Doctor Who's Literal Clickbait Episode 

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How can you say The Doctor's Daughter, an episode that featured the Doctor's daughter, was clickbait, when Let's Kill Hitler, an epsiode where no-one killed Hitler, is right there

We can justify Jenny being born with clothes in a multitude of ways, but how the hell are we going to justify her being born with perfect winged eyeliner?

I wonder how awkward it is between David and Georgia when their kids watch this episode and hear her call him Dad.

I always love that it is Donna who figures out the numbers. She is always thinking she is useless and not special but as you pointed out in the last video she is very ordinary and is a person who has worked in normal jobs like in offices or in a library meaning that she just picks up on these little things that lead her to the answers. She is not a soldier like Jenny or a doctor like Martha and she thinks she will never be like the Doctor but that's what makes her amazing. she has the kindness that allows her to make the human connections and the street smarts and real world experience that allows her to notice these key things like the empty file in the Sontaran two parter and the numbers in this episode. Martha is busy trying to get back, The doctor is busy dealing with all his feels so she is the only one truly observing. Donna is brilliant.

I thought the title would be 'Remember when David Tennant's wife was his daughter?'

"because he's so against genocide after committing plenty of his own" damn you didn't have to come for ten like that

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It gets depressing constantly hearing people call episodes that you like "the worst of the series" 😔😭

It’s cool to see that series 4 doesn’t have a “defending the despised” episode

For some reason, I think my favorite part of this episode (besides the David/Georgia situation) might actually BE the B plot with Martha and the Hath she befriends. Considering she never intended to come on this adventure, I think it's cool that we get to see her have to tap into her old companion instincts when she's separated from the Doctor & Donna. Plus, I like that she's able to communicate with the Hath as she's searching for a way out, and gains their trust after healing the one who eventually follows her outside the compound. And damn, even though we only knew that Hath for a short time, his sacrifice to save Martha from the tar pit always felt really deep and emotional (helped along by Freema's fantastic acting as she helplessly watches him drown). He was initially hesitant about leaving, but decided to accept the risks that would come from following her into the outside world. In the end, he just wasn't fully prepared for the dangers that lay outside his home, but he still managed to return the favor by saving Martha's life before he died. #JusticeForHathCompanion

Most notable quotes of this episode: "HATTHHH." -Tenth Doctor "Her name's MARTHA, and she's not collateral damage, not for anyone. Have you got that, G.I. JANE?!" -Donna Noble

I wanna see the doctor just get fed up with getting separated from companions so he just gets one of those leash’s you see parent using on kids at Disney World.

I don't dislike this story, it's entertaining and has some interesting moments. I just wish they'd had the guts to have her be a temporary companion for a few episodes and give us time to explore this new companion alongside Donna and the Doctor in the Tardis. Imagine for a moment if she'd stood alongside them in Unicorn and Wasp and SIlence in the Libary and then as a means to save the Doctor she sacrificed herself on the planet Midnight. It's a dark ending sure, not one even I'm sure off but it's an interesting avenue to go down and show new sides of the Doctor. Honestly I just hate shows and this does include Doctor Who where the need to get back to the status quo quickly and convienently takes away some of the drama. Funnily enough I prefer the original ending where Donna helps the Doctor greive and from what I assume in that scene she is still dead.

The ending of this episode is SO powerful, with some incredible acting from Tennant. This whole episode does a great job at highlighting the misery and pointlessness of war. It's so touching to see the Doctor learn to accept his newfound daughter but then heartbreaking to see her die so needlessly.

At least it’s not The Next Doctor- the ultimate clickbait episode

Don't forget the pre-applied make-up

I honestly didn’t realise that people thought that this story was weak. I love this one as much as the rest of series 4!

I’d say ‘The Doctor’s Wife” was much more of a clickbait episode.

