Does the Bible Condone Slavery (and Other Moral Evils?) with Dr. H.C. Felder 

Blah blah blah blah blah, as an atheist myself, if I ever believe in any religion in the future (and that's probably almost impossible), it will be Islam, because it's the only religion that makes sense.

@@eatforfree5973 what makes you say that Islam is the only religion that makes sense?

​@@eatforfree5973 lol and?????? who was asking you??

@@candyluna2929 i literally LOLd at that comment too.

His a wonderful resource for white peoples haha

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The "truth" is that you magic book endorses slavery. Shame on you and all like you.

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This is chattel slavery. The best way to respond is whit honesty.. There are several pro chattel slavery verses in the bible.. The people who introduced the bible to your ancestors followed these verses. Be one of the unique apologist who actually tell the truth. Leviticus 25:44-46 44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

@@oldschool5 Yep... And you'll notice Alisa never goes over the actual scriptures in the Bible that condones and permits this disgusting form of slavery... She plays games with the word "servant" vs "slave" while obfuscating the specifics and claiming it's simply a form of indentured servitude.

@@Hieiman often times apologist are the biggest liars. They thrive off of playing stupid or being intellectually dishonest and these days that's the WORST thing you can do as an apologist

It's one of the many signs the Bible was simply written by men claiming to be speaking for God....

I encourage you to read a book I'm currently reading entitled "Is God A Moral Monster " by Paul Copan. It will answer many old testament questions on this topic and really puts things into perspective.

And you should be concerned about one person owning another person as there property. It is immoral and the Bible endorses it and provides instructions on how it should be carried out. The scriptures speak volumes for themselves on slavery.

He never answered the question... Much less was he even honest in his responses.

God the Father, His son Jesus and St. Paul never admitted that slavery is sinful and evil.

@@JamesRichardWileythus why the Holy Bible is not written to us but for us. I am unsure if you even viewed the video I won't push any further. I however discern from your videos on your account and your other replies pertaining to this video, I have a question for you. If a person who was, by simple definition, bad becomes a kinder and more loving person because they found and believe in the "fairy tales" of Christianity, would you be graceful and let them be or would you cause discourse?

Oh, ok. So being an ass and owning people as property and beating them was cool back then, but not now. Gotcha.

But it was, as you understand it, inspired by a single God. How does that make sense?

@@JamesRichardWiley God the father jesus and paul feel the same way about enslaving Black Folks as the slave masters who introduced Black Folks to god the father and paul

Seconded!

LOL Stop it

Everyone is a slave( servant) in the spiritual sense. We are either slaves(servant) to sin, which is our natural state, or we are slaves(servant) to Christ. The writers of the New Testament willingly declared their status as slaves of Christ. Paul opens his letter to the Romans by referring to himself as a “slave of Jesus Christ” (Romans 1:1) In Matthew 12:30 God plainly states " whoever is not with me is against me."

Yet your god condoned actual slavery.....

It's amazingly dishonest

@@Hieiman how so?

@@bereanshalom8676 Skip to 9:27 Question 1: Does the Bible condone slavery? Felder starts to give a head scratching tick before multiple lies and deflections. Felder: "That depends on what you mean by "slavery"... He doesn't actually answer the question... He deflects to God "put parameters around slavery and it always maintained the dignity of the person." This disingenuous, but it gets worse... He starts to outright lie. Rules for beating a slave... God in the Bible permitted slaveowners to beat their slaves as long as they didn't maim or kill them... Because the slave is their property. "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21) ^ Apologists will never actually mention this verse unless cornered and will usually still find a way to lie about it. Felder says a slave had to be free after six years... This is a lie.. This was only true of Israelite slaves and those who chose voluntary servitude... Those who weren't Israelites or didn't choose such as foreigners and women were owned as permanent property for life. "You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. (Leviticus 25:44-46) Also even the Israelite slaves could be manipulated to become a slave for life and he never mentions this on purpose... Manipulated how? Well here's how... You "give" them a wife. "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever." (Exodus 21:2-6) He said slaves were like an extension of the family... Another lie.... Slaves could literally be owned as property and passed down as inheritance. He then starts to talk about race here as a red herring... There wasn't explicit racism instead it was explicit tribalism... Less harsh rules for the Hebrews gods chosen people and more harsh slavery for foreigners. Does the Bible condone slavery? The answer is yes unequivocally... God in the Bible permitted and condoned slavery. They largely avoid the question disingenuously and either outright lie or obfuscate.... All while making false claims and never actually going over the specific verses in the Bible. mentioning slavery in detail... Not even once. There's at least 3 types of slavery in the Bible that's outlined in detail with specific rules.... And that's in regards to Israelite men, women, and foreigners.... And if you could guess... each one is worse than the other.... Hebrew men had it the least worst although still bad.... Women had it really bad.... And foreign slaves had it the worst by far. What most apologists will claim while usually never mentioning the actual verses is that the slavery in the Bible was essentially just voluntary indentured servitude and this isn't true.... Yes that's one type of slavery for Hebrews and the rules around it were still immoral. The Bible condones and permits slavery and never condemns it as sin or prohibits it ANYWHEREm This is morally indefensible and you wouldn't support this ever(I hope), but the God in the biblical story did.... Although it was most likely men claiming to speak for God.

