I’m pretty sure that when you lifted the record up after using the Milty, that caused a new static charge, hence the high numbers. We’ll never know since you didn’t ever do the test without lifting up the record again. I’d like to see a test where: 1. Put the record on the turntable then take a reading. 2. Use the Milty then take a reading. 3. Then, play the entire side then take a reading. I’ll probably buy the meter and try this myself. Thanks for making the video.
@@timsmith1426 After grounding myself for the lighter test, I can say that it's the action of taking the record off the turntable and not my body that re-introduces the static. But it was good to find out for sure.
I watched this whole video and thought, "surely he's going to measure on the turntable, without touching it?" That's just common sense, but... nope. This video is a bit embarrassing....
I bought one of these in the mid 1970s, I used a method very similar to your 4 squeeze one and it seemed to work quite well. Owing to a house move I haven't used it for some time, but it was still working perfectly when around 30 years old!
Thank you for putting this experiment together and sharing it with us. You need to try the 4 pulls at 8 inches above the center of the spindle while the record is on the turntable and measure it while still on the platter. Every time you place a record flat on a surface and decouple it by removing it you will generate a potential change in charge. This will also vary depending on what type of platter and mat material you are using. I think the important thing here is to see the before and after while the record is placed on the platter because the balance of static charge is only important while you are playing the record and not handling it. You want it to be charge neutral while on the platter before you drop the stylus into the grove. Try this method during your next experiment and see how it goes.
The four pull method was a popular method I found and I followed it as written. You're probably right that it'll work better on the table and I'll look in to that for the follow up, but I didn't want to deviate from the method as written. Of course I didn't wear a damn grounding strap so what do I know? lol
As soon as you touched the record you recharged the static with your body and clothes. Best to do it in hand before playing and again in hand before putting away. Cheers
Perhaps we all need to have audiophile wrist worn earthing straps like people use when working on circuit boards. Personally I can't see how the electrostatic charge varies across the surface of a record. I thought charge distributes itself equally over a surface, otherwise there is a potential difference.
Dear Vinyl Attack! - Since watching your video, I've been pointing the Milty Zerostat 8" from the center of the record, and pulling the trigger 4 times. The results have been demonstrable. Thank you very much!
I always want to keep the paper sleeve, so I just put the whole record on it’s edge, and slowly roll it out while pushing a little bit down on the top of the sleeve (so it bends away from the record). Then I put it in a mofi sleeve :)
For a modest fee I can teach you the Ancient Secret to how you pull a record out of a sleeve - without scratching it! Just imagine all the money you save on sleeves! Seriously though, ripping apart the sleeve is perhaps the most silly thing I've seen a vinyl enthusiast do lately.
Excellent video Very methodical This device is used to reduce statics when weighing mg amounts of powder in a Chem lab and I have personal experience that it works in stabilizing the tray on the micro balance
responding to your request .I am a cmos electronics engineer , scientist and hi-fi addict- we used the original zerostat back in the early 1970's , you are doing the tests all wrong !!! take the record out of its sleeve, put it on the platter ( record turntable) take a meter reading. it will be low because some of the staric will be discharged to the platter. then use the zerostat at approx 6 inches from the record while it is spinning. give it one or two slow squeezes of the trigger. then take the meter readings. do not pick the record up as all you are only adding more static from surrounding air and yourself . the readings should now be 0.8 or lower.
That’s really clever, the ripping of the sleeve. That never occurred to me in the last 50 years, but from here on out, I’ll be a ripper too! Subbed, thanks!
One observation, you don’t seem to have accounted for your body picking up static through your shoes and chair. I wonder if you can reliably check if this is a problem by measuring yourself between tests to see if your static charge varies during testing. If a problem then you could place a rubber mat under your chair and shoes and then you touch a ground to Earth eg by touching a computer with metal chassis, then you should be static free. Touching to ground before each test will avoid any static contamination from the records being tested.
