Doctor Who - The Missing Episodes | Part 1 | Marco Polo, Reign of Terror & The Crusade 

Harry Robins thanks! I was aiming for DVD feature level 😂

Oh, you accomplished it! :)

I agree!!

Josh Snares You have certainly have. Even a lifelong Doctor Who fan I’ve found out things of long forgotten - and things I’ve never known till now.

@@JoshSnares Can I download the full version of this and put it on a DVD?

Absolutely true? Verified? Verified by whom? I have seen this tale reported as fact by a few places online (including a forum post by Ian Levine), but they never seem to cite a primary source or any evidence to back up the story. I don't doubt that such a thing could have happened (as you mentioned, there definitely was an asshole BBC employee in the 80s who continued to junk returned prints for no reason), just that the event would be known to us if it did.

@@christiancrowell4698 Richard Molesworth who quite literally wrote the book on missing episodes confirmed it, he had viewed the paperwork himself. He or Paul Vanezis are the ones to query for further info on this matter.

@@zuniverse3218 thanks for the reply. Damn now my day is ruined haha.

Your passion is admirable.

Considering the BBC's attitude towards Doctor Who at the time, I'm not too shocked.

you'd think Tom Baker's tenure, bringing the franchise into supernova status, and the home video market, would've changed that. Apparently not!

Well, I don't believe it. The BBC were actively searching for missing episodes by then. They wouldn't have turned these down.

True, but i reckon every business or company has always employed somebody or some ignorant persons who don't really give a crap and they let their total ignorance's of their own work place dictate to them what decisions they personally make and not what the BBC generally would've done naturally. But yeah, in a decade which saw; Shada being release onto VHS tape (with a video narration from Tom Baker himself) in 1992. Along with the newly rediscovered Tombs Of The Cybermen in 1991. its hard to imagine in 1993 they'd turn down Marco Polo or The Reign Of Terror once it was offered to them so soon afterwards!

@@MGSBigBoss77 I think you're right. If they did turn them down it could very well have been someone who didn't care or didn't know.

I assume that has something to do with the fact that it's entirely missing... :)

carealoo744 pretty much, I also heard that the sets looked very nice and it’s hard to tell in the reconstruction.

I'd love to see that one, too. Most of the historical serials were very boring judging by the recons, but this one I really enjoyed.

I once listened to the entire audio book, during a car trip. I also got: 'The Reign Of Terror,' audio book, back when I was a completionist, and thought I would aim to get all of them. How silly I was!

I had the novelization. 😢

Allegedly. There's no rock-hard proof that there was any missing material in the films offered back in the 90s or the Telesnaps in Cura's collection. But it's quite true that they were both rejected, and the possibility remains.

@@KieranHighman Exactly. There may not have been proof, but it's still possible. And in the case of the telesnaps, it's material they didn't have then, even if they have it now.

wait The bbc knew that they would make a bunch of money they real don't have self presservation instincts

As I've just mentioned on another post, worse than that, the BBC were still routinely WIPING stuff well into the early 1990s, as much as they try to play it down! Shocking.

We are forever in their debt. I talk about two of the more prolific recorders next episode in more detail :)

Me too!

The problem with videotape back then was just the cost of the media ($200 a cassette or more) and the cameras (thousands of dollars for BOTH camera recorders and set-top players). That's the reason it didn't take off until the early 1980s, really. They had to come up with more economical consumer formats. They had home players as early as 1963 but they were just too expensive and over the years more companies came and went with their own machines and tape formats. The economical standardization didn't come until VHS and Beta arrived. They had videotape in the 1950s and there are number of TV specials recorded in the late 1950s on videotape that still survive. They were eventually digitized or transferred to film like the surviving color clips of the 1960s Carson Tonight Show episodes were. The thing is what they had (videotape-wise) for the original Doctor Who was BETTER than what we got for VHS. Way-higher resolution, at least two times VHS quality. VHS is crap, guys. It wears out and the quality is at best inconsistent. I never liked the format that much, TBH. I grew up with it and besides the color issues (NTSC = "NEver The Same Color TWICE!") the audio recording was often bad in store-bought tapes. I don't know how many tapes I bought of movies and TV shows (had half the original Star Trek on VHS!) that had that horrible humming on them and it wasn't the play -- it was the stupid tape and poor processing of it! I never bought that much on VHS. I've watched a few Troughton serials on DVD and now the last storyarc Hartnell appeared in as the regular lead. What survived is in pretty good condition considering they viewed this as disposable entertainment! Ah, if they only knew--! The only way we'll get the missing episodes this point is if they DO more animated reconstructions with the surviving audio. I don't think they'll find much else. Maybe 3-4 more missing episodes on 16mm transfers but I think they've found pretty much all they ever will of what survived the great BBC tape wiping.

