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Doctor Who's LOST Masterpiece - Doctor Who: Marco Polo (1964) - REVIEW 

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@octaviusfooks7194
@octaviusfooks7194 Год назад
Marco Polo’s narration with map illustrations almost gives vibes of Indiana Jones
@Agos226
@Agos226 Год назад
It's just such a great story on so many levels. Watching it I get the sense that Susan is Ping Cho's first real friend -- she probably spent most of her life surrounded by court advisors and suitors and this is the first time she gets to meet a regular girl who is her same age, its understandable how they instantly become inseparable. All the scenes where Ping Cho asks Susan if she really has to leave and that she makes sure she at least says goodbye tear my heart out. In the final episode where Ping Cho says "they are my friends forever", right before they get in the TARDIS to never return makes me so sad, and Marco's final narration is just a beautiful ending to a beautiful story
@TakeNoteOfThat
@TakeNoteOfThat Месяц назад
Likely Susan’s first teenage friend; she didn’t seem very connected at Coal Hill!
@ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575
You want to know something even worse about the status of Marco Polo's records of it being missing? Around the 1990s, Nigeria had the full film recordings of Season 1 and Season 2. Two full seasons of '60s Who right there and then to be returned to the BBC archives. However, a BBC intern had said to the Nigerian Boardcasting Station that "they're all out on video". Nigeria is known to have destroyed those copies. If we are lucky, the same person who took Web 3 might have taken something from Marco Polo.
@Sarcasticron
@Sarcasticron Год назад
The way you wrote that, and with my head still in the video, I thought at first you were talking about the original Marco Polo's records. I love it! Now, in my head canon, Marco Polo got a time machine, and he tried to destroy all the copies of the Doctor Who videos about him, for some exciting reason. 🧐
@fjccommish
@fjccommish Год назад
They should have had a scene in which everyone was lost in the water, and Marco had to find them as they called out to him.
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 Год назад
What, a sort of Marco water-polo?
@fjccommish
@fjccommish Год назад
@@nigeldepledge3790 More like Marco water tennis.
@russelltietjen4407
@russelltietjen4407 Год назад
Fs in chat for Josh Snares
@pious83
@pious83 Год назад
One of the very few I've ever heard state the First Doctor as being their favourite.
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 Год назад
Fs? What does that mean?
@russelltietjen4407
@russelltietjen4407 Год назад
@@frankshailes3205 it's the "press F to pay respects" meme
@thadscheffel4258
@thadscheffel4258 Год назад
Pouring one out.
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 Год назад
F for Josh Snares.
@bladersmosh
@bladersmosh Год назад
It would be amazing if someone miraculously found all 7 episodes in time for the 60th anniversary. If stories like Enemy of the World and individual parts of Web of Fear, Galaxy 4 and The Underwater Menace can be found before the 50th anniversary, who’s to believe we might find other missing episodes by then?
@tokublwhovian
@tokublwhovian Год назад
It does make me wonder if The Celestial Toymaker has been found (or is being animated) and that’s why RTD is including the character in the 60th. Like how Moffat included The Great Intelligence in The Snowmen and some eps of S7B due to The Web of Fear being found.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Год назад
bladersmosh The recordings are not missing, the bbc destroyed them, because they were taking up space on the shelves!
@MSDOSProject
@MSDOSProject Год назад
​@@tokublwhovianooooh that is a fun theory. I hope we get at least a few episodes back for the 60th
@harrypainter7472
@harrypainter7472 Год назад
Even just one episode of Marco Polo would be awesome. We don't even have a clip of it.
