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Earth has been conquered and the Master rules supreme, with the Doctor his prisoner. Can Martha Jones save the world?
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@Syntell
@Syntell Месяц назад
Have you seen NupeFromDaVille's breakdown of this episode? - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bOaFdpL6S98.html
@nupefromdaville
@nupefromdaville Месяц назад
Thank you again for the assist bruv!
@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366
@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366 Месяц назад
Really good rekkai lore and if ever piss i him off I now know he will kick butt and head at the same time I don't think syntell will ever hold a candle to him
@nupefromdaville
@nupefromdaville Месяц назад
@@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366 lol
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
On it!!!!
@Legendary3Dgamer
@Legendary3Dgamer Месяц назад
Please watch time crash children in need special of doctor who
@fleason771
@fleason771 Месяц назад
The courage & sacrifice of Martha Jones has never been lost on this fan I can tell you. The dignified exit she has here is very underrated, she knew her own worth & Freema is still as youthful today at 45 to still come back too.. 🙏
@DakNJaxter
@DakNJaxter Месяц назад
I didn't buy many Doctor Who books, but I had to get 'The Story of Martha', because toughing it out for a whole year on her own was hardcore.
@Syntell
@Syntell Месяц назад
Know your value. I'm proud of her.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
@@DakNJaxter Yeah, I want to get the Martha/Ten books. From what I've heard, they are really good.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
@@Syntell 🥰
@Persewna4
@Persewna4 Месяц назад
Yeah, sometime during Season 1 of their rewatch, Syntell and Rekkai were talking about how hard it must be to walk away from the Tardis and the Doctor (I think in reaction to Rose telling her mum why she wants to keep traveling) and it made me think of Martha's exit, knowing that they would get to see someone actually choose to walk away from it. While Rose is right that traveling with the Doctor changes you, changes how you see and understand yourself, the universe, and humanity, Martha made the smart choice, to leave on her terms. She isn't forced to part from him like Rose was, or abandoned like Jack, or dropped off and forgotten like Sarah Jane. Mad respect to Martha for walking away when she could. On rewatches of this season, that is the scene that, more than anything, makes her my favorite companion, I think. Because she chose herself, and that is aspirational.
@mistressm3075
@mistressm3075 Месяц назад
The face of Boe reveal was one of my favorite parts of this season outside of the masterpiece that is Blink. Freema and David Tenant did not know this was in the script and their reactions are real. I loved that Martha realized her worth and left on her own to do what’s best for her. Loving these Dr.who breakdowns! ❤
@emilyckohl
@emilyckohl Месяц назад
It’s so lovely to see Martha getting the appreciation she deserves ❤ It would never have worked between her & the doctor; his love language is saving people, and she didn’t need saving
@Professor_Murder
@Professor_Murder Месяц назад
I like to think that The Master made the little Gollum Doctor a tiny brown pinstripe suit to wear.
@fleason771
@fleason771 Месяц назад
The abuse that poor Lucy Saxon got was lost on me as a Kid but that woman looks like she went through hell! 😬 The absolute savagery that Martha's family were made to witness the massacre of 1/10th of the Earth was something else 🤯
@Llanchlo
@Llanchlo Месяц назад
Agreed - most reactors seem to totally gloss over this aspect. Many don't notice the bruises on her face and body language in this episode assuming it is more about the slaughter of the huan race, not something personal. I think the actress does a great job and if you look carefully she is already showing how she is feeling trapped in the previous episode as early as when she is quizzed by the journalist
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
Surprised no one brought up Thanos (is that the name?), but maybe they did and I missed it.
@Lenkic13
@Lenkic13 Месяц назад
Yeah, I always felt sorry for Lucy.
@Persewna4
@Persewna4 Месяц назад
​@@Lenkic13 yeah, unlike the Doctor's companions, her Time Lord with the Tardis could only take her to one destination in the future, and without all the wonderful things in-between the Present and the End, Lucy only got to see humanity's final flickers of light. It's clear her experience filled her with a nihilistic view of the world, with nothing else to counterbalance that. I do feel bad for Lucy too, although she helped facilitate the Master's rise to power, she was isolated from others while receiving little comfort from her partner, the Master. I thought her shooting him was a good mirror of Chantho shooting him at the end of Utopia; both iterations of the Master undone by his own companions, taken by surprise because he underestimated them, did not consider them as autonomous individuals but as extensions of himself.
@swanchamp5136
@swanchamp5136 Месяц назад
Rose defeated the Devil, Martha made Lucifer fall for her so hard he sacrificed himself.
@space1999
@space1999 Месяц назад
There is a little 5 minute episode called "time crash" u need to watch before the next episode... it explains how the titanic broke through the shields and hits the tardis.... its a wonderfully warm bit of tv where David tennant gets to meet his actual hero! (And his father in law now)
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
:)
@MJE-riffs
@MJE-riffs Месяц назад
The Master's been running on fumes for a long time. He used up all of his regenerations in 1976. Since then he's been stealing alien power sources in an attempt to extend his life. In the 1996 TV movie, he tried to steal the Eighth Doctor's remaining regenerations.
