Does not sound like a typical B&W speaker. B&W 802D3 speaker first impression. 

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Thanks for sharing!

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More to come!

Yes, me too.

More to come!

Awesome, I will film more this kind of videos in the future. Not just product review.

Find a big difference between the D3 and the D4, I prefer the D4. Grtz Phil

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And make sure you get the cheapest instant noodles to speed things up!

NAD isn't a good matching, sounds lifeless on any speakers.

Thanks for sharing

So why don't you like it? Is it cuz they lack air for the pairing?

Glad to hear it!

Yeah, I like the N series too.

I had the p6 great speakers but they need some serious amplification. I heard the newest 700 series but to me those sounded hollow and overly bright with no low end. Could be the amplification though. Although I liked the p6 I always found they lacked a bit of emotion in my system. But for critical listening they were great.

Glad you like them!

Yup, the 800 series is definitely different.

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I will review their super tweeter, not sure about the speakers.

Ok.. the speakers would be so much interesting as u tend to focus on high end. Many folks would like to hear your thoughts on more affordable speakers... thanks

I have not heard any of those but I like Audio vector arrete 3

Yes, some people I met love the color of the sound while others hate it.

The amps? They have a lot of time on them, but I would say a week is enough to have a good idea.

I did not notice. Let me pay attention to that the next time I am there.

Yup totally agree

I heard the 800 with some classe amp back in the day and that combo sounded great.

Lol

Yeah, if they are dark, it would not be a B&W. Clarity is what all audiophiles today seem to be chasing after.

I used the price from stereophile, it was $22k USD at one point. Today, we are at D4.

@@ThomasAndStereo very cool and how do they compare with canton ref speakers?

​@@vicg5323Bass is more predictable with the B&W and way less bright.

I need to bring one in to do that! Another 150lb + speaker.

@@ThomasAndStereo didnt you say you had some back problems before? i would not risk lifting heavy objects either way.

Perhaps the older B&W, like older kef were not bright?

@@ThomasAndStereo Maybe being burned in for 20 years helps!

Ah, good way you put it, first class.

Yeah, it seems I need to check out D4.

@@ThomasAndStereo hey FYI I have heard the 802 D4s too but not in my system so I can't speak with any real authority about them, but the dealer was driving them with the same amp I use (Gryphon Diablo 300) and they were mightily impressive especially the bass weight and resolution, something you don't often get from the same speaker. Also there was zero treble glare even with Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti (source was Tidal via a Lumin P1). BTW when is your Class A amp going to be available and for how much?

​​@@michaelmityok1001wow you have a great amp already! The class A amp around Feb 2024. $3750 usd, made in Canada.

804 D4 worst sounding speaker I've ever heard.

​@elonmuskrat2830 yes of course a keyboard warrior with a handle like yours would feel the need to troll. Even if it were true, the need to post the comment simply to get a rise out of the target speaks volumes of you and the cultural moment we are living through.

Yeah, I was thinking about that and not an easy anwser.

@ThomasAndStereo 😅. Ya me too. Went to the store and heard them both. They are both amazing even with my bias towards my sopras.

Me too, I cannot afford all this.

Yeah, the back is pretty cool

Only on Thomas and Stereo.

@@ThomasAndStereo😂😬

Oh, I have the S1 and the S2 sounds similar.

@@ThomasAndStereo yes I think they listened to feedback on the S2 tweeter being too dominant, it has a new upgraded titanium dome which sounds better integrated with the midrange and smoother on top.

Wow, thanks for sharing.

The matrix series is still a very nice series. Although the highs can be a bit on the hot side. But for classic that shouldn’t be much of an issue.

@@matthiasbroek8055 That is very true of the 801 Matrix Series 1 but that issue was corrected in the 801 Matrix Series 3. Plus these speakers have to be at least 9" off the floor or they will not come even close to their potential. I see lots of pictures where the speakers are on the floor.

Ah, I need to go check out the D4 then.

Maybe also I listened to them in a treated room so it was not bright.

