Doctor Who - Fury From the Deep - Victoria's Goodbye 

I hate how the BBC wiped the episodes that mattered the most. It's ridiculous.

The worst of it all might be that he no longer remembers her. The Time Lords wiped his memory, and he can only remember his first adventure with the Doctor. And Victoria wasn't there. She'll remember him, but he'll forget all about her and there's not much hope that they'll ever see each other again.

I was fond of her too, Jaime. RIP Deborah Watling.

I wish we could actually get to watch all of these amazing Patrick Troughton stories :-(

It’s so rare to see the Doctor and his team relaxing. When they do...it’s so nice to see. Shame that we’ve lost this.

I'm crying because: 1. This is sad. 2. They don't have the complete episode so we can see it. 3. My heart goes out to Jamie. I ship Jamtoria! OTP forever! 4. This is the last of Victoria.

Even though this story has been animated now I still hope that episode 6 and other parts of this story will turn up someday

What makes me wanna cry is we'll probably never know whether the kiss was on the hand, cheek, forehead or lips. MY LIFE IS A LIE!!!!

Victoria can't be blamed for deciding to stop travelling in the TARDIS with the Doctor & Jamie after seeing a lot of monsters which scared her so much.

Aww poor Jamie. I love him and Victoria.

This is my favorite companion departure up to this point. And the most well-invested one as well. It was not all of a sudden. But it is so very sad.

RIP Deborah Watling. Goodbye, Victoria.

I hear it in both their voices...if this were in motion I just know it would break my heart even more

In 1988 Fury from the deep episode 6, (THIS EPISODE) was found in Viller's house cupboard found by Ian Levine (I think), sadly, the film can didn't have the tapes within it.

Oh Jamie all you had to say was I love you :(

“One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine.”

This is the big one, the most interesting missing episode for me. I have the surviving clips but let's hope it turns up in Kenya or Australia or somewhere.

I must be a man and watch this without crying. One viewing later..... (EYES WELL UP WITH TEARS) WHYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

Deborah Watling was to appear in the five doctors but had to work for a different show. Sadly, the show was canceled and Deborah lost two shows.

a great, and genuinely chilling, Who story...a travesty it was wiped along with so many from Troughton era

I wish the BBC hadn't wiped away this episode. I understand it seems unlikely we'll see those episodes again, but I'm sure they'll be found one day. I mean, it was the same for The Web of Fear and The Enemy Of The World, they were presumed to be lost forever until they were finally found.

You've got to feel sorry for Jamie. He's in love, poor fellow. You can tell he's nearly goin gto cry.

Broadcast 50 years ago today! RIP Deborah

From the audio, I can tell this is a heartbreaking scene

Can someone at a convention PLEASE ASK FRAZER if it was a kiss on the lips or cheek or forehead, THE FANS NEED TO KNOW!!!

It would've been good to see Victoria Waterfield later on and to see her reaction at seeing the Doctor in a new form and her reaction about what happened to Jamie.

JAMIE JUST TELL HER YOU LOVE HER! lol

If she lasted longer, she and Jamie would possibly leave in the invasion and get married

@tellymad649 And the depressing thing is that he's going to forget she even existed!

I wacthed a documentry and someone said that when they cry it was all real tears from eveyone

I wish they would officially animate the missing episodes.

MY HEART.

I wasn't really a fan of Victoria, but I must admit, her goodbye scene is very moving :'$

Proof that we don't need sweeping orchestral music drowning out a scene to stir our emotions (yes, Murray Gold, I'm looking at you!). :-)

I remember watching this as a child. I was absolutely spellbound by the whole thing.😀

I think the real reason why she left was that Deborah Watling found her character to be patronized and also her stories were always on Earth. The only different planet she went to was Telos in the tomb of the Cybermen. All of her stories were on Earth. Also, Victoria was a very scared character.

Well, in the original script for "The Three Doctors", Jamie was supposed to be with the 2nd Doctor, and have a little bit of a romance with Jo, but Frazer Hines was unavailable for it, which was a real shame.

Victoria returned for the 30th Anniversary story Downtime, she was in charge of the Great Intelligence and Sarah Jane and the Brigadier teamed up against them

What the BBC needs to do is to animate all the missing stories! I don't care if it's not financially prudent to do so, they owe it to the fans that have supported the series for over 50 years and to correct the horrid mistake that they themselves had made years ago!

Jamie should've said he loved Victoria before he left cause it would've been soo sweet and she might have come with them in the end! But it would be a bit awkward if Victoria met Zoe I guess.....

Thanks for posting- I wish there were a bit more of her, she was quite contradictory - sometimes an orphaned Victorian young lady and sometimes something stronger and almost unconciously hotter.

She was so cute

Victoria's parents must've had friends before she got kidnapped the Daleks to make her father lure the Doctor & Jamie into a trap. If they did,they must've wondered what happened to her and her father after finding out that they disappeared without a trace and never to know that she chose to travel with the Doctor after her father saved his life at the cost of his own.

from Jamie's perspective he never met Victoria, so he doesn't feel any heartbreak and like you said Victoria will probably never see him again so she is unaware of this, but still its sad of course there is the whole Season 6B thing but I wont go into that!

Love this it's amazing that we have the telesnaps and audio for all the missing episodes but such a shame we don't have the original transmission

@Smallvillenerd Come on be fair we did all see the chemistry form with that one, anyway what makes the new version better (in my opinion) is the fact that there are chemistries between the characters at all.