@ghostwarrior3878
@ghostwarrior3878 Год назад
@@harrypainter7472 not true the special features to the beginning box set on one of the discs is a 7 minute bonus feature on the condensed story of Marco Polo using stills from the telesnap reconstruction, mixed with the audio track
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 Год назад
*My favourite Hartnell story and favourite historical story.* The story’s writing is beautiful, it’s characters are beautifully written, (according to surviving pictures and production photos) it looked beautiful, it’s music is beautiful, it was one of the Classic Series’ great gems and it kills me every time knowing that all 7 episodes are missing. The idea that for 7 weeks in 1964, the Doctor, Susan, Ian and Barbra journeyed with Marco Polo across Cathay to see the Mighty Kublai Khan is inspiring and is the sought of thing that the Doctor would mention in a passing line because it would have been to big to do which just shows the great variety in 60s Doctor Who. Some may say that it’s too long but I would heavily disagree and say that one should not treat those stories like a simple one off episode of a nearly 60 year old show and rush through it, especially with the 60s stories. Treat it like a mini series and treat each episode individually.
@peterd788
@peterd788 Год назад
The Abominable Snowmen is the one whose disappearance is the one I miss the most. Aged 5 it is the very first story I remember watching on its broadcast. A part of my memory can never be refreshed.
@SouthPark333Gaming
@SouthPark333Gaming Год назад
I completely agree! Of all the stories to be missing, THIS is the one that hurts the most.
@pious83
@pious83 Год назад
For me, it is Daleks' Master Plan. Marco Polo is second. How possibly the most extensive Dalek story can be mostly lost to time is so sad.
@MSDOSProject
@MSDOSProject Год назад
Of wholly lost stories, for me it's either this or power of the daleks. The fact we are missing basically his first two stories in their entirety and half of the next one is really tragic.
@dr.julianbashir9193
@dr.julianbashir9193 5 месяцев назад
​@@MSDOSProjectis the script also missing for these episodes? They are only truly lost if the script is gone as well.
@Faction.Paradox
@Faction.Paradox Год назад
I would like some future Who stories to take place over a large period of time as this one does. I just want some more risk taking & experimentation, I suppose.
@tokublwhovian
@tokublwhovian Год назад
Hopefully with that Dis cash, Russell will have the guts🤞🏻
@Joanna-il2ur
@Joanna-il2ur Год назад
I watched this when it was on. It was the first properly historical story on Doctor Who. The first had been cavemen, the second the Daleks. I disagree with the bloke who said it was boring. I remember I loved it, and I went to the junior public library and got out a book on Marco Polo and generally eight year old girls didn’t ask for such things. It stimulated a lifelong fascination with history. I have a BA and an MA in it and used to be on the committee of the London Society for Medieval Studies.
@thatguy3968
@thatguy3968 9 месяцев назад
I know this is off topic, (and I’m 9 months late) but, how is “The Daleks” properly historical?
@Joanna-il2ur
@Joanna-il2ur 9 месяцев назад
@@thatguy3968 Doctor Who was subtitled An Adventure through Time and Space. I guess they were space.
@stuff31
@stuff31 Год назад
I feel so bad for all the doctor who nerds whose dvd collections will never be complete. the ocd must drive them mad.
@jamjarr8808
@jamjarr8808 Год назад
I just wish someone would build themselves a TARDIS, bugger off back to the 60's and make copies of all the missing episodes.
@jdzencelowcz
@jdzencelowcz Год назад
This & Dalek's Master Plan R what I'd petition the BBC to crowd fund in order to animate them.
@JuvenileNiall
@JuvenileNiall Год назад
The sad thing about these lost stories is that, despite the quality that some of these early stories hold, if the show didn't keeps it's relevancy, even more stories of Doctor Who could've been completely lost, or at least as far as the general public was concerned. It's a miracle we have/found as many as we have. But at the same time knowing that some are still missing, certainly ones like this, will forever remain saddening. History really, but not even a centenary old before we lost it. I know it's too much to say, but it feels criminal.
@natsmith303
@natsmith303 Год назад
In showing my housemates Classic Who, one of them remarked that The Aztecs was when the show Grew The Beard, but I argued that, if Marco Polo still properly existed that would be the one.
@ghostwarrior3878
@ghostwarrior3878 Год назад
A part of me is holding out hope that this story is out there somewhere even if it's just an episode or two and that it's in a private collector's hands and then at some point they will let someone see it so they can record the two pieces and send them up to the BBC. I really hope that this story was not destroyed or wiped.
