Does the Brave Browser Really Beat Fingerprinting? Let's Test!

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Brave Browser was revised in 2020 and received a slew of features related to better defense against browser fingerprinting. Or at least that's the claim. In this video we put this to a test, by actually attempting to fingerprint a Brave Browser session in different circumstances while we also theorize some possible ways to evade the defense.
In the end we will figure out exactly what Brave does differently from other browsers and we will see if it lives up to the hype. Is it unbeatable by a browser fingerprint tracker? Or is it flawed? Find out the results of the actual test.
We also compare it to Chrome and Firefox using default settings on those browsers.
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@FreemonSandlewould 3 года назад

Best thing about Brave? You see no ads on RU-vid. You see no google ads on 3rd party websites. Starve the beast.

@theevilone1646 3 года назад

I love it!

@msdrakegx 3 года назад

That's reason enough to pick it up right there

@oc3144 3 года назад

Dude now way, really??

@theevilone1646 3 года назад

@@oc3144 yes sir

@theevilone1646 3 года назад

@@oc3144 I'd advise combining Duckduck go and brave to have a more enjoyable experience plus privacy from google

@palanthis 3 года назад

18:38 if you just want the quick and dirty.

@69Snatcher 3 года назад

Thanks bro

@jchoneandonly 3 года назад

Thanks for the tldr

@musicsubicandcebu1774 3 года назад

thanks

@zerosypher0114 3 года назад

Thx

@missjennemeg1 3 года назад

Thank you. Thank you so much!

@davidwebb091370 3 года назад

thanks, Rob, for all you do! you are outstanding!

@guytero8812 3 года назад

Rob, the more of your videos I watch, the more impressed I am. And you're an accomplished jazz pianist on top of it all. Keep it up. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@antux5183 3 года назад

Thank you Rob for the very detailed information! Good to know and important for browser isolation!

@AApron 3 года назад

Subtle instrumental jazz music in background is a nice touch to this presentation. Thanks for sharing!

@freedomforever1962 3 года назад

Yes. 😎 Good music choice 💪🏼🌺🍃👍🏼

@bakarenibsheut12 3 года назад

Thank you so much for your detailed analysis! I never even considered that the way Brave blocks access to things might itself be a signature of its usage. This was really interesting and thought-provoking.

@theimperialowl1011 3 года назад

Very interesting. I hope Brave sees this and takes the feedback to improve their browser.

@alligoodw 3 года назад

Not only was this video educational and interesting, but it made me rethink browser usage and its importance. This video is well done.

@ukaszokapa6782 Год назад

You my friend are so knowledgeable and present so flawlessly. You're many people's hero! Thank you for your knowledge!

@smirthmeinfok3743 3 года назад

Now this is a quality content! Keep it up yo🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

@Vintage_USA_Tech 3 года назад

Sir that is the best and most informative video I have seen as to how fingerprinting is done and a nice look as to what is going on under the hood. I will refear every one I know to this video the explain this. Thanks for your fine work.

@Jianju69 2 года назад

Rob, you're one of the best channels on RU-vid. Really appreciate what you do, my man.

@paulolukeny5736 3 года назад

I love your approach on these topics - There is no fearmongering by telling us that everyone and everything is bad and that basically you should trust nothing OR ELSE. At the same time, you're not sugarcoating things, giving an approach/browser/technique that works and solves everything. You're being real, you explore the good, the bad and the extras and leave us up to make the decision, for that, I subbed - calm, collected and realistic is the way to go! Please keep making them good vids :D (Also, this is not my first vid but i've been loving them all)

@robbraxmantech 3 года назад

Thanks I think you're on target with what I'm trying to accomplish.

@ALImohammed-jd1xe 3 года назад

I have done the test I got the same results for Brave and Firefox(privacy badger installed). Thank you for this video.

@joshuaisrael7295 3 года назад

Rob, you are a Blessing. You are doing a great service to humanity. Thank you for your big heart and sacrifice. God Bless you.

