I did my ACL a few years ago. There was almost no pain, but it immediately felt 'not right', no stability. The biggest barriers to get over are mental. The physical rehabilitation is the 'easy' part - trusting your knee fully when you play again is a nightmare, you pull out of tackles etc. It's long road to recovery.
How do people today still get knee injuries? You do realise there’s programs to strengthen your knees the same as anything else, look up kneesOverToesGuy if you follow that everyday your knees will be literally invincible just nobody trains them for some reason
100% this. I did mine a few years ago. Felt like my knee was gonna slide off every time I tried to walk on it. But yeah, the mental aspect of recovery and rehab was awful; you're hesitant to run, go into tackles, stretch for a ball. The impact on my family was hard too: they had to do a lot for me the first few weeks. I eventually quit playing because I didn't want to put them through that again.
If you kick it once it’s bounced then that’s a half volley but if u kick without a bounce then it’s a volley the 2 oldies are wrong on this one ☝️ lol 😂
A volley is hitting the ball before it bounces,a half volley is like Gary said hitting the ball just as it bounces,and hitting it when it’s bouncing is just hitting a bouncing ball,if you used to play headers and volleys you know.
The Trossard 2nd yellow is funny when you see that freeze frame with the whistle on the ref's mouth and Trossard's leg already in motion. Just how robotic is game going?
Not just the refs who aren't consistent. Shearer mentions trossard's barge like it was relevant. He agrees with ref's decision on doku but is questioning ref's decision on the barge. Not to forget haaland's two barges. Gary neville said ref ruined the game when mane hospitalised ederson but is applauding the ref now. What do they actually want
ACL has nothing to do with fatigue though, which was his main complaint (I know it's not what you are suggesting) and you certainly can't make a case that it was fatigue 10 minutes into a match. I actually did my ACL in pre-season, Timber did his in the first game of last season far Arsenal. This is because ACL injuries are mostly prevented by having sufficient muscle support around the knee and ironically the break Rodri has had probably contributed to a lack of that.
Quick quick. How can I make this about Liverpool.. people have been warning about the number of fixtures since the 90s.. when the champions league format changed..
19:08 love how the example Micah gives for Gary Lineker playing in bigger games is the North London derby…easy to forget Gary has famously scored a hat trick in an el Classico, eh Big Meeks!? 😂😂
When the ball comes to you without hitting the floor and you kick the ball is a volley. And if the ball comes to you but hits the floor before you kick the ball is a half volley up to chest high. Over chest high is an overhead kick. Micah is correct I'm with him.
I don't understand people who are saying things like "footballers are paid too much money to complaint about playing too much football". Yes they are highly paid, but that does not mean you put them through 70-80 games a year at the top top level. With the extra games CL format & now the FIFA's greedy Club World Cup, top players who play for a big club & nation will probably get 1 summer off in the next 4 years. (As a Barcelona fan, with the amount of injuries the team is going through, I am so so glad Barcelona didn't qualify for the world cup next summer) This is beyong ridiculous, clubs will have to take a stand to protect their own assets (the players). They can not be greedy about playing more and more matches for potential money, or everyone needs to have a squad where you employee 50 footballers for the level of football your club plays and you have heavily rotated teams.
It’s very simple why people say the players are the ones at fault. On average 70% of the gross revenues are going to the players salaries. This means teams have to find more and more revenue sources which means more and more games. If players were willing to take less money in exchange for game limits, teams would sign those deals every time. But players don’t. They want ever escalating salaries but then they want to complain about what’s required to pay those salaries. Teams are not demanding they go back into the coal mines so they can get more 100 pound notes to light their cigars with, they are barely keeping their necks above insolvency. For players to turn around and demand they play less games for more money is psychotically delusional.
You do realise that top clubs have big squads. Rotate. Though I still want the Nations league scrapped. It has no prestige & nothing more than a money spinner.
@Hhammer You don't need to rotate the whole 11 each match. It's all about management. Swap out 2/3 players when players need protected. And there's 5 subs now. So they can drag more players off to freshen things up during the match & have them ready to start again the next game.