@tritonk1759
@tritonk1759 Год назад
Terry Nation wrote a non-Dalek story??? "My Lord, is that legal???'
@TheSeafordian
@TheSeafordian Год назад
Did you miss the first episode?
@tritonk1759
@tritonk1759 Год назад
@@TheSeafordian No???...
@highvoltage7797
@highvoltage7797 Год назад
@@tritonk1759 I don’t know what he’s insinuating. Terry Nation didn’t write the first story 🤷‍♂️
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 Год назад
He wrote two non-Dalek stories for Doctor Who... eventually.
@highvoltage7797
@highvoltage7797 Год назад
@@frankshailes3205 Well Key’s of Marinus is season 1 so he did diversify pretty quick. It took him forever after to make a non Dalek story again.
@thatjustjoe
@thatjustjoe Год назад
I’m loving this content! Really interesting to know about the significant and weird goings on past and present of Doctor Who. Keep it up Mr. Tardis! (PS - Was so angry when I found out it’s lost when watching the classics, that cliffhanger on the previous episode!)
@richardhumphreys8662
@richardhumphreys8662 Год назад
As someone who sat through all seven episodes of this on its original broadcast, I can say that I thought it was very boring. I was ten when Doctor Who started and was immediately captivated by it. I was intrigued by the first story of the cavemen, I loved the Dalek serial and even the two part inside the Tardis story was interesting. But the Marco Polo story was interminable to a boy of my age, even though I was interested in history. I thought the Aztecs was much better because it was only four episodes and had a conciseness that this story completely lacked. I thought The Keys of Marinus that followed this story was much better.
@MSDOSProject
@MSDOSProject Год назад
Aztecs was better for those exact reasons. Marco Polo is a good story but could have lost 2 episodes and been a lot better off.
@michaeldallaway1988
@michaeldallaway1988 Год назад
The reconstructions have probably done Marco Polo a favour, as judging by the audio recordings seven episodes does start to drag. That said the sheer ambition of it makes it the missing story I most want to see
@jayturner3397
@jayturner3397 Год назад
Yes as an 8 year old in '63 it did drag slightly, had to convince the old man to watch but he was all over this one 😆 🤣
@vocalist92
@vocalist92 Год назад
It's always interesting to hear original viewer reviews from lost stories. I'm a 90s millennial so these stories were already long lost by the time I got into the series and always thought there'd be some stories I'd never be able to see in my lifetime. Though I'm glad the Web of Fear had been found cos I wanted to see the Yeti in action from such a young age
@Drekal684
@Drekal684 Год назад
I only saw the reconstruction around ten years back and - yeah, it could have lost two episodes and basically been fine. It's so weird to me because I didn't much care for it, found it boring, but everyone's calling it their favourite historical.
@pious83
@pious83 Год назад
I've always liked the concept that the Doctor and companions are essentially landlocked. That they can't just hop in the Tardis and leave whenever they feel like it.
@dumbodick
@dumbodick Год назад
Mr tardis. Honestly. As a 9 year old this story was zzzzzzzzzzzz. Can still remember it
@shoestringscifi
@shoestringscifi Год назад
I love the Doctor's laughter in the first episode. Scripted or not, it works for me.
@benmiller3252
@benmiller3252 Год назад
I'm hoping one day Marco Polo will get animated ( if The animation makes a comeback )
@MSDOSProject
@MSDOSProject Год назад
I think they've been holding out hope that it comes back, and also the historical have been known to be hard to animate based on the size of cast and number of setpieces.
@petergreenwald9639
@petergreenwald9639 Год назад
The few animated reproductions of original episodes I have seen were painful to watch. They just don't put value on the visuals. It is like amateur hour. Perhaps now that Sony has Bad Wolf in it's stable we can hope for some professional recreations in the future.
@ineedausername124
@ineedausername124 Год назад
@@petergreenwald9639 some of them look really nice, but they're just really inconsistent especially due to the budget and deadlines, and the changing studios
@Just-Plain-Potential
@Just-Plain-Potential Год назад
That moment when Barbara and Susan talk under the stars has to be my favorite moment of the entire era. Like, it's like something out of the revival. i actually felt a real connection through it, even without any music. Now, I was born in the wilderness years, so I do find the 60s era stuff a bit slow, but this, this was incredible.