Temporarily. I believe in Season 6B (it's the only explanation for the Five Doctors and the Two Doctors), and we are given no indication that Jamie's memory was wiped a second time at the end of it.

Powerful very emotional - thanks for posting as I'd never seen (nor heard!) Victoria's goodbye scenes. & for the post below, actually in "The Two Doctors" it would have been perfect to set the time here but they messed it up IMO saying Victoria was away studying "graphology" and even worse, making it so the Doctor and Jamie are oenly discussing the Time Lords - before the War Games! Very sloppy continuity for The 2 Docs - and it has given birth to many theories to explain it -S6B for ex

Victoria sure felt sad as she saw the TARDIS going up in the air from the surface of the sea before it dematerialized and that she will miss the Doctor & Jamie.

When I heard this scene I had tears in my eyes. 😭😭

How did the BBC select the tapes for wiping? I mean what idiot decided to keep crap like "The Krotons" and junk classics like "Fury from the Deep"?!

Awww Jamie and Victoria (

I wish that someone had the footage and would share it with the world

wonder if Victoria would still be there now?

Just watch this episode I have to say I’m really gonna missed Victoria Waterfield she’s one of my favourite companion in the 2nd doctor era. 😢 rip to Deborah Watling I know 6 years late but want to say thank you and hope your in a better place now.

Damn. This is a poignant scene to say the least. And the first (and probably last!) time i've seen it. Jamie seems utterly heartbroken & in despair, as he realises there is nothing he can do or say to make his crush stay with them. And the Doctor was not ready to make the first move in raising his suspicions; allowing her the freedom to admit her needs of a fixed time, a home & an identity. The part which really makes this hurt though is without a doubt the fact that she had to wrestle with herself for a sleepless night to tear herself away from her Father figure she found in the Dr & Jamie who she knew had feelings for her from the start. The bit that really dug the blade deep though was how she was concerned that they might "leave in the night without saying goodbye" - treating her like the many a inconsequential passerby from their travels, as a result of her fearing she's offended them in some way. Lastly, in one of my many books, there was an admission that Deborah Wattling & many of the cast & crew cried themselves to sleep after the final shoot that night. Because for them, they were very accustomed to each other & grew fond of her. Sadder still is how the BBC burnt this story thinking it was not worth a re-watch. Sad indeed.

wasn't she beautiful..so fresh faced and innocent...much better looking than the females in star trek...her Sarah Jane..Romana..Leela are all brilliant...so sad about Sarah Jane..Victoria and Romana....

The reason so many Patrick Troughton stories in particular are missing is because the BBC had a lot of trouble selling them abroad. When he took over the role, it was decided to make his first story a Dalek one to ensure maximum attention. By the late 60s, Dalek creator Terry Nation was trying to sell the Daleks to US TV stations as a stand alone series. To make them a more attractive proposition, he withdrew permission from the BBC for their use. This had the knock on effect that overseas broadcasters were reluctant to buy Troughton's series as there was no introductory story for him. There was also increasing criticism from viewers at home that there were too many repeats, especially of black and white shows when colour TV became more popular. Therefore there was no money to be made from the shows and there was no idea of them being of cultural interest, they were dumped.

Jamie and Victoria definitely loved Victoria

BRING BACK VICTORIA!!!

@NyeTunes Yeah, She ended up picking locks and getting up to all sorts.

Yep! Except for maybe The Three Doctors and Time Crash, multi-Doctor stories rarely seem to fit into continuity at all.

Did Jamie and Victoria kiss? If they did it would be so sweet

I remember watchig this, God I feel old, think Zoe came in next

The Two Doctors has to be worst of all. Another question, in the Three Doctors, where are the Second and First Doctor's companions during all this?

@ZipZagginGallifrey British Sci-Fi in general is soapy and always has been, since the early days of things like Quatermass

Bye Felicia!

If Victoria had gotten married sometime after she decided to stop travelling with the Doctor and Jamie in the TARDIS after all those monsters she had seen, would she tell her husband where she comes from or not and even her children?

@ZipZagginGallifrey Yes, it's great but so is old Who!

I don't like S6B. It ruins the ending of the War Games which I love even though it's heartbreaking.

@borgduck ...WHY WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ;A;

I don't like Victoria much, but I felt sorry for Jamie (who I

Are there plans to animate this one?

The old series still has plenty of good stories for all its campiness. That's why I find the loss of video to these early episodes to be a bit of a mixed blessing, actually, as the reconstructions--particularly those narrated by Frazer Hines--leave a lot to the imagination, which makes them better, in a way, than the originals. Not that I hope they never find the missing episodes. I certainly hope they do. But at least the audio tracks survived, so we can still enjoy these great stories.

Jamie and Victoria were a good couple but Jamie and Zoe were better

Ummmm... Time Lords did it?

cool theory and all but I have another theory, the writers of all the multi-Doctor stories f*cked up!!!

Oh season 6B... Robert Holmes really liked to fuck with continuity, didn't he? At least, whatever little continuity Doctor Who has. I did like the end of the War Games so my head canon is that they were pulled out of time (which led them to rapidly age) and made to believe that they were still traveling together. Then the Time Lords wiped their memories of the whole Two Doctors adventure, de aged them, and sent them back to wherever they had been originally. Because Time Lords are assholes.

The second doctor stories were an absolute wreck I mean we're talking budget cuts issues with actor strikes and timing and holidays they removed episodes from serials the bbc were facing quite a crisis in the troughton era thats why my second doctor collection is short because for me there isn't much to go on I never did like 2,5,6,7 because I felt they were crap don't judge me