOCTOR: Well, you say that as if it's a bad thing. But honestly, it's the best thing there is.
But we did see some old keepsakes, like Amy's old toy Tardis and the Doctor's cot that baby Melody Pond Williams slept in (I know, I know, but I'm skipping the spoiler detail a lot of you are thinking now)
StillJustDreaming So stuff from the last two series. Not much history there. I wanted to see Adric, Nyssa and Tegan’s rooms or the sixties console. Something that was worthy of the shows 50th anniversary.
The chameleon circuit was fixed at one point I think during the 5th doctors time, but in the end he set it back to the police box. I remember a episode when I was younger. The Tardis turned into a piano and he played a small tune on it.
Actually it's more complicated than that. The 11th doctor broke the 1st doctor's TARDIS in one of the comics (Hunters of the Burning Stone), fixing it in the police booth shape so that the memory of the TARDIS would be stuck in the subconscious of the human race for all of history so that the alien of the week he was fighting wouldn't plant fear in the human race thus leading them to eradicate themselves and so that they would know that there is always hope to be found somewhere.
@@williamg209two Except most of the comics and Big Finish Productions are. 10s era is littered with references to them, and many of 11s side adventures that were mentioned but never shown later appeared in comics.
@@williamg209two you'd be surprised, most of the random phrases he threw out appeared in comics either before or after their TV appearance, thus they can be taken as mostly canon
I've always imagined the creation of a TARDIS was the mechanical engineering of the Timelords (what we see), and then the extra-dimensional "soul" of the TARDIS that fuels it, or what makes time-travel possible. You mentioned that it's powered by a black hole, so I find it hard to believe that is also part of the organic part of it. And the fact that the chameleon circuit is still broken proves it's not completely organic. It would have either healed from the "injury" by itself or react with an immune response. Almost like the Daleks. Squizzy organic core that controls stuff and with mechanical parts giving it shape.
The oldest companion in DW history. Let's pray Chibnall *OR ANY FUTURE WRITERS* doesn't give it a backstory NO ONE WANTS or they transfer its matrix into a new TARDIS leaving it's 50 years in the making outer shell destroyed or written out. *THE TARDIS MUST NEVER BE TOUCHED IN ANY WAY. MAKE THAT A LAW*
@Andrew Elie Neil extended the Story. What I mean is that I hope they don't make the TARDIS a dead girl that died as a child then was uploaded to the matrix. Shit like that
Given that the Doctor had Susan with him when he "borrowed" the TARDIS, then Susan is the oldest companion on the show. Not that the TARDIS was ever a companion in the proper sense; it's no more a companion than the sonic screwdriver.
I think it's safe to say after the damage they've done to the Doctor that nothing is safe. Expect future seasons to reveal that to grow a Tardis it requires the sacrifice of failed time lord children who couldn't stare into the vortex to nourish the soil and give it Galifreyian DNA so it can form symbioses with actual Timelords... or almighty immortal gods that birthed timelords.
Maybe all the travelling in a faulty time machine for that long has caused a few paradoxes along the way that might be explained later on? One commenter on an another video said that the Doctor being a timeless child might be less of a big deal than it actually is, but from our perspective it's supposed to be mind-blowing, and all of it might just stem from a bunch of bored people in an another dimension, or whatever the term would be in this case, who either wanted to troll a separate dimension or thought that child was way too annoying somehow and yeeted them into that hole. Wouldn´t that be hilarious if that was the case? But also sad because the Doctor's "real first" incarnate was actually abandoned by her own people.. So all in all, some people with way too much power playing gods and probably even watch it all unfold as entertainment.. What do you guys think about this? I'm actually curious! (I know I wrote this in an another comment section, just wanna see how many like this idea)
@@monkeybone1080 Come to think of it, that "staring into the vortex" stuff is pretty suspect. It's fair enough to take a pop at Chibnall for his dodgy ideas, but some of them have been quite sensible, and it's easy to forget that Moffat and Davies (especially) have given us a fair bit of nonsense. Chibnall's idea of rooting regeneration in biology/genetics makes a lot more sense than having it involve exposure to the vortex, which always struck me as bordering on the magical. I also liked it when Chibnall went back to showing us the Doctor maintaining the TARDIS as a _machine_ (e.g. Spyfall Part One), which is closer to what the TARDIS always was in Classic Who, and makes a lot more practical, scientific sense than the idea that TARDISes are grown.
