Does Hebrews 6 say that if you lose your salvation you can never get it back? 

Don't worry... someone who believes in conditional security will trouble you again. You'll get it your whole life. Just ignore them.

So do you think this passage means if you fell away into unbelief that you can come back to God and repent and be forgiven? I did fall away into unbelief when I was 19 and eventually fell into all false doctrines. I realized 5 months ago that i needs God and went back to church and gave my life back to the Lord only to discover these passages so idk exactly what it means. Is it referring to Apostasy ? If so so many people will say an Apostate would not want to return to God, which may be true but what happens if someone does ? Please offer an help you can thank you 🙏

@@dawnalaia9984 if you have believed the gospel of Jesus Christ, you cannot lose your salvation, even if you chose to believe falsehoods after that and make your bed in hell you will find that Christ is still with you and will never leave you nor forsake you.

⁠@@ITISFINISHED777I would like to believe that, but there’s verses about being cut off and thrown into the fire to be burned if we don’t abide in him in John, or parables like the one of the talents where the wicked servant was cast into outer darkness. The parable of the seed being choked out by the cares of the world. Or about those who perserveres until the end shall be saved? It definetely feels like we need to cooperate and have ongoing obedience (not perfect obedience necessarily, but a genuine desire for purity and righteousness, with actions to follow) because James also says faith without works is dead, and cannot save anyone. I think there’s a balance to this whole idea, I don’t think salvation is a one time thing and then you’re just set for life, it’s an ongoing process where Gods grace covers your shortcomings on the way through sanctification.

@@CAsnowman okay

@@CAsnowmanI agree 😢

Has your feelings changed since this?

He never said you need works? He said that you can’t lose your salvation. That was the whole point of the video

​@@yevtar38820:50 to minute 1:26, he essentially says you can fall away and lose your salvation. He said "Those who have lost their salvation tend not to care". If you listen carefully, the video's message is that Hebrews 6 is not talking about losing your salvation, but about a believer being a babe in Christ. Notice he doesn't say it's not possible for a believer to lose his salvation, but that Hebrews 6 is not talking about losing your salvation. Big distinguishment there. Hypothetically speaking, if you can fall away and lose your salvation, then the only logical way that could happen is if you don’t live up to some standard of righteousness, which is works based.

Hello I’m trying to figure out if I’m saved or not. If what you say is true then I must not be saved because I fell away after being born again at 19. I came back to the lord 5 months ago which is many years later only to discover these verses. I fell into new age beliefs so I didn’t even realize I was without God 🥺 I love the Lord but when I pray I don’t feel his presence or hear his voice to maybe I am not saved …..I’m not sure if repentance and forgiveness are the same thing. I appreciate any spiritual truth you can tell me. Thank you and blessings

@@dawnalaia9984 there's a difference between backsliding and not believing God, Jesus and the saving blood of Jesus. There's two ways of looking at your situation (1)If you are saved, you would know it. (2)If you lost your salvation, you wouldn't be concerned about it. So if you knew you were saved, then you still are saved.

First, the term Christian must be defined. A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? It’s a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail: A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed. A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ. A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench. A Christian is promised eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises that if you believe, you will have eternal life. For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean “eternal”? A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13-14). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that God’s glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory.

@@dawnalaia9984 Forgiveness and repentance are not the same thing. Repentance means to turn around; literally stop the way you’re going and do an about face in the opposite direction. Repentance is something that you do. Forgiveness is something that God does. Hope that clarifies part of your concern at least.

Exactly. It is most very important to read all scripture in full context not cut & paste verses then memorize & use for one's own benefit or construct doctrine. Hebrews 6 & 10 are to who, why, what were they considering? Obviously anyone considering going back or adopting things from their old religion does not & can not equal "born again". If anyone can't see "willful sin" in 10:26 & understand that "every" man sins & it is willful then you can't help them. Some say using personal relationship experiences with God are wrong to consider. I backslid hard after a few decades, it was God that brought me back. When you're one of His he can either chastise you or take you home. He chastised me & took me down hard physically & I'm paying for that. Brought me to complete repentance and even close to Him than before. Did I ever recant my faith, no! Did I ever not know that God was the Father, Jesus the Son who was the Lamb, who's blood covers me? No. Was I sealed? Apparently. I believe & it is obvious to me that there are some who are not convinced but claim to be Christians & never born again and are used as "Christians who fall away". Anyone who has backslid & has great stress & anxiety over Hebrews 6 needs to study who Hebrews was written to & why & read Hebrews in complete context. Just the fact that you read Hebrews 6 out of context & are now worried is your sign of a repentant heart. Same thing happened to David. If anyone gets it & now thinks it isn't a big deal to backslide because they can repent better really think about that. God's chastisement is something to fear, going against what the Father has done for us is shameful, cowardly & embarrassing. It is a lack of love for what He has done. Jesus said, many are called but few are chosen. If you are called do all you can to make your election sure, stay on course & run the race. If you know you're saved then continue in good works not for salvation sake of which you have but for your rewards. Live holy forvwhat He created us for. Be Christ like as a Christian so that nobody can deny you are a Christian, no need to be undercover

Based on your response, I wonder if I’m saved because I was born again at 19 and fell away into false doctrines for many many years but now realized what a horrific misktakrni made walking away from the faith and gave my life back to the Lord 5 months ago however after learning about Hebrews 6 & 10 I think I may not be saved ….Hebrews 6 says cannot be brought back to repentance but is that the same as forgiveness and is it because the person won’t repent or because the Lord won’t let them ? Please help if you can I’m so worried 😦

@@dawnalaia9984 * Please help if you can I’m so worried * Tell me what you believe about salvation.

