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The Miami Dolphins are talking “in earnest” with Tua Tagovailoa to extend his contract. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, Dave Helman, and LeSean McCoy discuss Tua’s performance and if it merits him becoming the highest paid QB in the NFL
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@SpeakOnFS1 12 дней назад

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@TV-fv1ih 11 дней назад

The question was does Tua "deserve" to be the highest paid QB. The answer is NO! Just like all the guys before him who shouldn't have been the highest paid, including Rodgers, they will still probably acquiesce and get close. It all started with Watson and the madness continues. Its not hard as the standard is Mahomes right now and then you work your way down from there!

@phillipfry1583 10 дней назад

THE ACTUAL QUESTION IS "SHOULD DOLPHINS MAKE TUA HIGHEST PAID QB?" WITH THERE BEING A THING CALLED A SALARY CAP AND IT GOES ANYWHERE BUT DOWN. SIMPLE ANSWER WOULD BE YES THIS IS MIA BEST FIT AT QB SO WHY GAMBLE ON THE FUTURE OR FREE AGENCY BECAUSE SOME LOW-LEVEL FRANCHISE WILL ALWAYS SHELL OUT KURT COUSINS CONTRACTS FOR LESSER TALENT.

@phillipfry1583 10 дней назад

WELL IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED. HAD TO BRING BACK LASHAY "THE FOOTBALL SAVANT" MCCOYS SHADY TAKES. YOU'D EXPECT MORE OF AN INTRICATE TAKE FROM SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY PLAYED. WHERES JJ OR TJ WHOSYAMAMA BECAUSE THIS AINT IT FOX

@rafaelkortright9867 7 дней назад

How can you justify paying the guy the bag after one healthy season. Joy is on one. Add Tua to the list of failed QBs after Marino.

@phillipfry1583 День назад

@@rafaelkortright9867 EASY WHO ELSE CAN THEY GO AND GET WITH TUAS UPSIDE? IN A YEAR OR 2 THAT QB MONEY WONT BE MUCH AND THEY CAN STRUCTURE IT TO ONLY INCENTIVIZE IT IF HE PLAYS X AMOUNT OF GAMES JUST BECAUSE A CONTRACT IS WORTH A CERTAIN AMOUNT DOESNT MEAN HE'LL SEE ALL OF IT.

@sunnydays405 12 дней назад

You don’t pay top dollar for a QB that can’t play in the cold lmao

@theliverpoolking2259 12 дней назад

It's not a Tua problem though, that's a Miami problem. Dan Marino is probably the most talented QB of all time (yes including Mahomes) but go look up his record in the cold. It's abysmal as well. That's just a Miami thing, the same way we excel in Hot weather conditions and teams like the Bills do not.

@FLEX.609 12 дней назад

😂😂😂

@ridoxxx_0030 12 дней назад

@@theliverpoolking2259then don’t pay them. Be fkn smart, invest in players that can keep you in the game in freezing cold temperatures (AKA TURN INTO A DEFENSIVE TEAM) and let tua be a game manager. The problem is that they already have star players paid with much dollar in the offensive side including tyreek hill. They didn’t need hill, only for the regular season but hill is a non factor in the post for that very reason. The Miami dolphins as an organization is terrible

@DerQuanDoucett 12 дней назад

That’s just Miami. Tyreek cam3 from kc where he balled out in the playoffs and went to Miami and when the playoffs start he can’t catch

@DerQuanDoucett 12 дней назад

@@ridoxxx_0030so your not go pay any offensive players ever? Because Miami is always go be a warm weather city. Yu trynna turn them into the bears 😂😂

@anthonyray5713 12 дней назад

The NFL has to create a mid tier QB contract level.

@MYKEY_1 12 дней назад

They have one, look at Kirk

@estvescalders6597 12 дней назад

Its on the owners. They just need to let them walk into free agency. I would've let Dak go after rookie contract when he insisted on being one of the highest paid QBs. I'm not surprised at all that 4 years have passed and he has nothing to show for it. Maybe 1 playoff win against an old Tom Brady and absolutely no deep playoff runs.

@corning1 11 дней назад

Look at baker

@dwaynebanks4194 11 дней назад

@@estvescalders6597you must have a backup plan. Most teams don’t that’s why they overpay the quarterbacks

@user-bk6uu5hu6o 11 дней назад

@@MYKEY_12 years 50 million isn’t mid tier

@nonbiasedreviews001 12 дней назад

As a washington fan, I still can not believe we had all those guys in the building at one point

@danielgalan1920 11 дней назад

Sheesh. That’s a goat coaching staff right there. A bunch of young geniuses back in 2013.