@OldManFerdiad
@OldManFerdiad Месяц назад
But he also tells The Doctor that the Time Lords "resurrected" him to fight in the Time War... the Professor Yana body could regenerate so he had at least once, so who knows?
@purpleduke3193
@purpleduke3193 Месяц назад
​@@OldManFerdiad, ye it's been confirmed the Master is on their 2nd regeneration cycle. The 18th incarnation played by Alex Macqueen was the beginning of the new cycle, making Sir Derek Jacobi the 2nd in the new cycle. Everyone from the Peter Pratt/Geoffrey Beavers "crispy" Master to the Eric Roberts Master is technically still the 13th incarnation, but to keep things simple (especially when there's multi-master events like "Masterful" or "The Ravenous") the numbering changes per actor after Beavers.
@OldManFerdiad
@OldManFerdiad Месяц назад
@@purpleduke3193 so I'm guessing for this 2nd regeneration cycle Alex Macqueen was 2.1 (is that Big Finish?), Jacobi 2.2, Simm 2.3, Missy 2.4, Dhawan 2.5 (and 2.6 if we count the 'forced regeneration', but who the hell knows how that works) plus potentially the new 'Tooth Master' too... yikes, they burn through incarnations almost as fast as The Doctor ;-) Gosh, funny to think that Delgado must have been incarnation 12 of his first cycle.
@purpleduke3193
@purpleduke3193 Месяц назад
@@OldManFerdiad Yeah thats about right, Macqueen is one of the Big Finish exclusives. He debuts in the excellent 16 part "Dark Eyes" story, followed by the 6th Dr story "Vampire of the Mind" & 7th Dr multi- master story "The Two Master's" (those 2 are parts 2&3 of a small trilogy). He also appears in the Master's 50th anniversary celebration "Masterful". He's a nice balance between the unhinged Nu-Who versions and the original presence of Delgado and is worth the look if you have the time (& funds) So the new cycle goes 2.1) Macqueen 2.2) Jacobi 2.3) Simm 2.4) Gomez 2.5) McKee (as the Luminat) and 2.6) Dwann. Although, it's not been confirmed whether the Master has multiple lives as the Luminat or if Dwann is indeed the incarnation directly after or not.
@OldManFerdiad
@OldManFerdiad Месяц назад
@@purpleduke3193 hahaha just realised I wrote Missy instead of Michelle Gomez, although honestly I think they are probably one and the same.
@invincor
@invincor Месяц назад
Re: Martha’s brother. The actor who played him got some other job and became unavailable on most of the Doctor Who shooting dates in the back half of the season, so they had to write around his absence. That’s why he wins at hide and seek.
@CheesyRHEC
@CheesyRHEC Месяц назад
“The face of Bo” reveal is one of the best reveals 😁but the best is yet to come 💯
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
It so is.... :)
@fleason771
@fleason771 Месяц назад
The boy who played "Creet" was a child competition winner from the BBC children's magazine show "Blue Peter" (who frequently have Dr Who associations) called "John Bell" however he wasn't told he would eventually become a Toclafane!!..& die trapped at the end of the universe!! 😂
@labelle10
@labelle10 Месяц назад
I auditioned for that! I still have the video tape I sent in 😅😅 unfortunately whilst I was a very enthusiastic whovian I wasn’t the best actor! I remember being very envious of that kid when it aired!
@nupefromdaville
@nupefromdaville Месяц назад
oh wow!!!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
@@nupefromdaville I wonder whether they'll do any contests with Neo Who like they used to do.
@catherine140864
@catherine140864 25 дней назад
John Bell has a major role on 'Outlander' now, playing Young Ian.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 25 дней назад
@@catherine140864 Oh, wow, that's cool.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
Martha is wrong here: She is a legend.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
YES!!!!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
He went on to play Lucifer and David Tennant went on to play the demon Crowley. Funny old world.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
And David was a great Crowley!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
@@IsiahBradley He really is great in so many roles. You might recognize him from another role, but he becomes whatever he needs to for whatever his current role is.
@sean437
@sean437 Месяц назад
This is why Martha Jones tops my rankings as a companion. She does not need the Doctor, she saves the world, and she even walks out on him. Hate to see her go...
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
And without gaining any superpowers (not that that isn't cool), just by determination and eloquence and intelligence.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
@@HuntingViolets I thank you for that important view!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
@@IsiahBradley You're welcome.
@ellick74
@ellick74 Месяц назад
Just have to say I love this content. As an old school Whovian, I get such a kick out of folks exploring this show for the first time. I didn't have the luxury of sharing my first watching of this show with people that appreciate it. And to see the 2 of you vibing over it makes my day. Keep it up!