@harmonicresonanceproject 3 года назад

Thanks! I got a lot out of this. Been a Brave user since the start. Subbed.

@mjsimons9757 3 года назад

Same with me. Been there on Brave from the beginning. It keeps getting better and better.

@hepgeoff 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this info. I listened to the very end and subscribed. I'm definitely going to use browser isolation, and will use Brave as one of the browsers.

@ljscoaching6579 3 года назад

Thank you Rob! I would love you to teach us in a webinar/class the safest ways, across all the issues for security and privacy. I am watching your videos and subscribe to your VPN, but there is so much to learn!

@gamingcollection270 3 года назад

Thank you for this video. I will be using Brave more and more. And will look for more browsers to actually isolate my behavior into different browsers. Thx again, I'm learning so much from you.

@fuqupal 3 года назад

Did you find any?

@gamingcollection270 3 года назад

@@fuqupal Yes, Firefox and Vivaldi. Tor browser as well.

@theroc1000 3 года назад

The most scientific and deep explanation I see. Thank you sir. I subscrive to your channel Immediately.

@debsattam1 Год назад

omg what a video quality such great and inadept review of brave and fingerprint tracking you are really doing a great work i just became a fan of you and subscribed this is exactly what i wanted to know .

@fuzz2978 3 года назад

Love your information Rob keep up the good work.you make it easy to learn whats going on when it comes to my electronics.be safe.

@temzac1135 2 года назад

Excellent & Informative video Rob!

@slider4dark 3 года назад

I love watching your videos.Keep up with great work.

@OldePup 3 года назад

Thank you sir. You have earned my subscription and I hope soon to be able to be a patron.

@koszegimatyas 3 года назад

Awesome content! I have been using Brave for more than a year combined with different privacy stuff as well. I am also an official creator. Too bad that I cannot have any of the payments, since I live in Japan. But I also like their work and yours as well. Subbed.

@TwstedTV 3 года назад

The only way these days to protect yourself from tracking on the internet is to just pack up the computer and put it in the closet.

@Assault_Butter_Knife 3 года назад

I'd say disconnecting from the internet is good enough. That's what one of my friends did- had a pc he used for internet, which he did with dummy accounts, and then an old ThinkPad where he actually stored all of his documents and stuff, which was disconnected from the net and had a mod for manual off-switch

@rstone7727 3 года назад

It will mysteriously be back on your desk the next day...

@gosth81 3 года назад

Jajajaja

@a-terrible-fate532 3 года назад

@@rstone7727 To true XD As an Internet addict, there is no way I could just get rid of any of my computing devices 🤮

@chrisjenkins9978 3 года назад

😂🤣😂

@ircrp2291 3 года назад

Hey @Rob, thanks for the great content. I really like your idea of the browser isolation. Can we perhaps achieve isolations of the browser within Brave itself ? Brave seems to have a built-in feature which allows you to create multiple Profiles, I would hope that within different profiles in Brave i would be isolated in terms of cookies and other data being stored. With that I could create one Brave brave profile for Facebook, then an additional one for Google and leave the default one for 'normal' browsing

@user-sr7fo5fe6x 3 года назад

I appreciate your work. Very interesting. Very informative. Subbed. Liked. Please keep it up. We need people like you willing to share your knowledge.

@robbraxmantech 3 года назад

Much appreciated!

@parmijo 3 года назад

I learn more about internet security and privacy on Rob's channel than any other. Should be a million+ views. Very informative though a bit scary.

@deanxxi 3 года назад

Saw this video, today, and subscribed. I imagine it's going to take me some time to see what all you offer. Is there a recommended first product of your that you'd recommend to use with Brace or other chrome-based browser for privacy?

@SumedhaManabaranaKandy Год назад

Your content is very precise. Brilliant!

@MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD 3 года назад

Great Video Rob Brother!👍🏼🙏🏼 Now that's what I'm talking about! Crystal Clear, Coherent and concise with the proof of concept! What about some claims of Cryptomining etc?🤔

@treffermedia9202 2 года назад

awesome work" love the way you explain

@JassiJo 3 года назад

This was very interesting. Thank you.

