Stumping DnD 5e's creator at his own game

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@QuestingBeast 4 месяца назад

Mike Mearls' Patreon: www.patreon.com/mikemearls Seth Skorkowsky's Channel: www.youtube.com/@SSkorkowsky Kelsey Dionne's Channel: www.youtube.com/@TheArcaneLibrary Questing Beast Patreon: bit.ly/QBPatreon

@SSkorkowsky 4 месяца назад

Oh, man, this was so much fun. Thanks for having me on.

@Sundog1966-s4u 4 месяца назад

Mr. Skorkowski is a beloved member of the The Glass Cannon, when he says he was bumming around .. He is a Treasure as a player and I can only imagine being a player in his game.

@darcyw156 4 месяца назад

He is one of the most clever players I have seen. His ideas are amazing!

@helixxharpell 4 месяца назад

Seth is cool. 😂

@BobWorldBuilder 4 месяца назад

Love this series!

@dandannoodles7070 4 месяца назад

fun fact, take 10 and take 20 are actually in 5e, under passive checks and dmg -> running the game -> using ability scores

@euansmith3699 4 месяца назад

Seth saying, "Well, you caught my interest." sounded like a clip from a movie.

@ItsYoji 4 месяца назад

I think Seth's internet presence is just an aggregation of movie clips at this point.

@euansmith3699 4 месяца назад

@@ItsYoji FOR THOR!!!!

@mcolville 4 месяца назад

I would have sworn there were Death From Massive Damage rules in 1E. "System Shock!"

@matthewrenn 4 месяца назад

An Uncle Matt sighting!

@SavageGreywolf 4 месяца назад

AD&D system shock rules explicitly have to do with spells that artificially age or reshape the body of the target (e.g., polymorph), it doesn't have to do with the amount of damage taken.

@mightystu49 4 месяца назад

I'm fairly certain system shock didn't come from damage but from specific conditions, like rapidly changing size. That, or it's an awesome Sci-Fi PC action game

@ikaemos 4 месяца назад

I wonder where Gary stole that term from, because it's been cropping up ever since; even 5e has System Shock as a (completely forgotten) optional rule in the DMG when you take half of your HP in damage. It definitely sounds like something out of a mecha wargame. "Operator, system shock detected. Hard reset is advised."

@SavageGreywolf 4 месяца назад

@@ikaemos Wikipedia lists the first 'thing' called "A Shock to the System" as a 1984 novel- which means that as far as they're concerned, AD&D is the first pop cultural use. it's possible it's an outdated medical term. Maybe something like cold shock, or surgical stress?

@mcolville 4 месяца назад

I would have been the only one to get the Death Save 4E question right!

@QuestingBeast 4 месяца назад

You want to come on for the next episode?

@mcolville 4 месяца назад

@@QuestingBeast Alas I fear all the questions I would get right have already been asked. :D

@QuestingBeast 4 месяца назад

@@mcolville Haha, well just let me know if you change your mind. I have a lots more questions (and episodes) to go!

@lukeholbrook204 4 месяца назад

“You shoot them out of your holes.” Immediate cut to Seth with knowing smirk.

@mightystu49 4 месяца назад

Seth has impeccable comedic timing as always!

@willydstyle 4 месяца назад

You should have Daddy Rolled a 1 on to play this game if you haven't already.

@danielslack4078 4 месяца назад

I feel old. These guys keep saying I've heard of these older editions but never read or played it and here i am having both read and played/ run most of these. Thanks! 😂

@EricAsselin 4 месяца назад

Same for me. I still never got past first edition.

@kurtoogle4576 4 месяца назад

Yep, I've played them all too!

@ThomasSynnott-v9s 4 месяца назад

Yeah, I know what you mean.

@ThomasSynnott-v9s 4 месяца назад

@@totalpartykill999 Nope.

@marcellocoppede7237 4 месяца назад

damn, you got some serius firepower gests for this video. GJ

@quillogist2875 4 месяца назад

Circe is the classic witch archetype that is one of the big influences on early DnD, hence swines.

@pzalterias5154 4 месяца назад

As a 5e player, I always heard people say they "spend" a spell slot, not filling it 4th and 5th edition have not the same death system. In 5th, the failed death saves reset when you gain hit points, without needing a rest.