@Daelyas
@Daelyas Месяц назад
top notch reactions on all fronts - fully agree!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
_Some_ people did not like Martha. I loved Martha from the beginning.
@tillyt4054
@tillyt4054 Месяц назад
I'm a Brit and I can honestly say I've never met anyone who didn't love Martha , but she was an unknown actress who replaced the very well known Billie Piper ,who was a teenage pop star and actress before she played Rose, That would have been a difficult role for anyone Martha was my son's biggest Dr Who crush ! Posters of her all over his bedroom wall , I was really dissapointed when she left and much prefered her to Rose who had honestly started to grate on me
@fleason771
@fleason771 Месяц назад
I still crush on Freema!! She looks amazing still. Her Insta is enough evidence 🥰
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin Месяц назад
Thank you for saying it. Rose got on my last nerve. Martha was much more independent imo and her exit is one of the best in the series.
@davek7256
@davek7256 Месяц назад
I always got the impression that those that didn’t like Martha was more for the fact of how besotted she was with the Doctor rather than her colour. Some people were hoping that after Rose the sexual tension would be dialled down but instead it was dialled up and put right out there with Martha! Most would say that Freema played Martha really well and was also incredibly beautiful but I’ve not heard any derogatory comments about her race. A great character with some of her best storylines of any season. Great reaction guys, don’t leave us waiting too long as the next series is seriously good.
@MsMelyjean
@MsMelyjean 26 дней назад
Martha's been away a year. She's over it. The best "it's not you, it's me" speech.
@BARALover96
@BARALover96 Месяц назад
Martha Jones is one of the companions i hope we see comeback in some way. Not as a full companion ofcourse but as a guest star. Catch up a little bit see what she is up to now.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
I think the Master is angry that he is in shreds but the Doctor, despite a lot of sadness, got to have a life.
@MR_RUUU
@MR_RUUU Месяц назад
Tenants crying at the end was probably very real considering his mother died shortly before filming this.
@anthonymunn8633
@anthonymunn8633 Месяц назад
I have to admit,I really like the detail and thoughtfulness the two of you put into your discussions after the episode.Excellent job,my friends!
@roberthager7390
@roberthager7390 Месяц назад
Before watching "voyage of the damned" W 29:39 atch the mini episode "Time Crash"
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
I hope they watch it!
@sebbiesda3305
@sebbiesda3305 Месяц назад
Martha's brother was supposed to be in this story, but the guy that played the part let them down, so they filled his part with Tom Ellis instead.
@theprophetessnastacia
@theprophetessnastacia Месяц назад
I love Martha’s journey as a companion to The Doctor. I can’t wait until the two of you get to Season 4. The next companion is coming and you might not agree with the choice, but you will grow to enjoy this particular companion’s journey. Trust me on this one. Don’t let anyone else tell you that the new companion is a waste of time. You guys ain’t seen nothing yet ❤ #whovianforlife
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
We're so near to *our* utopia... :)
@technofilejr3401
@technofilejr3401 Месяц назад
I liked because this Companion loved the Doctor like a best friend. But they were never in love or had a big crush on him.
@Thunderyhail
@Thunderyhail Месяц назад
I love that Martha left with dignity and it being her choice. She felt she wasn’t appreciated or treated right by the doctor and didn’t just take it anymore
@TheDoctor4124
@TheDoctor4124 Месяц назад
Here’s the thing…I. The classic series it was very much shown that the Doctor doesn’t have human feelings. His quirks are alien because he is an alien and only looks like a human. In fact in the new Doctor who book series they show that Time Lords aren’t born they are created within the Great houses from a loom based on dna from previous time lords. So for him humans are only there so he doesn’t get lonely… his companions are really there just so he can show how smart he is and to keep him from becoming to dark. He doesn’t fall in love because that’s a human emotion. In fact the only reason he’s so protective of earth is to prevent alterations to fixed points in time due to his interference. In the classic series the time lord civilization still existed and kept the Doctor in check but would use him to ensure the timeline didn’t get jacked up. He’s a renegade time lord just like the Rani or the Master but he works to ensure time proceeds as it’s supposed to according to to time lord sayso….now that he’s alone he’s basically a god
@charg1nmalaz0r51
@charg1nmalaz0r51 Месяц назад
It would be impacful if that hadnt been done to death in old who, people make out martha as a companion was amazing because of this but others before her had much better storylines than her pining over the doctor and not having her feelings reciprocated and dumbing the doctor, putting him in his place.
@zinnia2980
@zinnia2980 Месяц назад
We are loving the daily Dr Who reactions 👋😍 The Master is a menacing manipulative monster but absolutely riveting. Tom Ellis actually played a much loved doctor on EastEnders so another Doctor saves the day with Martha 👌
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
That one-week (?) hiatus will be hard for me....