Wow I have heard some bad arguments to explain why your God clearly endorsed slavery , but this has to be one of the worst yet. Could I just point out to you that presumably your omniscient God knew that men would continue to gather sticks on the sabath, yet he made laws forbidding it ( upon pain of death 🤮 ) yet he was completely unable or unwilling to forbid the beating and owning of people as property. Hmm 🤔 priorities I guess. Tell me did your God not know that man would continue to murder, steal, ect yet he made laws forbidding it, but not only did he not make laws forbidding slavery he specifically said _"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"_ 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🥳

You obviously haven't opened and read Exodus 21. It is clear that is condones slavery.

@@rudysega you mean like Exodus 21:20-21, which reads “20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.”? Does that read as anti-slavery to you?

@@kylekloostra5659 I think Rudy was making your case. :)

@@truncated7644 You’re correct. Swing and a miss on my part.

@@kylekloostra5659 You don't have to read into the scripture Kyle it speaks volumes for itself. Here's another one Kyle : You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Leviticus 25 :46 Maybe you can help me Kyle and show me in the Bible where it says that slavery is not acceptable.

Intellectually dishonest and damnear disrespectful

@@oldschool5 If you kill termites when they eat away your house are you a murderer? you have no idea what you’re talking about, can you trace your family tree all the way back to the apes? Does mom know about this? God of the Bible’s left evidence in every category that he is real! Manuscript evidence archaeology prophecy psychology statistics probability science DNA

@@jjphank idk what you talkin about. But a man being a victim to his vices is not nearly the same thing as a man who is born into slavery. All the termite ape talk ain't needed. Just basic common sense will do

@@oldschool5 it depends on how you define slavery! Slavery in the Bible was different G! What are you doing drinking all day??

@@jjphank How was it different. Please explain

Exodus 21. "You can beat a slave as long as you don't kill them". It's pretty clear. Don't say people rather be ignorant when it's clear. The god of the bible is an ass.

Have you ever read the Bible Wayne without trying to be to ignorant ?

@@Bugsy0333 Yes, have you?

The bible condones slavery.. How could you say otherwise

@@oldschool5 Did you not listen to what the man said? The New Testament opposes slavery. The Old Testament subverts it.

Do you know of any other worldview that either challenged or pushed for the end of slavery?

@@iceman4660 I don't think that worldviews challenge or push for anything. To challenge slavery it took (and still takes) people with empathy and compassion. And yes, these are christian virtues as well - but they are not exclusive to christianity. Atheists can and do value this as well. Humanism is a worldview that rejects slavery. One could even make the argument that marxism pushed for the end of a de facto slavery of workers in the industrial era.

Thank you for the kind invitation! I'm always a little bit skeptical when people complain about censorship as I think you can express enough on YT to talk about ideas and opinions. So a no for me on Telegram. Discord would be ok I think.

@@gmlr I understand. Thank you for your consideration.

@iceman: The Bible condones slavery. It’s unfortunate please deal with it.