@ryancarrick3585
@ryancarrick3585 Год назад
This is one of the stories I'd most want to see recovered alongside the crusade, daleks Masterplan and the massacre
@nedd.8479
@nedd.8479 Год назад
Easily my favourite Hartnell story, and honestly in my top 10 of all time (maybe even top 5).
@LintIsReal
@LintIsReal 10 месяцев назад
These episodes HAVE to exist somewhere. With the amount of people having watched it and the amount of countries that broadcast it there must be a copy somewhere. I know personal recording devices were not very common back then but out of the millions of people that watched these episodes chances are someone recorded it and just forgot about it in an attic or something. I hope.
@laurarose2666
@laurarose2666 8 дней назад
I envy the people who found this serial not boring. By the third time the group tried to convince marco that he was being duped, I was checked out. A few episodes too long of the same thing over and over. The Hartnell scenes, the susan scenes and the overall arch of Ping Cho's were compelling to me, but so drawn out
@Sci-Fi-Mike
@Sci-Fi-Mike Год назад
I wish I had a TARDIS to retrieve the lost episodes...this series might be at the top of my list...on that note, I really enjoyed this review! Thanks, Mr. TARDIS.
@octaviusfooks7194
@octaviusfooks7194 Год назад
Fun fact: Ping-Cho (Zienia Merton) would later go on to play as Data Analyst Sandra Benes in Gerry Anderson's Space 1999 in 1975
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 Год назад
20:50 This EvilDalek79 sounds like a nerd! 🤓
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 Год назад
Honestly, considering this story was a blast to watch, DESPITE being a lose cannon reconstruction, which are the bane of my existance due to my incredibly short atention span, I'd say this story is really good, and like you said, really is the holy grail of missing Doctor Who serials.
@toadtv4389
@toadtv4389 Год назад
Absolutely adored this story. Imagination was enough for me, i keep on forgetting that it's lost ❤
@christophersheets5452
@christophersheets5452 Год назад
Just finished listening to it. Great story!
@shoestringscifi
@shoestringscifi Год назад
I have greatly enjoyed the Loose Cannon reconstructions of Marco Polo. I hope episodes of this serial are found someday.
@octaviusfooks7194
@octaviusfooks7194 Год назад
I think that Derren Nesbit played Thomas Dodd in Big Finish's Doctor Who: Spare Parts
@rngwrldngnr
@rngwrldngnr Год назад
The audiobook of the novelization, or there one built from episode audio?
@DougBohm
@DougBohm Год назад
I’ve been thinking over the last week since using AI ChatGPT for some creative projects, if we will be only a few years away from an AI totally recreating the entire 7 episode story based on all available source material. This would be the most epic reclamation of lost works in human history.
@Monocheto1
@Monocheto1 Год назад
Im pretty sure IA will be able to fully recreate and even create new classic DW stories by the time the 100th anniversary comes
@blingproductions4560
@blingproductions4560 6 месяцев назад
I would rather Marco Polo be lost forever than entirely recreated by ai
@MazzaEliLi7406
@MazzaEliLi7406 Год назад
Cathay not cafe.
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 Год назад
"Playing with Kublai and being so good that he wins half of asia" Yup, that's the First Doctor to you all, just an ordinary day in Old Hartnel's life.
@rickriffel6246
@rickriffel6246 Год назад
I hope this can be remade as an audio drama and as an animated reconstruction of all seven episodes.
@tombrearley-smith5777
@tombrearley-smith5777 Год назад
I'd love for it to be animated too. But given the ensemble cast of characters and its numerous settings, it would be a tricky task.
@matthewbolitho-jones
@matthewbolitho-jones Год назад
I like Marco Polo
@l2919
@l2919 Год назад
I might need to watch this now
@vocalist92
@vocalist92 Год назад
Well good luck with that
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 Год назад
I recommend the second Loose Cannon reconstruction on Dailymotion.