@joshjames582 4 месяца назад

Yeah I recall thinking of it as discarding spent shell casings or something with my Bard when I was playing 5e.

@SavageGreywolf 4 месяца назад

That's because spellcasting works the opposite of how it used to in D&D. In previous editions a wizard or cleric would select what spells they had access to _when preparing spells at the start of the day,_ including what spell slot was being used for that spell. For example, if you had one third level spell slot, at the start of the day you had to decide if you were putting Fireball into that spell slot. And if you did, then if later in the day you were in a situation where you wanted the Fly spell instead... well, too bad, you prepared Fireball today. Essentially they changed it so every class worked like what used to be the sorcerer's gimmick "spontaneous spellcasting".

@aetherkid 4 месяца назад

One of my 5e homebrews is not resetting Death Saves. Given how yo-yo heavy 5e can be already, it adds a limit to their healing word shenanigans

@pzalterias5154 4 месяца назад

@@SavageGreywolf Clerics, wizards and druids still have to prepare their spells in 5e, but not their spell slots.

@Kazdok 4 месяца назад

I am SO happy to see anything positive being said about Fourth. 4E was my jam and I'll die on that hill defending it haha!

@ikaemos 4 месяца назад

Yeah, that 4e tangent made me chuckle. They really did have to do something twice for it to stick with people.

@blackshard641 4 месяца назад

Same!

@thomasparker6124 4 месяца назад

24:45 As a 3E survivor with Favoured Enemy: Prestige Classes burnt into my soul. Mike really made me laugh.

@willydstyle 4 месяца назад

Are you also mildly hyperventilating at all the 3e rose colored glasses on the internet these days?

@bmd1675 4 месяца назад

Hey yall. That stuck door rule -- It's much less tedious to not roll for stuck doors immediately. Roll when the party comes back to it later. Then you don't have to keep track of every door's "status" at all times. Much easier.

@graynanuuq 4 месяца назад

Seth's face when Ben said ".. then you shoot them out of your holes" 😀

@ts25679 4 месяца назад

The editor knew what they were doing

@chadwilkerson197 4 месяца назад

I love these videos - so many of my favorite creators together at the same time! It's like AC/DC, Led Zepplin, Metallica, and Black Sabbath all taking the stage together. 😍😍😍

@stevenappel1603 4 месяца назад

Yes! Three of my most favorite RU-vidrs are joining forces and collaborating for allmost an hour. And even better, I get to kno the illustre Mike Mearls. What a spectacle, what a feast! Thank you QuestingBeast. Thank you, praise be with you, peace be upon you ❤

@bark_madly 4 месяца назад

Seth Skorkowsky is so FUNNY 😁 ❤ love that guy 😂

@role4success 4 месяца назад

2nd edition had proficiency point bonus from INT.

@AngryPict 4 месяца назад

9:18 "...couldn't get that kind of action in Advanced Squad Leader or Panzer Blitz..."🤣

@ca7582 4 месяца назад

Dude, I wasn't expecting to enjoy this video that much. What a laugh!!

@ts25679 4 месяца назад

I'm a big advocate for a big'ol book of mechanics which are marked by the type/style of game they support.

@Spyger9 4 месяца назад

This is the best D&D video I've seen in months. Wildly fun and informative!

@LouisJoBenoit 4 месяца назад

I don't like modern D&D. I don't like WotC. But it warmed my heart to see a designer from those eras of D&D (having learned the game mostly through 3e as a teenager) engage with the community and the OSR, even if he's freelance and it's just one video. Thanks Mike, your passion showed through, even more : you got the win. Bravo!

@apeanders 4 месяца назад

This was really fun, both because of the entertaining guests and for playing along.

@bocconom 4 месяца назад

A fantastic and fun video with great guests! Well done and I hope their are more such offerings. I learned a lot of great history.

@mikeyHustle 4 месяца назад

I remember being really frustrated when players in my party (I wasn't DMing then) would take prestige classes and chuck all the flavor out the window. It felt so . . . idk. Fake. Which is a weird thing to say in a fantasy game.

@SneakyNinjaDog 4 месяца назад

The prestige class story is a prime example that if the rules say that some player options are... well optional or possible only for NPCs - the immediately become the norm and everyone uses them. LIke feats in 5e. But w prestige classes people pulled them in from every setting regardless of what campaign they were in. The same goes for races now... "heey can I play warforged?"

