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Doctor Who What If: Tom Baker Had Left Earlier? 

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Hi everyone. Here's another What If, this time trying to answer the question; What If Tom Baker Had Left Earlier (as in left at the end of Season 15)?

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@joshsobchak9902
@joshsobchak9902 Год назад
Imagine if Tom Baker regenerated at the end of Key to Time and Lalla Ward was the 5th Doctor...
@mickeythompson9537
@mickeythompson9537 Год назад
I want to live in the dimensions where Jim Dale and David Dixon are The Doctor.
@PatchestheCanadianneko
@PatchestheCanadianneko Год назад
Tom Baker was one of the best Dr. Who actors I have ever seen in history.
@johnlarro6872
@johnlarro6872 Год назад
David Dixon as Ford Prefect just absolutely works beautifully. As the Doctor? Yes! I could see him pulling it off. Would the BBC have gone with this idea? Well - they employed an umemployed actor working as a brickie last time...
@digipeeper
@digipeeper Год назад
Ford Prefect is very Doctoresque and David Dixon’s acting is very Timelordish. He was perfect as the Doctor.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
My thoughts exactly! Although it wasn't my idea to cast him originally. :)
@digipeeper
@digipeeper Год назад
@@BillWhovian well I had that idea in 1993 when the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy first came out on VHS and I watched that 100 times as I was obsessed with it.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
@digipeeper Cool. I meant as in there was someone called Carrie on Twitter who made a post about it a while ago. :)
@frontios1014
@frontios1014 Год назад
David Dixon would have been a great 5th doctor. I probably prefer your second timeline with the extra story for season 16 to introduce the 5th doctor. I think that era of the show could have been interesting. Especially that in this timeline, the third doctor Jon Pertwee would have been considered the longest running actor to play the doctor for 5 seasons in a row. And Tom Baker would have been second place to that title.
@1000guy1
@1000guy1 Год назад
And in that timeline jon pertwee would still be the longest serving actor to protray the doctor
@frontios1014
@frontios1014 Год назад
@@1000guy1 That's what I said.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
That's a really interesting point about Pertwee being technically the longest running Doctor in this alternate timeline. I hadn't realised that :)
@mjanovec
@mjanovec Год назад
It makes more sense for Tom to depart at the end of Season 16, regenerating after a climactic battle with the Black Guardian over the Key to Time. That would give more importance to the Key to Time story arc, instead of the weak conclusion it currently has. The Doctor dies while preventing the Key from falling into the Black Guardian’s hands, only to be saved by the White Guardian as reward for restoring balance to the cosmos. Romana is also injured during the battle and regenerates in time for Season 17. That also eliminates the silly plot point that Romana regenerated simply because she wanted to.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Don't forget we're talking about the Graham Williams era. That era had a heavy emphasis on humour. What you're describing would be far more in line with the first RTD era's dramatic series finales rather than the Graham Williams era. I'm not saying it's impossible for Season 16 to end like that mind you. Just that it doesn't really fit the direction the show was going in at that time. So I'm very unsure whether a Season 16 that had Tom leaving at the end would have such a dramatic ending like that
@mjanovec
@mjanovec Год назад
@@BillWhovian Well, I assume we're just playing a fun game of hypothetical situations here. Graham Williams introduced the concept of the Guardians in Season 16, it would make sense to have the Doctor battle the Black Guardian as a finale to the season arc. It's more meaningful than dying at the end of a gun for Season 15.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
@mjanovec Oh don't get me wrong. It's a great idea, and far far better than what we got. It would make the Key to Time have more stakes. I'm just not sure if I can picture Graham Williams and Anthony Read going with it. I do plan on making a video about what if Tom had left after Season 16 one day though.
@ZoahLord
@ZoahLord Год назад
Very interesting. I'd go with Scenario 1, although I'd wonder if our Season 17's stories would still be used for the hypothetical Season 18 once JNT took over, however it would work if hypothetically he became Producer 1 year later than usual. Perhaps Graham Williams would have stayed on longer if he found David Dixon to be more agreeable to the direction he wanted to take the show, compared to Tom Baker
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Yes sorry I should've clarified this in the video. I intended to imply that Graham Williams would stay on for another year. :)
@RabbiB0Y
@RabbiB0Y 9 месяцев назад
I could misremember but I'm pretty sure most of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy is made around abandoned doctor who scripts snd story lines Douglas Adams had before leaving the show
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 9 месяцев назад
Indeed it was! Douglas Adams was never one to forget an idea! 😆
@christopheralthouse6378
@christopheralthouse6378 5 месяцев назад
And boy did I LOVE the original televised version of Primary Phase… A shame the BBC didn’t televise the rest of the series…Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent feel like if the Fourth and Fifth Doctors had traveled together simultaneously and I LOVE IT for that! 😅😍🥰😁
@joshuaverran9443
@joshuaverran9443 2 месяца назад
I'm glad he didn't otherwise he wouldn't be the iconic Doctor he is today and he helped keep the show going for more years had Tom left sooner i think the series would had ended sooner then you have no 80's Who.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 2 месяца назад
I don't think the show would've ended if Tom had left sooner than he did. It continued without him pretty well for a few years. It was only the likes of Michael Grade hating the show that led to its cancellation in 89.