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
"Now it's just you and your hand!" LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Greatest double-entendre ever!!! Immediately followed by the now-obligatory Diddy reference!!! LMAO!!!!!!! THANKS for this!!!! Are you gonna review "TimeCrash?" The Children in Need minisode is wedged between this and the Special and I love it so much! @nupefromdaville, there's *so* much I want to say to you but I can't...so just keep watching! Now, wait 'til you see next season.... :) But first ("TimeCrash" then) the Titanic!!!!
@Syntell
@Syntell Месяц назад
We're working on a plan for the mini series while we set up for season 4
@AshleyBurke23
@AshleyBurke23 Месяц назад
The Face of Boe reveal is done brilliantly, loved the reaction guys, can’t wait for the Christmas special and series 4! Series 4 has some excellent stories to dig into 😁
@Lenkic13
@Lenkic13 Месяц назад
At the time, from my memory, people were pretty excited about the fact Martha wasn’t another blond white chick, so I don’t think it was a “black thing”. I think people were still getting over Rose to fully appreciate Martha. A bit like the Doctor himself. I hope you guys are going to watch the mini-sode “Time Crash” before watching “Voyage of the Damned”.
@ellick74
@ellick74 Месяц назад
I forgot to mention and I'm not sure if anyone did: Max aired the edited TV version of this so you kind of missed Martha's mothers somewhat redemption. In the DVD unedited version of this episode, prior to Luxy grabbing the gun and shooting the Master, Francine gets it first. There's a scene where she is just dead set on killing the Master and the Doctor stops her. The intensity in her eyes and voice spoke volumes and it kills me that a lot of folks never saw that scene. And in turn, it led to the more dramatic part of Lucy shooting the Master cause now I thought the gun was disposed of.
@boombam5214
@boombam5214 29 дней назад
OMG! I totally forgot that scene, I hope they see your comment and I'm glad I have the DVD's lol.
@ellick74
@ellick74 29 дней назад
@@boombam5214 I hope they do too...I know cut out a lot of stuff for the American audience but the DVD/Blue-Rays hold true to what was initially aired in U.K. Of all the scenes cut, that to me was the most profound. Like when I saw it on Max I was like "Hold up, where's that scene at...?" The rest probably went over my head.
@ellick74
@ellick74 26 дней назад
It's wild...I'm sure there's a ton of stuff what was cut due to time constraints for us but you're right, I was like, why cut that. I guess it pays to get your physical copies of the show.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
It's been great watching you two react to this season and it always makes me so happy when reactors give Martha some love and appreciation. It would be great to see her again in the new seasons at some point, although I don't expect it this year (unless they really sneaked Freema in to film).
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 Месяц назад
7:34 Yikes!!!! You're not wrong! 😭😂
@MJE-riffs
@MJE-riffs Месяц назад
nice throwaway reference to the Axons from the 1971 story The Claws of Axos.
@JohnSteed-ef7fl
@JohnSteed-ef7fl 29 дней назад
Love Martha my favourite companion in my who ! Love the last half of series 3.
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 Месяц назад
8:50 This scene made me speechless when I first watched this episode! A twisted reveal!
@ignacioblasco7971
@ignacioblasco7971 Месяц назад
Martha is my all time favourite.
@MJE-riffs
@MJE-riffs Месяц назад
Despite what happens at the end, Time Crash really does take place between this episode and Voyage of the Damned. All will become clear.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
Yeah, I find "Time Crash" a little odd for various reasons.
@danofthehour4119
@danofthehour4119 Месяц назад
There was an 8 minute minisode set between Martha’s exit and the titanic crashing (it makes sense, trust me) called Time Crash. It’s on youtube but honestly, I’d recommend watching it AFTER the christmas special but before series 4. Although it’s set before the christmas special begins, it kinda kills the momentum/hype of the titanic crashing into the tardis.
@GhostPurple69
@GhostPurple69 Месяц назад
the brother was going to player a bigger role in the last episode, but filming logistics didn't work out. iirc, the tom milligan character roughly filled the story space martha's brother was meant to occupy.
@technofilejr3401
@technofilejr3401 Месяц назад
2:01, hey that is Tom Ellis from Lucifer. Never knew he played a character on Doctor who
@moloids
@moloids Месяц назад
Fans did not like Rose either. Rose was too mean to Mickey in their opinion of some (of the younger?) fanbase. And many classic Who fans just hated that there was any form of romance in the show.
@smashstuff86
@smashstuff86 Месяц назад
There is a mini-sode before the Christmas special, if you're not aware. I hope you guys didn't watch the American edit. In case you did, and would like to see the original scene, SPOILERS!!!! Martha's mom picks up the gun and almost shoots the Master.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
That was edited out?!?
@LauraGS564
@LauraGS564 Месяц назад
Blink is the blueprint of everything timey wimey happening this season and I love it. Just like in Blink, Martha meets the Master first in the future having already seen and heard him as Harold Saxon and then the Face of Boe being Jack thing later.
@fleason771
@fleason771 Месяц назад
It's a big finale the God like flying is a bit much but what a season eh? Love from 🇬🇧 Oh and isn't composer Murray Gold again amazing 🎶
@nupefromdaville
@nupefromdaville Месяц назад
Absolutely amazing!