@l2919
@l2919 Год назад
@@frankshailes3205 thank you will check it out
@l2919
@l2919 Год назад
@@vocalist92 thanks
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 9 месяцев назад
I kind of wish the BBC had their own time machine so they could go back and record all those lost episodes when they came out. Also, they could have early Doctors show up for their anniversaries
@grantwheelwright9168
@grantwheelwright9168 Год назад
I met Derren Nesbitt a few years ago and as I love the recon asked him about it and if he'd want it to be found some day. To my surprise he was very negative saying "oh god no. Who wants 7 episodes returned of some cheap silly children's program"...I was actually shocked and slightly annoyed that he held it in so little regard
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 Год назад
2:52 poor josh.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 6 месяцев назад
2:13 You know, I thought you were going to say "the yellowface". 7:15 Did she use the honorific "sama"? 14:30 Yeah, I prefer this interpretation and it makes so much more sense. Listen to the start of his laughter. That's weep-laughing. That's "I'm going insane!" laughter. "I know he is, yet still!" The Doctor proclaims. This isn't a flub, he's in-character aware he should not be laughing at this moment. And why wouldn't he be? He stole the damn thing in the first place! The sheer _irony_ of the situation. This great explorer is stealing the thing he stole to see the universe. And it's all his fault. He never read her manual, he never learned how she worked, he didn't bother getting paranoid about fixing her when the Chameleon Circuit broke, he _just_ almost died because of another technical fault, and the only reason they're even out here with these humans is because he decided "whelp they know too much, time to kidnap them and abscond from this time period!" This is the death of, as the extended "canon" says his real name is, d³∑x₂ (or Theta Sigma for short) and the true birth of The Doctor. It's all processing right now for him; who he is, what he is, what he was, what he shall be, and it's basically the heroic equivalent of The Joker's One Bad Day. It fits his arc so well, because we get another instant classic Doctorism by the end: he makes the weirdest friends, his first approach is friendship and peace. Before, he was still a Time Lord at his heart, so convinced of his own superiority. The laughing madness is that he realizes he's no better than a human and in fact is at his heart more akin to Marco than anything. He just got screwed over a man who, without his ego preventing him from accepting it, is so much like him. And within a short time by his standards, he's become able to become instant besties with a human he just met, something _impossible_ for this man beforehand. The laughing works perfectly.
@KillerBebe
@KillerBebe Год назад
They most likely did not hire Asians from the outside of BBC, and just hired from central casting as a cost saving. The yellow face by todays standard is unacceptable but you have to remember not to judge from outside the time period. Hopefully they will find a copy of this in a box stored somewhere on an old shelf
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Год назад
Not that there were many experienced Chinese actors available in the UK at the time. Indeed, it's notable that even the original _American_ stage production of "The World of Suzie Wong" had a lead actress who couldn't speak English and learned her lines phonetically. That aside, we'd have to wait a very long time before a Chinese actor (David Yip) was given a leading role on British TV, and that was in 1981.
@SavageBroadcast
@SavageBroadcast Год назад
KillerBebe Yes and no - yes, context matters, but it doesn't excuse a bad thing being a bad thing in any era. Plus, it should be flagged up for those who may find it distracting or offensive if they want to listen to the story - it'd be like reviewing The Jazz Singer and never mentioning the blackface song number.
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 Год назад
@@ftumschk A lead role yes, but one of a trio of leads in 1963's "The Sentimental Agent" was Burt Kwouk. I doubt the BBC could afford him in those days though. They got him much later for Tenko.
@Howyaduing
@Howyaduing Год назад
They should remake the entire story with David Bradley and Claudia Grant. Also recast, Ian and Barbara. With the added bonus of casting actual Chinese actors.
@a_diamond
@a_diamond Год назад
Am I the only one looking at the thumb nail wondering whether the TARDIS has a flat.. (Oh wow! It was actually broken xD )
@StayOnTarget.
@StayOnTarget. Год назад
A great story but far too long!
