@@hanonhold Ruby has been calling him babes for a few episodes. Even Ncuti's Doctor called her that in the christmas episode. Clara never called Twelve babes
Man this was a signature Moffat Episode: - High stakes - Dark tone - Body horror - Direct quotes and references to his previous stories - Witty one liners blended with meta commentary - Militant Church - AntiWar rhetoric - S*x joke - Criticism of capitalism - Introducing a future companion ahead of time - Companion dies Even Ncuti and Millie’s lines sounded like they came straight from the Capaldi era
You know it's a good episode when you know the characters won't die but you're on the edge of your seat and things are so tense you can't stand it. Amazing.
Steven Moffat once again proving he's the best Doctor Who writer. He just gets the Doctor perfectly, it's insane how much different the dialogue feels and sounds, it straight up felt like Capaldi talking through Ncuti's mouth. It's such a shame that Jodie never got a Moffat episode.
@@flaggerify Okay. You're welcome to that opinion. Everyone likes different things. Though I am curious why you think it was worse than Space Babies, which I genuinely think was pretty awful and should not have been made at all, never mind being the season opener.
@@Drekal684 The landmine part itself was not very original, at least initially. Then there was the moralizing about arms dealing and the tone-deaf ending with the Doctor more happy with his rescue than being tactful with the people whose loved ones had just been killed. His hugging them before he left just made it worse.
It did sound like Capaldi talking through Gatwa's mouth, and I think that's a bad thing. Moffat has a very distinctive idea of the Doctor's personality, that's different to every other writer's/showrunner's ideas, and applying it to an incarnation who is otherwise being characterised differently to the two he created isn't good, it just creates inconsistency. I will say it didn't bother me too much in this episode, probably because the Doctor was under such extreme stress; him being a bit different in that situation makes sense. And on the whole the story was great, which for me is the main thing.
@@nevem5010 I like that it sound like Capaldi to some extend beacue he is "The Doctor" he's suppose to be the same person. So I don't mind it because Ncuti also clearly has his way of saying those dialouge that make it make sense for his incarnation and I absoluetly love it
There's SOOOO many moments that are gonna end up standing the test of time. "Everywhere's a beach, evetually" is gonna be quoted for ever more, and the whole "NOW you want proof, FAITH gal" is such a perfect moment - Ncuti absolutely nailing the role! Fab episode.
Villenguard is mentioned in the “are you my mummy” episode the doctor dances way back in season 1, the gun that Jack harkness has is mentioned as being from villenguard
On top of that you get the Anglican marines like in flesh and stone, and the fish custard. It’s full of little references without at all being reliant on it.
@@HollywoodandWine101 They also seemed very similar to the priests of the Papal Mainframe, the ones that created the Silence, so I guess this could be a situation where either they are the same religion or they are different religions fighting each other
Fun fact - this episode was the first time Doctor Who used digital background screens on set - the ones pioneered by shows like The Mandalorian! I remember reading that they were going to use it in this episode but forgot by the time of airing, and only remembered whilst watching the BTS show Doctor Who: Unleashed. To me, it was that seamless and perfect a use I NEVER noticed until after the fact and that's after knowing about it in advance before forgetting 😂
I love episodes that do a lot with a little. This episode was entirely carried by the dialogue and damn if Moffat doesn't know how to write compelling dialogue.
I don't understand why the little girl was given the IQ of a root vegetable. It kind of took me out of the drama when - even after establishing that there was an active mine that was about to go off, and that the hologram was in fact NOT her father - she was excited to watch the slideshow, 2 feet from the active mine.
I didn’t recognise her until I saw this comment 😮 do wonder if it will be the same character or something similar to Susan Twist playing someone new each episode. I feel so stupid for not realising 😭
What a surprisingly incredible episode! I wasn't expecting this episode to go as hard as it did. 😭 I guess I should expect this type of thing from Doctor Who. Going from a nice space baby's episode to a really cool episode with the musical number to the next episode being "TRAUMA!" 😭
This is proof that Moffat is really good at one-off episodes. I don't think he pulls off things well enough in season-long arcs but he never misses on singular (one or two episodes) stories.
I'm not sure, Boom was really good but nowhere near The Eleventh Hour, Beast Below, The Pandorica Opens, A Christmas Carol, The Impossible Astronaut, A Good Man Goes to War, The Angel's Take Manhattan, Day of the Doctor, Time of the Doctor, Listen, Last Christmas, Heaven Sent, The Doctor Falls and I'm just quoting the ones I just had on my mind
@@hothemeep1219 Yeah he has amazing bangers in his own run too, don’t get me wrong. Heaven Sent is on the top of my favorite episodes of the entire Doctor Who. I just think he is better at writing contained stories (like most of the examples you gave) than writing an overarching arc for a season. They don’t hit as hard for me the way his contained stories do. I just prefer RTD’s approach for bigger stories but I’m glad Moffat is around for contained stories too.