I may be able to do something like this, however, I did factor in that I was in the same position the whole time. I never got up or really moved too much. I'll certainly take it under advisement though as I'm sure I'll need to revisit this test. I'd like to get it as accurate as possible. Plus, it's just kinda fun, lol.
Great information. I appreciate your efforts in helping to inform us on static and ridding it. It's a problem that plagues many of us that spin vinyl. I look forward to the follow-up. Very useful.
Oh for the days when we used to just pull out a great album and play it. Seems like now there are multiple procedures and gadgets involved. I’m sure a vinyl lovers hazmat suit will be promoted in the future to ensure an optimal listening experience. That said, I’m a sucker and will probably buy one. Thanks
There does seem like there's a solution for everything these days. I try not to loose sight of the goal which is to enjoy the music, but it's fun to use the gadgets as well.
Just found your channel and this video. Found your experiment really interesting. I think it was well done. I definitely subscribed. Enjoyed thus vid. Very much
I still have my red Discwasher Zerostat 3 from decades ago. It still makes the same noise I remember while using. Hopefully it still works as it use to. Good informative video.
I bought my Zerostat in the mid seventies and have been using it ever since. I thought I'd relate to you my experience since I've found it works exceptionally well for me. After removing a record from its sleeve, I hold it near my face to determine how 'staticy' it is. I've found my cheek to be more sensitive to static than the back of my hand. If there is any static at all, I place the record on the turntable while in motion. I hold the Zerostat about 12" above the record and squeeze it slowly taking about 5 seconds, then releasing it over another 5 seconds. That's it, one slow squeeze in and a slow release. I've found it to remove 90 to 100% of the static every time. Great device! My 45 year old Zerostat looks the same as the new one other than mine is white in color.
While this test really did not answer any questions for me, I am going by your posting and purchasing an original Zerostat. With over a thousand records I need to try something!
Some good ideas for further testing in the comments. I'd like to know how much, if any, static is dispersed/absorbed after placing a record on the turntable, with no zerostat involved. So... 1. In hand - take readings 2. Place in on the turntable - take readings, and note the difference. Then... 3. Use zerostat with the record on the turntable, and take readings. I think I need to invest in a static meter. Thank you for doing so and sharing your test results here!
Hi Chris, thanks for the detailed video. I have always thought this was voodoo nonsense but you've convinced me, I just purchased one. I also watched your Destat video, it's tempting but I just can't justify the price. Hopefully the Zerostat will be good enough.
I ordered my first Milty over the weekend and figured I’d get a leg up on learning how to use it while I wait for it to arrive. Stumbled across your video and WOW! Thanks for posting this man! I found it incredibly helpful and love watching you test the different processes, as well as having some numerical evidence. Instant subscribe from me, man. Kudos.
I have been waiting for this to come back in stock from my favorite retailer. I'm about to pull the trigger so to say. It sounds like one of the options is the spray the record while it is spinning on the turntable. I have a belt drive table and almost every listening session I get a static zap at some point when I touch the tone arm to move it to or from the record. Thus my desire to get the antistat. I'm thinking of hitting the spinning record as well as the tonearm. $100 seems expensive, but I can't imagine that static sound running through my preamp is good for it either.
Nice test. I would suggest that after taking the reading while holding it in your hand, you also place the album on the turntable to get final readings. You’ve shown that zero stat can greatly reduce static on the album . However, are you reducing it only to have it increase significantly when placed on turntable/played. If readings on turntable always increases significantly, one might question the value of this device?
