Doctor Who: Attack of the Cybermen - REVIEW - Cybercember 

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Mr TARDIS 20K subscribers As an American, I have to say that "Attack of The Cybermen" is still one of the most extremely dark and violent, brutal episodes I've watched. Also the Cyber Controller's very BRUTAL death is still a very satisfying Villain death.

@@jamieolberding7731 I think Attack of the Cybermen was too violent in trillions of ways and also much as the Cybermen as my top favourite returning villains in Attack they were treated like crap and not as well utilised like in Earthshock Tomb Wheel in Space the Moonbase or even the Tenth Planet the next Cyberstory Silver Nemesis was a waste of space .

@@Eltonlaleham But David Banks still nailed the role as the Cybermen Leader in all of his onscreen appearances as the Cyber Leader in Earthshock, The Five Doctors, Attack of The Cybermen, and also in Silver Nemesis too in my opinion.

"That sounds like another insult, Mr Lytton"

Same

Colin’s Doctor had potential as did his more strident tone. It was a welcome change from Davison’s timidity. However his ridiculous costume completely undermined this approach. Plus his manner with Peri was mostly awful. I have only taken in some of colins big finish but it seems pretty clear they did better a job of balancing 6s prickliness with some warmth but without contradicting what we saw from the tv series. Plus big finish’s writers are leagues better than what 80s who had to offer.

FINALLY! I agree

I definitely agree - when Colin Baker is allowed to act like his interpretation of the Doctor he's very charming in his arrogance. The biggest problem I had with the CB era was that the writers had him break character several times during his two season run (insanity, mind control, falsified evidence ,etc). The short-term insanity caused by regeneration sickness in the first two storylines were okay as it depicted a serious consequence of the 5th Doctor choosing to regenerate not knowing if he'd survive the process but beyond that it ruined the character and I think that this is one of the main reasons why CB isn't well regarded.

There is a version of TV!6 that I could see making his brashness and arrogance more appealing, but it's a version that is not serviced AT ALL by Season 22. There's a scene in The Two Doctors where he insults Peri's intelligence *well* beyond playful teasing and it's just so bad and gross

Jonathan Kennedy 1 year ago The thing about MOST Time Lords is that they are xenophobic, racist, non-interfering, LAZY, ARROGANT, BULLYING, JERKS who ONLY care about preserving their own lives instead of helping to protect innocents from the great many INTERGALACTIC THREATS (including the Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Rutans... etc). YESH.... at least the Klingons were far more helpful.

Pre-Hartnell Dr then?

*watches The Two Doctors* "Why are you doing more of this?"

@@benw4409 "I thought the violent scenes were awesome."

@@defrostedrobot77 it’s a reference to his old videos. Being Attack of the Cybermen review and Doctor Who is Cancelled

@@Dray1 Yeah, I know. My comment was connected to that.

Dray 2 months ago This was one of the most brutal scenes in Doctor Who. Star Trek also had plenty of very violent and VERY BRUTAL scenes.

Oh I definitely remember that review long ago.

I have faint memories of that I had no idea that was him!

I remember the "one for the dads" joke and was surprised to see the same joke pop up here!

It’s been a long long time since I’ve watched that review good times

Didn't he even do an audio commentary of that review as a bonus?

Revelation Of The Daleks is really good too.

If you take a long view of the series, Robert Holmes had set up the Time Lords are corrupt long before we got the sixth Doctor's era. He just finally got to bring that to the forefront and show us the fallout.

@@MichaelHickerson No not that. The Time-lords interfering and using the Doctor as a pawn.

Oh YES! DEFINITELY ANOTHER GOOD REASON this episode is so great! Nickola Bryant is a great actress and oh so BEAUTIFUL!

One for the dads! One for the dads!

That heaving bosom.......damn...

me to

I was thinking of that as well. Linkara does like his Cyber-jokes.

@@MrThorfan64 yes yes he do

@@MrThorfan64 "There is logic to what you said.' LOL.

"I will trap my Cybermen in the tombs of Telos, for always and always and always"

Did you really think that all this Easter Eggs would work, The Fat Controller laughed. "You Are Wrong."

And then the Fat Controller ate all of the pies.

It was time for the Doctor to leave. He had seen Dimensions in Time.

I think its bad form to basically body shame Michael Kilgariff for a rubbish joke. They didn't have to cast him but they chose to. Anyway how do you know what shape a Cyber Controller should be

Yes and I think the music for the heist scene parodies The Sweeney

@@android65mar Oh yeah...I think both references haven't aged that well, hence them being missed.

You dehty old mahn!

I'M A COMPUTER. I'M A COMPUTER-Y GUY.

At least he got his big break

Justice for my boy

And World enouth in time gets a free pass because?

My least favorite probably would be that from "The Next Doctor". PS: This Cyber-Leader is too similar to the normal Cybermens they should do something else with the design.