Despite her limited run as a companion and coming back a few times after, Martha is by far the best companion in terms of being a good person. Smart, skilled, empathetic, brave she's seriously the best and I wish I appreciated her more when I first watched Dr Who

I think that The Doctor found out offscreen at some point that Jenny was alive, because when Clara is pretending to be him in Death In Heaven , she references Jenny in the present tense rather than the past tense.

i think marth's b-plot does a good job of making us sympathise with the hath as well as the humans, so we dont think of them as 'the enemy' or want to take sides in the war

I never realised the Doctor's line to the Metacrisis Doctor in the finale was referencing Jenny. For some reason I thought he was talking about himself, the regeneration from 9 to himself.

laser Grid + early 2000’s = back flipping through laser grid

"They're fighting for something called the sAuCe" Ah, just like a reddit comment-section.

I think people hate this one more for the dishonest/clickbait-y title rather than the episode's actual content

How the heck did Martha get 5 episodes as a companion in the season immediately after she left

29:24 - I'm like Donna in that regard. Traveling with the Doctor would be SO much more exciting than my current life. But like Jack said: "Being with the Doctor, you don't get to choose when it stops...whether she leaved you...or you leave her." And that doesn't even consider the many ways in which you can leave, many of them tragic.

I never thought of Doctors daughter as a bad episode, in fact, when I heard for the first time, that it is not very beloved in the doctor who community, I was extremely surprised. In my opinion, it doesn't even have to hide behind other stories of its season, even though season 4 is one of the best of the new series. My only complaint is that Jenny does survive in the end. To me, this scene felt very unnecessary as the doctor never finds out about it. It felt like a typical Moffat ending, without being a Moffat episode, so to me, it feels very out of place. But I can easily overlook this as this scene was very short and doesn't infect the overall story, So all in all, a very good story, very underrated.

Did Harbo seriously say *"YEETED"* ?

28:36 Don't forget the infamous mistake of the studio light on the left of the camera shot, behind the Tardis controls. Maybe the light could come along on those extra adventures too... Murray Gold's score was beautiful to listen to in this episode with The Doctor's Daughter and The Source for Jenny's birth and death. My other soft spot of this story is it's another episode with the Doctor's blue suit which stands out well against the colours of the dark scenery and green vegetation.

Harbo, i'm not sure you're aware of this but Georgia (the actress who plays Jenny) is the daughter of Peter Davison and is married to David Tennant

Yeah, The Doctor being adamant on the point of Jenny only being an echo of the Time Lords and that she is not one herself becomes so ironic after "The Timeless Children" where it turns out that the Doctor is not themselves a Time Lord, but a being of unknown origin whom the Time Lords spliced the ability to regenerate from, and for additional irony, Jenny as a result is the only person in the universe who actually is like the Doctor.

I’ve always thought who similar the scar from the progenitor machine Is to the Empty Child scar! Obviously no connection but a nice Easter egg.

always been a personal favourite episode of mine, just found jenny so cool and charming -- i wanted to see more of her (and still dlo!)

My favourite fun fact about this episode: not only do the Hath have lines in the script, but someone was on set shouting out their lines when they speak. It’s just a small fact that always makes me giggle when I watch the episode.

The alien who help Martha always break my heart :[ Martha was awesome here, truly an Doctor, it's amazing to see characters like this using their title skills on the adventures. And not just being an empty title like Yazmin Khan being a police officer and barely acting like one

Ngl the hath dieing always brings up artex memories 😭😭

I loved the Doctor's Daughter episode since it showed who the Doctor is, the things he has lost and why how he loves to show the universe to who he is travelling with much like a parent does to their children. Once he accepts Jenny is his daughter he is excited to have a family again, someone who can follow in his footsteps and carry his legacy only to lose her like his former family. The heartbreak he goes through is the start of his wanting to become a god to stop from losing people he cares for as seen in Waters of Mars.

I always liked that it was the best temp in chiswick that figured out how long they'd actually been fighting.

I really like the bit with Donna and the Doctor talking about his family and some bits from this episode, its not a great episode but it has some good moments. Also at least David and Georgia met out of it, so good for them.

Weakest of the series but not as bad as everyone says but without this we wouldn't have gotten 'Staged' and that wouldn't have been good

The stuff you mentioned about regeneration being in the Doctor's dna all along, thanks to The Timeless Children is also similar to a situation in Torchwood, where in Day Five of Children Of Earth, Jack's grandson dies because the immortality isn't passed down to Jack's children/grandchildren, yet in Miracle Day, Rex survives being shot at the end because he had Jack's blood transfused with his own.