@MrDownbyme 11 дней назад

All held back because Mike shanahan only listened to his son.

@kclark777v 8 дней назад

Painful.

@freddygaulman5493 12 дней назад

All of a sudden regular season stats matter to Joy😂😂😂wheres the "what do you do in the playoffs" takes she usually gives for every other QB

@jabaricrewsellis8740 12 дней назад

PREACH!!!!

@kingcaesar4817 12 дней назад

I guess you didn't listen to her

@freddygaulman5493 12 дней назад

@@kingcaesar4817 she danced around the question, heard every word

@kingcaesar4817 12 дней назад

@freddygaulman5493 she literally Saud he should be the highest paid because it's next man up and that's how it's always been which is true. JIMMY g was the highest paid at one time because he was next man up. She also stated the injuries etc. She didn't dance around it at all.

@theGQX7 12 дней назад

Exactly her argument against paying Lamar Jackson top money, smh

@yahcrack 12 дней назад

Joy be having smoke for every other QB except for Tua

@louisgaines7400 11 дней назад

Yep 💯

@jmike_rockaway 11 дней назад

Duhh, she’s a MIA fan

@chetjablonski1993 10 дней назад

@@jmike_rockawayyeah-her bro had a HOF career for them, she’s (to her detriment) a lifer Fish fan/supporter…. We can all pray for her

@jayflorida 8 дней назад

But TUA seems to have the most smoke of all time… haters really hate

@curtisrobinson2291 2 дня назад

So if you are a fan of the team it is cool to not be objective, when your job is to be objective? That's wild

@gonzolo4 11 дней назад

Tua is the BEST quarterback in Miami since Marino. QBs aren’t easy to find, pay him and keep it moving.

@DRINKNaCOLD1 11 дней назад

Not saying Tua deserves top money but Shady saying processing and throwing on time is the easy part about being a QB is wild lol… that’s the number 1 reason why super gifted players don’t make it

@KendoAlexander 12 дней назад

Someone needs to ask Shady, what was Hurts before AJ Brown? System QBs deserve to get paid too.

@gregorydunston2952 12 дней назад

At least Hurts tho, almost made the best out of the talent that was given to him. He did get his team to the SB & was legit 1 drive away from winning one. Tua ain’t done squat outside of put up some numbers vs losing teams

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@gregorydunston2952 Half of Tua's team was out.. remember when the Bucs owned KC just cuz 2 line men were out?

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

@@elgisthomas8791where was Tua the year before that? Oh that’s right, injured again whole his backup put up more points in his playoff game than Tua did this year

@neetrab 11 дней назад

@KendoAlexander - and what was AJ before he came to philly? Just a regular WR that nobody was talking about or feared as much as he's feared now playing with Jalen. Jalen took his team to the playoffs his first full szn. Why you mad??

@neetrab 11 дней назад

@@jrcrit8843 OUCH!!! 😆

@playhousefilms368 12 дней назад

No, he cant justify being paid more than Mahomes, Allen, or Lamar.

@TG_Kie-L0s0 12 дней назад

Simple

@Icanthearyouatall 11 дней назад

Herbert can’t justify being paid more than any of those quarterbacks but guess what ? He is, the NFL contracts have always been next man up(unless your name is Lamar Jackson then you get colluded against.. smh) it’s simply tua’s turn to be paid nobody ever says anything like this when it’s a mediocre white quarterback up to being paid

@chetjablonski1993 10 дней назад

Buffalo & KC want all these fools to pay their QB. Pat & Josh are on almost team friendly deals compared to these bums…

@BiZZYBEAMiN 6 дней назад

@@chetjablonski1993which QBs are you referring to as bums ?

@legitdragon6202 12 дней назад

No. If you can't beat over .500 teams and can't play in the cold, you don't deserve it. The 'next man up, that's just how it works argument' is dumb AF.

@RayRey028 12 дней назад

Exactly. Joy Taylor, the dolphin fan she is, forgot this little fun fact.

@jackied962 12 дней назад

As someone from Washington DC, we've been doing the "next man up" thing for 30 years now. Hasn't worked out too well.