@@dustin_4501 I think that was just a standard Cyber Leader with extra changes.

@@Jedi_Spartan Yeah he is also call Cyber-Lord rather than Leader and he has a lower rank that "The Tomb Of The Cybermen" and "Attack Of The Cybermen" one but he still can be count as a Leader like the others.

So it does. The Cyber-Count! I think there was a Cyber-Dracula in audio.

@@dustin_4501 umm, the cyber controller wasn't in the next doctor. Did you mean the one from rise of the cybermen/age of steel?

Rimshot!

Well yes but didnt see it happen.

At this point it’s the official anniversary special.

@@highvoltage7797 It was basically that but then they redid it but poorly. I kind of get the theme of silver for 25 years but its really messy.

Met Colin Baker once such a lovely bloke

@@johngurnhill8743 he is for sure

I don’t think it’s that bad

If you take out any one aspect of that story, like the neo-nazi’s or some of the Pentiforte stuff I think it would have been more appreciated. It’s not a bad story, just not a very good cyberman story

Agreed!!!

My brother friend was in that episode

@@Ajmorrison2002 actually the best thing to take out would be McCoy as his portrayal of the Doctor is absolutely garbage then there's Ace who not only beats up Daleks singlehandedly making them look like pussies and she also does the same with the Cybermen. But wait a minute it's not tomorrow yet!

We were all thinking of Linkara. Is this the human condition of madness, Leader?

Lytton is the greatest companion who never was. Same as that assassin in Revelation of the Daleks. Six needed someone to challenge his bombastic and hypocritical code. JNT really missed a trick in having these two verbally sparring all across time and space.

Whoah! You've seen the original version of the script? Where can I find it?

Dare to see that is is better the Earthshock, dare to see beyond the mask of consensus.

Jason Statham played the Ninth Doctor.

@@garytwinem5275 That would have been amazing. "I had this arm sawn clean off by a Cyberman and had to re-attatch it, with this fuckin' arm"

@@DarthAzabrush Vin Diesel could be The Master.

@@garytwinem5275 And Vinnie Jones as the Valeyard "Doncha know who I am? I'm the Valeyard bitch!"

@@DarthAzabrush I think we're on to something here.

ALSO played by Michael Kilgarriff

Or Mary Whitehouse's favorite, the drowning scene in The Deadly Assassin.

Solon shoots Condo in The Brain Of Morbius. Goth freeze-frame drowning the Doctor from The Deadly Assassin. How about 2 guards dissolving in acid from Vengeance On Varos?

@@garytwinem5275 God, why did you have to remind me she existed. That woman was Nazi housewife masquerading as a critic. If she had her way, TV would be more sanitised than a bottle of bleach, and some of the darkest and most gripping dramas in the 80s would never have happened. Truly the death of art.

@@lewiskazinsky7334 Nothing boosted the next week's viewing figures like a Mary Whitehouse tirade. 🙂

Yup, I also want to see a Dark, Horrific, Violent, Tragic, Intelligent (the Philosophical Argument between the Doctor and Davros, which Davros...Wins...in Resurrection for example!) take on Who. Basically Saward Who in all its Brutality and Horror to sell just how Vile a thing war really is, and just how shamefully alike the Dalek's we actually are in our love of Chaos, as much as we try and excuse it by saying "we just want to see good vanquish evil" we are here for the Chaos, and we should be ashamed of that!, crossed with Big Finish in all its Intelligence, and its Bleak Tragedy (Spare Parts... that one is a Tear Jerker, as all the Doctor does to try and stop the Inevitable, just makes it Worse!, or what of I, Davros, which makes us Pity even Davros!) with the Sad, Broken, Tired, Worn out, Old "Warrior" Doctor that we saw in "Twice upon a Time" a man who has seen and done so many terrible things over his long life, and now wants nothing more than a chance to Die, but keeps on Going, keeps on Fighting (I want a Doctor like 3 6, 9 (War Doctor) and 13, one who can really Fight!) to ensure No One has to die before their Time! Sadly, the House of Mouse, the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corbynization, and their Hyper-Woke Puppets (Warning to my Readers, I am utterly Opposed to Extreme Left Wing Ideology, I consider it Extremely Dangerous to Social Morality, the Order of Law, and to Human Decency! and every bit as much a Threat to Morality, Order and Decency as Extreme Right Wing Ideology! I am utterly Opposed to both! there is only one Difference between a Communist and a Fascist at the end of the Day, and that is how you say the Name of their Evil Ideology of Choice! Sorry, when a Person thinks a Child "deserves" to die a Violent and Horrible Death, simply because their Parents think differently to their Extreme Left Wing Racist Bile, then their Place is in Prison! not in the Voice over Booth!) , have pretty much Denied us the Pleasure of a Truly... *Mature* Dr Who Series!

I love Attack, but Ressurection feels kind of messy and illogical to me, Revelation on the other hand is a great episode also by Saiward.