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Does String Gauge Affect Tone? 10's vs. 13's Comparison 

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@pizzaman5169
@pizzaman5169 4 года назад
I started playing in 1962. I've had a lot of guitars over the years, Martin, Fender, Gibson, Rickenbacker & on. I have 3 physical disabilities(all forms of arthritis) & I had to stop playing in 2002 because my hands got so bad. Then, about a year ago, I tried to find a way to play again. I purchased the same model Epiphone you use in this video. I am very pleased with this guitar, seeing I didn't want to invest a few grand on a guitar if I couldn't play again. I use 10 gauge strings on it because they are easier on my hands & they serve my purpose well. I learned a more minimalistic way of playing so I can at least play again. The reason for my story, from an old guy like me, is to say that if you love playing, do your best to find a way to do so, no matter what the problem may be. For me, playing again has filled a hole in my life & in my heart. Even with all the pain, it makes me happy, and shouldn't we always try for happiness in life ? Play on, my friends, play on !!
@kikovlogs5344
@kikovlogs5344 4 года назад
pizzaman5169 very well said
@pizzaman5169
@pizzaman5169 4 года назад
Two high points in my life were being able to jam with Richie Havens & Joe Walsh. Walsh lived in Kent, Ohio when I went to school there, he was with the"James Gang" back then.
@callmedru
@callmedru 4 года назад
Stopped playing 15 years ago and thanks to covid, started playing again but my fingers are killing me. Maybe i should re string to 10's to soften the blow on my fingers
@pizzaman5169
@pizzaman5169 4 года назад
@Francis Lim I've lived with this for over 50 years & tried anything & everything to treat my conditions, but to no avail. I used the term arthritis as a way to make a quick point, but there is much more to it all than that. So, no, although your "idea" is appreciated, you don't know half of what it is !
@brianking5092
@brianking5092 4 года назад
I have nerve and muscular damage to my hands so I transitioned to playing "bottleneck" style with a slide with minimal fingering. I went to heavier strings, raised the action a little bit, and put a flatter radius on a new, taller, nut. The D maj chord tuning is down a step so the total tension on the neck is close to that of lighter strings. I'm having a blast now. I have added a resonator guitar and a cigar box guitar to the stable of noise makers. Never let life get in the way of making music.
@okshadowbannedjet7981
@okshadowbannedjet7981 4 года назад
it took some time to find someone to simply compare the sound, thank you for that! Cheers!
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Glad I could help!
@jesselefevre4945
@jesselefevre4945 3 месяца назад
It did t take some time
@DisturbedVette
@DisturbedVette 4 года назад
I wanna put 13’s on my electric, and make the action masochistically high, that way I can develop some good finger strength, and I’ll be the only person around who can play that guitar because when someone else tries to play it they’re like “bro wtf”. Update 01/25/24 Both my guitars are missing their jack, but anyway Ernie Ball heavy top skinny bottom is the way to go 👍 also I weld now 💀
@BluFEET1000
@BluFEET1000 4 года назад
Ahh, The SRV method i see...
@MartyTheCarGuy
@MartyTheCarGuy 4 года назад
I see you too are a man of culture
@WizardOfCheese
@WizardOfCheese 4 года назад
file down your frets so they buzz unless you press down hard
@shanubar91
@shanubar91 4 года назад
Lol I like the idea 🤣
@alexc.7807
@alexc.7807 4 года назад
you shouldn't really have to press that hard. I'm struggling right now trying to teach myself to press more lightly, which is better for intonation and accuracy
@karlparsons2031
@karlparsons2031 3 года назад
To me the 13s -- warmer, thicker. The10s -- brighter , thinner. Both useful
@hannibalclark6111
@hannibalclark6111 3 года назад
Agree 100%
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 4 года назад
I gotta admit that I really like the 10s, and I didn’t think I would. ?? They seem a little more focused, a little clearer. The 13s sound almost muffled at times compared to the 10s.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts Robby. I think it’s all up to preference!
@nitelad
@nitelad 4 года назад
My thoughts exactly
@thesedreamsarefree
@thesedreamsarefree 4 года назад
The 10s do sound brighter.
@jonathanpaulpano
@jonathanpaulpano 4 года назад
Yes it seems to choke the guitar
@bridudrum
@bridudrum 4 года назад
Robby Clark me too. I love them
@thedomeguy
@thedomeguy 4 года назад
I've always prefered lighter strings. The difference in tone between heavier and lighter strings has never really seemed like a big enough difference for me to care, and the lighter strings certainly don't sound bad. Lighter strings are easier to play, so as far as I'm concerned, they're the better choice.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts!
@tortoise2.04
@tortoise2.04 4 года назад
But lighter stings break easier. But I do bend alot that's like my only trick.
@tortoise2.04
@tortoise2.04 4 года назад
But lighter stings break easier. But I do bend alot that's like my only trick.
@thedomeguy
@thedomeguy 4 года назад
@@tortoise2.04 Admittedly I don't really do string bends anymore, but about 10 years ago I did lots of shred and bluesy solo playing with heavy bending. I don't think I've ever broken a string once, even playing as light as 8s on my electric. I even used Floyd Rose bridges a lot. But hey, if the heavier strings work better for you, and give you the feel and sound you like, then that's what you should should use.
@timbervandenhul9383
@timbervandenhul9383 2 года назад
@@tortoise2.04 I have never broken a string by bending, even when bending 5 half steps for example. I use 10's from D'addario on my electrics. On acoustics I don't really bend more than 2 half steps. In my experience broken strings are caused by sharp edges on the tuners/bridge. Or just worn out/corroded strings.