@Malfashoud Месяц назад

Oh my lord, this. I run a youth org with some 25 kids who play D&D on the regular, and the amount of "Heeeey, can I be a regiar/neogi half-breed with magic from Ravnica even though we're in the forgotten reeeaaalms?" drives me occasially insane.

@michaelmullenfiddler 4 месяца назад

I keep thinking I'm going to watch for 10 minutes, then I realize I've had a great time when the video ends. Lol

@NemoOhd20 4 месяца назад

Loved it. I've heard it was Tim Kask and someone else assigned to Dave Arneson's box of notes for Blackmoor. Kind of would have been embarrassing for Mike Mearls to not win that, huh?

@zeIIendor 4 месяца назад

Wow, congrats on the cast!Three lovely guests and stars in the ttrpg world, as far as I'm concerned.

@saraphys5555 4 месяца назад

Seth, Kelsey, and Mike?! Holy Cow! This was a riot!

@maecenus778 4 месяца назад

We use that rule in our AD&D game, where monsters can move through doors effortlessly, and it creates some pretty hilarious scenes, like a tiny worm creature opening a massive stone door that took three successful open doors rolls from the PCs. Likewise, we have charmed creatures like goblins strictly so that we could force them to open doors. They don’t usually live very long.

@g-magewizard7007 4 месяца назад

I also experienced some of these scenes with stone doors and small critters opening them, but i think its worth noting that effortless opening doesnt actually apply to monsters on the side of the PCs

@joeg451 6 дней назад

Spotted Justin Alexander's book in Mike's background

@gilwenlive 4 месяца назад

Love this type of content 🎉

@iremainteague5653 4 месяца назад

Love all the guests this episode!

@mightystu49 4 месяца назад

Seth and Ben in the same video! My too favorite RU-vid RPG people. You love to see it!

@andrewstraight2961 4 месяца назад

🎉This makes me so happy! ❤ Best thing on the internet, hands down!🎉

@BradDaeda 3 месяца назад

Very enjoyable and Mike's insight was enlightening!

@lofrost8553 4 месяца назад

An interesting tidbit about Baldur's Gate 3s representation of spell slots: they do it in the way that you imagine it. All your spell slots are "filled in" at the start of the day, presumably with magic (they are shining in a bright blue color), and when you cast a spell they are emptied out (they turn dull gray), leaving only the socket behind. So I think the reason some people might only make sense of the system after playing that game is that it's done in the much more intuitive way of older editions than how it is described in 5e. I feel like the 5th edition spellcasting system is by far one of its most game-ified systems, in that it can work really well and be a lot of fun if you enjoy dnd as a game, but it is really hard to explain narratively.

@ikaemos 4 месяца назад

Yeah, when Mike describes it here, it _kinda_ makes sense (the slots begin "free" and get "occupied" by a cast spell, almost like magic interference building up. "I can't cast anymore, all my brain-slots are filled with static!"), but I've never met a group who thinks of them that way.

@allluckyseven 4 месяца назад

That was great! I've been looking forward to these DnD quiz videos and I'm so happy that you got these 3 together for this one!

@superchimp 4 месяца назад

OMG! What an amazing guest list 😄this is brillaint!

@ts25679 4 месяца назад

Fingers crossed the reality show Mike's talking about is actually a remake of 1987's "Knightmare"

@ericpeterson8732 4 месяца назад

I loved the 3e Iconics. I bought the whole series of novels about them. When I DMed a group of new players (my cousin and his friend) I added a DMPC/henchman and let them choose which one to add to their party. They chose Jozan the cleric. But they had the choice of Liddea, Regdar, Ember, Mialee, Krusk, and Tordek. I added personality quirks. Like Tordek snoring and Regdar being unable to swim. Jozan was converted to Lathander and a light cleric (instead of Pelor) and his quirk was he was afraid of the dark. He carried candles and lanterns and used light spells and refused to go into complete darkness. This made night sneak missions impossible because Jozan had to have his light spell on his shield. I tried to take a backseat to the players but they tended to argue all the time so Jozan would have to mediate. He also was the tank, with a sorcerer and a ranger archer. I took them through my version of the Isle of Dread. I used the map and changed many of the elements to fit 5e.