Regarding the ‘delaying the restart’ I would follow the rugby direction, if you delay the restart the restart moves 10 yds forward. It is not foul play, it is not dangerous, it’s is gamesmanship and should not be classed as a card worthy offence.
they tried it 20 odd years ago & was a disaster - defenders cottoned on quickly that moving the ball closer at 30 yards against Beckham etc reduced the odds of him scoring significantly
Micah is right on the volley. In tennis a half volley is considered after the bounce, while its rising, before it hits the apex. But like he’s saying, it doesn’t go from Volley, Half Volley back to a Volley again once it reaches a certain height.
Klopp warned us years ago when Liverpool had a load of injuries that ruined our season and everyone told him to just get on with it and stop complaining ... Now everyone is talking about it , the agenda against Liverpool is crazy.
Nah a volley needs to NOT touch the ground from a pass.. if it bounces it’s not a volley, can’t believe Alan and Gary’s take , though I agree a half volley is just after the bounce ..but if it bounces higher it’s just neither.. didn’t think I’d be agreeing with Micah on that one
gary uve never been carded in a era where EVERYONE got carded legend but to think he's never had to go threw that as a WC player for 15yr must be in Guinness records
My buddy had it once. He went through an operation to repair his knee. I visited him and joked. He can't play a pro. At least he gets injured like one.😅
WHAT about something that is NEVER mentioned by pundits or for that matter anyone who plays the game, that is ALL the MAULING that goes on in the penalty box when defenders continually wrap their arms around the opposition..I know that the game is a PHYSICAL game but is that at the VERY LEAST OBSTRUCTION?
Rodri will be ok. I support Liverpool and saw a photo of Van Dijk's knee after that horror injury, he was older and came back from that and his knee was destroyed. Pep doesn't seem to have answers when he's out though. Arsenal have never had a better chance to win the league.
Last season it was cool when the referee didn’t want to spoil the game and this season it’s the referees are under pressure. Not even these guys are consistent so we can’t really expect much from the refs even at a high level
The Injury had nothing to do with the games played. If he had played 70 or 80 games sure I'd say maybe but to get injured like that is a fluke so don't try to bs us to push some rubbish agenda
I hurt my back at work once, couldn’t make my work and lost out on my minimum wages that were not paid, I’m very much sure a millionaire football player that has the best doctors will be fine….
Hopefully they’ll cut these useless international breaks and friendlies. running off to the national teams less than two weeks into the clubs seasons is beyond dumb. The top players being worn down the most Good to see the older gen of players starting to support the current guys on this
Guys, Rodri's injury is Arsenal's fault. Apparently, Havertz started it, and Partey finished it...or, at least, that is what some City fans calling in on Talksport want the world to believe.
Well Pep doesn't believe that. Guardiola was asked if he thought Arsenal had targeted Rodri, with Kai Havertz having barged into him at the start of the game. “No,” he said. “I didn’t speak with him [Rodri, about this], hopefully he thinks the same as me.”
BBC going hysterical over this Rodri injury. All day yesterday on the BBC Football website and today. And now on this podcast. More coverage than.......... enter here.
Don't forget Fergie had a successful stint at St Mirren, managing them to the First Division title, before things soured dramatically, prior to moving onto Aberdeen. Also...........did Meeks call them Chicago Bills or did I mishear that?!
for trossard and incidents like this is where this blue card law should come in place. you kick the ball like that u spend some time out of the match but not a red
Can't argue you want consistency in one breath, then say, "oh, but in BIG games..." in the next. What's a big game to a City fan isn't to an Arsenal fan. Oh, and a volley hasn't touched the floor yet, surely! a la volleyball.
Problem is Sobozali wasn't given aa 2nd yellow card, Jao Pedro wasn't carded, Doku wasn't carded. So when Arsenal have had 2 players sent off for it and nobody else has even had one, of course there will be questions.