_"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"_ Some perfect moral guide this Yaweh was 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Leviticus 25:44-46 44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

That word for punished (Naqum) means death penalty. The context from verses 12-32 is about capitol punishment for when one man kills another. Verse 18-19 are about direct assault from one man to the other. In the context of capitol punishment, verse 19 says, "If he gets up and walks around outside on his staff, then he who struck him shall go unpunished (death penalty)." It then gives the standard for reparations to be made from the offender. Verse 20-21 is about a slave owner abusing a slave. In the context of capitol punishment, 21 says, "If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance (death penalty) shall be taken". Verse 22-25 is about an assault against a pregnant woman where the baby is harmed. Like in the other passages, this is in the context of capitol punishment for the crime of manslaughter. Reparations are made for damage done, but limited to damage done, "life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." This is debated on the Hebrew of rather the harm caused is against the woman or the baby. Some translations say "she has a miscarriage" while others say "the baby is born prematurely." The Hebrew word here directly means to depart (from the womb), so the translation is debated. The common theme within these 8 verses is that if one person causes harm to another, they are only to be executed if the victim dies, but they will only pay reparations if the victim survives. Only with the slave do these 8 verses not include reparations for the slave who survives abuse. But reparations for abused slaves are covered in the next two verses. So in context, what this passage is saying is that you shall treat all people as equal. If a man kills a man, he is executed. If a man kills a woman, he is executed. If a man kills a freed man, he is executed. If a man kills a slave, he is executed. If a man kills an unborn baby, he is executed. But if the victim survives, he is only to pay him reparations for the harm caused. This is creating equality between men, women, slaves, freed, born, and unborn.

@@5BBassist4Christ Cool story, bro. Exodus 21:24 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye." EYE for EYE for free Isrealites BUT take out an EYE of a Slave and you just have to let him go. LOL

@@sanjeevgig8918 So you concede that "BUT THEY ARE NOT TO BE PUNISHED IF THE SLAVE RECOVERS AFTER A DAY OR TWO" doesn't mean there are no reparations for the abused slave. You do acknowledge that there are reparations made in this case. You did not ignorantly take this passage out of context.

@@5BBassist4Christ : Naquam does not mean the death penalty. That is a spin too far.

Kidnapping was not allowed. BUYING AND SELLING slaves was. Leviticus 25:44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.

@@NewCreationInChrist896 EVERY bible slavery apologist does the same dance: The Bible Slavery was nothing like American Slavery. LOL

@@NewCreationInChrist896 How do you think someone gets to be a slave? Do you think they volunteer for it? Most slaves were kidnapped at some point, whether they are subsequently sold at a slave market or not.

@@sanjeevgig8918 The trading of slaves was of those who had sold themselves to pay a debt, and it was limited for a maximum of six years. If you're not allowed to kidnap a man, sell a kidnapped man, or buy a kidnapped man (as posted from Exodus 21:16), then what is left for an option of buying a slave? Indentured servants are what's left. Notice that the allowance of Leviticus 25:44 does not identify rather the slave was volitional or not. Because Exodus 21:16 removes the non-volitional slavery, then all that's left in Leviticus 25:44 to be talking about is volitional.

@@5BBassist4Christ Standard Xtian LIE. Hebrew bondservants and Foreign SLAVES have different sections and different laws. You are a liar for Jesus. LOL

We are not talking about the things "men did" dear. We are talking about the things a suposed "perfect" omnibenevolent omniscient omnipotent God TOLD THEM TO DO !! If the god of biblical naratives actually exists he would be an immoral monster.

@@trumpbellend6717told them to do or regulate it out of necessity because prohibiting was not possible at the time?

@@whm_w8833 lol please tell me *WHY* it _"was not possible at that time"_ for an omnipotent omniscient omnibenevolent GOD??

@@trumpbellend6717 God can’t make people won’t listen and break it, especially it would be possible to function in their such as debt and etc. But He is able to walk with them to eventually get rid of slavery, as long humans choose to believe in that value.

@@whm_w8833 What kind of weak assed God is it that has to bend his "objective moral values" to accommodate the wishes of ancient human slave masters ? 🤣🤣🤣 You do realise that God made laws forbidding murder, even though he knew that they _"wouldn't listen and would break it"_ 🙄 he made laws forbidding the gathering of sticks on the sabbath ( or you die ) even though he knew they _"wouldn't listen"_ indeed he forbid theft, homosexuality, incest ( unless they were "Righteous" like Lot 😜 ) wearing clothing of mixed fabric,, eating shellfish and a million other things even though _"he knew they wouldn't listen"_ but forbidding the owning of people as "PROPERTY" was a step to far for your "God" ........ priorities I guess 😜

Nonsensical irrelevant word salad, why don't you address the actual subject of the video .