@AGKyran
@AGKyran 4 года назад
I honestly thought the difference would be much more noticable. Thanks for this video !
@franciscomazali
@franciscomazali 2 года назад
I think the main difference is in the pick sound. with the lighter gauge you get higher volume but it comes with this twinkling sound in the right hand. the heavier gauge is so more smooth and warm on the touch. nice job!
@Tarik78671
@Tarik78671 Год назад
Lighter picks also make a lovely percussive sound
@etralin3dream983
@etralin3dream983 Год назад
Sounds backwards
@oscarbrito3287
@oscarbrito3287 4 года назад
I think heavier strings like 13's and 14's work well on non-standard tunnings. I prefer 10-11's for standard tunning.
@GuitarType01
@GuitarType01 4 года назад
11’s are perfect
@markellis8621
@markellis8621 2 года назад
I’ve got an Epiphone dove pro acoustic. And I use 13’s tuned to Eb. Feels and sounds great for me. Personal preference really i suppose.
@vandyman1716
@vandyman1716 4 года назад
I feel like the 13s have a better tone on the lower strings, but the 10s help you to hear that high E string a little clearer
@cleangoblin2021
@cleangoblin2021 Год назад
answer could be custom gauge strings. Mixed 10s with 54s atop
@TheMarc52
@TheMarc52 4 года назад
I like the 10s better. There's better midrange and more clarity in the highs. Just better articulation and differentiation overall. The bass seems a bit fuller with the 13s, but, next to the 10s, it sounded a bit muddy. Thanks for doing this.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts Marc!
@kimlodrodawa123
@kimlodrodawa123 Год назад
Just changed my strings from 11 to 13 on my acoustic. Wow, what an amazing sound. I dont think I will ever go back to thinner strings. Too much pling pling in those thinner strings imo. But its a personal taste. So there is no right and wrong.
@mattiecreates
@mattiecreates Год назад
hows your fingers ? notice a huge difference of discomfort while playing?
@kimlodrodawa123
@kimlodrodawa123 Год назад
@@mattiecreates - A good setup is actually more important than the gauge size, when comes to fingertips. - I have fat farmer fingers, so need to pull or push strings a bit now and then to make clean sound. The 13 strings is for sure harder to pull/push. So I have gone down to 12, which make it more easy. Also I tune in 432 hz, which also slightly slack the strings. - I prefer the 13 strings for sound, but compromise is 12 strings. Still good bass sound and thinner strings not too much pling pling. As I get more skilled and hardened fingertips, I might go back to 13 strings, but for now 12 is what I use.
@RogerioDuarte
@RogerioDuarte Год назад
I changed from 011 to 012 I liked it.
@francescosessa8719
@francescosessa8719 2 года назад
In my experience the thickness of the pick changes tone more than the strings So l use 1mm thick pick with a very warm sound on a set of brighter 10’ which are easier to play and have more sustain than 13. Thanks for great video
@jimmy5634
@jimmy5634 2 года назад
Not only the thickness, but the material the pick is made of. As an example, Nylon will give you a less crisp tone and that will be the constant on any string gauge.
@francescosessa8719
@francescosessa8719 2 года назад
@@jimmy5634 agree, picks are many with different flavors.
@enforcer41
@enforcer41 10 месяцев назад
Exactly, don't like the tone of your guitar change the pick as it's much cheaper than buying a new guitar.
@bobnolin9155
@bobnolin9155 4 месяца назад
I love Dunlop Primetones. Hand-beveled, not expensive, and they do sound better, to my ear.
@tikigodsrule2317
@tikigodsrule2317 4 года назад
When I was young I listen to music and wanted to play guitar. Took lessons and lived with some guys that taught me a lot and would go into the music store to stare at the multi $1000 guitars. Some friends and I went in and the shop owner showed us a cheap used guitar we promptly made fun of. We didn't like the cheap construction, no fancy inlays, obviously dead strings... After we moved on to badly play the forbidden song a very old guy that looked like your school janitor picked up the junk guitar and started to play. Lightning struck that room and to this day I have rarely heard such playing. I was young and knew everything so it took a long time for this to sink in. Its not the guitar at all its the performance. Most people in the audience won't have a clue what brand of guitar you have or strings are on it or care. They will hear your technical skill but that sounds like a machine, are you in there? Playing with abandon, lost in the music or just walking through it? Maybe I just need the courage and have more confidence holding a Martin D28, I need a crutch. Truth is none of my music hero's got there because they played a Martin D28. Hell Glen Campbell played an Ovation. But he played the hell out of it and it really would not have mattered to anyone in the audience if the guitar had Daddario or Elixer strings. I'm a lot more humble now and cannot use the excuse that I don't play better because I don't have a D28. But I never, never play the forbidden song in a music store...
@Ky6Stringer
@Ky6Stringer 2 года назад
Some may describe the 13s as "more full," but I would describe the 13s as "muddy." To my ear, the 10s offer a better tonal balance with the added benefit of improved playability.
@DaleRobertSzyms
@DaleRobertSzyms 5 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing, the 13s sounded muddy. I have arthritis in my hands so I was thinking about switching to 10s myself and was going to record my guitar with 12s on it originally but I guess now I don’t have to do a comparison. Thanks!!!
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer 2 года назад
It really depends on song or instrumental that I'm writing and recording. I tend to use 10's or even 9's (which are hard to find) when I'm finger picking arpeggios and strumming chords. If I'm mainly just strumming then sometimes I'll use 13 for a bit more loudness and less high end. The other big thing that people need to watch out for, is the over all tension that 13's put on the guitar string bridge and also on the neck. Acoustic guitars that are inexpensive tend to have bridge lifting issues down the road, a light gauge string like 10's or 9's are better to mitigate that.