Your body is a capacitor, every time you pic up the Record you recharge it, also its not real world, no one picks up a record to use the Zerostat. Do real world. # 1 put record on turntable, #2 Take a reading #3 use Zerostat as prescribed (buy doing it on the Turntable you remove static from the record and also the turntable and cartridge. #4 take another reading. That's it done. Just buy touching and pulling away the record off of the turntable mat you generate static, the same thing happens when you separate two peaces of Styrofoam, or lift socks off of carpet you will see a sock stick to itself from static, when a woman puts on nylons she will generate static and when she pulls them off they will statically stick to her dress. As clothes in the dryer come together and then separate they will generate tons of static over. The half hour of coming together and separating. And When you have shocks on when walking on carpet if you drag your feet you will static charge your body.....after that (even if you no longer move your body will say charged for long periods of time and then if someone walks buy and you touch them and their body is not as statically charged as yours, the static electricity will jump from your body to theirs untill both body's have an equal charge then the static electricity will stop. The charge comes from braking contact from the carpet fibers as you dag your feet across all of the carpet fibers. Also when you comb dry hair, as the brush rubs and then brakes contact with the hair at the end of a comb stroke it will generate static to the point that a girls long hair will stand up. You are doing the same thing buy lifting up the Record off of the rubber mat and turntable.
I can assure you that you do not generate static just by touching a record. I've tested this repeatedly. You might like to see the results of the Destat video as much of this is covered.
I have used the Milty as one of the cleaning steps before doing transfers. It is definitely needed more in winter when the humidity is low. I always use the four squeeze method. And I repeat the process if I flip over the record. Results vary by the type of vinyl but in general it reduces static, and it helps the brush (my last step) work more efficiently.
The mascara tinged tears of Tammy Faye will remove all dust, static and sin from your albums! A few drops on the discwasher and you are in hi-fi heaven.
The only reason to remove static electricity is to avoid clicks and ticks, right? So the only valid measurement can be taken with the record on the turntable right before starting playback and add a listening session right after. Since record vinyl might differ, always take the same record and do before/after readings. I even think it would be beneficial to introduce each test with your Standard „Play the record“ ceremony - I.e. get the record off the sleeve,put it onto the turntable, wipe/blow dust etc. this will charge your record and you can attack the static electricity with the ion blaster. BTW. After tearing all your sleeves apart - how do you store your records 🤓
I have some new additions for the follow up video, but using the same record probably won't work. I'd need to find a way to re-introduce static consistently. It's just easier to measure the static of different records. The vinyl isn't going to be much different from one to another. I do appreciate the feedback though. p.s. I have aftermarket inner sleeves I use for all my records ;-)
This is the 1st time I’ve seen anyone tear the paper sleeve. This is not normal. You wouldn’t do that to sleeves that have art and lyrics on them. Very weird. I appreciate learning the best way to use these devices. Mine broke after a year or so and I never felt like it was worth the money to replace it.
I think tearing the paper sleeve is counter productive. The act of tearing the paper creates millions of micro paper fragments that then have to be cleaned off the record before playing it. The presence of these small paper fibers increases the possibility that you create micro scratches when cleaning the record. My opinion., just remove the record from the paper sleeve in the normal manner and throw it away. If it has printing on it that you want to save put the paper sleeve by itself back in the record cover and put the record in a plastic sleeve.
If an inner sleeve had lyrics or art I definitely wouldn't tear it. But paper is AWFUL for records and I just trash them anyway. Sorry to hear your milty broke, you may want to contact them about that. For the price, they should last decades.
Great video! For an even more scientific approach, I'd suggest: • Test each method at least 3 times, to ensure accuracy of measurements and application • Once consistent results are proven, conduct another test of each method where you interrupt the process halfway through and take a measurement, to gauge strength/effectiveness as well as potential improvements for each method. • Ground yourself with an anti-static strap (sometimes used in electronics repairs) to mitigate/eliminate potential static generated by yourself. It may be possible your own static levels vary by using the device, handling objects with any charge whatsoever, etc. Keep up the great work!
I believe the press gives +ve ions, the release -ve ions. You only want the -ve ions, no point having both. So I always point the Milty away from the record when I press and only point the Milty at the record when I release. The release has to be slow enough so it does not click. That is my understanding of the instructions on the box.
I don't understand why you tested the LPs while holding them. I wonder how often you measured the static charge of your shirt vs LP. IMO/FWIW the LPs should be tested ON the player; I don't know anyone who plays an LP while holding it.