They did

And....? America still had a shitload of slaves and were one of the last holdouts regarding abolition. Just because other countries had more slaves doesn't justify America's slave trade.

@@peebay3515 Do you believe I'm trying to justify the slave trade just by correcting the gentleman in the video with where the majority of African slaves went?

@@robertdavis3036 Oh I see, sorry about that then!

@@peebay3515 No worries! God bless you!

I’m sure this guy has those sources, and we probably ought to go to his website or read his book to get his context.

@@soldierdrumchannel5710 😂😂😂

There's a reason they didn't go over the Bible verses.... It doesn't support their lies and the falsehoods they said here would be hard to hide.

@@Hieiman can you elaborate?

@@Ladybug099 Of course... There's at least 3 types of slavery in the Bible that's outlined in detail with specific rules.... And that's in regards to Israelite men, women, and foreigners.... And if you could guess each one is worse than the other.... Hebrew men had it the least worst although still bad.... Women had it really bad.... And foreign slaves had it the worst by far. What most apologists will claim while usually never mentioning the actual verses is that the slavery in the Bible was essentially just voluntary indentured servitude and this isn't true.... Yes that's one type of slavery for Hebrews and the rules around it were still immoral. The Bible condones and permits slavery and never condemns it as sin or prohibits it ANYWHERE. As for the rules for foreign slaves... "You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. (Leviticus 25:44-46) This is morally indefensible and you wouldn't support this ever(I hope), but the God in the biblical story did.... Although it was most likely men claiming to speak for God. Rules for beating a slave... God in the Bible permitted slaveowners to beat their slaves as long as they didn't maim or kill them... Because the slave is their property. "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21) ^ Another verse of the many regarding slavery that apologists usually won't touch or ignore altogether because it's indefensible as everything the Bible permits in regards to slavery.

Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, shall surely be put to death"

@@NewCreationInChrist896 Hi Lisa! I completely agree with you for sure. The Bible is completely against kidnapping. But kidnapping is not slavery I'm sure you would agree? I mean the two most common ways to become a slave during OT times was to be captured in war or to be born into it. And neither involved kidnapping. But both are Biblical. I'm just telling you what the Bible says about slavery. Trying to understand it myself here. Turns out, if you look into it, that this is why slave traders are condemned in the Bible. They sometimes kidnapped people if they didn't have the supply to meet the demand. And the anti kidnapping law was very common at the time the Pentateuch was written. Most nations had the same law. So this passage is not some sort of anti slavery passage. You're confusing American slavery with Biblical slavery. Something I'm accused of doing all the time, but in fact go out of my way not to do.

Condone is a pretty loaded word. Nowhere does the Bible say slavery is good. God delivered Israel out of slavery. Slavery was a way to pay off debt. Some slaves were prisoners of war. It was the application of the precepts of Christianity that brought down slavery.

Something that I wish was emphasized on is the fact that the slavery that the Bible talks about is different from how people define “slavery” today. In biblical days slavery was more like what we would call a indentured servant. Just like Joseph for example was sold into slavery, worked for free until God appointed him to greater purpose. That’s how it was in many African countries especially those who from a different tribe entering a new one or orphans. God is not for the slavery that abuses people and take advantage of them because they have nothing. God had laws in place for slaves in the Old Testament to protect those who we’re slaves. Good example is when God delivered the Hebrews out of Egypt because of the terrible mistreatment. Just like how the Europeans took slaves from Western Africa and mistreated them by putting them on slave ships to die and endure harsh treatment God is completely against those things because he see everyone as equal. There are many scriptures that support this. The term slave has changed a lot from biblical days.

@@nickbrasing8786 I guess you missed that whole parting of the RED SEA. God doesn't like slavery man does. Exodus 8:1 "And the LORD spoke to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Let My people go, that they may serve Me."

Yes one of the best depictions of Jesus is by John McGrath it's a very realistic depiction.

"44 And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have-from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. 45 Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property. 46 And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NKJV)

Read about Canaan being cursed into a life of slavery before he was even born

@@oldschool5 : You are a disturbed fellow.

@@clarkent61 You might be able to take shots at me but you not gone be able to refute the information that i am presenting.

@@oldschool5 : Why would I take shots at you? All I know of you is the information you suggest. I disagree with the slant you suggest, this does not make me your enemy.

But the Bible doesn't say Black people are Hamites that's just an outdated 19th century racist theory, Noah and his family were Mesopotamian so they would have looked like the people in that region of the world today.