@brynjarjohannesson5685 4 месяца назад

About the people learning d&d from BG3: I was running an OSE game until last fall when I became too busy. One of my players had been playing BG3 and felt confident enough to start DMing 5e, so now I am a player for almost the first time.

@TheAlexandrian 3 месяца назад

Re: Closing doors. It's mildly important if (a) navigation is significant and (b) mapping is occurring, because a closed door that should be open can mislead about whether or not you've been in an area before. It's moderately significant when used in tandem with the rule about only being able to open doors on specific rolls + random encounters (so that you're chewing up time trying to open doors that swung shut behind you). This can get kinda silly pretty easily, though. It can be VERY important if you're running away from something and discover that the door has shut behind you. Or if the door is trapped and the trap resets when it closes.

@AmazingAaxor 4 месяца назад

This was a great session to watch thx!

@Sundog1966-s4u 4 месяца назад

4th was so good and it doesnt deserve all the Hate.

@jasonGamesMaster 4 месяца назад

It was good, just very different with completely different goals. It was very good for high powered combat. As a person that doesn't enjoy combat I really didn't care for it, and my group dropped it after a single session. It really stands as something of an oddity within D&D, imho. But it was good

@jamiemcdonough6548 4 месяца назад

This new series is going strong for me. Good to see all the faces playing. Thank you, Questing Beast. Thanks to your guests too.

@markfaulkner8191 4 месяца назад

I would love to a version of this that includes BX and BECMI 🙂

@nutherefurlong 4 месяца назад

Spell text versions would be an interesting one for the next one. These are fun :)

@shayulghul 4 месяца назад

I still use ultravision in my campaign after all these years. It's like a rainbow in the dark…

@dankellogg 4 месяца назад

🤘

@ericpeterson8732 4 месяца назад

Mike! There you are! I've missed you, buddy! Looking forward to whatever you do!

@jaybakata5566 4 месяца назад

Care Bear Stare. OMG I feel old, thanks for that.

@jynirax 4 месяца назад

This series is so much fun to watch. Really fantastic stuff.

@PunnyBears 4 месяца назад

Mike Mearls says the 5e spell slot system is from Wizardy. It is *also* featured in the original version of Final Fantasy 1 (which may also have been inspired by wizardy)

@FoxTrick101 4 месяца назад

What a great job of casting

@benjaminloyd6056 4 месяца назад

Glad to see the return of this series!

@willmendoza8498 4 месяца назад

This was a great time. Would watch future installments.

@spudsbuchlaw 4 месяца назад

after we get 3 rounds of this game, we should do a rand finale where each of the 3 winners face off to know Who Rolled The Highest Int?

@MavenofPinetree 4 месяца назад

This is such a great series! Thank you!

@spacerx 4 месяца назад

On the timekeeping question: super easy. It refers to a referee. Only 0e ever did that.

@BLynn 4 месяца назад

5E is just 4E in common language is what I have said since D&D Next.

@typoholic 4 месяца назад

What a great panel of guests.

@Nolinquisitor 4 месяца назад

This is a stellar cast!!! 🥳🎉

@davidgrubbs6362 4 месяца назад

I'd love to see an episode of this with Jason Alexander and Matt Colville.

@blainetaggart6736 4 месяца назад

Thank you! That was sooooo much fun!

@PsychedelicLasagna 4 месяца назад

I know he's a rather elusive guest to others' channels, but Matt Colville would make a wonderful contestant for this game!

@chummer2060 4 месяца назад

Another really fun game show episode! Can't wait to see who you bring in next time.

@role4success 4 месяца назад

The thought that prestige classes weren’t going to be used by players just goes to show you how out of touch the writers were with reality. Groups had drow PCs long before any sort of publication made it part of the rules. Then there’s Necromancer’s guide from 2nd edition that was supposed to be for NPCs only. Yeah, right.

@brianjohnson1985 4 месяца назад

Thank both of you for what you do for this community, Seth I thank you for introducing so many to call of Cthulhu and Traveller and the awesome people over at Glass Cannon. Ben, thank you so much for showing us that there are other games that are just as good or better than the mainstream. Like mork Borg, vaesen, Lamentations of the flame princess. You both are pillars of this community and keepers of the flame.