@@ThomasAndStereo🙋‍♂️JUST FYI,EVERY GENERATION OF THE 800 series has years of experience in IMPROVING the sound and like THOMAS SAID,he and MR JAZZ could hear 👂🏻 the difference 😎

Lol

Ah, not your cup of tea.

Pairing is crucial for the 700 and 800 series

Sure, not everyone's cup of tea.

Yeah, the software does that from time to time.

Ah, maybe a different amp would make a difference.

LOL, you need a Raidho speaker then, the woofers are coated in diamond!

Like buy a Focal instead?

But once you're done with that....

I wonder if it is the speaker or the amp the issue.

@@ThomasAndStereo yes some tubes over this 800 series makes me curious

Could it be it is the Mcintosh sound that does not impress you?

You know I hadn’t thought about that it could be the amp. I am definitely not a fan at all of McIntosh. Very good point my friend. Keep up the good work and comical little jokes!. Happy holidays to you and your family!!!

@Prometheus1979 Happy holidays to you and your family too:)

Good morning.

☕️, I believe you hit the nail on the head …they may have the B&W pedigree..but once you get into they’re more “expensive “ line up ..they begin to have a more mature “audiophile “ tuning. Once again a great video . Oh, btw, was he running them with the newer amps along with the Mac ?

​@@carminedesanto6746yes, using the preamp section of the Mcintosh and the power section of the TS A75 and TS A20

Yeah

I would not disagree except for the Sibelius, but I do find some of them excellent for voice and simple band music.

@@ThomasAndStereo That is the problem, they sound awful on classical music and bad on everything else. Then it is the cost of running those single watt amps. They are so expensive and the valves run in class A. So they wear out far more quickly. 99.999% of people do not listen to jazz or simple band music.

I’d completely disagree. They sound great on large orchestra like Mahler symphonies. It’s got the speed, bass and details to reproduce the large sound stage.

Ah I see, Mr Jazz, interestingly did not like his Kef reference 5 because he found them too neutral.

I also prefer B&W 805D3 to KEF Ref 1 when i heard them side by side at a friend’s plc. The 805D3 made the ref 1 sound muffled & shut in. My friend himself also preferred the 805D3 & has sold his Ref 1s.

I find it hard to believe that a company like B & W with their research department would design an expensive speaker cabinet that had resonance issues

Pff it's hard to believe that a 200 lb speaker with heavy internal metal endoskeleton and the massive metal brace at the back would result in any kind of resonance, I call is a big BS on your part!

Haha, yes it does.

Or have a lot of friends with muscle.

I guess their sound does not appeal to you, nothing wrong with that as we all have different taste.

​@@ThomasAndStereoas well as the speakers and amplifier combos, most people would be amazed at how bad there hearing is due to the condition of there ears . As a series music dude I get my ears cleaned and flushed by a ear nose throat doc . When your ears are corrupt with wax and other contaminants dust etc, the hairs in your ears that work like reeds to transform acoustic waves into the brain transmission for sound is going to give horrible effects , so everyone that loves there music reproduction systems need to get there ears checked and professionally cleaned and flushed , it is less expensive than changing speakers and other components , our brains are easily tainted by the way we hear .

You should try biamping speaker much better this way.

I guess it is not type of sound.

​@@ThomasAndStereo B&W comes from a long tradition of British-made speakers that sound like sht but that, somehow, have risen to legend status at some point in the late 70s-80s. You probably were too young back then, but I remember everyone and their grandpa was salivating over the B&W801 and the score of those BBC-crap monitors.. Spendor, Rogers, etc. Magazines were going nuts over super colored, super expensive monitors, with silk dome tweeters that would start crackling after you played the first classical piano piece louder than 80dB. In the case of the B&W I, and all my friends with well endowed hearing, could never get over the constrained, nasal and distorted mids coming from that stupid spherical enclosure. B&W acoustic development stopped in the 80s so other than thicker piano finish, the speakers suffer from the same issue.

Well if you want real wood, check out the Sibelius speaker which strangely, people complaining about it costing $4k for a pair.