@nikitafagerbrant2428
@nikitafagerbrant2428 3 года назад
Clearly it is not a revolutionary difference between 13 and 10. I would say the most primary choise is what you prefer as sound. Thicker gauge did give a bit more sustain on the bass strings. But, non of them was bad. For a beginner I would defenitly recommend the lighter gauge.
@firebald2915
@firebald2915 8 месяцев назад
Going from a thicker pick (deeper sound) to a thinner pick .38 Dunlop (brighter sound) on any string set up gauges. Try it. Plus, where you pick on the strings ie; behind the sound hole or over it and at the base of the neck. Sound is all over the places where you plan to pick. It's not just the strings gauge.
@mikeyyg2000
@mikeyyg2000 3 года назад
Man, you have some amazing technique and skill. I've seen men playing for 40+ years that couldn't showcase the skills you just did in this 10 minute video. It's always nice to have someone around that plays guitar. It can turn a simple moment into a beautiful music filled moment that everyone will remember. It's amazing how that works. I'm 27 and am just learning about the peace and serenity that it can bring into a home. This video gave me alot of motivation to keep learning. Keep up the good work!!
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Thank you Mikey! I appreciate the kind words
@TeoBDuremdes
@TeoBDuremdes 3 года назад
I am really very thankful that I don't have a very keen set of ears that most of you guys here have. They both sound the same to me. And if ever there is really a difference that most of you guys pointed out, I think it's barely noticeable to a usual crowd or audience who just love to listen to a good music.. This video confirmed that in choosing between two exactly the same set of specs of strings, I just have to pick the lighter gauge because of the more smooth and relax feeling it can provide than the heavy gauge strings can. Less tension, less stress and longer period of time to enjoy playing the guitar. Thanks for this video. Cheers!
@michaelgao8621
@michaelgao8621 3 года назад
Hi Alex, I like 11-52 Custom light gauge, because it’s much easier than 13 medium gauge and sounds more beautiful
@danielreeves222
@danielreeves222 8 месяцев назад
Hey Alex I know this is an older video so maybe you won’t see this. But long time subscriber - really enjoy your videos. Your playing and professionalism really comes out in your vids and they have been super helpful for me. I know on most of your videos you mention you try not to let your opinions and biases come out - I for one would really enjoy a full opinion and bias video! Just a video where you show the gear you use professionally for gigs, what you prefer and have learned over the years, what strings you use and why. You could even mention gear you’ve tried that you really didn’t mesh with. Anyways, keep up the great work and hope you are well.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 8 месяцев назад
Hey Daniel, I appreciate you man! I actually just recently did a video going through my entire instrument collection. I mentioned what strings and picks I use for each one, so maybe that's helpful? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WovXsOeebmk.html
@danielreeves222
@danielreeves222 8 месяцев назад
Oh man, totally missed that. Thanks for taking time to respond and direct me there!
@myvalium1
@myvalium1 3 года назад
I’m in the process of buying a new guitar and your experiment was super helpful in my decision for setup. Thnx - great job!!
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
That’s great to hear! And congrats in advance on the new guitar 🎸 🔥
@bentlyist
@bentlyist 2 года назад
I love the feel and sound of 13s on my Taylor. I rarely use a pick on that guitar so the feel is really important to me and it gives me confidence when I play. That said, it's all the way down to 10s on my electric, played with a pick.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 года назад
The 10s (they also make 9s in 85/15 Bronze etc) make your Acoustic feel like an Electric & the sound is more percussive too. 10s might work in a Bluegrass setting cause you know how much faster you can really play.
@tx5brent
@tx5brent 3 года назад
Ok, I'm going to buy some 10's now. I don't need my acoustic to be loud, but I want it to sound a little brighter.
@Weeble_Warbles
@Weeble_Warbles 4 года назад
I'm really digging your videos. I like the 10's, but it's all personal preference. I tend to be drawn toward brighter sounding guitars. Both sounded nice, just depends on what you're going after. Great video.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
I’m glad people find them interesting, and I love hearing everyone’s thoughts. Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏼
@silesia93
@silesia93 Год назад
Exactly what I was looking for and you even have the same guitar as me so it's twice as useful! Thanks!👏
@jimwing.2178
@jimwing.2178 8 месяцев назад
I preferred the light strings by a large margin in your demo. I play a couple of Martins: HD28V (dreadnaught) and OM28V (orchestra). I went from mediums strings to light and I thought the tone of both improved. While recovering from a bad injury to my fretting hand I tried extra light gage on both. I'm fully recovered now and still use extra light strings. I might try lights again, but I'll probably never go back to mediums. BTW, I did not have to make any adjustments to the guitars to compensate the different gages.
@minnesotajack1
@minnesotajack1 4 года назад
I would be interested in seeing this experiment on a $600-$700 guitar 13s seem to lack definition of notes. To me it crosses past warm to muddy
@whatsupchicken
@whatsupchicken 6 месяцев назад
This! Or even a 3000 USD guitar. I assume a high-end guitar may react differently! (Maybe not...)
@qusai_aesthetics
@qusai_aesthetics 3 года назад
13 gauge feels warmer I think, but maybe harder to play for some people. Thank you for this comparison.
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 Год назад
Very nice comparison. I thought the 0.13s really stood out when you were playing louder, more bluegrass style. They have more of a "thump" in the bass and the runs sounded more "articulate" somehow. With quiet playing I didn't hear much difference at all in the lower and middle range. At the upper range the 10s sounded a little brighter. All in all I feel assured that standard 0.12s are a good middle ground and I don't feel the need to investigate other gauges.