@@celescole9918 Most of my examples are actually heavily linked to the bigger story arcs though (except maybe A Christmas Carol) and that's partly why they work so well. But I got you, you have preferences. As for Moffat, I don't think he made a grounbreaking return with Boom. Don't get me wrong, it was really good (8/10) but I'm still waiting for an unexpected masterpiece like Holmes did when he returned for The Caves of Androzani. Something really different than what he already wrote
@@hothemeep1219 Yeah, they mostly worked for me because of their structure or emotional corr rather than their place in the bigger arc. But yeah, everyone’s got their preferences and I’m glad Doctor Who has a lot of variety to offer for everyone. And agreed! I think he can do a lot more, but it was really nice to see him back here.
This episode felt like definitive doctor who for me. The tone was perfect. Man Steven Moffat never ceases to impress. I think the performances from Ncuti and Millie are easily the best so far too. I love their chemistry. It felt like watching Clara and 11/12 again. I got some Amy vibes from Ruby too this time. This is and wild blue yonder are my favourite episodes of Doctor who in years.
They really bring back my favourite 2005 2006-ish era with RTD showrunning, and Moffat writing some of the best episodes, just like Tennant times. Gotta give it to RTD that knows how strong a writer (when NOT showrunning please) Moffat can be under him and for convincing him to come back. This has all the ingredients of a "Silence in the library" or "Blink", bringing out the best of the actors involved too, love to see it.
It honestly feels more like Eccleston era to me, with slight Tennant era vibes. But with Ncuti’s own flavor. Really loving the feeling I’m getting watching this season.
"What survives of us is love" is a quote from the poem 'An Arundel Tomb' by Philip Larkin. Towards the end of his life Larkin was indeed a "sad old man".
5:30 YES!!! RU-vid keeps recommending me to watch videos criticising this new season of Doctor Who and I'm like "Dear algorithm, what made you think that I would like to watch this videos when I'm clearly just watching videos that are positive about this season?"
For a lot of them I’ve been clicking the three dots and then “don’t recommend channel” - ones where the thumbnail and title make it blatantly obvious that they’re just anti-social-justice-warriors spewing hateful nonsense. “Going woke has made the show a complete failure, as proven by the number of people in the uk watching live as it was broadcast, 18 hours after it started streaming worldwide” 🙄 Also, did you know that not a single person has gone to Blockbuster and asked to rent this season on VHS tape!?! 📼
In the last episode Maestro blasted the sonic out of the Doctor’s hand & we saw it sparking so it may have been damaged. Also In a BTS video with RTD, Steven Moffat did day that the Doctor sometimes ‘even forgets his screwdriver if he hasn’t been using it recently’.
And Jamie in Outlander was based on the 2nd Doctor's companion Jamie McCrimmon (supposedly his adventures after the Timelords erased his memories of the Doctor and returned him to Scotland). The actor who played Jamie on Doctor Who appeared in the first season of Outlander.
Dunno if you lads have been watching Doctor Who since the revival, but Villengard(sp?) was first mentioned in the episode "An Empty Child" where the Doctor said he'd visited once. That episode was also written by Steven Moffat!
We’ve seen the Anglican marines a few times during Matt Smith’s run. The Weeping Angel episodes with River, and A Good Man Goes To War. Pretty sure they were also part of the Church of the Paple Mainframe.
Bottle episodes are some of Doctor Who's best - Blink. Midnight, this one. Though as RTD & Moff said on commentary of this episode it wasn't as cheap as they first hoped.
I absolutely LOVE that when the Doctor was talking about the drums he started singing the freaking *Brazilian Funk* beat! Brazil detected!!!! ❤❤🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I also get so many videos recommended to me about people hating on Doctor Who from the algorithm, and channels like this and Who Culture make me feel sane again, so thank you.
@@lolsnez7542 I haven’t seen anything that dishonors the shows legacy, and the writing this season has been far better than the worst the show has seen. Everytime there is a change of showrunner/doctor there is an outcry of people who hate the change but that’s the only thing that has kept this show alive. That’s is the legacy of this show. If you hate the change, stop watching and wait for the next change. But there’s a bunch of us who still love the show. Leave us alone, because you’ll never get the satisfaction of making us change our minds.
😊 1:00:00 since when has science fiction or fantasy not been about the criticism of society and the establishment. It’s always been about taking what is considered wrong and giving it a different face in order to make you think and realize what’s going on.
Just realized The Doctor didn't have his plot armor this episode. Kinda nice. I love it when the Doctor acts superior to humans. Calls us basically stupid but treats humans with love and respect.
This episode was incredible! We recognize the very beautiful pen of Steven Moffat. Millie Gibson is truly amazing as companion, Ncuti is a very good Doctor 🥰 This is definitely my favorite episode so far!
As a gay 10 year old fan/viewer in 1963, (one of the originals you might say 😎 This new argument, woke??? bollocks! I'm so glad it's caught up with real people. It's always celebrated inclusion, but now we include all and this doesn't hang right with some naysayers. Well all I can say to them is take your hatred elsewhere and don't watch. Sorted.
I loved this episode! The first one was fun, the second had great performances from all involved, but this had proper pace, drama, and tension (which Steven Moffat is great at. He’s my favourite Doctor Who writer). Excellent episode!