@jeanfourcade 12 дней назад

This show turns into a clown show as soon as JJ walks out.

@chetjablonski1993 10 дней назад

I couldn’t agree more

@jessimong7690 8 дней назад

Oh but he has beaten teams over 500 in his career just not last year. And this cold playing thing isn't all on him

@719tanker 8 дней назад

As a Bills fan, PLEASE do make him the highest paid QB in the NFL!!! It will be guaranteed 2 victories per season once it kicks in

@yahcrack 12 дней назад

0:46 Joy has smoke for every team but the Dolphins, stop making excuses for that bum

@jackreacher2095 11 дней назад

Well yea her big brother is a hall of Famer who played for them

@TyBless 11 дней назад

Said from a trailor park in New England...

@ryancondor8078 11 дней назад

@jackreacher2095 he also played for the jets and won as many playoff games in 1 year with the jets as he did 13yrs with miami...

@poppahoggg2587 10 часов назад

😂Bum! FACTS 💯

@Davo2times 12 дней назад

“we was praying for him” 😭😭😭😭

@MattShanley-bb6qs 12 дней назад

Can't beat good teams , terrible in cold weather's & can't stay healthy except 1 season but he should be the highest paid qb in the nfl?!

@andrewswing9917 12 дней назад

Can't change the market so quit whining

@MattShanley-bb6qs 12 дней назад

@andrewswing9917 I ain't whining, I'm just saying I would make him the highest paid QB when all the things I said about him

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

He has beat good trams..

@Alex-ls8ih 12 дней назад

Let's be real he lost to the Superbowl champs Ima a pats fan bro pay that dude y'all have a good team in Mami and y'all haven't since I been watching football.. 1998 till now I'm born in Boston raised in Boston and I'm telling y'all PAY THE DUDE

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

@@andrewswing9917stating the obvious is not whining tool

@eugenepaolella1270 12 дней назад

This is getting ridiculous paying these type of salaries too freaking average quarterbacks average quarterbacks this is getting ridiculous

@gr3415 12 дней назад

Average QB? Go check out his numbers when he got a real coach. Guy lead the league in passing last year 😂

@MikkiChavez 11 дней назад

@@gr3415& went home in the 1st round. Was 1-6 against playoffs teams & had the best WR & RB tandem in the league. Gtfoh

@josephbattaglia6120 11 дней назад

Everyone (pundits, media) keeps calling brock average, does he not deserve to get paid next year?

@eugenepaolella1270 11 дней назад

@@josephbattaglia6120 yes Brock purdy deserves to get money but I wouldn't call him elite Patrick mahomes Josh Allen Justin Herbert those are the ones that deserve top dollar

@chetjablonski1993 10 дней назад

@@MikkiChavez0-6 vs Buffalo, KC, Baltimore & Philly. In 2 of those games (Buffalo & Baltimore)-they gave up 50.

@TyBless 11 дней назад

Tua has NEVER been bottom of the barrel, even when he was throwing to practice Squad WRs running offenses built for Ryan Fitzpatrick.. I agree with not THE HIGHEST PAID, but he deserves his long term deal RIGHT NOW.

@M--76 12 дней назад

Funny how the missing games argument is ok when it's Tua but not one word was being said about Lamar Jackson missing all those games.

@ryancondor8078 12 дней назад

I like how they always say "rodgers last healthy season" talking about 2022, and completely neglect the fact he fractured his thumb on his throwing hand in week 5 vs the giants... 🤦‍♂️

@Icanthearyouatall 11 дней назад

“Missing all those games “ ? Burrow has missed more games in less seasons played than Lamar why don’t you use him for your example ? Lamar is not injury prone 🤡

@byronsmith3152 11 дней назад

How about Burrow?

@M--76 11 дней назад

@@Icanthearyouatall the conversation centered around a contract year. Lamar was hurt two seasons in a row right before his new contract. That’s why.

@malikmobley5466 6 дней назад

Or burro

@clarenceturner9065 9 дней назад

Shady is talking about a player that’s always hurt. Maybe they should check Joe Burrow stats he’s always hurt but no one talks about it because he had one good year.

@jtworkowsky День назад

Joe burrow is statistically Kirk cousins

@SayDatShiii... 12 дней назад

Did Justin Herbert deserve it? Absolutely TF not..