@moloids
@moloids Месяц назад
I think Murry Gold really went to schmalzy at the "Jesus moment". I think if they went for a darker sound track there, it could have worked much better for me.
@jennifermorris6848
@jennifermorris6848 Месяц назад
I liked Martha. I didn’t like that they wrote her as totally smitten from day one. She was smarter than that. She was always a smart helper.
@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566
@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566 Месяц назад
RESPECT, Martha.
@lunacouer
@lunacouer Месяц назад
The thing I was always frustrated with was how they wrote Martha to simp the Doctor. It was such a bad decision on the writers' part. Everyone, not just the Doctor, was recovering from losing Rose, so her being in love with him made her seem like "the other woman". That put her on a bad footing with the audience before anyone even got to know her. People couldn't see past that into what a badass she is and how much she saved the Doctor. That's why this finale is in my top 3 - her badassery shines.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
The question I constantly debate with myself is how Martha and Freema were treated *the same way* .... :(
@lunacouer
@lunacouer Месяц назад
@@IsiahBradley What question is that? Do you mean how stan culture treated Freema like she was the other woman?
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
@@lunacouer [WITHOUT SPOILING ANYTHING] Both Martha/Freema were brought in in-between stars--one was a U.K. Britney Spears wannabe and the other the U.K. equivalent to Carol Burnett. She got one season only. She didn't get a Christmas special but she did get to co-star in the first-ever DW animation project. Were Martha/Freema just DEI placeholders, or did she just not "gel" with RTD and Co.? Or was it her--are the rumors true that she turned down a second season of "Torchwood?" I dunno the answers to these.
@davidclayton579
@davidclayton579 Месяц назад
Freema and David were left unaware of this line as their reaction was to be genuine, similar to Willy Wonka when we gwt to see the factory the first time.
@SpiderRiderKya
@SpiderRiderKya Месяц назад
Yes, coming back from the dead does actually hurt Jack. It comes up in, I think Torchwood (don't remember when) that it feels like crawling across broken glass. So not only is dying unpleasant (esp depending on how it happens), but coming back is equally as unpleasant. Also, iirc, David and Freema weren't told about that 'Face of Bo' line before hand, so their reactions are 100% genuine there.
@tycol322
@tycol322 13 дней назад
Makes what he went through at the end of series two and the start of season 4 (even though I refuse to acknowledge miracle day as canon) all the rougher
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 Месяц назад
15:29 This is where the fun begins! My man The Doctor! 🙏🏽💪
@qa1327
@qa1327 Месяц назад
21:58 this reveal was so awesome. 24:26 lol. Wow. Took me a sec to figure out what exactly you meant but them remembered his severed hand. 26:22 lol this had me rollin Martha’s time was way too short. Loved her as a companion.
@1funkyflyguy
@1funkyflyguy Месяц назад
I wanted both your thoughts in a deep dive on the Jack being the Face of Boe twist reveal!
@abbaskazmi2558
@abbaskazmi2558 Месяц назад
I'm really excited for ya'll's Season 4 reaction.
@R.senals_Arsenal
@R.senals_Arsenal Месяц назад
🤣I love the Z formation🤣Disney Whovians should be called WHOplusians! I would love to be a part of your "tribe" though I've been with Doctor WHO since I was 5 and my dad brought me VHS tapes of the 4th Doctor from a convention in the early 80s! If you do the math, yes I'm 48, tellin on myself here. The Master ran from the war, but not before he fought in it for a time. Remember he said the Time Lords brought him back to fight For them, the implication being (and confirmed in expanded media) that he got a whole new life cycle from them as a trade for his services, his ruthlessness they required. I wouldn't say he is a coward so much as he is all about self preservation and self interest to the exclusion of all else. I also think he hate The Doctor in part because he has an inferiority complex when it comes to The Doctor. He's the only one that can best him, and it drives him more insane than he already is. He always comes back to the Doctor because he has something to prove. He could've just run off across the universe somewhere, but no, he went to strike at 21st Century Earth, the Doctor's adopted home away from home. Martha... I love Martha, she's a great character. I enjoyed her arc. I know others did not. I know others won't like Ncuti for the same reason too, and it is dumb AF, but that's the way it is sometimes. In Audio drama the 6th Doctor met HP Lovecraft, who was a famous author, but also famously he did not care for people who were not white like him. The 6th Doctor tells him the following, and I know this almost by heart because I clipped it to take to my dad's house to play cause I knew he'd like it too: "In all my travels I have never met anyone who professed a doctrine of hierarchical bigotry who didn't place themselves at the top of their social order. It's a blind, hateful, cruel, and cowardly arrogance. It is the rankest of stupidities. And the truth of it is, the people who hold such views, make themselves the worst of humanity. They are always the real monsters... The premise that you are somehow superior by virtue of your birth or heritage, is the most ignorant, poisonous, and conceited idea you could possibly entertain." And on to final thoughts: I did like Altered Carbon too, and another show a lot like it: The Doll House, starring Eliza Drushku who was Faith on Buffy and Angel. That was a phenomenal show that only lasted 2 seasons. I think of the Toclofane like Cybermen more than Daleks, but I can see it both ways. Oh and the Melania joke is fun, but if you ever heard her response to kids in cages, you realize she's just as bad as Don, like attracts like and they are evil together but separately. I pity Baron, what chance does he have not to grow up and be a douche too? Maybe he'll surprise us all and be like Ron Reagan Jr and become a staunch liberal! That'd be awesome, but I won't hold my breath.