@vinniequick
@vinniequick Год назад
can we get if Matt Smith was the Doctor after Stolen Earth and the hand Regeneration worked
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Yep I'll do that at some point :)
@filmunion8194
@filmunion8194 Год назад
Robert Caryle as the Doctor rather than Matt
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
@@filmunion8194 That's an interesting idea! 🤔
@royalewithcheese9291
@royalewithcheese9291 Год назад
@filmunion8194 He'd definitely have been my pick had the Doctor fully regenerated in The Stolen Earth.
@vinniequick
@vinniequick Год назад
@@filmunion8194 Russel Tovey I think he’s called the guy that played Allonso was always auditioned and even ready to play the role well that or Peter Capaldi
@olaoluwapowilliams5169
@olaoluwapowilliams5169 Год назад
What would David Dixon’s Fifth Doctor be like in terms of characterisation? Would his Doctor be similar to his character in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to The Galaxy?
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Not 100% sure, but I imagine a mix of his Ford Prefect and how the Fourth Doctor was in Seasons 15-17. So quite comical and quirky. But I imagine he would have his more serious moments, like the Fourth Doctor shouting at the Pirate Captain in the Pirate Planet. :)
@leipherd8118
@leipherd8118 Год назад
David Collings for me, with Jonathan Pryce as 6th.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
I thought of going with David Collings, but I wasn't too sure if he would suit the Graham Williams era's more light-hearted approach. Although I only know him from more serious roles, so who knows? Maybe he could've pulled it off 🤔
@xenbear
@xenbear 2 месяца назад
Robert Powell should have followed Tom as the Doctor ! He'd have been superb as the Doctor (watch The 39 Steps if in doubt !)
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 2 месяца назад
Not heard of him before, but I'll check his work out :)
@finnsempire5671
@finnsempire5671 Год назад
Please do Sylvester 😊
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
I'll be doing that within the next few months don't worry :)
@ryanlamb2636
@ryanlamb2636 Год назад
Hi mate when will the what if video will be of colin baker, sylvester mccoy video will be out out what month.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Colin Baker will be sometime next week (so July). And McCoy will be in early August (it might end up being a very long one, so I'm going to need a while to work on it some more). Any beyond that don't have definite dates yet, although I'm hoping the What If TV Movie Had Been A Success and What If the Revival Didn't Happen will be coming out early September. :)
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq 9 месяцев назад
Fun that. One point though. Wouldn't it make more sense to have Rodan regenerate into Roman 1?
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 9 месяцев назад
Yes that would be an interesting idea 🤔
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 Год назад
The Doctor regenerates into David Jason he wears a black pinstripe suit grey trilby and has a red rosette Tearing of the Veil will be the first Christmas Special and features the return of the Mandagora Helix as the poltergeist and Richard Murdoch as Canon Peter Hamilton Pirate Planet features the Masters daughter played by Diana Rigg This alternate version of 5 will unique to most Doctors he will be cowardly at first but overtime grows tactical in his thinking and acts as a mentor figure he uses Cockney rhyming slang he is a mix of the Seventh Doctor and 12
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
When I saw David Jason's name, I thought you were going to suggest a Doctor Who version of Only Fools and Horses 🤣
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 Год назад
I would have save said he regenerated at the end of the key to time season tbh
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
I'll be doing that at some point as well.
@xheralt
@xheralt Год назад
7 years in the role is too much. 3 years in the role is too little (unless things aren't working out). 5 years should be the default term.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
I think it should just stay as the actor's choice, but I understand where you're coming from :)
@mark-s
@mark-s Год назад
He should have left In season 15 when stories starting to decline
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
I quite like the Graham Williams era myself, but fair enough. I respect your opinion. :)
@mark-s
@mark-s Год назад
​@@BillWhovianno his seasons was my low point on classic who well other than most of the 6th doctor stories
@joshuaverran9443
@joshuaverran9443 2 месяца назад
​@@mark-s I respect your opinion but I disagree.
@Charlie_Duz
@Charlie_Duz Год назад
David Dixon and/or David Collings. Anyone called David, really. How about that David Tennant chap? I've heard he's rather good.