This episodes is very snazzy. Don't understand how others dislike it. It's just nice and even if it is weaker overall, it's got some great moments like the doctor talking about Galifrey in the prison, or the doctor talking about his old family, or the doctor holding the gun to Cobb's head, or Donna describing their adventures, or Donna working out the dates or Martha being sad over the mute Hath friend. Honestly just good.

Martha's Hath dying was the saddest moment in the entire show's history

Martha is a Doctor, she doesn't need His encouragement to help those who need help. First, do no harm. Martha will help anyone, regardless of species, who needs medical help. I love Martha as an equal to Sarah Jane as the second best companion after Donna. Have you ranked companions? Donna Sarah Jane / Martha Jones Leela / Romana Susan / Ian / Barbara Rose

I love this episode, not just the incredible twist, but because its how Tennant and Georgia Moffett met, So we can say that the Doctor's daughter met the Doctor while playing the Doctors daughter, married the Doctor then had the Doctors daughter.

Never understood the hate this episode gets. I LOVE IT! When I was a kid watching this for the first time, I didn't see what the episode was called before the cold opener, so I didn't get clickbaited. Overall, I just love how this episode touches on the Doctor's past subtly without revealing anything, exploring that ONE prior mention to Rose about how he once had a family. It reminds you of the history of the character despite his age. Then when Jenny dies (Ummm...Spoilers XD) I love the tense moment where it seems as if he is going to kill Cobb ( *Or As You Put It Corn On A Cobb XD* ), only to say "I never would" and throwing the gun away in such disgust, again epitomising the resilience of the Doctor. Despite all his pain, he still continues to remain a good man. Plus yeah, the similarities between the Doctor and Jenny exploring the Doctor's time as a soldier, and the Doctor's speech about Time Lords are HOLY! The episode has *layers* ! Also, 30:14 *LMAO*

The ending of Donna's story with the doctor broke something in me I'm gonna cry again when u analyse this episode :(

Gotta love the aunty donna clip in the middle!!!

I always hoped Jenny would return because she had enough time lord DNA so Jenny could return even if David’s wife didn’t want to return. It would be a great episode. If Chinbail does revisit Jenny I hope he doesn’t screw the episode up.

I think the trio of The Doctor, Martha and Donna could have a good chemistry and I would have liked to see more off-world adventures with the three. Martha’s similarity to the Doctor would give a good dynamic between her and Donna in tense moments. I wish we’d seen more

Really bad example of "hypocrisy" being against something that you did in the past isn't hypocrisy, its growth

Somewhere in here, I feel like there's a good moral tale about war, but it's just bogged down by too many plot elements.

One thing that I never noticed in this episode is that when Jenny steals the shuttle, just like how it reflects the doctor stealing a tardis, the shuttle has these round things on the walls. Just like the original tardis. I think both that scene and the design of the shuttle's cockpit were meant to reflect the doctor.

This whole episode takes part in proving Chibnalls "Timeless Children" is garbage

I love the idea of him becoming a god to this society, that’s something I’d never really thought of before but it makes so so much sense

I have to disagree. Jenny DID regenerate, she was used to show that the doctor could regenerate WITHOUT changing as he ends up doing in the season finale.

Honestly? this has always been one of my favorite episodes and I don't understand why people call it the weakest one of this series. it's fun with just enough heavy stuff for me to enjoy

I'll be honest Harbo I don't give a shit about Skillshare

I always thought that if they really had to make the doctor a woman instead of retconning the entire time lord race they should have just killed the doctor off and had his daughter take over instead. Could have even had parts where she makes it clear that she isn't the same character as the doctor and did things her own way, but still carrying on the pacifistic spirit of the doctor. Couldve had her meet the doctors old enemies and have her own interactions with them, using their opinions of the doctor against them. So many possibilities, which will never be utilised because BRAND

I personally love this episode. Not only because I adore Jenny, but I also think it’s a phenomenal exploration of war’s pointlessness, and some of the best characterizations of Donna and Martha and showing their worth completely outside of being The Doctor’s companions. I don’t consider it weak at all.

If River Song can regenerate, Jenny absolutely can. She's at least 80% Time Lord while River's at least 80% Human.