I was trying to remove any effect the record player might have. I was going for the effect of the tool and not really replicating the act of playing a record. I may, however, rethink that in a follow up video. I appreciate the constructive criticism.
Since the whole purpose of the Zero Stat is to remove static from records to be played (as opposed to held), there’s no point in testing them while being held. I’d be curious if different turntables contribute to different results, but at the very least, holding all things equal, putting the record down on the platter in playing position is the best way to test different methods from disc to disc.
Why pick up and hold the record when testing the static charge? Who in their right mind would zap the record while on the platter THEN pick it up before playing it?
Because testing the record in hand produces the most accurate results. You might consider watching the videos on the Destat and the carbon fiber brushes for a more in depth explanation.
@@thevinylattack The idea of reducing static charge is to improve playback, therefore it would make sense to see what results would be by removing the static charge immediately before dropping the needle into the groove. You done everything EXCEPT what I've just pointed out. Your experiments there are interesting but irrelevant in the absence of the process that I described .
@@assistantto007 The results are before dropping the needle. You might want to watch the whole thing, especially test two where I treat and measure in hand.
Must have tool. I use it everyday with a carpet being in my audio room. If you shoot the record when on the TT or another surface, measure the record there, not holding it. The static meter is measuring the record and you. Notice how you got a lower reading doing the 4 squeeze? You were holding the record when you did it so you also killed the static on your body( immediate area, arms, t shirt) you would be amazed if you knew how far that gun throws ions. I shoot the record in hand and then put it in a MoFi sleeve after it comes off the TT with static. That way I dont recharge the record when I pick it up to put it in the sleeve.... Hope this helps
@@trevordoolan5011 I was trying to adhere to the most popular methods I could find and some of them state specifically to use the tool while holding the record in hand. I have some ideas for the follow up though that should clear things up a bit.
Yes, came to say the same. I think the act of removing the record from the place you treated is having a negative affect. Based on what you’ve shown so far I have to wonder if the best way is while on the turntable the entire time. As in, put record on the TT, measure, shoot, test again without removing it from the TT. The fact that it was so affective when you held it the whole time leads me to believe this thing works if done right.
Don't understand why he held the record at all. It doesn't matter at all what the static level is in his hand. It only matters what the static level is while the record is on the turntable. ????
Ditch the Zerostat! And, that goes for either the old version or the new one. Get yourself the Staticmaster. It's a polonium- energized radiation device which is safe to use if you follow the instructions -- you'll have no static, whatsoever.
It strikes me that there are THREE questions that aren’t being differentiated by your method. Firstly there’s the question (A) of ‘can the gun remove static from a record?’, which is different from (B) ‘can the gun remove static from a record when it’s on the platter?’, and (C) ‘Is there a further problem of static generation after the record has been played?’. For (A), you need only hold the record using rubber gloves (that metering confirms are not affecting the test) and zap the record with the gun. If the product works, then we should see the static in the disc decrease. For (B), you need to meter when the disc is on the platter, before and after zapping with the gun, For (C) you need to meter a third time after the record has been played but when it is still on the platter. If this shows build up of static, then the type of mat may be the problem and a topic for another video.
Great video, thanks. The comment I have is that as the results for on platter and in the hand measuring differ then the static that the record stylus sees is the one that affects playback? Can you test for static at the record/stylus interface? Just my thought.
@@thevinylattack Thanks for this. I've now seen your follow up Furutech De-Stat III Static Charge Eliminator video. Very good approach, loved that vid too. I use a Milty and will now use it off the TT as per your findings.
"Discwasher" brand used to sell those, never tried one. I do remember making mix tapes from vinyl back in the 70's. When I'd reach the end of one side I would fog some moisture from my breath onto the vinyl surface. That kept it quiet.