Can’t believe the trossard convo is still happening .. he deserved 3 yellow cards ! THATS ON TROSSARD not the ref..the way he went through the back of the city player was 100%. A yellow so why are gooners crying so much ..
My god, Newcastle had with two of their centre backs last season getting ACL's and not a dicky bird from anyone but considering it's Rodri. Bore off. Why should the bigger games get special treatment? The rules are the rules Micah. This is the problem with the Premier League. All games should be treated fairly and evenly.
I'm not a fan of some of the laws refs have to follow. Trossard is still a fool, he could have got a yellow for either the challenge or kicking the ball away. I think teams should have a day to brush up on what will get you booked. Arsenal should not be losing another player due to this crap. Totally ruined that game.
Alans acl couldnt have been that bad. When I did mine it felt like I had been shot in the leg. Heard a huge pop and instantly couldnt walk or bear any weight on my leg. Couldnt play football for about 3 years.
Sorry, I can't agree with Micah. The issue with that game is twofold, the PGMOL & Michael Oliver. PGMOL are toothless against themselves & that's just rediculous. Oliver on the other hand shouldn't be a ref anymore. He's corrupt. City have him in their back pocket. Case in point the kick in the chest MacAllister received against City last season. The lack of cards for obvious fouls against City when Oliver officiates. It's too obvious. The four refs that were each paid £20,000 by the owner of City to officiate in Abu Dabi were also the four officials to officiate in a final which involved City last season, I think, only for City to win. Oliver as a ref is corrupt.
A team like Man City can afford to rotate their players, surely? A player needs to have so e rest from matches, this is why any team's bench should be more important instead of focusing purely on a starting 11 that'll play 200 of the team's 200 games.
He’s an important player but one man doesn’t make a team. Peps sides, wherever he’s coached have always been able to adapt to the loss of a key player and still succeed on the pitch. I think City would suffer more with the loss of Haaland, he’s become their primary source of goals and they have no like for like replacement. With losing Alvarez, their B Plan, so to speak has had to be reimagined, if Haaland got injured it would take about 6 games for the team to adapt to proficient level. I think all the loss of Rodri has done, is make this a more open title, where before it was City and Arsenal it now opens it up to include Liverpool and one otherside, that one depending on which side has that unexpected kind of season.
City didn't hv kdb for 19games injured game 1 won league against probably the hardest challenge in pool that season until us last n this n next decade COYG
When a dutch journalist asked van Dijk last year, are you ready have a pay cut of 20% when the schedule is 20 percent less games. Van Dijk said “No”. Now the clubs have a lot of players, sonthey can rotate and make a lot of changes during a game.
The footballers doesn't want 20 % less games ,they just don't want additional games ,such as (minimum 2 in CL 4 for the teams below 8th place) bigger club world cup with 32 teams which is ridiculous, expanding World cup ,Euros etc .. thats the main issue and they are right
Title reply: It depends on how long time Odegaard's rehab takes. He's (almost) as important for Arsenal as Rodri is for City. BTW: Fewer games a year! The public wants to watch teams in top form, not half-wornout "zombies" limping about on the pitch. TV firms will find out, eventually.
No arsenal arent favourites. They have injuries themselves, theyre also reknowned bottle jobs. what have they shown to convince anyone over the last 2 years they are actual challengers? THeyll just bottle it as always, Villa lookm more likely to challenge or win it.