Damn good point about Jenny's clothes... When the meta crisis spawns, Donna remarks "You're naked!" They could have filmed Jenny's legs and shoulders.

This is such an underrated episode! The twist with the dates is one of my favourites of the whole show. And the "I never would" scene is just iconic.

I like how this video's title was the clickbait, rather than the episode

Martha Jones did not come by her compassion and dedication to the well-being of her patient through her association with the Doctor. She’s a physician in training when she meets the Doctor. Yep, all of the Martha Jones episodes are about a pair of docs.

Posting this on a bunch of your videos to help metrics: Thank you so much for making this series. Doctor Who was my favourite tv show as a kid, and was literally the only interest that every member of my family had in common, so it was very special to us growing up. Watching all your deep dives into each of the NuWho episodes has been a very nostalgic experience for me, so thank you thank you xx

I liked the irony of the line about genocide being committed 'over my dead body!' by the doctor

anyone else always assume mark gatiss made eleven kiss jenny in the crimson horror to make sure nobody thought it was the same jenny

Interesting theory "Last Thursdayism". Imagine you could create a false set of memories and put them, say, in a pocket watch....memories of regenerations which never happened, and fantasies of a "Timeless Child"....

So this episode i think could of benefitted by being a two parter cause it feels like everything is a little bit rushed and stuffed. I think it needed more time to flesh things out a little bit. I would of liked to have his daughter stay on and become like a 4th Doctor/Romana tutoring esq relationship. Like him teaching her about things she might not understand. The doctor, donna and jenny could of been a interesting tardis trio and what could of been. This episode is very meh and each series has a weak episode and unfortunately this is this series weakest

The Doctor's Daughter has some wonderful ideas in it, but ultimately nothing hangs together. The war lasts generations, but that turns out to be just a few days. Brilliant idea. Fantastic, really diverting concept. But in terms of the storyline, what difference does it make? It's revealed as though it's the path to getting the Doctor and co out of the hole they're in, but instead, it turns out to be just a quirk of the war. It doesn't alter how anything is resolved, and plays zero role in how the Doctor wins the day. It would have worked better if both sides were searching for a member of the original crew of the ship, because only the original crew know how to release 'The Source'. The original captain, say. The Doctor will haughtily sniff at the religious overtone of it, insisting to the soldiers that the captain must have died long ago. But then the Doctor gets caught out at the end when he and the others ACTUALLY FIND THE CAPTAIN STILL ALIVE but injured, because it turns out that he only crash-landed on the planet the previous week. Martha gives the captain some much-needed medical treatment, and then, once he's recovered enough, he can then release the powers of the Autobot Matrix of Leadersh-... er, I mean of the Source. That would have meant the pay-off at the end of the plot is a real turn-up as a result of the war's briefness, plus it would give Martha a functioning role relevant to the plot. As it stands, Martha shouldn't even be in the story, it has nothing to do with her, and her sideplot is irrelevant. It could have been made important if the Hath had not been killed on the surface, and had reached the Doctor with Martha. The rest of the Hath could have had the Doc, Donna and Genny cornered, say, but Martha's friend intervenes and persuades its comrades to spare them. Without that, the Martha sideplot is utterly inconsequential and just feels like padding crowbarred in to fill out the story to 50 minutes. As I say, with just a few bits of tinkering, this could have been a genuinely quality story. Instead, it's just a few beguiling ideas on the periphery of a very basic and linear plot.

The only problem i have with the ending is not never being revisited by the series.

2:35 Aw yeah try get that Broden gif past me unnoticed huh? 17:13 OOH WE PLAYIN LIKE THAT HUH

The whole 'generations' thing would have worked a lot better if Cobb had been as young as everyone else. The fact that he's old begs the question, why doesn't he know the truth?