In the Discwasher days, the instructions directed that you slowly squeeze and unsqueeze the trigger so as not to pop the piezo crystal. Popping the crystal interrupts the stream of ions. Done correctly, the device works beautifully.
At 7:50 4 squeezes at 8". I don't think that is 8" I'm not convinced my measuring it in your hand. Surely what you want is to measure the static when it's on the turntable. That's where the performance is most important.
I was after the effectiveness of the tool and adhering to the methods that were popular. I achieved most of what I set out to do, hopefully I'll button it up next time.
Thanks for sharing. I’m wondering how much touching the record while taking measurements is changing the figures. Placing the record on a non static sleeve to measure may change the results. I tend to put the record on the platter and then use the triangle method
@@thevinylattack Good question. Before he engaged the lathe he took the static gun and just kind of squeezed fast all over the device. I was under impression, as you mentioned, you do it slow. But he shot the thing up. lol He seemed satisfied. I just found it interesting.
I used the Milty Zerostat in the mid-70s, and had no success with it at all. I then transferred my allegiance to that other much-maligned Milty product, Permastat, with great success...so much so that those albums from the mid-70s are still statically inert and in the pristine condition that they were all those years ago! But, and it's a big one, use it properly or you'll end up making matters worse.....I suspect Permastat got its unfavourable reputation from those who didn't follow instructions, or didn't exercise enough care after treatment.
In my experience, a record does indeed sound better after eliminating static. I don't hear 'sonic' difference as much as it's just the absence of noise. Either way, it's a staple for me.
Totally "my people!" I'm not any kind of vinyl junkie, and I have thought a few times "looks like ghost hunting! Thanks for the grin! #ImJustHereForTheHost
Really glad you did this. I have been debating whether or not to buy one of those. This makes me think it would be worth it. I’m glad to be a subscriber 🤝
All depends on where you live/climate and your surfaces In home. When I lived in NY this was a must have however when I moved to Greenville SC It became obvious it wasn't needed. I literally have almost zero static in my house and my records are dead silent. At least that's my experience.
What about increasing the humidity level in the room? My room is small. I try and reduce static energy by running a small vaporizer during my listening session. I also use a Milty gun so I don't know if moisture levels in the air make any difference.
I have a Degritter that I'm actually running right now to clean my latest RSD haul. It's an expensive item, but it works better than anything else I've ever seen.
@@gregherb4125 Right now I'd wait to see if the Humminguru that's supposed to be released in September will be worth the money. I have one coming in and I'll be doing a review as soon as I'm able to test it out.
Has anyone tried zerostating on the turntable and NOT lifting it before playing? Test static levels on turntable (not spining) zerostat then test in situ before playing?
Thank you for this test! Also, your penmanship is fantastic! Just got a collection of vinyl from my father in law. He kept his records immaculate and I intend on keeping them in great shape! Thanks again!
Easiest test, styrofoam packing peanuts. About as obvious and dramatic a test as you can get that the zerostat works. Electrostatic surface charge meters are great tools for electronics hobbyists - it proves that 99% of 3d printing filament has incredibly high surface charges and can destroy microcontrollers, and why using ESD safe filament is a necessity.
At Discwasher who launched the product nationally we would set the album down flat and squeeze the trigger and then flip it over and repeat. Note the static field reading is affected by the otherside of the record when measured in hand. Measure from the flat surface or the turntable...
Every time you touch the record you are introducing static, why do you think that technicians working on sensitive electronics have to be grounded to stop them from damaging the components so therefore I believe all your results are false sorry but it’s common sense to me 🤔🤔
No need to be sorry. I asked for feedback to help and that's what you gave. I'll be addressing the grounding issue in a follow up video. Thanks from dropping by.
It seems unreliable, and with very unpredictable results. Looks like a rain dance to me. I am not convinced. What does the time to squeeze or release the trigger has anything to do with releasing positive or negative ions? Either it does, or it doesn’t. How does it create the ionic showers? Positive or Negative?