If my memory serves me correctly, even in the First Episode of Doctor Who, the Doctor when explaining the TARDIS to the two people he would kidnap in that episode (Ian & Barbara), he mentioned that the TARDIS changes shape as well as how the interior is larger than the outside. In the second episode of the series ("The Tribe of Gum", I believe) the Doctor would be upset that the TARDIS hadn't camouflaged itself. Susan, the Doctor's granddaughter (based upon her references to him), had a conversation with Barbara which summarized the former exteriors the TARDIS had assumed prior to their arriving on 1963 Earth. Police Boxes were common on street corners in the 1960s. Evidence would suggest that the reason why the TARDIS was in the repair shop on Gallifrey was due to the faults in its navigation system rather than its Camelion Circuit. The Doctor kept notes about how to operate the TARDIS because the "standard" navigation rules of the TARDIS were not what the were in the Operations Manual for a Type 40 TARDIS.
The TARDIS also knew of both the Doctor acquiring new regenerations in The Time of the Doctor and the past regenerations from The Timeless Child. She announced in The Doctor's Wife that there were 30-40 control rooms, From both past and future incarnations of the Doctor.
In the second episode, upon noticing the chameleon circuit isn't working, Susan explains to Ian and Barbara numerous examples of shapes the external shell has produced, she even adds that one time it appeared as a Sudan chair... she and the doctor had had various numerous adventures long before reaching Earth (and staying there far longer than the Doctor would have liked), in 1963...
I personally I don't think he would do that because it might make his TARDIS jealous if she's jealous around humans she'll definitely be jealous around another TARDIS
Not just that deleted scene from Journey's End, but Captain Jack Harkness was also seen trying to grow his own TARDIS in the Torchwood Hub. Also, you might be interested to know that the material TARDISes are made/grown from is a type of Gallifreyan coral.
The Tardis doesn't need an upgrade. It may be old, but I have a suuuuper old sewing machine that still works better than modern ones I've had in the past. Love your Type 40 Tardis.
Well it doesn't work better than most of them tho. It has like big flaws. Most you see on the show that the doctor himself ends up fixing. Making it probably the best tardis in existence
The comillion circuit was fixed once, during the sixth doctors time, and there is several traveling around and placed in random places. Also, in the third doctor time, he was stranded, and could not leave so he traveled by automobile everywhere.
There were two cars one was a yellow car called Bessie One was a car that looked like a stingray ( I don't remember the name of the car but I heard Jon Pertwee bought it himself)
The trip to Earth was not the first outing. During "Edge of Destruction" the scanner shows several other planets the Dr and Susan had visited before picking up Ian and Barbara.
The only way that the extra dimension rule can make sense is if one room in the TARDIS is dedicated to the empty space of the original cylinder, with a similar door that opens into it. Then you can say that the entire dimension that is the inside of the ship fits within the door frame of its shell.
5:03 in all actuality, the T.A.R.D.I.S is powered not by a black hole, but by a star in the process of becoming one but has been put on pause, meaning that it will never reach the position of black hole. this star is known as the eye of harmony and each T.A.R.D.I.S has their own
It's a sci-fi romantic adventure story. A symbiotic love story of 2 beings very much more alien than they appear and completely beyond our ability to really understand. Think about how LONG they've been together and how interdependent they actually ARE.
The only thing wrong with the type 40 was the doctor's lack of piloting skills and empty data banks. as noted in the official comics, the 11th doctor is the one that jammed the chameleon circuit when 1st and susan were off delivering the hand of omega in 1963 As for the TARDIS's power source for time travel nuclear energy will also do, as third can be seen travelling to parallel earth after hooking the console up (outside of the ship) to a nuclear power plant and using a surprisingly small amount of power to travel
The TARDIS. The greatest piece of Time Travel Media for all of eternity. People who say the Dolorian is better just never understood how powerful even the oldest Type of those Gallifreyan Timecapsules can be. Also come on the TARDIS is the Doctor’s oldest and most trusted companion. Period!