Yeah that's true about home video being so costly. There was a copy made of The Ice Warriors in the 1960s by a university lecturer who had access to the equipment. He made them so his sick son could watch them while he recuperated from whatever he had wrong with him. Then of course as he didn't own the tapes and they were needed for their proper purpose they were reused. Including the 2 still missing episodes.

Thank you!

SeaDevilLagoon thank you! Happy you’re enjoying it 😀

Gareth thank you!

I don't even want to think about that!

Or watching black and white duplicates of Tom Baker episodes.

Darren79 thank you! I’ll be talking about the recently discovered Randolph Tapes in Part 3!

Shard1 I feel the same about television history, it’s a sad loss

@@JoshSnares There's one serial in particular that I really want to see in its completion, "The Faceless Ones."

The Jacal oof! That was a looooong time ago! If I ever did it, I think I’d have to start from scratch! 😂

@@JoshSnares If you did start from scratch, it'd be even better. O know it takes time to do...... No pressure....! The Savages is one story I'd absolutely love to see returned. Who knows? One day maybe.

EchoWing I feel the same! I’m happy with animations myself

I’d rather have The Crusaders be returned because then that would make Season 2 the only B&W era season of DW to have no affected serials.

Thank you! I hope you enjoy the rest of the series :)

Lewis thank you!!

Jack Stevenson if you could, that’d be great!

That's the first thing I'll do when I invent time travel. After that, I'll go back in time and save the lost silent films.

@@hungrydragonvsfrightendhob7799 save the rest of The Quartermass Experiment and for that matter save all of it as the once that exist (ep 1 and 2 of 6) are in low quality

Thank you, Steve!

camdenguy thank you!

The Who Collection thank you!

Thank you! Next episode out very soon!

Maybe it’s like that for every missing episode. Just imagine, we have all of “The Daleks Master Plan” and “The Abominable Snowmen” but the BBC is waiting for a few more episodes to be found to announce the news to the public

@@TheDigitalApple It would be strange but if they’re waiting for a certain episode from a story that’s complete now that they have found I could see that happening at one point

That could be true, not only is the anniversary of dr who starting in 2023 but that happened to the web of fear in 2013, Philip Morris tried to find the web of fear ep 3 so the bbc did not announce the recovery until 2013.

JPR Guy thank you!

David Dumbell oh wow! Derren is a brilliant actor.

Ya they need to animate it

conanfan1412 great choice!

Hell no. At least the missing episodes still have audio, they could be recreated (mission to the unknown), animated etc, all that and have endless doctor who in the future.

Alan Brown happy you enjoyed it!

Released two months after I published this video 😂😂

Damian Karras SJ thank you!

I'll be doing three serials an episode, so only a 9-part series! 33 might make everyone a bit tired haha!

Sadly, the highest quality ones that are available on Dailymotion, but I'm fairly sure higher quality encodes exist out there. Wouldn't have a clue how to find them, myself! Thanks for watching :)

TigerMan1995 they’re hidden in the depths of Dailymotion, sorry I didn’t keep links!

Brad Phipps that’s interesting, didn’t know that :)

proudtobeated are these the Randolph Tapes? I discuss them in Part 2 :)

James Crosse yeah I like to keep it subjective! I generally prefer animations, but many don’t. I like it to be up to the viewer!

proudtobeated very exciting!

@@JoshSnares yes, who knew that these old reel to reel tapes would cause a stir. I'm glad I have them to Rob, I actually suggested that he put them on eBay to see if he could make a few quid!

metalmugen they are so good!!

If I knew the answer to that, we wouldn’t be here!! Haha

Jac0Frost0, have you actually considered the fact that your Lost in Time DVD box set will not play on your Blu-ray Player, because the discs are meant to be played on an actual DVD player ? Your Blu-ray player will only play Blu-ray discs.

@@christopherpearson3266 I did not. I’ll see if I can get my hands on one. Thank you

@@Jac0Frost0SCZ , Also make sure that your Lost in Time DVD box set discs Region corresponds with the correct DVD player machine Region i.e. Region 1 discs to be played on a Region 1 DVD player or Region 2 discs to be played on a Region 2 DVD player etc. Also if you are lucky enough to get your hands on a multi-regional DVD player, that means the machine will play all DVD Regions 1,2,3,4 etc.

I really didn't want to make an account that’s a good point, it’d be nice to have a “complete” season for Hartnell!

@@JoshSnares I'm surprised that the BBC hasn't done that yet. Especially with all the news about the Classic Series being on Blu-Ray, Season 2 should really be up there alongside Tom's first, last and Peter's first.

Tyranniod it’s always sad when an episode is missing 😩