Le deseo una pronta recuperación a Rodri porque sinceramente debió de haber ganado el Balón de Oro el año pasado e injustamente no lo recibió. Y en cuanto a la cantidad de partidos que se juegan en la actualidad, es indudable que los responsables son los organizadores de cada torneo y competencia (por ejemplo la FIFA, la UEFA, la Conmebol, etc.) dado que no les interesa que los jugadores se lesionen con tal de ganar mucho dinero; de ahí que, cada vez sea frecuente que inventen un nuevo campeonato o aumente el número de participantes en aquellos que ya existen. Saludos al gran Gary Lineker 🏴 🔟 🤩, a quien mis padres recuerdan por su participación en el mundial de México 1986 (yo apenas nací ese año 👶🏼), al siempre divertido y no menos interesante Micah 💪, así como al goleador Alan Shearer ⚫️⚪️9️⃣
2 things 1. Injuries happen in any sport regardless of games played, had a guy on my team do his acl during his 5th game hardly playing to much.... its part and parcel of sport... 2. This yellow card thing and blaming the ref/rules is nonsense.... firstly it's a second yellow he didn't get sent off because of it he git sent of because he was on a yellow and got another.... next you bang on about a ref making a decision, where's the responsibility of the player going im on a yellow card so I need to not do anything stupid..... you need to call out the player for his stupidity...... arguably the actual foul should have been a yellow anyhow.....
Players do play too much. And I’ll have none of this “teams should rotate” bullshit. As a fan, everyone wants to see their favourite players play. When we rotate we get; 1) why didn’t you play your best 11 And 2) oh he dropped this player - and rumours pop up (case in point Rashford rotated this past game week and Alan Shearer and Redknapp were saying something must have happened)
Are we at the point where players/ clubs will have to boycott tournaments to make a stand on the number of games? Or would that never happen today? Im thinking about Fergie taking United out of the FA cup 🤷♀️
Honestly. Seen people say he put his hands on Bernardo’s neck? I saw Trossard jump up for the ball with his arms pressed against himself as best he could. Def not card worthy.
A well executed half-volley is just as satisfying to watch as a volley. I didn’t realise there was any argument over the distinction! A half volley is a spontaneous shot caught on the cusp of a ball bouncing back up, how can that be disputed?
The arsenal players are not playing on a level playing field against referees, media, and PGMOL. Arsenal fans need to stop being naive on small margins on winning trophies 🏆 🙄. Last season, Manchester City won by 2 points, and Liverpool never got a penalty against the city by the same referee helping them win the trophy 🏆
I was initially listening to the podcast on Spotify (as Micah says other platforms are available) and had to switch over to RU-vid to leave this comment. The cheese question had me in laughter. I know Gary says he doesn't like blue cheese but loves cooking. My favourite is Gorgonzola. Please try it once. Keen listener of the podcast and if I ever hear you mention it in future it would make my year.
The hypocrisy from Alan shearer is a joke Roy Keane got a straight red card for throwing the ball at Alan shearer but when it’s Halaand against arsenal no red, for a group for footballers use are a bunch of hypocrites, any of these issues happened when use were playing use would have cried for weeks and Micha saying PGMOL are doing a fantastic job 😂 fuck me there a reason use don’t work for football clubs
Yeh, ACL has nothing to do with fatigue, which was his main complaint and you certainly can't make a case that it was fatigue 10 minutes into a match. I actually did my ACL in pre-season, Timber did his in the first game of last season far Arsenal. This is because ACL injuries are mostly prevented by having sufficient muscle support around the knee and ironically the break Rodri has had probably contributed to a lack of that.
@@SueMyChin I'm not sure you're understanding what athletes mean by fatigue Your body doesn't reset after each game or training session It's fatigue over years of high intensity, competitive sport, too often. You cannot actually recover when you have to be competitive during your recovery.
Rodri, injured? Karma is a bummer. Try not hitting the deck in the first three minutes feigning that you've been hit in the face, when you were not, a la Busquets. What goes around, comes around.
im an arsenal fan, and i think arsenal have been playing crap the start of the season, Rice has been woeful, but last season we was pretty crap before xmas tbh
We've had probably the hardest start of any team in the Prem so far this season, with 3 away games played against Villa, Spurs and City, and had red cards in 2 games; and yet we are still unbeaten. Just last week we had 3 very tough away games (Spurs, Atlanta and City) and didn't lose. Compare this to City who had 3 home games in the same period
you claimed as arsenal fans and talk rubbish, what a plastic fan, winning against spurs away without rice and odegaard is not crap, wtf are you watching, and we even won against villa that defeated as last season,