@bennettnez4711
@bennettnez4711 Месяц назад
Its awesome hearing such unique takes on my favorite show. I love what you guys are doing, keep up the great work!
@chazo1367
@chazo1367 Месяц назад
“Of course. He’s the master.” That was actually wild to say lol
@michellejackson5011
@michellejackson5011 Месяц назад
The man she traveling with plays lucifer in the shoe lucifer
@boombam5214
@boombam5214 Месяц назад
I know you guys are taking a little break before going into the Christmas special and s4, but there's another online mini episode you guys should really check out before the Christmas special. It's 8 minutes and called "Time Crash: Children in Need Special", even if you don't film a reaction i hope you guys watch it.
@jollyrayda
@jollyrayda Месяц назад
I remember the hating on Martha - and totally not getting why. It took me a little while to warm to Rose - but I (and my housemate) thought Martha was awesome from the jump.
@Playwriter1234
@Playwriter1234 18 дней назад
I can’t wait till your start season 4
@ThBraveBraveSirRobin
@ThBraveBraveSirRobin 20 дней назад
I really liked Martha. Shame she didn’t get another full season. Not because she was a hottie (and boy she was a hottie), but because I saw the character grow in rather excellent ways. A full season where she wasn’t fawning over the Doctor would have been great.
@ROLANDSONOFSTEPHEN690
@ROLANDSONOFSTEPHEN690 Месяц назад
No Companion leaves without sadness! Martha Jones is top tier! Drum Drum Drum. I'm so glad you guys finished out this arc. I misunderstood your wrap up before. I thought you were taking a break from the older run. I'm glad thats not the case. Boa! Yes! Glad you guys are taking this ride!
@Stuart_Cox1969
@Stuart_Cox1969 Месяц назад
At the time it was all about Rose, and kinda still is, Rose has her own massive following, EVERY companion after her was "wrong", Who fans would get onboard and accept the new companions after a few episodes, but there was always, and still is the "they're not as great as Rose" squad, the writers just didn't know how to write for Martha, which is a damn shame, they could have, and should have done better for Martha in my opinion, and yeah they dropped her brother quick enough because they didn't know how to write for him either, a lot of dead ends in this season.
@bryanwalton
@bryanwalton 23 дня назад
Fun insight: The Toclafane were actually designed to be the villain for S1 E6, in the event the production couldn’t get the rights to use the Daleks (Doctor Who is one of the few shows in which the writers and designers retain the rights to their creations, e.g. Steven Moffat owns the rights to the Weeping Angels not the BBC). So your comparison of the Toclafane to the Daleks is actually apt.
@adamwhite2121
@adamwhite2121 Месяц назад
I Think the reason people didn't take to Martha was because the fans had grown to like like Billy over the past two years and were gutted when she left. It was the same with Eccleston and tenant even matt smith the next doctor. they aren't liked straight away they have to grow into the role. People have their favourite doctor and that's their doctor.
@Look_Over_There
@Look_Over_There Месяц назад
I always felt conflicted about Marthas speech even as a kid. I mean now i'm older I get the whole power dynamic/rebound from rose thing and I fully accept that Martha wasn't always treated right and that needed to be called out. But that flatmate story was a little bit of a reach, if the genders were swapped and it was a guy obsessed with a girl because she never looked at him twice and he spent all day talking about her that would be a huge red flag but when it's a woman it's the guys fault for not liking them back? I really like how Martha knew her own worth in the end, called the doctor out and left on her own terms but...nobody owes you the relationship you think you deserve with them.
@ricohutchinson9684
@ricohutchinson9684 Месяц назад
Haha I'm back on the right timeline governors 😂 keep up the great reactions the best of who yet to come
@dylancole1910
@dylancole1910 Месяц назад
The Face of Boe reveal is one of the BEST twists of the entire show. 😃 Please tell me you guys are going to watch the Time Crash minisode before the Christmas Special. Its one that’s not a necessity to the coming season but it’s worth the watch. I think it’s there in full on RU-vid, might not be the best quality but it’s watchable. 😃
@samwell54
@samwell54 Месяц назад
this episode is wild I always forget about the fuckinh spirit bomb ahaha
@malcolmrowe9003
@malcolmrowe9003 Месяц назад
I sometimes think of it as the "I believe in Fairies" moment.
