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Does the universe exist if you are not looking? 

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Does the universe exist if you are not looking? Well, I won't answer it. I will let the Indian philosopher Rabindranath Tagore and Albert Einstein answer it.
Did you know that Albert Einstein and the Indian philosopher, Rabindranath Tagore met and had one of the most stimulating, intellectually riveting conversations in history? It was a profound debate between science and spirituality.
I've always been fascinated with the meeting of Indian philosophy and western schools of thought. Indian/ eastern thinking is characterized as spiritual and mystical in nature while western thinking is scientific, logical, and rational.
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On July 14, 1930, Albert Einstein welcomed the Indian philosopher Rabindrath Tagore into his home in Berlin. They explored the age old friction between science and religion. A profound debate between science and spirituality, this conversation touched upon our existence, difference between Indian philosophy and its western counterparts, the observer's influence on our shared reality, divine and everything in between.
Does the universe exist if you are not looking?
0:00 Intro
0:20 Albert Einstein & Theory of Relativity
0:58 Indian Philosophers and Thinkers
1:07 Indian Philosopher Rabindranath Tagore
1:54 Albert Einstein and Rabindranath Tagore
3:50 Einstein and Tagore Plumb the Truth
5:19 A debate between science and spirituality
6:42 Science and Religion
7:41 Beauty and Truth
8:13 Indian philosophy
9:39 Observer's influence on reality
12:20 Conclusion
Albert Einstein was a German-born theoretical physicist, widely acknowledged to be one of the greatest physicists of all time. Albert Einstein is known for developing the theory of relativity, but he also made important contributions to the development of the theory of quantum mechanics.
Rabindranath Tagore was an Indian philosopher and poet, writer, playwright, composer, philosopher, social reformer and painter. He reshaped Bengali literature and music as well as Indian art with Contextual Modernism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
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@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Conversation starts at 5:19 for the curious and the impatient. I also have a Patreon page where you can support this channel. Here is the link: www.patreon.com/northerndiaries
@chinnuatluri
@chinnuatluri 2 года назад
It's quite amazing to know that Einstein and Tagore had interacted with each other in mind boggling conversations and exchanged their perspectives on reality and existence.
@pratyushray9165
@pratyushray9165 2 года назад
Tagore is literally venerated as God in Bengal. I myself spend hours reading his works in awe. And being a science student especially a physics lover I can't deny my fondness of Einstein. Great video! Was elated to see it.
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
I've always been fascinated with Bengal, the art, literature, cinema, food, everything. I really want to visit one day, especially Calcutta.
@pratyushray9165
@pratyushray9165 2 года назад
@@NorthernDiaries 😀😀😀
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann Год назад
Tagore was a great physicist. He understood alright.
@Fatcatcentral1519
@Fatcatcentral1519 2 года назад
What a compelling discussion I found myself first totally siding with einstein before what’s Tagore was trying to say hit me. But Imagine if the truth has been there for us to know all along what we just don’t have the capacity to notice it because of our humanness
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
I often think about that. But as Tagore says, if such a "truth" exist, and we cannot grasp it because of our humanness, then it is not relevant for us. But yes, the moth analogy was perfect to put that thought into words.
@SnakPak
@SnakPak 2 года назад
Fascinating video. Thank you for this.
@rifatalam2075
@rifatalam2075 2 года назад
Hey.. loved it that you covered this subject matter through such an incident. Please do share the other conversations these brilliant minds shared about music and psychology.
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Thank you :) Will do.
@raycarter6770
@raycarter6770 2 года назад
I love your content dude!
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Thank you. You're very kind.
@roysensei
@roysensei 2 года назад
Dude awesome video, more tagore + einstein would be awesome. I thought that Tagore's analogy of the moth eating the paper with writing it was tight. Would also be curious to learn more about his ideas on the superpersonal and universal human spirit
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Many of Rabindranath Tagore's books and plays have been translated in English. His plays and even his short stories are his expression of his philosophy. That'd be a good place to start.
@Neuroscience96
@Neuroscience96 2 года назад
Oh, what a deep conversation that was! I loved it and enjoyed it all. you are such a gifted man! Your editing and analysis of your all videos are always spot on❤ I would love to hear their remains convesations more tho. I would also apprciate you if you can inform me where can I find and read their conversations! They were such prfound minds!
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Thank you. You can read the conversation here. mast.queensu.ca/~murty/einstein_tagore.pdf
@Neuroscience96
@Neuroscience96 2 года назад
@@NorthernDiaries Thanks a million❤
@mac2phin
@mac2phin 2 года назад
I urge you to continue your films and interests.
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Thank you. I will :)
@martialarts4095
@martialarts4095 2 года назад
I don’t have time right now ..will watch when I get back home ...😣
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Ha! Thanks for letting me know :)
@martialarts4095
@martialarts4095 2 года назад
I liked the video ,please make a video on their discussion on free will !!
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Will do :)
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann Год назад
Theologically speaking; the purpose of God is Love which is why God is Different.
@manishjain999
@manishjain999 2 года назад
Is Tagore's analogy about moth right. All animals have cognition power but humans also have meta-cogintion power. Humans can think and also think about thinking and think about. thinking about thinking. It has power to recursively retrospect. So a moth can never realize that value of literature when moth eats paper, but a child who eats paper has capability of realizing what he has eaten as he develops knowledge and thinks about thinking recursively. So even what human facing could be illusion, he can constantly get over that illusion as he can recursively question his own belief about illusion. The only question is can he get beyond the illusion of universe. Is our power to recursively think can go beyond universe. May be not and we have to live with that approximation of truth that I mentioned in my other comment.
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
" So a moth can never realize that value of literature when moth eats paper, but a child who eats paper has capability of realizing what he has eaten as he develops knowledge and thinks about thinking recursively." - That is a great point about the potential evolution of humankind, if we somehow survive far into the future.
@TALKmd
@TALKmd 2 года назад
Yes , he his right about the moth and the paper 📜 , but he does not acknowledge that the potential of science will discover that the conscientiousness of the moth Is foundamentally different from human conscietiousness. I like for example the phrase of michio kaku : " Human can imagine futuristic posablties , he can think about tomorrow " Yes , there is animal's that can do so , but not in the way that we do . Also , he ignores the potential about what we can discover and only acknowledge the ultimate thought process by itself but collaboration and tech in the 21 century and the knowledge about the brain 🧠 showed us the complexity. Although we can't definitely point where and how the conscientiousness oparete but we should not cancel the potential of discover that by means of science . On the other hand , the necessity of literature and philosophy stays .
@NorthernDiaries
@NorthernDiaries 2 года назад
Absolutely. I don't think he is rejecting the discoveries we make by the means of science, but only saying that they are human discoveries from the human point of view. So, consciousness plays a fundamental part in our reality.
@pratyushray9165
@pratyushray9165 2 года назад
You are correct in your view....but what he is telling is that truth is essentially human....without humans there is no value of truth....following the same argument, we can say that the knowledge of science is that of a scientific man, and if man is not there science will also lose its meaning.
@Ariannie272
@Ariannie272 2 года назад
With apologies to Einstein worshippers, he sounds like a child compared to Tagore ... this despite his supposed familiarity with Schopenhauer!
@knowledgedesk1653
@knowledgedesk1653 2 года назад
Both were right
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