F1Jones replied: ""Dove" is a bird. They dived into this useless video." -you deleted your comment but I still read it lol Dove isn't wrong, dived can also be used but you should google it before you correct me
Exactly! The tesla cybertruck came out recently but they habe yet yo mention a single worf about offroad! In the meantime Toyota anounced a smaller hilux in thailand and it has already been in all kinds of mods
Dan your content is great, I've followed it across a few different platforms and it's always a great look into the engineering of these vehicles. Keep at it please!
I had a chance to take my '19 G63 with stock 21" wheels and street tires to the OHV park in Gorman. The three lockers definitely came in handy on some sections such as the frame twister where only two wheels met the surface on some portions. The IFS really limits the travel in the front, but well worth it for the improved ride quality from the previous generation. Overall the car is a compromise any way you look at it - suspension is not ideal for luxury cruising but also not perfect for off roading. Mercedes went through a good deal of effort to preserve its off-road performance, though. They kept the three lockers, improved the breakover, approach and departure angles, increased the ground clearance, increased the water fording depth, and reduced the weight. After they did all that, they added huge six-piston calipers on the front (AMG model), so nothing less than a 20" wheel will clear it, limiting tire setups for off-road. And man, scratching those side pipes is not cool. Still, nothing quite looks like it on or off-road, and even though it doesn't flex as much as a Land Cruiser on the incline, it sure makes up for it by flexing at the valet stand and mall parking lot. Hey, some of us care about that too.
Always appreciate these videos. Zero chance I'll ever own one but its very cool to see a G Wagon up on the ramp. Definitely need to do a video on a Wrangler Rubicon to round out the rankings! Also very excited about the new Land Cruiser (Prado but we can't call it that in the US) and see if it can get up to those lofty LC200/300 numbers or if its closer to the 4Runner.
Coming from the world of classic Mercedes, this may be the only modern Mercedes worth buying. It’s durable and fulfills its purpose without a lot of compromise
About where I expected the flex to live. G's don't seem to flex worth a darn. Just a note that I am so happy that you do this work and have the consistency that you do. Thanks Dan.
The reality is that in stock form, the current G is the most capable of the off-roaders that he has tested, and perhaps any stock car. I’ve seen that thing go head to head with Wranglers that have lockers and better approach/break over angles, yet the G handled the obstacles much easier (i.e. on first attempts, less corrections, less slip). No idea why that is. Before witnessing that, I would have been convinced that the Wranglers would destroy that heavy thing.
@@AlexMousavi hey, just find me any video on RU-vid where the new G loses a comparison. There are thousands of them out there. I was a hater like you at one point. I was humbled.
@@AlexMousavi the channel Diariomotor does an in depth head to head test against a Rubicon. You tell me which was superior. That is on stock all-seasons, not all-terrains. The Jeep has all-terrains. AND we’re not even talking about the G 4x4 squared, which has portal axles and 40+ inch tires. So yes, I stand by my statement, the new G class is the most capable off-roader in stock form.
Great videos Dan.... just wondering where can i read about the suspension testing of the defender and the lx600... I follow a lot of you reviews I'am an owner of a 2022 land cruiser prado Vx here in panama.... its a mechanical twin of the 4runner with the kdss except it has a 2.8 liter diesel engineee
Idk about the 600 but in the original 200 series test in 2017 the lx and lc were different by 2 points. Pretty awesome, think it was like 645 for the lx and 647 for the lc
Dan, that is not considered a 5 link rear suspension, you dont include the track bar. Maybe your thinking of most modern Mercedes and other higher end cars with independent rear suspensions which are defined as 5 link, where they have 5 individual links per side.
Have you ever done the solid axle G wagon? Just curious. Those radius arms give it great beef but they're not very flexible. I've found the droop to be lacking. thanks!
The best G-wagen is the Squared model with the portal axles that give it around 18 inches of ground clearance. The G550 does not really offer extreme ground clearance....
Great video Dan! I love the suspension geekery! RTI is a little disappointing. But I still want one. Maybe after my 1998 Land Cruiser (triple locked with 349k miles at the moment) dies then I can swoop one of these puppies? Most of these in LA are gently used at the mall with very few miles, so even when they are 10 years old, they are in great shape. Thank you for the video.
I built a 2016 G63 with a lift and 35” tires. It was ok off road but articulation and weight were major limiting factors. My Wrangler Rubicons have been far superior off road.
I guess hes not had much mechanical experience, I couldn't see much about that suspension that was particularly unique compared to any other manufacturer running IFS on an off road vehicle🤷🏻♂️
I have offset steel rims and the factory 16 aluminum. I don't need 15" rotors to stop. I'll take my Land Cruiser over that Merc any day and save money@@alararkadas92111
My dad was a subscriber to Car and Driver when it was called Sportscar Illustrated. I still have those issues and was a subscriber myself for 40 years. I'm not anymore because of this bullshit. Truck magazines never did the honor of analyzing cars. Now CandD barely does anymore either. Who will? Don't know but time for another name change, guys.