@@dawnalaia9984 To be renewed unto repentance is euphemistic language referring to Baptism by faith. The act of baptism by faith motivates God to adopt us and raise us from the dead state we were in the way he raised Jesus from the dead. Why would God re-crucify his son? You can only be baptized by faith once. I talk about Baptism quite often and most of the time it is because there are tens of millions of people who were not baptized by faith. That's why I asked you what you believe about salvation. But who am I to judge if your initial conversion was valid or not? I was not there. But I can say this... that passage about it being impossible to renew unto repentance is talking about preaching the Gospel repetitively to people who have already heard it and responded to it by faith. Basically, he's saying you guys have heard this before let's move on to something you have not heard.

Thank you for your reply ! I believe you are saved once you believe that Jesus died for all our sins on the cross SO many people including pastors tell me you can return to the Lord if you repent which I have but verses like Hebrews 6 seem to contradict what these people and pastors say to me. Pastors if 40 years have told me that the fact I want to come back to the Lord means I’m not an Apostate because I want to repent. All I know is I love the Lord I’m pressing in but to be honest I do t feel the presence of God or hear his voice so idk what to believe

Listen to A.W Tozer’s explanation on Hebrews 10:26 it was very helpful to me. Scripture never contradicts itself just look at the first three chapters of Revelation, Jesus telling the churches to repent and return.. think about the story if the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32 scripture is FULL of God pleading with his backslidden children to return to him (a lot in the old testament)

We shouldn’t tell ourselves we’ll lose salvation in order to motivate ourselves to do what God wants. That completely is NOT the heart of Christianity. We are motivated to do good BECAUSE he saved us and seals us! I’m thankful, so I work! We work and start from the finish line! We can’t lose salvation or else that means that Jesus fails to save us. The Holy Spirit seals us. Overwhelming amounts of the Bible say we’re always saved since we’re saved by faith and grace. Look into it more!

This makes sense ,Pastor Billy your reasoning is sound to me …

I agree with you. I think you can walk away from God after you get saved. No one even God makes you stay saved. You can go back to sin if you choose.

I believe the verses that seem to contradict other verses should be our concern if we are not theologians. If we agree that there are no contradictions in the bible, why do people run to the verses that seem to completely refute the promises of Jesus in order to justify their position? I have been saved over 30 years, believe in eternal life as permanent, not temporary or conditional. My relationship with the Father is amazing, and as you argued I don't run around like a heathen giving into the immorality of my flesh knowing all the while dishonoring God , the very One who shed His blood for me. In fact I dont know anyone saved who does what non believers in eternal life claim they will do . Your argument for conditional salvation has more problems than I have time to type rebuttals . But you suggest Jesus is incapable of finishing what He started, is a liar and is powerless, and that our eternal destination depends upon our performance ...Man I am glad that I do not have that problem but rest in my blessed assurance ....

I believe from my studying the word and talking to older more experienced and educated people that it seems to be if you truly believe in Jesus and his sacrifice than you will never become an atheist or Scientologist or Muslim or anything else and that if you do you never truly believed to begin with. And that would reconcile once saved always saved. Because it’s a matter of your heart not your actions. Therefore if someone is saved but lives a very sinful life than they’re spiritually immature and the fore produce no fruit.

No one Christian that’s saved can walk in perfect obedience to maintain or keep salvation. Are we to abuse the Grace of God? Of course not. God bless

@Ezekio3160 We can walk in obedience.. it's hard but not impossible. Salvation is there, but if you walk away from God and go back and sin and die without repentance, then you know where your soul will be going.

@@gabbygabra sounds like salvation works if we need to keep salvation by repenting.

@Ezekio3160 No, repenting does not save. Accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and savior, believing that he died on the cross and was resurrected. Getting baptized, repenting from our sins, keeping God's commandments, reflecting Christ in our daily life. Many pastors say that once you have done this, you are saved by the grace of God. That's something that he has given us. But what happens when you go back to sinning again? Are you still saved? So what does one have to do? Repent If we went back to sinning and you had a deadly accident, God forbid, and you had no chance to ask God for forgiveness, where does your soul go? Because many think that just because you did all the above and go back to where God got you out from, you are still saved.

@@gabbygabra so only step for salvation is Faith in Christ alone plus nothing minus nothing. Just like the thief on the cross who acknowledged his faith in Christ. No baptism required. “Or are you unaware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭6‬:‭3‬ ‭CSB‬. What happens when you keep sinning? Chastisement like King David, Moses, Jonah. Salvation is a gift from God through faith alone in Christ Alone. In the words of Christ Jesus our God, ““Truly I tell you, anyone who believes has eternal life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭47‬ ‭CSB‬‬ Eternal by definition is Continuing without interruption. Once saved always saved because we are forgiven by the blood of Christ past, present and future sins.

No your flesh is seperated not your soul