@Natit227
@Natit227 4 года назад
I have the same guitar as yours, do you know the stock strings of Dr-100? cause i wanna change strings as well but the same as the stock strings. Thanks sorry for my english
@alexgochman6654
@alexgochman6654 4 года назад
.013, .017, .026, .035, .045, .056
@kozzyozzyrozy6596
@kozzyozzyrozy6596 12 дней назад
which is better for a high e string 10 or the 13 gauge
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 12 дней назад
@@kozzyozzyrozy6596 definitely the 13s are my preference
@kozzyozzyrozy6596
@kozzyozzyrozy6596 12 дней назад
@@AlexPriceMusician thanks youre a life saver 😂
@nikhiliyer9371
@nikhiliyer9371 3 года назад
My personal choice would be D'Addario Custom light gauge (0.11). It's ideal from the standpoint of comfort, playability, dexterity and acoustics.
@TheExtraTerrestrial
@TheExtraTerrestrial 3 года назад
Cool, I was thinking the same thing. I currently gave lights, but am about to try the custom lights. Did you try both?
@kimrileymusic
@kimrileymusic 2 года назад
I always have played 11's and found them perfect to play for ease and great sound. I just put 10's on my expensive jumbo, a bit sacrilegious, but the neck is slightly wider than I prefer and I am having a bit of a harder time ....the jury is still out. But 11's have always been great for me.
@robertnewell5057
@robertnewell5057 4 года назад
brilliantly presented comparison. No real difference on my headphones.
@mattiecreates
@mattiecreates Год назад
Great playing! thanks for doing this comparison
@daniellombardo9049
@daniellombardo9049 4 года назад
I prefer 10's gauge, I prefer the attack and the high frequency with that gauge plus I feel more comfortable play 10 gauge.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks so much for your thoughts!
@bradgray9703
@bradgray9703 4 года назад
I recently purchased a Cort acoustic (solid top spruce) ply sides project guitar I repaired a crack in the top and replaced the bridge. I also replaced the nut and saddle with bone. At the time I didn't have any strings for an acoustic,so I put the only new strings I had,on it.#9 electric strings. I knew it would play easy,but I thought the sound would be terrible. Really surprised me! I've played Bluegrass for many years,and always used 12's and banged them hard. I've ordered 10's for this guitar, and will soon be replacing the strings on my other acoustics with 10's.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Awesome to hear your experience! Thanks for sharing Brad
@enforcer41
@enforcer41 10 месяцев назад
I did something similar years ago after breaking strings on a weekend used electric 9's and was surprised at how good the guitar sounds. I use 11's mostly now
@enzocypriani5055
@enzocypriani5055 Год назад
I always had a preference for heavier gauge, in this examples I got a further confirmation that's how I like
@DougHinVA
@DougHinVA 4 года назад
amplification can be turned up easily... use the strings you play comfortably. I played a lot of open mic nights and find that 11-52 is my choice in 80/20 bronze since I play with nails (from classical lessons). 12-54 is standard light.
@javierdiazsantana
@javierdiazsantana 3 года назад
Hey there Alex. Greetings from Mexico. Hoping you are doing very well, i would like to ask you: I actually want to try out thicker strings (12/53 or 12/56 bluegrass from D'Addario) but i have an used guitar (Not vintage, actually seminew) which i don't know if it could hold up to that tension. I strung it with phosphor 11/52's and let it sit for a week on E flat tuning, and tuned it up to pitch today... Sounds great but the instrument's top was already slightly bent behind the bridge since i tuned it to E flat, i guess it had some random generic 80/20's before and i don't know in which gauge... Still i heard from my luthier that is normal in all instruments, but depending on the degree of it it could be normal or bad, and lead to the bridge getting loose and falling apart from the top, still i don't think that would happen since the bridge is screw - joint to the top... I could actually be playing lead or in a bluegrass group, i really enjoy doing it. Actually bought the guitar for playing in the street and stuff, for around 75 dollars, here in Mexico. Do you recommend me to try next a 12/53 or even the 12/56 on the guitar, after letting sit the 11's for a couple months? I would also like to know, the tuners on it are quite stiff, i don't know if higher tension strings could damage the tuners (Die cast actually, if they were open gear i would lube them up and tighten the screws... Greetings, i await for your answer. Take care. Another thing worth mentioning, the 10's are actually very easy to play but also to fretbuzz and distort, at the other side, 12's and above sound much better since they don't fail anymore... The sound is deeper and fuller, with more volume. And also, the thicker strings since they're higher tension, are physically harder to distort and buzz, and the strings do actually move less because of the tension and produce a louder sound, on that the top moves faster... I would also like to test that myself... The thicker strings do sound warmer...
@lynnglidewell7367
@lynnglidewell7367 4 месяца назад
I honestly thought the two string sets sounded near the same. The larger gage had more bass and that's what I like. I like the boom.
@omni_naomi
@omni_naomi 4 года назад
Thanks for comparing the two, helped me to decide which ones I want to go for - 13 it is! :) Great guitar skills by the way!
