Does Disney’s New TCG Lorcana Mean Doom For Magic: The Gathering? No. 

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Can't wait for The Professor to start showcasing his Pluto Tribal Pauper decks

Playing Lorcana has been a blast. I like that every card has an effect and none are “just lands”

I'm really excited for Lorcana for one reason. I have a lot of friends and family that refuse to touch magic cards, but might be willing to play a TCG if its characters they know and love already.

I'm excited for Lorcana because my wife and daughter are excited, and they have never cared about a card game before. I'm hoping this can be a good first step into the world of TCGs for a lot of people who never would've considered it before

Nothing can kill Magic except for Magic at this point.

As long as I can build a deck based around Winnie the Pooh, I’m in.

As someone with a little daughter who loves Disney characters, I feel like this would be a great stepping stone for her into a hobby her dad has loved for many, many years. As well as being thematically friendly for her age.

At least in my area, this has not aged well. At this point in my local LGS each week there is about 40 people playing Lorcana every week, 20 FaB, 20 Yo-gi-Oh, 20 One Piece every two weeks and exactly no more regular Magic players. To be fair, the sentence "Lorcana cannot unseat Magic" is true as Magic has just completely given up on LGS and enticing new players. So there is nothing to unseat. Magic has just left LGS apart from small FNM in bigger cities.

10:58 "I love showcase art, and I'm mostly OK with Secret Lair, and with Universe Beyond,... I love showcase art" you cracked me there!

I wish Mtg would fear Lorecana, they would make a better effort on offering good deals

Well, here we are a year later and my LGS has Friday Night Lorcana and Friday Night Magic. Lorcana tables are always full and bleeding over to tables that used to be MTG.

I love that you mentioned digimon. It’s really thriving and while it’ll never counter magic, I hope it establishes a long-lasting community

I know it might sound strange but one reason to look forward to Lorcana to me would be convincing a somewhat estranged family member to get into TCGs. She's a huge Disney fan, but always hated on MTG even though my siblings and I love to play. She wouldn't even hear us out about why we liked the game, but with this Disney branding, I know she's going to be interested. My hope is that we can mend some family ties and explore this new game together, and maybe someday, she would even let us explain what MTG is really all about.

As someone who's dabbled in MTG over the years but has always felt sort of like they got into the hobby too late, Lorcana looks to be the answer to that issue; being here at the game's inception is far more appealing than sinking a bunch of money and research into an existing and established property. Plus, when it comes to just opening packs, it's going to be a treat to actually recognise and be surprised by cards depicting characters and artefacts that I enjoy. I'll certainly be someone who plays Lorcana as well as collecting it, but it'll also be far easier to open a pack and go "Oh hell yeah, I got Tarzan!" instead of "Oh that artwork is kind of cool, no idea if it's a good card though, let me go home and Google it." Ultimately, I'm the kind of person (especially with a girlfriend who only has a passing interest in tabletop and card games but adores Disney) for whom Lorcana seems the best of both worlds.

While Lorcana is not going to replace Magic, Pokemon or Yugioh, it is a stable game. I disagree with prof, Lorcna will be a player first - collector second game. I lave many MtG decks, but have started selling off my magic cards. I already have and playing 4 Lorcana decks at my LGS. The biggest threat to Lorcana would be losing their Disney license, which would be - game over. What I like about Lorcana is its freshness in deck design, strategies, and am hoping for a competitive format. I am not a collector and only partially care about the fun Disney art on the cards. I am after coming up with new deck strategies and seeing it work in games. I do know Lorcana is selling like hot cakes and that alone will give it some drive. I agree, many TCG's have come and gone over the years. Riot's online digital tcg, Legends of Runeterra, just bit the dust and while Pokemon is going good, their new online tcg platform is just trash. Lorcana, Flesh and Blood and the slew of new tcg's hitting the market will not topple Magic, Hasbro is capable of doing that in one fell swoop.

I think Lorcana is going to bring more people to Magic. Eventually.

I usually skip the ad portion but I'm glad I didn't this time because it makes me happy to hear that the Prof is listening to Sabriel. I love that series and I'm surprised it's not more popular.

Lorcana looks a lot of fun for an uber-casual environment. Ive definitely mentioned it to some non-TCG playing friends and theyve been interested, so going to build a ton of themed decks to play with.