@kiorili
@kiorili Месяц назад
Fun fact the one who welcome Martha à the begining of the épisode....is Lucifer Morningstar himself
@sineaterdred1
@sineaterdred1 Месяц назад
I sincerely hope that this break is not going to be too long from beginning season 4 because there's a lot of catching up to do. I agree that you ought to cover the new doctor as the episodes are available. But if you could squeeze an episode of catch-up in between, that would be nice. The Master is one of the Doctor's greatest antagonists and, I believe, one of his first enemies. However, don't look him up until you're all caught up 😉 🖖😎👍
@user-ef9vh2kc7y
@user-ef9vh2kc7y Месяц назад
After you guys have watched Nu-Who. Back to watching (2009) Series 4, there are Specials in order to catch up to, after seeing e13 episodes of S4. There are five Specials after S4 (2010). S4 ea "The Next Doctor" (Next Christmas Special) by Russell T Davies S4 eb "Planet of the Dead" by Russell T Davies & Gareth Roberts S4 ec "The Waters of Mars" by Russell T Davies & Phil Ford S4 ed "The End of Time" by Russell T Davies
@boombam5214
@boombam5214 Месяц назад
Despite being specials, I think these are listed as episodes 14-18 s4 on HBO which is what they use. I'm really excited for them to see The Waters of Mars, maybe one of the scariest who episodes for me.
@OldManFerdiad
@OldManFerdiad Месяц назад
The actor/presenter who played Leo (Reggie Yates) wasn't available for the finale so had to be written out.
@thew5262
@thew5262 Месяц назад
Let’s goooo, looking forward to this reaction lads!
@Syntell
@Syntell Месяц назад
Hope you enjoyed. Onward to season 4
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
@@Syntell :) Just you wait..... :)
@sdgidney4139
@sdgidney4139 Месяц назад
You two are wrong with the Z formation. Deep cut 💙💙
@jackthedude123
@jackthedude123 Месяц назад
Perfect timing 🤌🏻
@Syntell
@Syntell Месяц назад
Great way to start the week. Thank you for watching. Enjoy.
@briangilliver2197
@briangilliver2197 Месяц назад
Great reaction guys, I am happy to say I liked Martha from day one, she fitted in so well, and came into her own from middle to the end,. Xmas ep next, then more of the Doctor sit back relax enjoy for another great season,
@michaelp5956
@michaelp5956 Месяц назад
The Doctor lives through his companions awe and wonder. He's been there done that. Similar to why it's so enjoyable to watch your reactions to beloved stories, and some not so. Thank you both.
@1funkyflyguy
@1funkyflyguy Месяц назад
I loved Martha!
@phtevenj
@phtevenj Месяц назад
omg the face of boe reveal blew my shit away when i first saw it
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum Месяц назад
You guys have the best discussions! I hope the break isn't too long, as Season 4 is my favorite. 💖
@captainbobtheairfryingslow4161
@captainbobtheairfryingslow4161 Месяц назад
I'm loving this, such a pallet cleanser for the weak echo of the series we all used to love, that we have now.
@jankyteeth6213
@jankyteeth6213 Месяц назад
A solid finale and a cliffhanger. One thing that irked me in this finale Doctor became Space Jesus. It is one of those shows you were growing up, knew it isn’t perfect but appreciated watching as a kid.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
A born-again friend of mine was offended by this finale. I was mad that Rose got to be Dark Phoenix and [CENSORED] post-Martha while Martha had to settle to be John the Baptist :( In 2024, I have to deal with Martha's creation as an *independent, self-sufficient* character.
@karennowicki241
@karennowicki241 Месяц назад
LOL...space Jesus.
@gallifreyfazbear
@gallifreyfazbear Месяц назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️THE BEST, and a very tragic ending :(
@Persewna4
@Persewna4 Месяц назад
I'm both glad and sad you've already made it to the end of this season! Thoroughly enjoying the ride so far, looking forward to season 4 when after your break! So while you were discussing the Master, and how he didn't have the same experience of appreciating humanity after being one, as the Doctor and Dalek Sec did, it made me think of The Lord of the Rings. I never noticed it before, but the Doctor and Gandalf share some similarities, in that they are both very long lived beings who have a soft spot for a race of mortals that is not shared by their contemporaries. The Doctor has the Earth and humans, while Gandalf has the Shire and hobbits. They are both quite protective of their mortals, and often choose to spemd their time with them over their own kind. In doing so, they are afforded a different perspective on life, as seen by those who have a shorter time to enjoy it, and that nurtures their sense of empathy. In contrast, the Master and Saruman see only what they world can do for them, seeking to control others instead of understand them. For beings whose lives span hundreds and thousands of years, they may learn to devalue how precious a resource time can be. Seeing life through the eyes of human or hobbit can cultivate a respect and appreciation for that which is fleeting.