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the compliments
@GuitarUniverse2013
@GuitarUniverse2013 3 года назад
This is videos are excellent and they take a lot of time; so much appreciated. There are other factors to consider when comparing gauges of strings. I feel the lighter strings will get knocked out of tune more readily than the heavier gauge strings. You already mentioned the difference in volume, but drilling down just in that factor alone means that it requires more pressure to play a higher gauge string and that’s harder on your fingers, yeah at the same time because the string is latter you don’t have to hit it hard with your right hand! Since all tone really comes from human fingers, the use of various fingerpicks and plectrums is also going to have an effect. I’m a big fan of heavy gauge strings, but after 50 years plus of plain mediums and heavies the arthritis in my hand is so bad that I basically can’t play professionally anymore. I bring this up because youngsters think they’re invincible, at least I thought I was invincible. So try to factor in your long-term play ability as well. Musicians are both artists and craftspersons because we need to use our body as our tool just like any carpenter or wheel right with use. In the meantime, keep rocking
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Thanks! I appreciate hearing your thoughts
@HaniJIsmail
@HaniJIsmail 2 года назад
First of all, Id like to say you play amazing. I've had a guitar for many years and am still a noob but still have lots of fun with my acoustic! I just broke a set of strings (13s) and the tone sounds similar to yours. I thought heavier strings would sound better (thats what everyone seems to say) but after hearing my friends guitar (and playing it) with 10s and then watching this comparison I've got to say, for my playing the 10s sound way better. Especially on full chords it's like I can hear every note. With the heavy strings, I feel like the 6th and 5th string muffle out all the other notes of the chord......I have been struggling with this in my own playing to the point where I just try to hit 4 strings when I play a chord or else it just sounds too muffled for my taste.
@IIVVBlues
@IIVVBlues 3 года назад
Lighter gauge for standard tuning. Heavier gauge for lower tuning, especially open tunings. Martin tells you the gauges that their guitars are designed for and it is probably wise to stay within those limits, if you value your investment. Solid wood guitars, as a rule, take light to medium gauge. The player makes most of the difference in the sound that comes out of a guitar and that includes strings. Remember that there were no light gauge strings in the first few decades of steel string acoustics, they were all , what we would designate as medium or heavy. Light gauge began to be popular with advent of the electric guitar in the 50s. Early folk and old time players did not really "bend" strings. In the 60s, bending became the rage and the string market responded. Luthiers began designing guitars specifically for the, now available, light gauge strings. Now, with new technology and guitar design, very light strings are capable of driving very delicate and subtle sounds, but the best idea is to generally stick to the gauge for which your guitar was designed.
@presentelaw
@presentelaw 3 года назад
Agreed. You'll have to follow the maker's suggestion on gauges because some bracing could be scalloped more than others.
@garymcaleer6112
@garymcaleer6112 3 года назад
Good post, Alex. Appreciate the common sense approach. I subscribed some time ago but hadn't seen you for awhile. Hope all is well these days.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Thanks, you too! Been really busy lately, which is good.
@markmacalik9693
@markmacalik9693 2 года назад
I compromise and use 11 to 12. Sometimes I can get the 11.5. To me the heavier strings sound better fingerpicked since you can get more low end and don't need to use a lot of force. I use lighter gauges for picks since I can hit them harder and still have that clarity. Maybe I'm just different from a lot of players!
@StuartThompson-d1i
@StuartThompson-d1i 3 месяца назад
I use 13s but tune down a full step to D Standard. For standard e tuning I like 11s or 12s. My Furch came with 12s on as standard but it’s 13s for the extra tension to compensate for the full step drop. Happy playing to all. Enjoy!
@themindwasntbuilttobendthi833
@themindwasntbuilttobendthi833 4 года назад
The 13's seemed to give a warmer tone perhaps. The 10's had a very nice tone and appeared brighter. Over all what actually caught me was you were more fluid and at ease with the 10's and seemed to struggle just a bit with the 13's which would be totally understandable as that's a significant leap in gauge variance. Thanks for the video it's very helpful in my decision process toward picking a string suitable for my playing style.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Also a good thing to note. I felt like I had more control in my right hand with the 13s as the 10s kind of quacked out quickly when playing harder. But then the opposite was true - in the left hand the 13s were harder to play.
@themindwasntbuilttobendthi833
@themindwasntbuilttobendthi833 4 года назад
@@AlexPriceMusician That's what I picked up on apparently. I guess if your doing more arpeggio style tunes 13's would be the way to go. I found 11's were my sweet string mostly from your video I was able to figure an 11 would work for me cause I switch from pick to finger style depending on the songs needs. Thanks again for the informative assessment you provided.
@grandpabucky7702
@grandpabucky7702 4 года назад
@@AlexPriceMusician 12's might be the answer then...
@williammarine973
@williammarine973 2 года назад
What action height can you get away with when putting extra light strings on? How low can you go and not get fret buzz with moderate strumming?
@supunwedasinghe1
@supunwedasinghe1 4 года назад
Hello Alex , one of my guitar is very hard to press the chords , the strings a bit aware from the Fretboard, don’t no which gauge of strings that I put, any opinion ?
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Hi Supun - there are a number of things that can affect how easy the strings are to press down. Thicker gauge strings (like 13s) will be pretty tough and if they’re strung high off the fretboard, that’ll make it even harder. If the strings are too high, I would suggest addressing that first.
@supunwedasinghe1
@supunwedasinghe1 4 года назад
Alex Price thanks for the suggestions, even iv no ideas which gauge iv put, will try to put 10s 👌🏾🤗
@StevenPatrick
@StevenPatrick 4 года назад
i agree the 10's sound way more crisper for a better all around sound good video man
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for watching Steven. Glad it was helpful.
4 года назад
Very great comparison. I always thought my acoustic's sound to be so "bright", and now I realized it may has to do with having .10 strings on it. That darker sound from .13 is what I am looking for. However, I'm afraid to spoil the action, which is already so nice and comfortable...
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
You can get the action the same with 13 gauge strings! Just will need a bit of work. Try going up to 11 gauge and see what happens first.
@custerranch
@custerranch 4 года назад
It's a pretty quick turn of your truss rod, if you notice a change in your action. All you need is an Allen wrench.
