4:17 apparently that line about the weather satellite was put in there purely because in the dome it logically should be perfect weather. But in typical UK fashion they knew the weather might not be perfect so that line is purely to cover any inconsistencies in the weather while filming
I didn’t noticed the racism until the last scene. Like blocking the doctor…yeah icl i might have thought that was spam. Ruby complimented her shirt and the bubble always moving too fast to not notice no people of colour. When she killed Ricky, my hatred for her went from her being annoying to loathing her and wishing the slugs killed her and the other survivors. Ricky only one who deserved to survive. Have to say this is by far my favourite of the series so far despite having her. Also R.I.P William Russel/Ian Chesterton
I was like 80% sure it was racism but thought it could also be classism based on how their society is presented but then the ‘Voodoo’ line was what confirmed to me that’s what it was about
The voodoo line is when I allowed myself to call it what was there to be seen from the beginning. I looked back and realized how engrained in white supremacy this society was that even there software had built in racial filters. Red warning signs only appear when for the doctor. Does that mean he knew from the beginning as he would have had to remove the racial filter code to appear normally. Hhhmmm
It's both, the classism is primarily directed at Ruby and the Racism to the Doc. The original idea would have been mainly (if not solely) about classism as this was originally a rejected (because budget) pitch for an 11th Dr episode.
He does at least have the 1 interaction with The Doctor and he didn't have the same facial expressions Lindy did. But that's still not enough evidence.
I mean, Ricky did greet the Doctor and Ruby with a friendly "Hi :D" and some people say that he was trying to prove his "superiority" to the Doctor saying that he knows how those type of codes work, but I think he was just really proud of himself, it was kinda cute even lol so, to me, RIP Ricky September :(
In the context of the episode, Ricky represents two things: A person who doesn't live in a bubble and, to Lindy, he was essentially the Doctor. Their interaction plays almost exactly like a text book Doctor-Companion meet cute. In that context, I think it's fair to assume that Ricky was a good one.
The Season 2 wrap party took place on the day "73 Yards" was released. Filming is done on S2 & Xmas 2024, so going forward we should have more Ncuti in future seasons. Hopefully an announcement will come later in the summer on whether Doctor Who will continue with the same Disney backing & help with (added) budget finance & International distribution into S3. Disney's initial agreement was for 2 seasons which are now done. So either I expect a new announcement later in 2024 or Doctor Who might go on a break & might be why they have filmed so far in advance & gives Ncuti a chance to film other projects or his desire to return to stage. Ncuti will play the lead on stage in Nov of 2024 in a stage production of Oscar Wilde’s comedy, The Importance of Being Earnest. The performance at the Lyttelton Theatre will last for 9 weeks, with performances starting on Wednesday, November 20th
@@fleason771 they have filmed so in far in advance to allow for a longer break for the actors without affecting the release schedule so we can still have the series on annually which was something RTD promised when he came in!
Dude, I'm old and black and I didn't get the racism right away. I thought it was just classism until I went back to the beginning and noticed that they were all a bit aryan, and it all clicked. Actually, most of the people that got it right away, that I've seen, were white. I think that's promising. 🖖😎👍
There were soooo many overt and subtle signs of racism and prejudice scattered throughout the episode: 1. Lindy was revolted and blocked the Doctor when he first appeared on her feed. 2. Lindy didnt block Ruby. She was more receptive to Ruby when she appeared on her feed. Lindy spoke to Ruby and believed her over the Doctor. 3. When the Doctor appeared for the second time on her feed, Lindy asked him if the monsters "have something to do with you" (she didnt ask Ruby this, just the Doctor) 4. Lindy told her groupcall to listen to the Doctor and that "i know this is wrong and after this is all over he will be so disciplined, i cant wait, and he doesn't look as stupid as he looks" (of course due to the color of his skin) 5. No person of color lived in Finetime 6. Lindy was shocked to learn that Ruby and the Doctor were in the same room together in such close proximity 7. Lindy told the Doctor "Didnt I block you? I knew it. I just thought you looked the same, but you're the same person I blocked. I was so right to hate you." (Implying all black people look the same) 8. When they met, Lindy told Ruby and the Doctor "Gosh, you two, this is strange." (meaning a white and black person working together) 9. And a few more microagressions towards the Doctor before they met in the final scene AND in the final scene where the racism got blatant.
To be fair, in a text only chat, I would also have blocked anyone starting a conversation the way the Doctor did. Nobody wants to talk to a deranged person who proclaims "the end of the world". Ruby did a lot better with her survey approach, and pleading that everyone else turned her down already. Most of the episode just felt like something, that was made ten years ago as a critic of the social media bubbles. And the racism was just added when they rewrote the episode for the current doctor.
Something I didn’t even clock until someone else pointed it out is that their society as a whole is clearly racist even down to the security system as shown by the Doctor appearing to Lyndi as unsolicited in big flashing letters when it didn’t for Ruby and it makes sense as to why the Doctor couldn’t enter the city in the first place
@@flaggerify I know, and? the planet’s people were/are racists. Anyone like that doesn’t deserve to live and they’ll never change. If they don’t want to end up in the ground early or a hospital bed (in the fictional case - eaten by giant slugs), they shouldn’t be bigoted.