As soon as I heard about lorcana I was excited because I thought it could be a good intro to TCGs for my kids. We love Disney themed games and I love MTG but it’s a bit complicated for my littles. I also could see myself collecting the cards as well 😮

My fav thing about Lorcana is that it will remove a lot of Secret Lair ips from the pool and hopefully slow that down.

I love how Prof threw in that oh so subtle at TappyToeClaws calling her stitch

Watching this a year later seeing how wrong he was about the competitive lorcana scene is funny. Been witnessing more and more tcg players swapping games to play Lorcana.

The main designer was on board with Magic way back in Core Set 2011. What I consider a great time to play magic the gathering. Things are not like that now. But with him leading the charge it has me interested in Lorcana to say the least.

The best way I would put this is to spend 5 minutes listing every single major TCG that came out in the last 10 years and ask if any of those even put a dent in mtg

Flesh And Blood player here! I also play MTG casually from time to time, either physical or digital. I'm very interested in Lorcana. I really like Disney, and I have kids that are just in the right age when this comes out next year to maybe care about it. I don't see them being into Pokémon a lot, but Lorcana might be something they'll be interested in playing, so that's a main reason for me to check it out. I hope for it to be a fun casual game, I don't see myself getting really compettive in it. Could be fun just for collecting, too.

I Never even thought about lorcana could kill magic, but I think every form of competition is good for us as players right?

Art and templating are the first things that draw me to a card game and I think Lorcana is doing great in that regard (though I don’t actually believe the cards look anything like mtg cards). Now I wanna know what the rules are.

I would love to see a 'How to play Lorcana in 15 minutes' video

I'm a big fan Prof, but I feel like parts of this video are in slightly bad faith. The only people who are referring to Lorcana as a 'Magic Killer' are content creators/articles such as yourself, whilst I feel Ravensburger will probably be happy with taking a share of the market and are probably more focused on the Pokemon crowd than the Magic one. I do agree that the downfall of Lorcana will come from it's collectability drying up availability before it's actual target audience even sees it on the shelf... I can only hope that this is preempted and we see supplies flood Targets/Walmarts early on. Whilst Ravensburger have announced a 'robust Organised Play program', I won't hold my breath and instead just hope that this game actually gets into the hands of the families and kids that it's aimed at.

Garth Nix's Old Kingdom series is one of my favorite book series of all time and I was genuinely shocked to hear it come up in the sponsorship. They're amazing dark fantasy books that deserve a lot more exposure.

I am really looking forward to Lorcana! Am a big big Disnerd though, and play magic! If the game is at least as good as Villainous, then I am hopeful!

Garth Nix was my favorite writer when I was younger. The Aborshen series (Sabriel) and Shade's Children are amazing books. Glad to see it getting some visibility here on one of my favorite MTG channels!

Answers the question right in the title. That's anti-clickbait at its finest.

Yeah nothing has defeated world of warcraft... But professor, have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV? With an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of A Realm Reborn and the award winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 for free with no restrictions on playtime?

There is nothing more stunning in modern day fantasy art than a really well done full on borderless magic card imo.

Good point on the cohesion. It's been growing for a while (especially IMHO with the D&D Showcases) and Lorcana might be the thing to reveal it as an issue.

I am excited for Lorcana because Villainous is a good introductory version of Commander for playing with friends and family who don't want to learn things like, "Untap, upkeep, draw." I'm hopeful that Lorcana will be similarly simplified and with those helpful reminder cards, while also being deep and meaningful in its gameplay.

You focus way too much on debunking Lorcana as a Magic-killer and not enough on the actual exciting aspect of the game: its potential to expand the hobby.

1 year later. I have fully switched from MTG to Lorcana after the Lord of the Rings MTG set. I've introduced 4 people to Lorcana and play with them. They know about MTG but haven't played it. The MTG group I used to play with has fizzled out.

I am getting more and more excited for Lorcana, and aside from wanting to collect pretty Disney cards, I mostly want to see how the "Type/Subtype" lines affect gameplay 🙂 (Dreamborn, Floodborn, etc.).

Lorcana does have that nostalgia factor of being what I and many other people grew up loving and watching. So for me the collecting of all my childhood favorites and having them as cards sounds amazing

For anyone coming to this video recently, Lorcana just had their first regionals in Atlanta and Lille, both had 2000 players playing. Ravensburger also gave out serialized cards for the winners. Regionals for Chicago (1024) and Texas (2048) are also sold out. There have been some growing pains for sure, but whatever FUD you hear about "printing into the ground," "not collectible," "not a real game," etc., try it out for yourselves. The game is catered towards players and collectors, regardless of your background. All Disney fans are welcome. If you care about the secondary market, it's actually one of the healthiest I've seen in any TCG in a long time.