@vishtrinity
@vishtrinity 4 года назад
the guitar tone is pretty think,,and the 13s are making it unneccesarily muddy,i guess its the tonewood
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
There's a new gauge of Phosphor Bronze Strings Super Light 9s.
@NinetyRalph
@NinetyRalph Год назад
I have really good headphones, even dropped your video into a daw to check with a graphical eq and I can't tell the difference, maybe in volume?
@DG-mv6zw
@DG-mv6zw 2 года назад
Totally agree with all your comments about having electronics in cheaper guitars.
@AllbeeHivezChristianAllbee
@AllbeeHivezChristianAllbee 2 года назад
Very good comparison. I use 10's myself on acoustic guitar (One with 80/20 bronze and another soon to have nickel bronze). If it’s good enough for Jimmy Page, it’s good enough for me.
@jonathankim7238
@jonathankim7238 4 года назад
13 obviously louder and sound warmer but I prefer the sound of 10. 10 sound much brighter and crisper. It also makes playing a lot easier. 10 is the winner for me.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts Jonathan!
@MikeVlcek
@MikeVlcek 4 года назад
Have you guys seen Beato’s video on the subject? I believe when capturing a recording, the lighter strings have a more focused sound. However, I also agree that for live playing the heavier gauge allows for a better feel of the instrument as you can dig harder without going out of tune. So I’d say go for whichever gauge you prefer when playing live, but go back to .10s when recording acoustic guitar. That’d be the best of both worlds. Maybe have two guitars with specific setups for live and studio? Cheers.
@MichaelAuerswald
@MichaelAuerswald 5 лет назад
Even if there's a difference in tone, it's hardly noticeable _and_ just a difference, not necessarily better. However the playability of 10s is so much nicer, imho! In the end, if you're an equally good player on 10s and 13s it probably doesn't matter and you may want to use 13s for the volume, but if you struggle with your playing on 13s even a bit, compared to 10s.... I mean there's no choice there. The weakest link in the entire sound chain is almost always the player. So each player should make their life as easy as possible and not use any string gauges or other things just because "you're supposed to".
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Michael Auerswald well said Michael. I think the most important thing above all else is to be comfortable on your instrument. I prefer heavier strings myself because I like how they feel too. Most of my electrics I keep with 11s or 12s
@theelfking904
@theelfking904 4 года назад
I completely agree. Playability matters.
@gaz__0782
@gaz__0782 4 года назад
Thanks for making dis video 😎👍🏻👊🏻
@TheExtraTerrestrial
@TheExtraTerrestrial 3 года назад
How about custom lights (11 up top and 52 down low)? I currently have EXP16s (lights), but am wondering how the custom lights would be.
@Mark.R.
@Mark.R. 3 года назад
You went to a ton of work to put this together! Kudos! I didn't notice much difference other than the lower tones stood out more on the 13's. But then, I didn't have the volume on the video cranked, either. I'm playing some open tunings and getting buzzing with the 12's I have, so will try 13's. Based on your video, I think it will sound fine. Thanks! (Epiphone EJ-160E John Lennon edition)
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts Mark. Glad it was helpful!
@jasonsan9517
@jasonsan9517 3 года назад
I’m basically a new guitar player. I want to practice more but the strings kinda start to make my hands hurt after awhile. I have heavier strings and I’ve been thinking about trying lighter strings. I have been afraid it would make my guitar sound tingly or shallow sounding. Thank you for taking the time to make this video! I listened with headphones on. I hear a slight difference but not enough to make me not want to try lighter strings! Thank you so very much for making this video! It really helped!
@jericdavidjones6200
@jericdavidjones6200 3 года назад
For me personally thicker guitar is really good, it will serve your guitar good trust me.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Heavier string in my opinion sound better, but for a beginner I would definitely not recommend them. I'd say to start with 10s or 11s so you're not struggling. 13s are definitely way harder to play.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 3 года назад
RU-vid's compression killed any difference. I'm listening with high end head phones. That said, the reason I would go with 10s is playability. I'm learning guitar and I have an Epiphone DR-100 VS. I'm having trouble with chords that I can do an an Ibanez GIO GRX70. So I'm switching my Epi to ultra-lights. While I'm there, I plan to deal with the action via bone nut, saddle, and pegs. My saddle is a bit short, but I don't think that will be an issue with intonation. Fingers crossed. I can always go back of course. I think the reality in sound is what you prefer. As for playability, that becomes more objective. If you can't do the A chord without killing the high E string or messing other things up, then what's the point? IMO, the Epiphone is a good guitar to experiment with due to cost. If I had a $3,300 Martin D-28, then I would want it PERFECT from the factory. No requirement for a luthier. With the Epiphone, I can be my own luthier up to a point.
@fromchomleystreet
@fromchomleystreet 4 года назад
There’s a lot of “conventional wisdom” in the guitar world that unfortunately owes at least as much to macho bullshit than it does to anything remotely scientific. The “thicker gauge is better” school of thought is one of these. Basically, a real man can bend piano wire with his pinky. Light gauge is for wimps and girls. But, of course, saying that out loud makes you sound like an utter tool, so instead it gets justified by vague, esoteric mutterings about “tone”. Lighter strings are a little bit brighter. Heavier strings are a little bit darker. That’s it. It’s negligible. The much more significant difference is that you can play lighter strings better, faster, and for much longer (both in terms of a practice session and in terms of your guitar playing life). If you are a beginner, anybody who tells you that you should put heavy strings on that thing “to build up strength” or for any other bullshit reason doesn’t know what they’re talking about, and you can turn around and thank them for the hand cramps that will curtail your guitar playing career before you’re fifty. As someone else put it in the comments for another video, “you can EQ a guitar tone. You can’t EQ tendonitis out of your hand”.