@GrahamPointer1972
@GrahamPointer1972 Год назад
I feel with hindsight he should have left at the end of Season 16. He and Romana had defeated the Black Guardian, and were on the run from him. I see Romana's regeneration as part of this going-on-the-run, as the Black Guardian's followers would know what she and the Doctor looked like. It would then be sensible for the Doctor to also regenerate. And the Doctor and Romana would decide to sort out the chamaeleon circuit, so a visit to Logopolis would be on the cards.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
So you're saying have Logopolis at the end of Season 16?
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
If so, I don't know if Logopolis would've worked as part of the Graham Williams. It's very evocative of Christopher Bidmead's vision for the show. :)
@normanby100
@normanby100 Год назад
The climax to Armageddon would have the Black Guardian getting angry and zapping the TARDIS. Both the Doctor and Romana are fatally injured and have to regenerate and a damaged K9 has an excuse to sit out Destiny and City of Death instead of laryngitis,
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 Год назад
​@BillWhovian personally I wouldn't mind if the story of Logopolis didn't happen. D The Doctor fixed it himself in attack of the cybermen
@drwho-hj1pu
@drwho-hj1pu 8 месяцев назад
Im glad you brought up david dixon i do agree he had the look for the dr. If not for the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy he might have been considered along richard griffiths for the 5th dr.
@ryanlamb2636
@ryanlamb2636 Год назад
Hi mate nice video mate, when will your next what if videos will be mate.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Because it took me a while to make this one, the next What If (What If Peter Davison Had Stayed For Season 22?) won't come out until next Tuesday now unfortunately. :)
@ryanlamb2636
@ryanlamb2636 Год назад
@@BillWhovian no problem mate, I don't mind waiting mate.
@yui4779
@yui4779 Месяц назад
I have ideas Roger Moore, Sean Connery, George lazenby or Timothy Dalton
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Месяц назад
You mean what if they were the Doctor? 🤔
@yui4779
@yui4779 Месяц назад
@@BillWhovian Yea I think Roger or George would be a great Fourth doctor
@OzBaxter
@OzBaxter Год назад
Nice timeline! I love exploring What If's like that with Who. I've always thought it would have been interesting to have Tom leave two years earlier, cast a slightly younger Colin Baker as a different kind of 5th Doctor. He gets three years, until the 20th when you get maybe Rowan Atkinson (I adore the David Dixon choice, so maybe he would work here?) as the 6th, give him about three or four seasons and THEN you cast Peter Davison as the 7th Doctor. Davison's appearance in DIMENSIONS IN TIME (as rough as that is) showed me a seasoned, slightly-older "Fifth Doctor" in his prime. That's a Peter Davison I would liked to have seen full time. Throw in Richard E Grant as the 8th Doctor, and Paul McGann as the 9th or War Doctor, and proceed on from there. Just some fun what-if headcanon to consider. Great video! :)
@htershane
@htershane 5 месяцев назад
I always think of Ford, particularly Dixon’s version, as the Doctor in his student years. It would have been terrible if Baker had gone in “Invasion of Time” it was such a shoddy end to a series. “Armageddon Factor” would have been a better end for an alternate Baker departure. I’ve always been intrigued as to who Graham Williams would have cast had he had to, Dixon wouldnt have been on William’s radar then (I think he was Alan Bell’s find) so I reckon Iain Cuthbertson would be a contender, although his turn in Ribos might have nixed that🤔
@ryanlamb2636
@ryanlamb2636 Год назад
Are you still doing what if tom baker stayed for season 19 mate.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
If you check my community tab and see my latest post, you'll see that it's still on my list of ones I'm definitely going to do :)
@travishiltz4750
@travishiltz4750 Год назад
Why make Rodan (a proto-Romana) a companion and then have her replacement be Romana? And we are switching to K-9 mark 2? Maybe instead of Romanna, have Rodan regenerate into Mary Tamm and Laila Ward? Also, don't love some of your episode juggling, as it feels random. Might have also wanted to split this into two episodes, as the Peter Davidson stuff feels rushed and leaves me with many questions
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
Sorry to hear that the approach I took wasn't for you
@travishiltz4750
@travishiltz4750 Год назад
@@BillWhovian Just thought you took on a lot of ideas ( most of which I liked. Forgot to mention Dixon was a good choice) just think you had trouble juggling them.
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian Год назад
@@travishiltz4750 Fair enough :)
@mickmufson1824
@mickmufson1824 11 месяцев назад
Will you also make What If Tom Baker stayed for Season 19?
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 11 месяцев назад
Yep it's on my list. But don't expect it until the new year. :)
@mickmufson1824
@mickmufson1824 11 месяцев назад
@@BillWhovian Will you also make What If Each Doctor left a season earlier then they did in our timeline?
@BillWhovian
@BillWhovian 11 месяцев назад
@mickmufson1824 For some of them yes, like perhaps Pertwee, Tom and Davison. :)
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