That's a wild theory but I like it! And it's certainly different than other ones I've seen. I'm not sure how that would relate to her being 3000 years old but it would be fun 😄
😊 what I particularly like about the way Moffat escalates his story is you think the doctor is OK because he counter balances the mine, but that’s only delaying the inevitable because the mine is going to go off anyway, so you are still on the clock. You’re just giving yourself slight breathing room which led to the ending where no matter what they were gonna do that mine was gonna go off. Brilliant absolutely brilliant.
Best episode so far. The level of ADHD in the characters though who can be distracted by anything & ignore someone who is in peril or DEAD is amazing. "Faith...the magic word that keeps you from having to think for yourself" no gun, but shots fired
Freddy Kreuger Fleshlight LOL. We saw the Anglican Marines a couples of times back in Matt Smith's era, Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone and A Good Man Goes To War
"the moon and the president's wife" that song is about the Doctor... Also, the idea of the church becoming a military organization was introduced by Moffat in the Time of Angels two-parter. Remember Angel Bob? Bob was one of these guys.
At first I was like what is going on what Doctor and Ruby are doing there? But than the whole idea that this whole war is against someone who doesn't exist that it is alogrithm it is was for war, dying for dying, victims for victims came and I was blown away. Genius, so brilliant, this appeal to our modern times and truly the prediction that it may be like that. Doctor was amazing in this episode his monologue was the best, witty, intelligent, aware. This episode was so intense with Ruby literally nearly being dead but so masterly. Wow
I really enjoyed the episode for the most part. There were points I didn't realize I was holding my breath until I exhaled in relief. I had to reflect on the comments about faith as I am a person of faith myself. I've never loved how Moffat's military are the Church, and there was a bit of a feeling in the script that faith is ok for kids (the daughter) but the adults (the soldiers) should know better. After reflection, I can respect that this is a depiction of how bad things can be when religion is too enveloped in worldly things and principles, like war and financial profit.
So many critiques of the young actress but what if the child is with the father due to a neurodiversity such as ADHD/ASD which would explain why the father felt he needed to bring her into a war zone.
😊39:00 oh my God, yes I totally forgot about the ambulance and the algorithm, and I know you guys know about algorithms😂, the fact that it’s not cost-effective to treat injured patience. The easiest thing to do is just get rid of them. It almost sounds like a jab at the healthcare system, possibly? “ oh, so sorry it’ll cost too much to treat you here let’s send you to another hospital”😮😮
This episode was phenomenal! Best of the RTD 2 era in my opinion. I forgot that when Stephen Moffat isn’t writing his own long-form story, which he’s kind of bad at, when he’s just writing episodic one-offs, he’s a fantastic writer. This is some of the most Doctor Who-esque dialogue we’ve ever had. It was filled with so much tension. My shoulders still hurt. And it was filled with all of Moffat’s classics: religious soldiers, evil robots, faltering tech. And it finally felt like Ruby had a defining moment as a companion in defying the Doctor by handing him the casket and not tossing it. I also loved the inclusion of the “Skye Boat Song.”
The sonic screw driver got blasted out of his hand by the Maestro, it was fried. The Doctor isn’t known for his expedience so fixing it wasn’t high on his list of things to do, it will show up when he needs it to
I enjoyed this episode I lot and I think Ncuti got some brilliant moments but gosh the amount of times I went "THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR THIS" was pretty high 😂😂😂😂 my dude's on a land mine balancing on one foot "hmm so where are we? What a beautiful sky.." LATER RUBY...LATERRRRRR
the religious soldiers reminded me of the ones with the Headless Monks in "A Good Man Goes To War". we are loving it! and Ruby! more and more of her lore's evolving and i am genuinely intrigued.
A producer on this episode acknowledged some scenes were cut, it's possible a scene explaining away the Screwdriver was cut and they never explained it in another scene.
I loved this one he probably left the sonic screwdriver in the Tardis he did that in the Tom Baker era a few times, it's a easy way out especially in the new era.
i don't think they forgot the sonic screwdriver (unless if it WAS in the tardis) but if it was in his pocket they wouldn't be able to get it - he can't move a muscle and if she were to take it out of his pocket, the weight would be off
Not even mentioning the sonic screwdriver in this episode was such an odd choice, considering Villengard is literally where he gets the sonic from in the first place. Writing it out of this episode for plot would have made sense, but it wasn’t even mentioned. I honestly think they meant to write it out and maybe just forgot about it.
It said ruby was old because its in the future. It said "calender age". It was based on her birthday. It doesn't matter that this is a different planet. Theyre future humans, it checked records.
You know, Series 14 is really showing a running theme about family so far. Ruby with her adopted family and foster-sibling Lulubelle in Church on Ruby Road, Jocelyn and the titular Space Babies in Space Babies, the dynamic with Mundy, Splice, and John Vater/his AI counterpart still trying to help his daughter even when he's dead. The Devil's chord is a bit of an outlier, I'll admit, due to focusing on the new villain.