@sugamtyagi101
@sugamtyagi101 4 года назад
bruh! thanks for opening my eyes.
@gomezfrancisco4577
@gomezfrancisco4577 3 года назад
you forgot to add that thicker strings sound louder and stay in tune longer
@timothy6966
@timothy6966 3 года назад
This ^. You said it. The whole tone thing is bullshit. If you want a “deeper” sound, turn up the bass on your amp, or get a decent EQ if your amps EQ is insufficient. If you want to play on barbed wire strings, knock yourself out, but know that it’s just an exercise in masochism. Maybe you can impress a couple of hipsters as well.
@gomezfrancisco4577
@gomezfrancisco4577 3 года назад
@@timothy6966 we're talking acoustic tho, no amp involved
@gomezfrancisco4577
@gomezfrancisco4577 3 года назад
@@timothy6966 or atleast i am
@romonaor
@romonaor 3 года назад
to be honest i don't find too much difference in sound but perhaps you will need more conditions to play thicker strings? imo I will go with 9-42
@lorenzor2555
@lorenzor2555 4 месяца назад
I think it all depends on the style of playing of eachone. If you play bluegrass go for 13. If you play together with other instruments, 13 or 12. If you play alone, especially using fingerstyle, go for 10 or 11, and especially If you also sing while playing. I use mostly fingers and I sing, so I prefer 10 or 11, both for playabilty, and for less volume which suits better for my voice
@Asadkhan-lh1wc
@Asadkhan-lh1wc 4 года назад
Hey I am a beginner and I want to learn some of the progressions you did can you plzz make a tutorial for beginners?
@KevinMillard68
@KevinMillard68 Год назад
string guage makes a huge difference in tone/sound thats a given the dr-100 comes with 13-56 which are a bit on the heavy side and hard on the fingers as well
@marcellofreitas7356
@marcellofreitas7356 4 года назад
I use 10s in my electric guitars. I´m still using my Fender FA125CE original strings which hurt my fingers a bit. In this video I like the 10s sound, so I think I will use them when I change strings.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Let me know how it goes Marcello!
@armanddimeo6575
@armanddimeo6575 2 года назад
I think 12s are the best overall for an acoustic guitar, not too heavy or too light. If you want a meatier tone, use John Pearse 12s (600Ls). I can see why John Pearse strings are popular with bluegrass players. Also, D'Addario makes bluegrass gauge strings with heavier strings on the top three and lighter gauge on the bottom three (12 to 56).
@wmvdw1978
@wmvdw1978 3 года назад
Thank you for the interesting comparison! Just a sidenote, for the same money as your guitar I got a Harley Benton dreadnought with solid top and bone nut and saddle.
@Ian-tk3rq
@Ian-tk3rq Год назад
That was very helpful thank you and well played
@D3fcon141
@D3fcon141 3 года назад
The 13s sound a little fuller, and they're what my guitar came with. I've had no trouble after I built my calluses up, and so I stuck with em.
@leonardoduret
@leonardoduret 3 года назад
I have exactly the same guitar , having trouble with vibration and maybe the thickness of my 11 elixir custom light polyweb strings , mind explaining at 2:51 how to adjust the relief of the neck and the saddle please . Thanks
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
Hi Leo - check this video out that I put together a few months back: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eJ6LxQTM60s.html Start with the truss rod and make sure the neck of your instrument is straight. Go slowly. Then if you still need to lower the action, you can do so by taking the saddle and sanding the bottom of it on a flat surface. Always work slowly and check your work often.
@leonardoduret
@leonardoduret 3 года назад
@@AlexPriceMusician thanks
@sashabagdasarow497
@sashabagdasarow497 4 года назад
I've bought guitar just few months ago. It is a handheld guitar. Me and my wife started playing all day, and then, suddenly, string snapped. We went to buy new ones, since it was kind of hard to play, we bought 9s. I think, we had 11s, but sound difference was incredible. 11s (I assume) sounded just like bass. Really deep and powerful, while 9s (which we bought) sound lightweight and clean. Both is cool. But I just want to state, how obvious it is in real life. I think it's about vibrations, if not sound, then.
@JediBuji
@JediBuji 5 лет назад
Yeah, hard for me to hear a difference through the internet, but I assume this underscores the point that if you are mic'ing there is less of a difference, but straight acoustic, there's always a big difference to me. I also find that lighter strings have a tendency to have tempering (?) issues less than thicker ones, and are more susceptible to ~+5 cent changes in relative tuning due to the additional deformation of the string in between frets by an over-aggressive style. I also feel that thicker strings being inherently louder are probably better for the novice payer, to help keep them from overplaying the instrument. I've got a smaller body blackbird carbon fiber that I use for my normal gigs and daily driver, and I really would like to get into some lighter strings, but the sweet spot for it really seems to be .13-.56 sets, the punch just seems to drop out of the guitar if I go with anything lighter, exact same string sets you used to demo here BTW. Keep up the good work, love your stuff. Just had someone ask me the other day what we were listening to - it was the Inner Urge album and they were all digging it. -cheers
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 5 лет назад
Buji Thank you! As long as people are interested I will keep making the videos. Thanks for your thoughts!
@carlomaletti4284
@carlomaletti4284 8 месяцев назад
I used my headphones. Volume aside, I think l 6:25 6:25 prefer the tone of the 10s. To me the 13s sound a bit duller by comparison. Should l go see an ear specialist?😉
@MustafaBaabad
@MustafaBaabad 3 года назад
Only when you really observe it than, yes gauge 13 is crispier and better than 10 gauge. Gauge 10 rings a little bit longer and it ruins the clarity of the tones. Thanks chief for your useful effort. Cheers from Indonesia.