I am interested to know what your options are now after a year? I'm not saying it's an MTG killer, just the competitive sense of it. I stopped playing MTG after 20 to play Lorcana. I don't care for Disney its the way the game plays that drew me in.

I'm interested in hopefully using it as a gateway drug to get my kids into TCG games. We'll have to see how heavy the game is rules-wise, hopefully it's not overly complicated on release!

The guffaw I let out when you said Tappy Toe Claws 🤣

MTG player/pin collector/CM here, I'm hoping this game is something I can play with my co workers/friends who are not into mtg. When I was working at D23 the foil versions of these initial cards sold out so fast. I could only get my hands on the promo mickey card. It looks like a fun lighthearted game, and I'm excited for my mouse overload to throw his hat into the ring.

I would have thought the same thing until I picked the game up and had more fun than ever did with magic, also much more welcoming community and easier to bring in family and friends. Surprisingly has the easy to learn with alot of depth style of development. Can't get enough.

If I was going to build a deck with this I would make an all villian deck the bad guys are always the coolest.

Really curious to see how Lorcana plays. Hoping it will be a lighter version of MTG with just enough depth to make it engaging. I can see myself having fun collecting and playing Lorcana, if the gameplay ends up being decent.

It's gonna be the Collecting aspect for me. Unless the game is extremely well balanced, people are gonna find the best cards in a week, then the prices for those cards will skyrocket (like that one cloak thing from Flesh and Blood that was basically their Black Lotus, except legal in their Standard, so budget decks weren't as competitive)

The thing about Lorcana is it fills a niche to play with people that aren’t into MTG. You can teach someone to play in 10-15 mins and have a blast. It’s an easy TCG to learn but a really hard game to master. I don’t think it could ever replace MTG which is a far superior TCG but Lorcana is also brand new. The only thing I dislike about Lorcana is it’s a Disney product, but if it gets friends and family to play a TCG around the dining room table I’m sold.

I’m interested in seeing how Lorcana is played so hope it does well

I tap my Millennium Falcon to put Han Solo into play. Han Solo's keyword ability "transport" is activated allowing me to search my library for 2 protagonists and put them into play. I choose Ariel and Mulan. Now I transform Ariel to her human form which triggers Mulan's keyword ability "avalanche" to destroy your entire field. This gives me 1 "Snow-covered Villain Token". Now I pay this token as a cost to play the instant "Infinity Snap" which allows me to rewrite reality and turn any villain I control to another of my choosing. I choose the Legendary Thanos. Once Thanos is in play I gain 6 infinity stones, I then use all 6 to deal 4 damage per stone to you for 24 damage in total. You lose.

Can’t wait for the professor to talk about lorcana again

You are only considering past player of magic moving to Lorcana, in that scenario Magic will always win since it has not only the investment for people but also a very reach universe of mechanics. The problem is for new generations, magic is really hard for someone new, commander is a fix for that in a sense but still I feel new generations can be incline to something that is getting started and will learn mechanics along Lorcana’s development.

Just like a famouse World of Warcraft King once said: No King rules forever. I do think there will be a day where MTG gets dethroned as the biggest card game in the market, but it’s not today or even remotely close. That said, Wotc should be careful not to grow complacent. I do think Disneys attempt at a card game is strong just because it has universal appeal for the most part. The trick is how they handle organized play. That has me really concerned. I think recently weve seen a bunch of good card games come into the market and I think Lorecana will just become another one of those games that are played at times, but nothing to challenge the big 3.

I get the exact same vibe from Lorcana - Disney saw the explosion of collector markets in the TCG space and decided it wanted in. That's almost certainly what pushed Booster Fun/Secret Lair in the WOTC halls - and I'd even go so far as to theorize they got word this game was coming that helped push Universes Beyond out to us before it was fully cooked (see: Walking Dead)

I don’t see lorcana being killed by magic but if magic keeps oversaturating the game mtg might off itself

Never underestimate one thing: Disney is almost unbeatable at cross-polination and marketing. They used to have a TCG for years in Florida called sorcerers of the magic kingdom that was a PVE card game experience and some people would spend their days with binders in the parks looking for trades… …but then a special ticketed event would give you a unique card, or you’d get a free pack per day, or when you beat a difficulty mode, etc. Lorecana on its own will not dethrone MTG, but the day Disney decides to set up « get your starter deck » station in the parks or at Disney Springs and then tie exclusive cards / arts to various Disney activities (Captain Mickey when you board the cruise ship, for example) it has the potential to become a very real player. People in Disney Parks already have the shared passion required to communicate, sit down and geek out over cards the way they’ve been going it over pins for 20 years now. Not saying it will be a success, but Disney has proven in the past their ability to manufacture such successes when they decide to.