@BentleyVB 12 дней назад

thank you

@thewhitedevilfromthebible5899 12 дней назад

Facts they always m😢excuses for the white boys

@peterkaufman5624 12 дней назад

Very true, monkey see monkey do?

@LKS-M9323 12 дней назад

They hate on Tua so much it's sad

@MrFreakazoid23 12 дней назад

No he didn’t and that’s the point. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot just because you saw another organization do it.

@Yoyo-fu8ul 12 дней назад

Acho saying CJ is not a playmaker got me feeling some type of way...lol...for someone that has been living thru the sh* show in Houston the last few years I beg to differ.

@Slickmac2323 12 дней назад

Exactly! CJ is definitely a play maker. He does not need to use his legs that much bc his processing and accuracy is elite. But if he needs to he can beat with his legs. Archo is dead wrong about CJ.

@TuatagaloaTeo 12 дней назад

He has only played one play off game. Seriously son.

@gregorydunston2952 12 дней назад

@@TuatagaloaTeo& has 1 more playoff win already than Tua does lol

@damioncappello9431 12 дней назад

Brock purdy has 4 playoff wins therefore he is better than cj@@gregorydunston2952

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

@@TuatagaloaTeoumm won his first playoff game in rookie season and won his division in his rookie season. Better than Tua and Herbert with less talent around him

@jordanwatts9419 12 дней назад

Shady talkin bout how bad he was two years ago. Can we not act like Tua can't improve? I more agree with Jo, its just the nature of the game until the next QB gonna be highest paid. Lets also not act like decent QBs are everywhere in this league and its easy to find a replacement

@dssorley4174 12 дней назад

I really think next man up argument is horrible for the game

@shofiulrahman8988 12 дней назад

It’s horrible but it’s the reality especially when it comes to QBs. Realistically there’s only 10 QBs that are franchise QBs. If you don’t have a top 10 QB, you’re going to almost certainly not be in the playoff hunt. So because of that you need to pay them because you don’t have a backup. You can lose any other position and the impact of that loss won’t be as much as a franchise QB

@user-bk6uu5hu6o 11 дней назад

@@shofiulrahman8988and even some of them aren’t worth it like Jared goff

@shofiulrahman8988 10 дней назад

@@user-bk6uu5hu6o he’s worth it now, but I get what you’re saying. It’s just how it is with QBs. With WRs only the top 3-4 will be getting “next man up contact” and that’s because the difference between the 6th best WR and 20th Best WR isn’t that large of a gap, whereas the gap the between the 10th best QB and the 20th best could be 7 wins.

@burst1172 7 дней назад

Paying tua like this would be hilarious

@jabbarperry5020 12 дней назад

52 years as a Dolphins fan... paying top 5 money to a qb that can't win in the cold or the post season... CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY Team Shady McCoy! And don't even like McCoy.

@dadarkknight36310 12 дней назад

So Marino should not got paid

@1inchpunisher715 12 дней назад

@@dadarkknight36310Tua ain't Marino 😂

@sapchapo8351 12 дней назад

@@1inchpunisher715Look up Marino in cold weather games, He was the most talented but this is a Dolphins thing not a Tua thing

@1inchpunisher715 12 дней назад

@@sapchapo8351 How often was Marino injured??

@alcozar5905 12 дней назад

Trade him the Dolphins are like Chicago terrible when it comes to quarterbacks you better enjoy what you have. Marino is the only quarterback Miami has ever had.

@ExpandingCounsciousness 12 дней назад

Next man up is the most ludicrous argument for a pay negotiation ever. If you can't consistently do your job to the highest level you don't get the right to command top dollar.

@ImportAl 12 дней назад

BIG NO on paying Tua the most, if Miami isn't 1 Seed, he's probably playing outdoors and throwing beachball-velocity screens for 3 yards.

@Jordan5s 12 дней назад

😂

@ericespinoza373 12 дней назад

He’s the 3rd best QB in the state of Florida

@AmazingXpectationz1982 12 дней назад

💀

@HockeyDudeJames2 12 дней назад

@@ericespinoza373 Lawrence is a bust

@LKS-M9323 12 дней назад

Lol yall delusional

@martinwalker2501 12 дней назад

Tua should either get tagged or get a dollar more than Daniel Jones.