I think your step of "Now we pull the LP away from the rubber platter and near my large beard" may be inducing static. The number one method of generating static charge is rubbing a rubber balloon against a head of hair, after all. Good to see you running tests though. Thanks.
Hey Chris- dig the channel, you’ll do well! I’ve been buying audiophile pressings for some time, now. To me, it’s worth it, especially if you have the rig to enjoy the extra fidelity these lp’s bring to the “table”- pun intended. Good luck man!
Thanks much for the kind words. I'm in agreement with you about the higher end records. As my system has grown I can really appreciate what goes in to them.
I bought a static gun in the 70's and what I remember from my instructions is that you release the trigger away from the record not on it when you do the three points. I always had good results with it
@@thevinylattack Most things things today don't seem to come with instructions or for that matter aren't made half as good as what we had many years ago
I also recall from the Discwasher Zero Stat that you are not to use it on a record that is on the turntable. You were to hold the record in one hand (not with the finger tips) away from the turntable.
An excellent review..I remember the white handle zerostat gun from the late 60s my father had. Wish I still had it. I do have the original dishwasher brush and some fluid left. Don't use it though, it's just nice to have in the drawer. I wet washed my albums and was intrigued to see if the results you got were worth investing in a new gun.
Great concept for testing bur I feel you negated every test by lifting the record to measure ...we (humans) are like big batteries , always carrying a charge - just think how we ZAP others or grounds when humidity is low. So every time you touch that album, you are re-introducing a charge to what you just deionized. Okay so redo the tests. Everyone with the record on the table (spinning or not) and measure. So example - Test 1 - Record out of sleeve, on the table. Measure. Do the one squeeze 12" as per instructions. Measure - There is your baseline. Now do all the other tests the same way but the only alteration is # or position of squeeze, duration, spin no spin. THat I would love to see. I have an ORIGINAL zero stat and no way to test it...but I know in the past it worked...thanks for your hard work
Great video and tests... just a couple of steps missing to be more acurate though; unless you have a wire connecting your big toe to an outdoor copper grounding pipe or to the ground prong of your wall power socket, you're not going to get a favorable outcome. By touching your record to meter your results, you are sharing positivity and re-charging your vinyl by pretty much creating a "closed loop". By not discharging or "earthing" your body before handling, numbers will be all over the place. Your rubber turntable mat is an excellent insulator! Try placing your record on the platter, take your measurements, then use the Zerostat and re-measure without physically touching the record throughout the entire process. I get near 100% results every time! Just friendly advice 🙂 wow lol, just realized that you guys pretty much went through all this a year ago... ha! sorry to have wasted your time 🤪🤢🤮💩
Shouldn't the item be grounded for an accurate test. Your body will definitely cause variations. I truly do not feel this is an accurate way to conduct such a test.
Thank you ,thank you ,thank you. I now realize I have been using my Milti wrong for years. I was always skeptical if it was actually doing anything. I liked your testing approach. Thanks again. Cheers from Canada
In the final test you held the tip of the gun in your hand to steady it which was was not the case in the other tests. As the charged ions are being ejected from the tip this seems like a significant difference in test procedure. Also I would be interested to know whether a record can be discharged using an earthing strap as with microelectronics. Y
@@thevinylattack Right, they are pretty large and not aesthetically pleasing. But it make for a very interesting video. On a side note, holding the record in your hand and then transferring it to the platter produces static. So testing the device after you have laid the record on the platter would make more sense.
Thank you so much for doing the thorough test! I have a Milty and have been using it completely wrong with no good results haha.I will be using method 2 from this day forth! I will also be adopting your sleeve tear away method with all future purchases, great idea!
Without a wrist strap to ground you voided the test because the human body with clothing can generate 40k voltage and transfer charge to the record. Wrist strap is about a 1 meg resistor to ground to remove body charge at a slow rate. I personally modified my turntable to drain charge why playing. A carbon fiber brush touching the spindle then 1 meg resistor to ground. .. You did take a great approach to scientifically prove this. Just didn't take yourself into the equation .