10:00 completely agree here. I kinda got disconnected with mtg recently because for me it doesn´t feel like MTG anymore. I also mistook those Lorcana cards as a new Secret Lair or something. Now, i am only an on and off mtg player because there is just too much. Too much lore, too many sets, too many planes and every time i stop playing for a few months, it´s getting harder and harder to get back in on the fun. I´m actually looking forward to Lorcana as i really like the design and it´s a fresh start to TCG, yet there is already a rich lore which i grew up with as a kid.

I thought it was understood that only Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh! And Magic had a big space in the market and big events and all other games had their niche communities but not much else. I give them two or three years to make their small space or go the way that many other card games have gone before.

Loving the art work of this game. I may give it ago on day 1 release if they have intro decks.

The on-ramp for this game isn’t as extensive as learning MTG. It’s something people can get in on at the ground level which is exciting. Simplified rules due to the game’s infancy makes introducing it to friends, spouses, and family easier and they’re more likely to play. This is a HUGE reason behind why prior MtG players like myself are excited for the game. Everyone knows what Disney is which makes seeing those characters appealing to new audiences. I do not see this game “fizzling” unless they adopt the extract-every-dollar strategy Wotc has taken. Lorcana is fun and involves a decent-enough depth of strategy without the bloat of MtG.

Lorcana can establish itself as a TCG pillar, the king of the zone control/exploration/victory points/area domination genre. Many have come and many have gone, it's fertile ground.

Depending on the cost, and if the rules are complicated, I'm looking forward to Lorcana. I know my daughter would love it, and it may actually get my wife into a TCG

So one year later Lorcana seems to be doing pretty well as game. I’m sure the collectibility has helped it, but it looks like players are enjoying it for the game more. It still hasn’t come close to being the MTG-killer some prophesied, but it has carved out a niche for itself. I like that. I want WOTC to be on their toes and constantly thinking “How can we make MTG the best game it can be?”, and more competition helps with that. And hey, a new good game means more chances to have fun and meet new people.

One year later and things look completely different. I tried out Lorcana with Magic friends and also my wife and all of them loved it. The gameplay, the cards, the prizes, there is only one booster you can pull everything from common to even enchanted, it’s getting reprints a lot so you can afford singles easily and play really strong decks or just buy „older“ sets, because it’s made to be played and having fun, not emptying your wallet, the Illumeneers Quest playing Coop with my wife or alone to test decks is such a bomb, I am totally in love with this game. Magic started killing itself a couple years ago easily, I have a huge list why I would suggest someone picking up Lorcana over Magic.

Not going to lie, the deja vu that Prof. inserted around 5:30 to 6:30 made my genuinely confused and made me question the very reality around me for a moment :D well done, Prof.

This is the first i hear about Lorcana. I must say the cards displayed makes me curious and makes me wanna collect them. As you say I probably won't be playing with 'em but the fact that they seem to be fun to play with and have the oldschool Disney art tickles my inner collector. I think you're right though - they are probably gonna be more of a collectable than to see much play. Time will tell.

The Lorecana TCG feels like an upgraded version of the interactive _Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom_ card game. Did anyone else here ever play SotMK when they went to Disney World?

I'd love to see a retrospective from the Prof on this video a few months from now. Lorcana's only 6 weeks out, but despite supply issues, they seem to be meeting, if not exceeding, MTG numbers in terms of OP. Stores that get 20 people for MTG are getting 50-60 for Lorcana, and that's for *league* play. There's also already been multiple 1K events as well.

I'm pretty excited for the TCG in general- Ravensburger puts out some quality products in Villainous and they understand key terms very well.

thinking about revisiting this?

Oh boy were you wrong about Lorcana. I am playing Lorcana myself and have not met a single person so far who only collects. Lorcana has grown very fast and there are a good amount of tournaments already.