@TheMetalheadHomestead 3 года назад

Brave may be among the best for security, but besides that it's a legitimately great browser. The layout, ease of use, lack of bugs and crashes; I really think it'd be great choice even for non-privacy minded people. Great video btw. I always thought there had to be a some way to identify system (especially phones), but actually hadn't heard of browser fingerprinting.

@40sUphillBothWays 3 года назад

Brave has no sync -- at least no reliable sync. Not even the sync chain functions. It does not allow sharing. These are circumvented through extensions. This defeats privacy, and besides, extension accolades are owed to their creators, and not Brave. You can download about and browser, and if left in its vanilla state, will be crashless save developer end update -- maybe. This vanilla state is really the only real configuration for any method based, quantifiable data/results. But who wants vanilla?. Customization is the culprit. The availability of extensions and the ease of their submission to the public is the fault of the browser. Brave and all the others allow extensions because it's a massive scapegoaat reserve.

@KeithMcKenzie 3 года назад

@@40sUphillBothWays That may be true but ultimately each person has to take responsibility for their actions and that includes what extensions one uses, what sites to visit, what to click on and not. Even more broadly their responsibility is to understand the threats to them, and by extension also to others if they allow their systems or accounts to be compromised.

@AndroidFerret 3 года назад

@@40sUphillBothWays what you mean with no sharing ?

@40sUphillBothWays 3 года назад

@@AndroidFerret You are correct. I was so use to right-clicking in the browser in Chrome...but I swear it's recent, but do not recall a Flag? I only use Brave Nightly. No other browsers. Thanks for correcting me (I can stomach correction on the web--no where else:).

@debeeriz 3 года назад

some sites wont let me in if l use an adblocker, brave lets me in with no adds, thats all l care about

@sweatpantsboomhauser3217 3 года назад

Hey Rob. I just came across your channel about a week ago and love it. Great job. I'm currently in the middle of choosing Brave vs Vivaldi. I love Brave's speed, etc., but Vivaldi's panels, notes, and bookmarks feature (along with other customizations) is making me want to lean towards Vivaldi. Would you be able to make a review video about the Vivaldi browser at some point? Thanks for all your info!

@dc174 2 года назад

@‌‍downtownswifty 😂

@mcm4981 3 года назад

Thanks for your vids... very eye opening. All of them.

@alejandrocolunga3209 3 года назад

Thank you! For your hardwork! Gold info!

@normivers8982 3 года назад

I just watched this on brave its my main browser. I have chrome too , that i need when i need gps directions to get to a new or unknown premises. Good work i share your yt videos often.

@CraftyOldGit 3 года назад

Very useful, thanks. I switched to Brave half way through watching this. Browser isolation is an interesting idea -- the only Google service I use is RU-vid which I could use Chrome for. I also use the MPVS Hosts file which blocks a lot of trackers and breaks a few sites.

@pnamajck 3 года назад

thanks for lookin' out for us, *_braxman_* … regards.

@robbraxmantech 3 года назад

Any time!

@edmlh150 3 года назад

I subscribed! This is great content. We need more people pushing anonymity setups and guides.

@nopoliticalparties 3 года назад

Great Video Mr. Braxman.

@diceblue6817 3 года назад

How many people claim in some way or another to be a "privacy, online, security" researcher / commenter / expert? Rob is the ONLY person talking about these things and doing this work. Frauds, all of them!

@der0keks 3 года назад

lol You haven't seen "theHatedOne" then.

@edwardhedge6454 3 года назад

@@der0keks or Techlore

@Mikein203 3 года назад

Both of the RU-vid Creator that are listed above by pervious comments are excellent choices for user's to follow. Both are very informative and useful tips for the using the Internet or products safety.