The TARDIS also made a brilliant cameo in the sci-fi/fantasy show 'The Librarians'. When Flynn Carson has to travel back in time, he and the other Librarians head into the Time Machine chamber, where various iconic time machines are stored, and sure enough, Cassandra Killian lifts a cloth cover to sneak a peek at the iconic blue box underneath. The scene is even preceded by a musical homage to the theme of Doctor Who.
The TARDIS from ClassicWho was a purely defensive vehicle. It had a Chameleon Circuit, to disguise itself, and developed a huge outer shell to protect itself from overwhelming force (I forget what this was called, but it turned the exterior of the TARDIS into a cube- someone will no doubt recall...). In NuWho, it can turn invisible (which defeats the purpose of having a Chameleon circuit), and can generate a force field (though that might have been a one-off, due to additional, non-Time Lord equipment - I don’t recall). It has also been shown to be quite effective as a battering ram on several occasions. If Type 40’s can self-upgrade on return to Gallifrey, then Who knows what else the Doctor’s TARDIS can do, given the “advancements” the Time Lords made during the events of the Time War. Also, I wonder if, being sentient, the TARDIS can pick and choose what upgrades it receives, or if they are auto-installed?
I like the idea that while newer models of TARDIS, in the time war in particular, would probably have some kind of weapon capabilities, the Doctor would just ram things with it. No lasers, no photon torpedoes, just the sturdiest hull in the universe.
Paul McGann’s Doctor had a practical TARDIS by having a living room in the control room (somewhere to sit and relax between and during travels). I think I missed the TARDIS encounter in Fallout (because I don’t remember it at all), I only had the Star Trek Guardians of Forever encounter.
The T.A.R.D.I.S. was not in for repairs due to repair the Chameleon circuit. In fact, it was the Tenth Doctor who went back in time to disable the circuit to begin with. In his travels, The Doctor had come to realize that the Blue Box had become the symbol for a place to find emergency assistance during times of extreme crisis, for many different species and cultures throughout all of spacetime. The T.A.R.D.I.S. had essentially become The Doctor's personal "calling card" (and he wouldn't ever want it any other way).
It's interesting that the Doctor either didn't have a TARDIS or had a different TARDIS before the division wiped his mind. Back when they were the timeless child. Before the classical 1st doctor.
in the second episode of the first serial Susan mentions that it's been an ionic column and a sedan chair before. It wasn't the first trip out from Gallifrey.
Yes, the chameleon circuit did hold out for a LITTLE while after they left Gallifrey before conking out. And Six got it going again, for a little while, but it went right back to being a police box and apparently likes it that way.
Can't believe you didn't mention the chameleon circuit being repaired momentarily, as we see the TARDIS turn into a flowery cabinet and a pipe organ in "Attack of the Cybermen" (Sixth Doctor). Colin boasted that HIS Doctor is the only incarnation to repair the circuit!
Okay, get ready for some serious nerddom: 1) The TARDIS was not stuck in the shape of a police box forever since their first trip to Earth. In the 1985 6th Doctor serial "Attack of the Cybermen," the faulty chameleon circuit briefly begins working again, transforming the TARDIS into several random forms, including a wardrobe, a pipe organ, and a metal gate. 2) The Eye of Harmony was originally Gallifrey's power source, not the TARDIS's, as seen in the 1976 4th Doctor serial "The Deadly Assassin." In fact, in the classic series, the TARDIS was said to run on a mineral called Zeiton-7 ("Vengeance on Varos"). It wasn't until the 1996 TV movie that the Eye of Harmony showed up in the Doctor's TARDIS, one of the seemingly random changes the writer Matthew Jacobs decided to make (along with the Doctor being half human and the Master being some kind of space worm that can possess other people). The revival series picked up the Eye of Harmony change and ran with it afterward, but it was never explained how the Eye of Harmony went from being the power source of the Time Lords to the power source of individual TARDISes. 3) Newer viewers may not know this, especially if they're unfamiliar with the classic series, but the TARDIS has also been shown to include: a boot closet (which is actually an enormous, fancy living room where a single pair of boots are stowed), several bedrooms (we've only seen some companions' rooms, never the Doctor's, if they have one), a sensory-deprivation chamber called the Zero Room, a secondary control room with a gorgeous wooden motif, several shower stalls, and a swimming pool!
Don't forget that we've also seen a multi bed hospital, workshops, and what almost looks like a factory floor in just one Tom Baker episode where sontarans were chasing them through the TARDIS.