Why so sparing with the squeezes? If I had one of those I'd be blasting it liberally all over the surface of the record! Presumably you can't "over-neutralise" static so why not? :P
Bought a Zerostat (white body) in the 70’s. Still have it. Used it mainly for DIRECT TO DISC records. Still have some never opened DtoD albums as I would get 2 units of same release when buying. I enjoyed showing how one could feel the cold stream of ions on your hand if zerostat was pointed at your palm during the squeeze!
Excellent video I recently bought a Milty and was concerned I wasn't getting particularly good results and thought there was a lack of concise instructions included. So now I know. Thanks
Just curious. Maybe I missed it, after you zero stat it while holding the record, after you place it back on the turntable, did the numbers change? Wondering if there was a chance right before play. Thanks.
Honestly, I have been playing vinyl records for 45 years and I have never found the need for one of these and neither have I found it necessary to clean records except for those purchased used. I have 40 year old records that have been played many times and still sound as they did when brand new but then I never leave the records lying around out of their sleeves and I always have the turntable lid closed when playing. Also, I know how to hold a record without putting finger or thumb prints on it.
Wait, why are on earth would you use the record in your hand as the test? Surely you would use the record on the turntable as your test/base? Your hands may produce static. Honestly feel like this whole video is completely redundant.
I really enjoy your channel. I have a vintage Nagoaka NF103 Anti Static Gun. It runs off one C battery. I hold it above a stationary record for about 5 seconds. It seems to make a difference. Even if it doesn't, it still works as a low level stun gun. It does give quite a shock if you touch the nozzle. ⚡⚡⚡😳
Just now, I think I came up with an easy and inexpensive vinyl anti-static idea. Where I live, during winter, the air is so dry and my warm weather clothes are mostly nylon. The dry air combined with nylon clothes generates very strong static electricity and the shock always stings me. So I started grounding my hand to the kitchen sink while I remove my nylon clothes and the static gets discharged on the metal sink. So I think this might work on vinyl as well, just ground a metal oven tray to the sink with a copper wire and place the record on tray to discharge the static. There's even Conductive Fabric for Grounding/Earthing that you can order online. I'm a DJ so I will buy it and cut into DJ slipmats because back-cueing records is how I generate static electricity on my records, but it will still need to get grounded with copper wire before and after playing. I would love to see you try my idea and measure the static charge with your little device.
YOUY EVEN TORE THE SLEEVE ON THE OLD TAMMY BAKER LP!!! What a (fill in the blank). You take this stuff WAY too seriously. (In case you didn't notice, you're TOUCHING the record AFTER you zap it).
If you pick up a record from a turntable rubber matt, you get it statically charged. I know that very well from experience. The first test was done wrongly. You must discharge the record once it is placed on the turntable, and leave it there for playing.
I think tearing the sleeve off would be detrimental to this exercise from the standpoint of real world use. So everyone else is going to be pulling the record out of the sleeve to play. Therefor, the experiment should be the same.....I am very scientifically minded, and I notice these things. Nothing one you, I just thought I would run this by you. Tammy Faye Baker..................My eyes! My eyes!!!
The tearing has nothing to do with the test. That was just an exercise in how to not scratch a record more when removing from paper sleeves. I recommend putting them in poly sleeves thereafter.
I think by holding the record after you’ve zapped it you are recharging the static. I have a Zerostat and it definitely works. I know this because my cartridge was picking up static discharge from the record which identified itself as a regular click when the record was playing. After zapping it on the turntable and not touching the vinyl at all the click disappeared.
I think you might be screwing up all your tests because you keep "picking them up" every single time after you've used the Zerostat! I could be wrong, but it seems to me if you want to KEEP static electricity off the record, stop touching them!! 🤦🏼♂️
Picking them up doesn't affect anything. Particularly when you're grounded as I am during the tests. Also, how else will you get your records to the table?