@technofilejr3401
@technofilejr3401 Месяц назад
26:29, Martha got out at a good time and on her own terms. As I said before there are some companions that stay too long...and they never can go home again. Riding with the Doctor Is like going on back to back crisis missions alongside Superman. Superman is bulletproof and practically immortal, but regular folks are not. RIP to the past and future companions who stayed too long.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
:( Yeah..... :(
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
Well, Martha is the one who has to save the world, so it makes sense for Tom to sacrifice himself to save her. The good news is that year reset now.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
Hell, I'd've run out to try to protect Martha, too! She's so, um, not ugly :) and kind and smart and... :)
@drunkeldian3150
@drunkeldian3150 Месяц назад
I obviously don't feel sorry for The Master or any sympathy for him in these episodes. But the scene of The Doctor begging him to regenerate and then groaning in pure agony after he dies, always makes me teary eyed. I feel so much of The Doctor's loneliness in that moment, where the second he thinks he has the chance of no longer being the last of his kind and being able to spend his life with his childhood friend (turned enemy), it's taken from him and he's back to being alone again. I can only imagine how much it hurts and of course this is all brilliantly sold by David Tennant's absolutely masterful performance.
@josearroyo8008
@josearroyo8008 Месяц назад
Showing what the doctor would look like if he showed all his years ...Jack's face of bo reveal make sense.
@technofilejr3401
@technofilejr3401 Месяц назад
44:31 Actually it’s not the Daleks fault…they were born that way
@scottredding7357
@scottredding7357 Месяц назад
“As if I would ask her to kill.”
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Месяц назад
Well, they had the internet, but the Master was controlling it at this point, I suppose.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
Right!
@JohnnyPappas
@JohnnyPappas 23 дня назад
I can’t say that Martha was my favorite companion, but she was definitely up there. You’ll be able to see her again soon no spoilers.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin Месяц назад
Another fantastic reaction from y'all! I actually preferred Martha over Rose. I think Martha was way more independent and she knew that the Doctor didn't return her affections. She knew her worth and she left on her own terms. I do believe racism played a role during her run. There's racism now because of the new Doctor (who is fantastic). These aren't the real Dr Who fans IMO. This show from the get go has been about equality and inclusivity. I can't wait to see y'all's reactions to the next companion!
@ajivins1
@ajivins1 Месяц назад
I don't think Race was a reason for people not liking Martha but you know, there are both sharp and not so sharp tools in the box! The thing was, she replaced Rose who some people were very fond of. I wasn't, she got o my nerves. Martha was great, a doctor who knew where she was going till she met the Doctor and deliberately walked out on him for those reasons. The Toclafane paradox was to be the future of humanity that killed themselves in the past before they could 'become'. A nice idea. Though I liked this one I didn't buy the Tinkerbell ("If everyone out there says 'I believe in Fairies' she'll come back to life") ending, nor the Superman 'time reversing' bit. The Doctor was bored on 'The Planet of Librarians' so escaped. By the Ninth's time, however he was a war veteran with PTSD and needed someone young like Rose to show him there was still life and joy out there. The Master has a history of humiliating the great and good I remember a famous scientist once who he made a clown in a circus (he was a master hypnotist in the early days). Still, those maid outfits could have been shorter...
@Legendary3Dgamer
@Legendary3Dgamer Месяц назад
26:25 😂😂😂😂
@BriMakesComments
@BriMakesComments Месяц назад
For a profile called BriaMakesComments I been a slacking here bro's. Ah theres a hacking reason and was then in guest profiles etc... but its about time to contribute. What a refreshing take on Who reactions and such fun you guys are. The way you relate the show to real life and see things through the eyes of a more mature audience is refreshing. Top commentary and understanding. Been around a while myself. 4 was my doc at 5 year old onwards and Sarah Jane my 1st crush haha. Am all over this and have been from day one. Thanks guys and ill try pop up more in future. You got the sub. Not sure if you ever check other Who reactors but if so, now or in future Id recommend Film Buff. Youd appreciate the way he does things though he is on hiatus at the mo. Peace
@jingtroc23
@jingtroc23 Месяц назад
Martha was my favs day 1, had a huge crush on her(still do on the actress), and it wasn't til years later i learned people didn't like her🤷🏿‍♂️. I read she did get some racists attacks, she says this herself, and i 100% believe a lot of people didn't like her because she was black and Rose was white and people felt betrayed like "how dare a black woman be with our white doctor" attitude. No point beung subtle about it, its how some morons are. However screw them inbreds, she is still the best companion imo, the most useful, resourceful, helpful, strongest, and best looking(if i were that doctor id have married her😂). Now most people rate her🤷🏿‍♂️, and i wonder how many of those people are the ones who judged her at first because of her skin colour and now dont, because now everyone likes her, so you know theres got to be plenty who pretend they are not one of them, but by logic it can't be everyone because most disliked her.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
It would be like making Supergirl Latin or Batgirl Black in America :)