@miamiman24 12 дней назад

He can't be top paid but definitely a decent more than daniel jones. He's quite a bit better then jones

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

And this is why ur on YT instead of a GM for a team

@africasupreme3 11 дней назад

Don't forget people wanted to pay Daniel Jones over Saquon, smfh

@FAFOMGENT 12 дней назад

Tua not being able to play in cold has nothing to do with Tua honestly it’s a team situation but soul searching for a QB is crazy when u have the most accurate qb in NFL numbers don’t lie give him his money he’s got better every year plus not no more qbs out there

@therealgoat98 12 дней назад

All due with respect but can shady also bring up who hurts was before he had to work on his mechanics, can he also bring up how he’s only been healthy 1 full season or how he looked without last years offensive coordinator. Tua is the next man up and that’s how it works.

@JoseRamos-sv6cl 12 дней назад

Dak still waiting on his check

@demonslayer-ds9vo 12 дней назад

Shady is biased af. He just has his favorite players.

@juancamilovelasquez6212 12 дней назад

Hurts had a great post-season and Superbowl, Tua won't ever perform like that, when it matters the most

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@@juancamilovelasquez6212 didn't know losing the SB made it a best post season

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

@@elgisthomas8791did you watch the game tool. Hurts played great in that Super Bowl minus the fumble. Had more post season success than Tua.

@Carters2Cents 12 дней назад

So y'all are all good to pay Tua and make him the highest paid QB but not D4K 🤔

@rafaelkortright9867 7 дней назад

Paying Tua will set back my team. Tua is not a franchise qb. Tua added his name to the list of failed QBs from Marino.

@champ2233killad 2 дня назад

Dak had the type of talent that Tua has now in he's 2nd year were as Tua had to not only wait til year 3 he ALSO had to overcome a potentially career ending injury while ALSO playing behind one of the weakest offensive line in the NFL. Let's also not forget the AFC east has been a stronger division also.

@Carters2Cents День назад

@@champ2233killad Sucks for Tua

@champ2233killad День назад

@@Carters2Cents this is a dumb useless reply fr

@chucknagy5616 6 дней назад

Did Acho just call Stafford non playmaking, timing QB? He is a big armed gunslinger who is not a runner but mobile enough to move in the pocket to throw it down field. The reason the Rams traded Goff for him is they need more playmaking than Goff could provide.

@finzblazin 4 дня назад

Fans gettin limbs amputated left and right from that Chiefs game and these comments talkin bout him losing in the cold. That game was beyond cold.

@5609802741 12 дней назад

This the only time shady and joy don't agree is when they talk about the dolphins 😂😂😂

@whitneycooke713 12 дней назад

The only people talking trash on tua are uneducated media voices and dumb fans. I've been a dolphins fan since marino and this by far is the best qb and team I've seen put together. No question and for people to trash him like this just shows how far from reality the fans and media are. Blame Tua for all the dolphins short comeings 13 starters out and the 31st pass block win ratio o line vs pat mahomes and his number 1 defense. PLEASE DOLPHINS FANS WATCH THE GAMES OR SHUT UP.

@curtisdunn7112 12 дней назад

Hilarious Tua fans

@guiseppejacobs2357 12 дней назад

@@curtisdunn7112they’re always in denial

@TuatagaloaTeo 12 дней назад

Well said

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

Lmao look at this tool fanboy crying over Tua on the internet. Are you Tua’s daddy or something? Jerking him off that much ehh

@robertschoelerman7496 11 дней назад

What was ruas excuse before that if he don't have elite players around him he can't win the QB should elevate the team the team shouldn't have to be leave the QB that's the problem if tua don't have great players on offense he can't win against good teams period his over all record speaks for it self not a dolphins fan but do watch a lot of football tua dint pass the eye test Josh Allen had half his team hurt and look what he did last season QBs lift there team up

@hansphilippe7250 8 дней назад

I know Tua’s not all the way there yet but given his work ethic and how much he improves every year . I’d pay him

@andrewsdew7439 8 дней назад

Did Acho say Stroud isn't a playmaker???

@chevblake92 12 дней назад

Why big tummy shady doing Tua like this? If Tua don’t throw the ball good to Tyreek does he get the yards? Tua is just as important to Tyreek as Tyreek is to Tua!

@whitneycooke713 12 дней назад

Lol so funny how people are so against tua. What has joe burrow done. O yea hes not been healthy the last 2 years. No hate his way. And Herbert what a joke hes done nothing except loose games. People are so dumb it hurts. The dolphins in the playoffs with 13 starters out. I would love to see the qbs winning playoff games with 13 starters out o yea they lost to kc at home with the number 1 defense. It's just a joke the hate he gets.