@@thedude9941 Nathaniel Jeanson of Answers in Genesis would disagree with you

@@terranceramirez4816 I don't know who that is but I'm just going off what the Bible says and what we know about that region of the world.

Christianity is the white man's religion.. But that is not why its "false" Its just mythology mixed with foolish mixed with wisdom.

@@oldschool5 so you affirm 1 and 2 but have fallen into the error of 3). Now it will be interesting to see if you can prove your assertions.. doubt it

@@Repentee Tell me exactly what you want me to prove

I do find it interesting when people who have adopted a secular* view make claims regarding the falsity of particular views with no ethical (moral or epistemic) ground to stand on. Given this persons view it will be more interesting, that is if we grant said assertion that Christianity is myth (for argument sake) why we *_shouldnt_* believe things that are false? I've found plenty of secularists who make the assertion (we should believe true things) and most of them don't even try to justify said assertion given their *OWN* view. So heres the challenge, not only does my interlocutor bear the burden of proving that Christianity is false qua myth, but must also show more foundationally how said view is reasonable given his rejection of God. Even if it were true that Christianity is false given this persons view, assuming said view has overlap with other secular views i dont see how he or she could provide a meaningful response.

@@oldschool5 prove your assertions

Indeed. I find it hard to believe that every line of the Bible is inspired.

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@David B: You are a most deluded fellow. Did you read the rubbish you posted? What has having an addiction to alchol, porn etc, got to do with whether or not the Bible condones slavery?

Because slave traders sometimes kidnapped people. And that was not allowed. They're condemned for kidnapping, not slavery. Buying and selling of slaves is completely fine in the Bible. Hebrews did it all the time.

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." - Ephesians 6:5 (NIV) "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord." - Colossians 3:22 (NIV) "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh." - 1st Peter 2:18 (NIV) Slave trading may be condemned in select places, but apparently once someone is traded they need to embrace the fact that they are someone else's literal property: the Bible tells me so

@@4a8p9x I agree

@@nickbrasing8786 Dr. Felder explains this at 9:15 The way we think of slavery is not the same way it was practiced a thousand years ago.

@@Rabbit_Person And I answered that in detail in my comment below. Dr. Felder did not explain this at all it turns out. He talked about everything EXCEPT this question. I wish it weren't true either, but it is.

Yes, I see what you are saying. Humanity made it about ethnicity, God did not intend it that way. Eph 6:9 Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him. Paul in Galatians assures these believers that, in Christ, they have been fully united with everyone else who is in Christ. There are no lesser Christians in the family of God. Our earthly identifiers create no value distinction between us in our Father's eyes. Jews do not carry a higher rank than Greeks (non-Jews). Free people hold no greater honor than slaves. Men are not superior to women. No race is a "master race," nor any ethnicity inferior. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Most scholars say Paul didn't actually write either of those books, however that doesn't really change the fact that they say slavery is acceptable. There are a lot of theories I've heard from certain scholars on Mythvision Podcast that have some weird ideas about all these verses concerning slavery.

Check out the depiction of Jesus by John McGrath, it gives a good idea of what Jesus might have looked like. I don't really take any artist depictions of ancient people too seriously this one I like.

Ephesians Verse 5 through 8 focused on the spiritual obligations of servants. In this verse, the masters of these servants are specifically addressed. Interestingly, they are given the exact same charge. Namely, they are supposed to be doing the will of God, for the good of others, from a pure and willing heart (Ephesians 6:6). Masters may be in charge, but they are also to lead others according to God's ways. we wrestle against spiritual wickedness.... There really is God and his angels, and s atan and his fallen ones. The enemy of our souls is working overtime to get people to twist and pick God's wo God died for us...there is no higher love than to lay down your life for someone. He is all love, compassion, mercy, but also just. Please read the book of John and new testament sincerely (ask the real God who created all to help you understand and give insights-he really does if we are sincere and he knows every thought we have and intentions). Then go back and study this" picked out one of pr two verses they try to use to make God sound like an evil monster from God's perspective. Nothing but tricks from the devil.

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Maybe the slave did not want dignity persay. Maybe the slave just did not want to be a slave… Have you ever thought about that?

ALL slavery is wrong period. It doesn’t matter what “kind” it is.

I would argue slaves in verse 22 is not the right word, the KJV translates it as servants not slaves…