@diceblue6817 3 года назад

@@edwardhedge6454 show me videos from either of these that expose what apple is doing with opening up APIs on iOS but keeping the same UI prompts so users were silently moved from choosing 1 image to now having apps have full, complete, permanent and instant access to every single photo and video on their device I'll wait

@diceblue6817 3 года назад

@Roger De Bris apple changes their photo api from OS level (you choose the photo) to app level (all apps see all your photos all the time and can do whatever they like and siphon them to the cloud) 0 people mentioned it ios allowed apps to spy on you via camera - 0 people mentioned it - even now with the leaks about clipboard sniffing and cameras being open NOBODY talks about it

@socaljusticewarrior558 3 года назад

This is an awesome channel. Subscribed

@johnheikkinen3916 3 года назад

Was wondering if you you could do a video on Thunderbird on how to use and set up the setting.love the brave video. Thanks for all your helpful videos.Deeply appreciated.

@d74g0n 3 года назад

You are a legend. ha. glad I stumbled into this. Those who measure, walk together.

@444haluk 3 года назад

Love this guy!

@xichen8358 3 года назад

Hey Rob...great work as always. I just noticed that Hunchly 2.0 added an extension without my permission (I've used that program on Chrome). At the top right corner of the Brave browser there was a conspicuous error message (didn't know what it was, clicked on it and it stated that Hunchly was added or trying to add and extension). That error message had an option to delete Hunchly which I immediately did.

@user-qo9fd3qt7x 3 года назад

Thank you for the info great video

@bossman4702 3 года назад

Still waiting for the background music at the very start and I been to your site and tried it brilliant

@tall14dude 3 года назад

I use multiple browser user profiles. I assume this would be similar to browser isolation, but going to have to test this with your script. Thanks for the info!

@got2kittys 3 года назад

I have been watching your videos. Great stuff, and you have given me hope against the digital panopticon. Would you consider a review of Epic browser, and it's features? Thank you for your great work.

@AmazingPhilippines1 3 года назад

Thanks Rob. I have switched from firefox to Vivaldi and starting to play with Brave also.

@Theineluctable_SOME_CANT 3 года назад

I subbed you, Rob... GREAT CHANNEL!

@FOWTroudt 3 года назад

Hi Rob, I had a question; do you still post videos on Library (lbry)? Thanks!

@connect-r 3 года назад

Is the /geo code on GitHub?

@Mauser1965 3 года назад

They should be teaching users that they should be using a different browser for different tasks (as mentioned). Yet one can sandbox by booting from a micro usb drive and use a usb wifi dongle(s). Though I do draw the line on wardriving, but I've made cantenna's when at range. I'll just merely state that I've been doing a few things for over ten years as a hobby. Just as many others who've been playing with distro's from DistroWatch, while my first was Slack back in '98 for amusement as FreeBSD now and then. Compiling kernels and such. But these days I don't concern myself with much of this as I don't do anything nefarious, or ever had. It's just good to be aware of things. I'll probably sub' as I'll be checking out your other content coverage. Well done as your lighting, audio and no annoying background music makes this great. Cheers :)

@rohinjose1709 3 года назад

How effective would it be if I combine brave with adguard or pihole? Also, how different would it be from Firefox with containers and other privacy extensions?

@happypotential 2 года назад

Thank you very much, Rob! ☺️🌞🤗

@micgent 3 года назад

Fascinating, subscribed and tracked

@fets69 3 года назад

hello again ..thank you for your videos, they are great....when checking on brave the fingerprint always start with brax, why? I didn't touch any settings

@conscienciapositiva8706 3 года назад

Thanks Brax. What was the search engine you used for this test?

@Slon104 3 года назад

really good video. Tanks for Information ;)

@BRUHItsABunny 3 года назад

Brave allows for "profile" switching, which allows for isolating cookies to their "profile" I will probably have to test it with your site Edit: tested it, using different brave profiles isolates cookies within their respective profiles, pretty much achieving browser isolation without multiple browsers overall this was an amazing video, one of the very few videos around privacy that I can listen to and not instantly find mistakes in

@CrucesNomad1 3 года назад

This is the smartest computer guy I have ever seen. I wonder how many list you get put on for going grey or dark?