@TheTektronik
@TheTektronik 4 года назад
10's have more sustain on them while 13's have more volume.
@jimmarinella9455
@jimmarinella9455 4 года назад
Nice video. I liked the brightness of the tens. Overall I thought the preformer was the winner. Nice playing.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Thanks for your thoughts Jim!
@theelfking904
@theelfking904 4 года назад
I haven't try the 10. Surprise that I like the sound of 10 in this video. I use 12 because I love the deep sound of thicker strings.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
I still do prefer the sound of thicker strings, but I think that the 10s have their own character. They’re not bad - just different.
@gothicwriter9897
@gothicwriter9897 3 месяца назад
Thank you. As a beginner I don't know what strings are on my guitars. I have a £100 cheap but good enough acoustic and a £500 Martin acoustic with electrics which I don't use. I am going to find out what strings I have and switch to 10s because at the moment my priority is learning to play better.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 месяца назад
@@gothicwriter9897 I support that, I usually have my beginning students start on 10s or 11s on acoustic. You may need a truss rod adjustment as most acoustic guitars come from the factory with 12s. Try the new strings and if you’re getting a bit of buzz or if the strings seem too close to the fretboard, you could loosen the truss rod by a quarter turn and see if that helps.
@gothicwriter9897
@gothicwriter9897 3 месяца назад
@@AlexPriceMusician Thanks.
@wilku7272
@wilku7272 4 года назад
what strings should I choose to achieve a sound with strong bass and slightly prolonged violins? one for the bonfire, for beating the songs. As close as possible to a classical guitar. thank you in advance
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 4 года назад
Prolonged what? Anyway, if you want something similar to a classical guitar, you could try folk strings. They’re nylon but with a ball end on them so they’ll work with normal acoustic guitars.
@theghost4116
@theghost4116 2 года назад
How about in terms of quality? Does gauge 10 strings often snaps than gauge 13 strings?
@wiwiksundari8668
@wiwiksundari8668 Год назад
Very nice video, Sir. *sorry for my English grammar. I'm an amateur/semi-pro, I like light tension strings & I do loves the jingle jangle/chimey sounds. I only use the Aluminium Bronze 10s from Ernie Ball or Martin Retro Monel 10s or Martin Originals 80/20 10s with my humble 25.5 scale non-ladder bracing 2005 Korean Epiphone EJ-160E. Oh and I use 1.0 pick, the 351 from Dunlop Primetone
@matthewjdouglas6471
@matthewjdouglas6471 Год назад
Ernie Ball burly slinky 11-52 would these be ok a beginner?? Any advise would be grateful 🙏 loved the video. I luke the tone of the 10s they are very bright the 13 has a more thicker tone. To my ears anyway
@jimmy5634
@jimmy5634 2 года назад
You will get more audible mids on the 13’s and therefore the high frequencies will tend to be diminished. The bass notes on the heavier gauge will tend to be louder, but less clear and with less separation from the mids. It really comes down to what you want to hear and how hard you want to have to work. I have gone to a hybrid set of 10-14-20-30-40-50 because I play amplified 90% of the time and I can EQ with my amp as I choose. It’s much easier to play a two or three hour gig with lighter strings. 👍
@andyvalentine8505
@andyvalentine8505 Год назад
I got .10 string and put it on to my guitar but I cant tune it to the standard tuning, any idea why???? I'm frustrated.......I'm new on guitar....Can you help me???
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician Год назад
What's stopping you? If you went down in gauge, it's possible that the truss rod may need an adjustment. Lower gauges put less tension on the neck and the strings may be too close / touching the fretboard.
@humptydumpty9205
@humptydumpty9205 3 года назад
I felt the 13 gauge bass strings had a little more sustain so if u are playing fingerstyle and have a branded premium guitar which costs about 200usd go for 13 gauge or 12 gauge it will be better. Don't buy heavy strings if u have a cheap OEM guitar it might break.
@RebornLeveller
@RebornLeveller Год назад
Interesting. To me the 10's sound better. The 13's seem a bit duller/more muffled somehow? I've generally found 10's to work best for me. Last week I tried some super light 9's and am not getting on well with them at all. They sound too metallic for my liking, and I seem to be too heavy handed for them - out of habit pressing down too hard, thus bending the strings out of tune. So I'll be going back to 10's.
@exchangAscribe
@exchangAscribe Год назад
isnt there heavier and thinner gauges than 10 and 13? that would make for a really good comparison!
@Ryan_Austin
@Ryan_Austin 3 года назад
I mostly play fingerstyle guitar and I have quite a light touch. That being said I still prefer heavier strings, I use 12 gauge. Something about them sounds much better to me; I experimented with lighter strings a few months ago and they sounded a bit too twangy for me. But the lighter strings were much easier to play on.
@terrybi
@terrybi 3 года назад
Interesting, some pieces I could hear a bit of difference from one to another and others, couldn't hear any significand difference, and others no difference at all. Myself, I prefer the .10's mostly because they are easier on the instrument. Nice playing BTW.
@theguy1824
@theguy1824 3 года назад
I have the same Epiphone DR 100 and Im planning to change strings same Phosphor Bronze. Should I stick 10 the 12s or should Gauge up or down?
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
You can change two gauges. Shouldn’t be a problem.
@nikolaikirkanovic
@nikolaikirkanovic 4 года назад
I wouldn't put the 10s on any expensive acoustic guitar though (either way 13s will kill inexperienced players' fingers)
@krisztianszemak385
@krisztianszemak385 2 года назад
did you have to adjust intonation when changing between gauges?
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 2 года назад
The trust rod needed some adjustment but not intonation at the saddle or anything.
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