The reason this and the last episode have featured so little of the Doctor is that Gatwa was still filming for Sex Education which overran so these two Eps were filmed first. It's a bit annoying but there really was no way around it but at least it won't be the norm.
I actually didn't mind these two episodes being in a row. They kind of fit together, like "Turn Left" and "Midnight" (although obviously not in the same way).
The 4 or 5 reactors i watched first (both UK & US) got the racism at some point, but I just watched Blind Wave and yourself one after the other. Was pretty shocked Blind Wave missed it as there's 4 of them, so I'll give you a pass. For me it was the "I thought you just looked the same, but..." that rang a warning bell, and from that point on I was looking for it, after which it became so obvious. But there is so much going on in every shot missing one line might make all the difference. The amusing thing is that there are people who complain about messages being so obvious and rammed down their throats (not you!) and then its done subtlely and they don't notice it... As for what other Doctors would do. Well, once you realise what the Finetime lots issue is, well, they'd just accept the help of the other Doctors and go with him. He'd save them and all would be happy without ever knowing the problem. Unless they were travelling with Martha, or Ryan, or Bill, or.... And think back to "the Macra Terror'. Lot's of parallels there.
Or........ each Doctor is a Time Lord and would have been rejected by them, but to different degrees. I think they'd have rejected the offer, its outside their proto-Dalek bubble. He/She is a total & complete outsider to them! They feel morally and physically superior to all the Doctor's Companions, many of them might not have been rejected as quickly as their Doctors. I think the Home World was like Scaro. The Doctor is unable to communicate directly to them by his lonesome. Ruby had to be there, and even then, she is not somebody they'd hang with in real life.
Exactly this. I'd love for Fifteen to meet up with Martha for a chat on some point. Maybe Fourteen too, because he looks like the Doctor did when it was her Doctor -- but they both _were_ that Doctor.
You mean an obvious cliched twist ? The twist isn’t about Lindy it’s about the audience & whether they realise what is going on or are totally oblivious until the end (as many reactors were)
@@nathanthomas5133 How is it cliched? We never see a generally nice person who is otherwise a racist in TV shows or movies. Name me one. They must exist. Most people were racist 100 years ago. Surely they weren't all evil.
@@flaggerify Regina Hoffman, a nurse on MASH whom Hawkeye is attempting to romance until she lets him know her feelings about a serviceman marrying a local girl. Not that I'm saying the nice character shouldn't be revealed as a racist or it's been so overused compared to the annoying person being racist. I have no stats on that. There are a lot of people who seem perfectly nice until you find out. I really feel the episode may be doing that with Ricky September. At least we don't really know about that and we have no assurance that just because he seems nice, he is brave, he helps our horrible protagonist, it means he hasn't absorbed some of the same viewpoints as the rest of his society. Gothic Paul realizes people are going missing when no one else in the group does. And he has a low subscriber count. Maybe he's different. We don't know.
I could see them being racist to Mickey and 9 just leaving them instantly. Then on the Tardis he'd be like "Ricky's an idiot but it's exclusive to him not his skin."
Dot and Bubble is an INCREDIBLY dense and intelligent story hidden behind a facade of vapid zoom callers, goofy slug monsters and the wham twist ending. There aren't just hints and subtexts to be found in the dialogue, there are implications and ramifications of a much broader picture and NONE of it is at all pleasant. There are no plotholes, there are no loose ends that don't have answers. When you start to figure it all out, even the question of 'where did the boat at the end come from' has an answer that will leave a bad taste in your mouth. At that point, you will know *exactly* how the Finetime survivors are going to die. Ricky's unstated purpose in being the odd-man-out who possesses genuine intellectual curiosity is a prod to the viewer to look beyond the bubble right in front of them - the episode itself. Step back from the microcosm, examine everything you see and hear, and peel away at the layers upon layers about the racism, then the white supremacy, then about the history of Finetime itself, how it came to be, and what that actually means. Once you start seriously thinking about it, you will never ever stop. So don't feel bad. Don't feel bad about *anything* you missed. That's Dot and Bubble informing you of what white privilege is, and it means it's done its job.
To be fair, I missed the racism on first watch, until the reveal that is. I initially thought the episode was more about elitism and upper class snobs playing influencer. In rich / upper class society it's more or less all white people in the UK. So to me it seemed logical to not notice any people of colour (cough, spelt correctly). I simply put the dismissal of the Doctor and not Ruby is that she came into the convo with a different tactic, make up an excuse to be there and appeal to their ego's, where as the doctor came in negatively. On 2nd watch knowing the ending, the facial expressions of Lindy Pepper-Bean were subtle but more impactful. From what i've seen of other people watching this ep, most people did not pick up on the white supremacy.
For me, the last 5 minutes were exactly what was missing in the chibnall era... outstanding, emotional, and spine tingling and with the great murray gold music....