@davidmoran4471 3 года назад

There are other smart cybersecurity engineering folks, they just don't talk to us regular people.

@ps3master72 3 года назад

@@davidmoran4471 Yeah, they talk at DEFCON, and there are many talks available on youtube

@nejm612 3 года назад

@@ps3master72 there are folks unknown to the public

@coolcha 3 года назад

Great video. Could you review Firefox with Firefox Multi-Account Containers? It is similar to your approach of running certain websites within their own browser. Firefox containers sort of containerizes websites as you define them.

@ovskihouse5278 Год назад

I love your tutorial 😊

@mediocrebanters 3 года назад

Rob, have you tested it under a VBox / Emulation? Is the user data persistence still prevalent?

@limadeltazulu 3 года назад

I opened this page in the 'tor' browser, the screen resolution data was wrong and did not detect the graphics card.

@SilverM1y 3 года назад

You're a Brave man, Rob ...

@henkcornelisse-cf1sq Год назад

Hi Rob, this is a very much enlightening video, thank you for that. Could you do this back to back comparing Brave with Librewolf as both are being boasted a lot as being the best and most usable secure browsers?

@diegognoatto590 3 года назад

very interesting , thanks . ps: what about "tor tab" option on brave , how safer is it compared to anonimous tabs?

@Aedaeum 3 года назад

It uses the TOR network which completely separates you from your public network, but it's also very slow, since it's sending your traffic around the world in order to protect your privacy. Unless you're excessively paranoid about the government (or doing some real shady shit), it's generally not necessary.

@myfrogger 3 года назад

Seems so cool but if I click “show details” under the device signature nothing happens/nothing is displayed. Is the website broken or are my privacy settings sufficient?

@WanderingAroundAZ 3 года назад

same here

@MJ-ge6jz 3 года назад

I purchased your de-googled phone. It's real nice. Thx!

@tinytoons2517 3 года назад

Yes, thank you Brave browser . . please don't lose target your sight and help with our freedoms . . thank you Mr Braxman for your genuine concern . .

@kevinwiens4804 2 года назад

Thank you so much! ROB...

@murrrr8288 3 года назад

Great video!

@bobd8539 2 года назад

Thanks Rob

@stevemotoq1411 3 года назад

Great now a real review zthanks6

@whoami9586 3 года назад

Hloo sirr....i love all the videos u make and the amount of knowledge i gain with these videos u can't imagine ...thnku sir ....just a req can u do this same test in tor browser...plzz

@RF-js9yj 3 года назад

Any idea if Dissenter has similar features? It might make a good second browser for your mutli browser approach Rob

@teemuvesala9575 3 года назад

Nah its garbage, tried it. Its based on very old version of Brave. You should not run outdated browsers. Dissenter is based on Chromium version 80, while Brave is on version 88 like Chrome.

@justintimber5058 3 года назад

I just tested my browser using your webpage. Very interesting is, a reload or a new generates a different fingerprint. No details are shown when I tap "Show details". And this is not the Brave Browser. It is IceCat mobile in combination with the DNSFilter on my Android device. DNSFilter blocks all traffic to Googles firebase, facebook and mozilla services. For me this is a good way to protect your privacy a little better. I would recommend DNSFilter to supress any advertisment within Android Google Services. With DNSFilter you can configure using wildcard for domain names. I.e. *.**fb.com** or *.facebook.* works perfect.

@user-it4dq9dj9q 3 года назад

same thing happens for me with bromite, a refresh, a new tab, and exit/reopen all have new fingerprints. when i tap show details, nothing shows up. also using blokada

@DerekSmit 3 года назад

Also with Firefox, every reload gives a new fingerprint

@JoshuaRichards2010 3 года назад

Do you like the uMatrix plugin? A bit annoying to get sites working but once set up, sites run with minimum to function. I use that and uBlock Origin (same author).