I would love to see metacrisis and Rose pop back with a grown TARDIS. Whole the scene was cut, perhaps the idea could still be used that either the Doctor gifted the piece off camera, or that metacrisis, knowing his fate, secretly grabbed a piece of the TARDIS. And the Doctor knew all along, having spotted the missing bit, but let it slide. While this absolutely won't happen on the show, an audiobook or comic is very possible..
Even if Meta-10 had a working TARDIS, it's not like they could pop out at any time in our universe. Not because 10th closed the cracks/borders/whatever, but because it was terribly dangerous/risky to cross them. Look at it, it was fairly easy to cross the border, as exactly that happened in the first place, when Mickey was told to hold some button for longer, than he should, because 10th forgot about it. The dangerous thing was that you might have ended up in the void between the dimensions. That's why 10th couldn't rescue Rose and had to leave her in Pete's world. He could cross the border, but would risk to fall into the void either right the second he crossed it, or later when returning with Rose. The risk was too big. So Meta-10 having a TARDIS would work just within the borders of Pete's world. Traveling throughout that universe, even through time, but again in that universe, not in ours.
There's also a subtle reference to the TARDIS in the KingsIsle game "Wizard101". However, due to copyright, it's not blue but red, it's a Telegraph box, not a Police box and the NPC that "owns" it is called the Professor, rather than the Doctor. Another fun fact, his "assistant" NPC inside the box is called "Rose Piper", which is also a subtle reference to the actress Billie Piper that played the David's doctor's companion, Rose Tyler. There are numerous pop culture references from The Beatles to Star Trek.
As you showed the title card for 'The Doctors Wife': By Neil Gaiman Didn't know this tidbit - but, for some reason I wasn't surprised in the slightest.
You mean an aspect of Clara, that the first Doctor didn't know yet at that time, imitating a random Gallifreyian, whom the Doctor maybe knew, or had seen sometimes? Yea.
If you think about it out of all the companions the tardis is the greatest. Its been the one constant in the doctors life and always there when he/she needs it.
Not always, 13th had lost her TARDIS for a whole episode. And I wouldn't say the TARDIS is a companion, in that sense, she's more like a vehicle, a home and a close friend (maybe more as suggested), but companions are people you can talk with and they answer you. Ok, not always people ... and not always humanoid even (yes, K-9, didn't forget him), but still. The TARDIS has many functions, but being a companion isn't one of those really.
It’s been stated a couple of times in New Who notably in Boom Town that the Doctor could probably fix the Chameleon Circuit they just don’t want to as they’ve grown fond of the shape which kinda makes sense
The eye of harmony is actually a little more complicated than described here. Not every tardis has one, in fact untill the 8th Doctor movie, no TT capsule had it. The eye of harmony was located on Gallifrey, and every Tardis was connected to it. I believe there's a story where the Doctor removes the eye of harmony from Gallifrey to protect it from the daleks.
@@blackphoenix77 No, the hand of Omega is something that would allow for the creation of something like the eye of harmony and the Doctor took that too and hid it in 1963.(remembrance of the daleks) The eye of harmony was definitly one thing during the fourth doctor's run when it was buried in the panopticon on Gallifrey. (The deadly assasin). I was specifically talking about some time war stories from big finish in my original comment though.
There is only one Eye of Harmony. Omega harnessed it and I think Rassilon housed it on Galifrey until for some reason Silvester Mccoy Doctor (Which would be 7 but for the constant reworking of which Doctor is which) for some reason (I've never seen the prose or listened to the audios) brought it aboard the TARDIS. There might be a link to it in every Time Capsule, but the Doctor has the one and only.
the navigation ISN'T broken, as the T.A.R.D.I.S says herself: "i always take you where your NEEDED" (sorry if i got that wrong, it's been a long time since i saw Doctor Who), in other words, yes, the Doctor has no control over where he goes, but that's only because the T.A.R.D.I.S takes him where he is needed
Tom Baker told Leela how the T.A.R.D.I.S looks bigger on the inside than the outside. And the T.A.R.D.I.S ran on Ziton 7 ore from Varos with Colin Baker. Before the temporal rift in Cardiff.
11 when Donna Noble became infected with the doctors intelligence ( only way I can think two phrase that) she did put out a way to fix the Chameleon Circuit