@tokublwhovian
@tokublwhovian Год назад
The Daleks’ Master Plan would like a word
@StayOnTarget.
@StayOnTarget. Год назад
@@tokublwhovian If the Daleks' Masterplan was a eight parter and not missing I would consider it the greatest Hartnell story.
@randomreviews4278
@randomreviews4278 5 месяцев назад
Why is this lost. I recently started watching the original series on tubi because they added William hertnell up to Sylvester McCoy
@SirDanFilmsUnltd
@SirDanFilmsUnltd Месяц назад
It’s all a bit of a complicated legal mess, but it basically boils down to: - agreements with the actor’s union Equity limited the show to two airings (initial airing and one possible rerun), and a retention limit in the recording for two years - the home video market didn’t really exist back then, so there wasn’t serious consideration given to long form resale, particularly for a show which, at the time, was seen as kids sci fi - the show was filmed on video tape, but video tape was too expensive to buy in excess, so the general practice at the time was to copy the videotape recording to film for archiving, then wipe and reuse the videotape for programme - TV studios in the day only had so much space they could afford for archiving recordings, so these recordings were typically junked after seven years to make space It’s ultimately just the standards and practices of the day. Fortunately, attitudes towards media preservation have progressed since then. The RU-vidr Josh Snares has several documentaries on the history of the lost episodes of Doctor Who.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Год назад
19:35 Pathos rhymes with "doss", not "dose". "Pathowce"is a silly Americanised mangling of the word, for which there is no excuse or justification. Pathos, thanos, kudos, mythos (etc) are all Greek words explicitly spelt with a short "o" (omicron) as in "cod", not a long "o" (omega) as in "code".
@DriverHenryWho3245
@DriverHenryWho3245 Год назад
Grammar police
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Год назад
@@DriverHenryWho3245 No, I was stating fact and pointing out the correct pronunciation of a fairly simple word... one which Brits pronounced correctly until the creeping Americanisation of recent years started to infect us with its ludicrious mispronunciation of such words. There's no omega in "πάθος" (pathos), so it should be pronounced with a short "o" as in cod, not a long "o" as in code. It's as easy as that - nothing to do with grammar, just basic phonetics.
@ClausB252
@ClausB252 Год назад
@@ftumschk you mean long o as in code which sounds like coyd or cayd?
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Год назад
@@ClausB252 Words like "code" only rhyme with "owed" among English speakers and other anglophones. The long "o" (omega) is just that - a long, flat "o" sound. If you're familiar with the native British accents of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Newcastle, Wales or Scotland, they also have a pure, flat "long o", and it's the same in practically every other language I know of, apart from English. BTW, pronouncing code as "cayd" (or snow as "snay", etc) is a fairly recent affectation acquired by the English upper classes and what we used to call Sloane Rangers.
@SirDanFilmsUnltd
@SirDanFilmsUnltd Год назад
Yeah…but I like how they sound with a long O more than a short O, so I’ll gladly be wrong.
@ThanhTriet600
@ThanhTriet600 5 месяцев назад
The historical episodes in season 1 are really good apart from the cavemen while the sci fi ones tend to be bullocks. I wish they did more stuff like this where the doctor just had an adventure with a historical figure without aliens and the like involved.
@bobprew9373
@bobprew9373 Год назад
I was a teenager when this aired. I remember it as tedious boring claptrap lacking any of the excitement or compulsion required by a Saturday evening serial. Getting wiped was the best thing that could happen to it for the sake of future generations. Actually, all the Who historicals were at the best, poor. It took the programme far too long to realise this and abandon them to the abyss where they belonged.
@fjccommish
@fjccommish Год назад
What's with the backg.round music? It has nothing to do with Doctor Who
@MrTARDIS
@MrTARDIS Год назад
It's the music from 'Marco Polo'.
@clownpenisfart
@clownpenisfart Год назад
If you really want to make an Italian mad, tell them that Marco Polo introduced them to pasta thanks to China. Then tell them that you boil pasta with olive oil and pour pasta water down the drain.
@flapackfez
@flapackfez Год назад
As an Italian I can confirm this
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