One thing that never gets talked about is Cobb's age. The conflict has supposedly only lasted 7 days, with everyone forgetting due to the huge turn over of casualties. This is all backed up by the fact that all the soldiers are young, showing that they’ve all only recently been birthed. Yet Cobb is an old man. How can this be? even if he was birthed near the start of the conflict he can’t have aged up so quickly. My personal head canon is that he is not a clone, he is the last surviving member of the original crew, he was around at the start of the conflict, and possibly caused it, hence he is the only one dissatisfied with the outcome and tries to kill the Doctor. If he was around at the start and he will know the reason the war began and so maintains his unquenchable hatred of the Hath. This doesn’t explain everything. Why doesn’t he know about the terraforming device, or how to get there? Well maybe he does and is lying about its nature for propaganda purposes. Or maybe this is all nonsense and he was birthed old instead of young for some reason….. who knows.

I'm so excited for you to cover Turn Left & Midnight! :) Best back to back episodes in doctor who ever I reckon!

This episode is one of my earliest memories of powerfully connecting with the name Jenny. I later took it as my true name when I came out as trans, making the theme of the rejected/reconciled female double quite apt!

One of my favorite episodes of all time, and definitely a very rewatchable episode (I base ratings on two things, the quality of the episode and the rewatchability, so even though a few episodes might be really good, they don't have a rewatchable factor, and several episodes are not so good, but are at least rewatchable---being good and rewatchable puts you in a much higher tier) I keep imagining that I'm in a universe where Firefly is on it's 15th season, where Torchwood didn't go to America(and Ianto is still alive) , where Jenny(although it should be spelled Genni/Geni) has her own series, and so does the Paternoster Gang. (and we get annual specials with Clara and Ashildr/Me--with guest star River Song or Bill Potts/Heather or even Nardole among others)

I'll stick with Gallifreyan. If it were to up to me the first female doctor would have been Jenny. Sort of like a passing of the torch or even setting up the Valeyard

Peck! His name is Peck! 😥

7:00 at least RTD remembered Martha is a doctor instead of Chibnall Ignoring the fact the Yaz is a police officer in many earlier stories

I’ll say this the shabogan name has been used so many times throughout the show in expanded media or not, which is why Jenny can’t regenerate (even though people think she can), but this episode was always a favourite of mine as it was just so powerful and the doctor saying what a timelord is and how Jenny isn’t one but then he sees her as actually one of his own and it’s just beautiful.

Wow, in this video we have both Donna and Aunty Donna. Perfection.

Feel like this story ought to have been a comic, or one of those Infinity-Quest-esque animations. Somehow, it's in the wrong medium. I've always been one to say there's no such thing as a bad story - just stories being told in an ill-fitting medium. A baggy suit looks slimming on a larger man.

I have such a vivid memory of coming into the school playground on monday morning and everyone excitedly discussing the trailer for this episode and all the theories we had about what was going to happen

RTD Doctor Who did well to show Martha putting her medical knowledge to good use. Meanwhile, from what I've heard about Chibnall's Who, Yaz keeps ignoring or doing things contrary to the police training she should have. That's the difference between a writer who cares enough to put the work in, and a writer who just lazily slaps something together.

Now she’s the clone of an extra dimensional being with infinite regeneration

I think in some ways, the doctor himself rarely saves the universe. It's usually alot more to do with the people he comes into contact with, such as Jenny. The Doctor is a message, and the message is hope. Don't get me wrong, he does his fair share of saving and such, but likelihood is that the people he's been in contact with, and who he's inspired have saved at the very least a similar amount of lives.

>Video is titled: Doctor Who's Literal Clickbait Episode But this isn't a review of Let's Kill Hitler?

How have i only just noticed the camera light at 28:38!

I really enjoy Jenny’s adventures in the comics. She turns into an absolute badass it’s sick, I recommend checking it out

ooh you changed the title from remember when the doctor had a daughter

could you imagine if Missy was an incarnation of Jenny post Georgia Moffatt

Jenny should have been the timeless child and then the 1st doctor rescues her as she has regenerated into Susan. Explaining why they ran away at the beginning

I just noticed now the red chairs at 23:17. We have the same ones in white at one of the metro stations of line 4 in Budapest and from a certain angle they look like a stylized version of Darth Vader's helmet. :D

Just a tiny comment: I don't think Martha picked up her insistence to treat her patient from the Doctor. That sort of attitude is very much part and parcel to standard Medical Doctor training, and let us never forget that Martha did have such training.

R.I.P Hath Peck

i thought she would've shown up at journeys end