@RaiseYourVibes333 3 года назад

TY Rob! Unfortunately YT places a third party cookies on ur de ice permanately that no app will delete. If u DO delete them them YT will force u to sign in as their pop up Captcha doesn’t work and when u click “see more” or whatever the ONLY other option to view ANY video is to sign into YT! They’re soo not Cool which is why I’d like to watch ur vids elsewhere!! Brave also won’t allow u to give feedback u less u sign in amd they don’t have an option for desktop mode u less u download the chrome browser except only on a desktop which refutes the whole purpose of even setting ur options to desktop if u r using a mobile device. Perhaps these mobile devices are not Allowing them to have that option ? But how would Apple and google control their own private app anyway? Can u do an updated vid of the Brave app or is there a newer and better one out there? You’re a breath of fresh air! It’s been a year since you uploaded this and I would like To start watching vids on ur website this l library” website u mentioned . Can u post the link to whatever this is? TY!

@jakestrouse12 3 года назад

So I noticed in the fingerprint your website records, it looks for if the browser is a webdriver. By webdriver, does that mean a automated browser like Selenium? Because I have looked around on stackoverflow a bit, and from what I have gathered people say you can’t really detect if a browser is automated.

@markathompson 3 года назад

great video thank you ...

@andersbrathen 3 года назад

Great and insightful video. Do you have any thoughts relating to Safari, and their latest implementation of anti-tracking technology. It's causes lots of issues for the entire ad-business , so it would be interesting to hear your view on that.

@ShaG-gb8du 7 месяцев назад

safari is apple product so he spy on you and apple will sell it to advertiser

@ianmagee6651 3 года назад

How useful are Firefox containers for privacy-related isolation? I realize they don't block browser fingerprinting, but what are their uses in this context?

@DpKris 3 года назад

Please do a test with hardened firefox, i am curious.

@WanderingAroundAZ 3 года назад

It didn't show a fingerprint on my hardened Firefox. Then again, most sites don't work properly with a hardened Firefox, so...

@mommaboiz6818 3 года назад

I noticed when you closed incognito in brave and restarted it at 12:11, it showed the same fingerprint hash as the previous session. Maybe we need to close the whole browser for it to reset?

@TheJonathanMMM 3 года назад

Hey, would be glad if you try the nightly build of Brave. As far as I know Brave is right now testing a complete a new fingerprint avoidance technic.

@henrymach 3 года назад

Can you compare it with the Ghostery add-on?

@DenisX4C 3 года назад

Could you also test the Epic private browser?

@lewis9046 3 года назад

Its a bad choice, its owned by yahoo.

@DamjanDimitrioski 3 года назад

Does the Firefox nightly's Enhance protection makes a difference when generating or ability to save the track hash in a cookie?

@Mikein203 3 года назад

Excellent question... I hope it gets answered by someone. Otherwise I'll go on Twitter and try and get us an answer.

@justintimber5058 3 года назад

I have used firefox for a long time, but if you analyze the traffic you will see that firefox doesn't care about your privacy. I switched to IceCat, this makes a big difference. What I can recommend to use under Windows / Linux OS: DNSCrypt. Your provider could not longer analyze where you go.

@jonteeyes 3 года назад

I use Firefox nightly on my phone with some plugins like decentreleyes, ublock origin and privacy badger. The fingerprinting is blocked and when i restart the browser the cookie is cleared. I'm currently using strict settings. In a new install of the latest firefox mobile without any changes fingerprinting is not blocked but cookies cleared or restart

@James-lo2oy 3 года назад

Can I setup for both fingerprint and user agent. coz firefox do not support user agent setup when fingerprint is ON

@hahnfelt 3 года назад

I’m using safari in macOS 11 and the brax random fingerprint is shown, changing with every refresh or tab. No details appear when option selected. No ip or Wi-Fi location. Is it really that good?

@freeeflyer 3 года назад

I have a plugin called "ublock origin", it gives a "brax" fingerprint that changes at every refesh.. and the "show details" button does not work on your site.