My son recently got into MTG by attending a local library program. He was immediately in love with it and he got me hooked too. I'm excited about the Disney Lorcana game because it may also get my wife and daughter into a card game. It would be amazing if my whole family could get into it and maybe even transition into MTG afterward.

Lorcana has the same energy as McDonald's including Bionicle trading cards back in like 2001

I'm very excited for Lorcana! Very curious what the things they came up with to distinguish themselves from other popular TCGs are.

Hi professor, I am a 52 yo card games player I have played: MTG, Vanguard, Blue moon, L5R, Netrunner, Flesh and blood and many others, I will not play Lorcana and as my favorite streamer I strongly recommend that you check the game Vanquishers. I have been playing since the KS campaign, and the more I play the more I like this game, fast, easy and fun!

The Prof will love a Little Mermaid tribal deck.

I'm excited for Lorcana as a game to play with my daughter who is about to turn 6. I want to get her into MTG eventually, but I think some of the themes are too scary for her right now. I think she would be on board for a Disney characters game. She liked the look of the Elsa and "Tappy Toe Claws" cards when I showed them to her. She is also slightly interested in Pokemon, so I could pick that up again. I just wish I still had my old cards for it.

If Disney wants this to work. It’s going to work.

I’m mostly thinking of it as commander of a sort. “Oh wow, I get to play my favorite characters in fun combos?” I already have a Jafar/Maleficient/Gaston villain deck planned. The only trouble is finding cards.

I'm definitely curious enough to at least learn how to play. Not likely to really pick it up though. In the 25+ years I've been playing Magic, Arkham Horror LCG is the only game that has captivated me like magic has.

Honestly, all the Disney IP is a pretty huge reason for me not to touch it, and I sort of hope that this will motivate WotC to focus more on their own storytelling.

I'm super excited about Lorcana. I'm not like super into disney but it is nostalgic. Mostly I'm super interested to see another well backed player enter the space and maybe we'll get an interesting game out of it. That way next time I want a magic break, I can fire up some Lorcana.

interested in Lorcana to just get my siblings into TCGs. I like that Lorcana feels more playable and transferrable into other TCGs like MTG

It was two minutes in until I realized this wasn’t a crossover set with MTG and Disney. Thank God!

This video aged like milk

I admit I am curious about Lorcana but a lot of that is the visuals on the cards. I dont really collect physical cards much anymore regardless, so I would hope for a digital version.

I am interested in Lorcana because I know all of the characters already and so does my family. I have tried to introduce my kids to Magic, and even Pokemon, but Lorcana so far is the only one to have sparked their interest and I believe it is because they can relate to the characters.

Can't recommend Digimon highly enough. I found it thanks to your video, and for me, it is my new favorite TCG.

Spoiler in the title of the video? Bold strategy, Mister Professor

1 Year after this video: I'm IN. I wanted to start finally playing a TCG but I feel like MTG is just too overly saturated and difficult to just play and go, for a new player. Lorcana on the other hand is like Hearth Stone but easier to follow. And I loved Hearth Stone, but didn't like that they didn't have a paper version of the game. Either way, I'm interested in Lorcana for the ease of play and that it is Disney. Also, Ravensburger has been doing an AMAZING job on the art ( a la Villainous) but they do need to work on better foil design...

The boat has LONG since sailed on the visual cohesion. We're in late-TF2 land now.

I want lorcana cards to use as tokens in my mtg decks

This will capture the Disney fans and that's about it. There is fairly low overlap between the Disney faithful and the types of people who play card games (especially competitively). You either love Disney or you look at it with at best some childhood nostalgia and more likely a pretty strong aversion because they're primarily an IP for kids.

Randomly watching this video a year later I don’t think it’s correct. I played Pokemon and Magic and have sold and moved everything over to Lorcana. Lorcana has imo the best deck building out there. You can pickup any cards and make a deck. My kids and wife who didn’t play Pokemon or Magic before now play Lorcana. We play this daily now and we all love it. The best thing also is you can play with 3+ easilily I think Lorcana will have its own spot and don’t think it will kill Pokemon or Magic

As a man that loves fantasy and who grew up watching Disney movies with his family, and later become an Ur-dragon player and draconic seeker, I can only say that I hope get a Maleficent Card.

As a Johnny Combo player I am hoping for some fun interactions between cards to satisfy my style. I am also interested in collecting the cards. So I'm excited.