@davidholman6709 4 месяца назад

I feel like the Amber novels were a good fictional example of the old spell slot concept. They would 'hang' spells = preparing them & partially casting, so that they could be triggered quickly as needed. Made sense to me!

@gonzo529 4 месяца назад

Love this! I hope you keep going and have a championship round with all the winners.

@All4Tanuki 4 месяца назад

WHOAH! Congrats on getting Mike on! Can't wait to watch this

@All4Tanuki 4 месяца назад

@@jakobboller1014 WHAT

@undertone_dj 3 месяца назад

Great video! Super enjoyed this one!

@euansmith3699 4 месяца назад

What a great episode; such a smart idea from Ben. I look forward to when this format becomes the next "Taskmaster".

@alexbarrett3832 4 месяца назад

Sometimes you need a rules lawyer for the defence to protect the game and fun from the rules lawyers for the prosecution! 3e also had player types in phb2, just not in the core rules.

@vidgrip8622 4 месяца назад

That was great. I'd like to see more of these

@spudsbuchlaw 4 месяца назад

Ben I beseach- I begeth of thee, I yearn for more ADnD DMG reading!

@jrpipik 4 месяца назад

Gygax saying, "This is straightforward" was his way of saying, "This is completely logical, so stop complaining, you idiots."

@Lycaon1765 4 месяца назад

30:10 i knew it was 5th cuz death saves are at the START of your turn, and if you roll a nat 20 you get back up and get your whole turn. :)

@gabrielwalton4097 4 месяца назад

Awesome to see another epispde of this! 👌

@JKevinCarrier 4 месяца назад

This game is a lot of fun, especially for those of us old enough to have played a lot of these editions. I wasn't keeping track of my score, but I'm sure I didn't beat Mike! Gygax's prose is usually pretty easy to spot, for other editions you have to rely on context clues...

@telepaten 4 месяца назад

Great group of guest!

@tkc1129 4 месяца назад

Another fun episode, Ben. Wild to see Mike in this sort of community video. Significant amounts of ultraviolet light definitely doesn't fall on the Earth at night. :-P If it did, scorpions would glow at night. Certainly, there is some stellar radiation of all types, even up to cosmic rays, but it's pretty dark and things like cosmic rays usually just pass straight through objects, so you can't really see by them under normal conditions. I feel like that says something about the intent of the designers who wrote that, but I'm not sure what. :-P I would also say healing surges and hit dice are different beasts. Healing Surges were used with almost every spell, so you couldn't usually heal another character unless they had Healing Surges left. Also, everyone could Second Wind to use a Healing Surge during every encounter. Hit Dice are mostly used during short rests.

@mateofantasma 4 месяца назад

The discussion about prestige classes was super interesting. Great video!

@agilemonk6305 4 месяца назад

What fantastic guests. ❤ you all.

@ikaemos 4 месяца назад

36:30 Kelsey makes a point here, the famous STRICT TIME RECORDS may actually be outdated advice in the mid-1980s, when 1e was more played at home tables. It was no longer a real-time MMO populated by an entire city's wargaming club. But it probably made it into the book by way of inertia. Makes it funny to think that even people in the 80s didn't know what the hell Gary was on about in all-caps.

@spacelem 4 месяца назад

I lost a Halfling barbarian to massive damage in 3e. I'd just made the character, first session in, took a crit from a great axe, and had to make the Fort save. I thought I'd just passed, but I double checked and realised I'd miscounted during character gen after moving some points around, and I'd actually failed by 1. Ouch!

@fchrisb804 3 месяца назад

Love to see Mike and Kelsey on the same show!!!!

@Morta1337y 4 месяца назад

When I told Seth my feelings about Rules Lawyers, he said he refers to them as Rules Sages. I think I like his term more. :D

@darcyw156 4 месяца назад

I love this! We need more of these! Kelsey is awesome, and Seth is my favourite youtuber. I am happy to see Mike keeping busy. Thanks all!

@concibar4267 4 месяца назад

34:35 - in the German version of the game we actually use 2 different terms for (character) levels and (spell) levels. Charakter level = Stufe Spell level = Grad I think if we could go back we could've use tier or order instead of spell levels.

@mingramh 2 месяца назад

it was good to hear Mike's perspective on multi-classing. we don't allow it at our table. it's a hack, and if you want to play like that, then play a classless system