@johnhickson1095 7 дней назад

Burrow went Super Bowl in year 2

@champ2233killad 2 дня назад

@@johnhickson1095 Yea he also had a team with a good amount of talent on it too. Let's not for get Tua spent his first 2 years throwing to UDFA, UFL players, and Devonta Parker while also playing behind the WORSE offensive line in football.

@johnhickson1095 2 дня назад

@@champ2233killad burrows line was horrible too but he still make plays and he is mobile. Stop making excuses you got it or you don’t. Burrow has moxie and doesn’t need to be coddled and told he is a good player to believe in himself

@johnhickson1095 2 дня назад

@@champ2233killad and Parker was a jump ball specialist. Tua doesn’t excel in the vertical passing game. I can’t even remember last time he threw a “jump ball” because with Fitzpatrick he went off because Fitzpatrick understood Parker’s strengths. That is real quarterbacking

@champ2233killad День назад

@@johnhickson1095 You just lying 🤣🤣🤣 DP is theoretically a "jumpball receiver" but he's NEVER had a high contested catch percentage in his career, on top of that he's rarely healthy. Joe played behind a bad offensive line (still had better defensive and offensive talent than Tua did), and let's not forget Tua had 3 OCs in 2 seasons.

@ineedhoez 9 дней назад

😂😂😂😂😂!!!! Shady had me crying!!! He is right though. Tua needs to take a team friendly deal.

@nathanrice5636 11 дней назад

Shady will never understand that quarterbacks will always get paid for regular season wins it’s the only way you can get to the playoff

@Mysterio-hk9gj 12 дней назад

Tua Making anything above 40 Million Per Season would be a Crime . 💯💫✨🌟⚡🔥💥😶‍🌫️😵🤔🤨

@gr3415 12 дней назад

Thinking you have the slightest clue to anything football related is criminal 😂

@Mysterio-hk9gj 12 дней назад

@@gr3415 I know more about paying NFL QBs than you chump . Go ahead Genius , Pay this Tin Man Tua 60 Million per Season and see if he lasts 5 Games or more without getting smacked in the Head again with Concussions . Then watch the Dolphins Roster be Thinned out because of this Albatross Tua Contract . 🤦💯🤨😵🤔🫣🧐🤯🚨

@brendanroy452 12 дней назад

Acho, you missed the point where none of those coaches payed top dollar to system QBs. You absolutely don't pay Tua. You dont pay a guy who needs so many pieces around him to perform. You need to pay those other pieces.

@guiseppejacobs2357 12 дней назад

You do pay Tua you just don’t pay him top dollar. He needs what jarred Goff got for now and maybe u look to trade him if someone becomes available. Kinda like the deal Kirk cousins just got

@gr3415 12 дней назад

What's the system? I'm curious 😂

@kipp6138 12 дней назад

Great to have Dave back on consistently lately. It’s a good change of pace/style from time to time.

@africasupreme3 11 дней назад

You got to pay the system around Tua. The WRs, the coach, doctors, the weatherman etc

@timothycortez3007 12 дней назад

Cj not a playmaker that’s crazy yea my boy buggin

@ShaqsBlurryVisionNetwork 12 дней назад

😂😂yeah shady heard “Tua is better than Pat” instead of “he had his best season ever”

@ronc6927 12 дней назад

No actually shady was in awe of the fact that acho had the AUDACITY to imply that tua is the reason why Tyreek hill had a career year. I am a die hard dolphins fan and completely agree that if we plug in an average QB with the system we run along with the pieces we have he could be just as if not more successful than tua because of tuas lack of arm strength

@ronc6927 12 дней назад

Tua is most definitely replaceable but unfortunately due to our lack of production over the last decade you have to stick with tua because ON PAPER he is playing a huge part in our success at this point so unfortunately he is going to cap strap the team for years to come and we will not be more than maybe a wild càrd team as long as tua is the QB of the Miami dolphins

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@ronc6927 Funny then why did Teddy and Skylar fail it?

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@ronc6927 the extension lowers the cap hit. Ur gonna have to pay a QB like this because it's the MARKET

@gr3415 12 дней назад

@@ronc6927then you're not very bright 😂

@Boogywoogiehimself 8 дней назад

Tua’s not a bad QB, Shady bringing up his success prior to McDaniels when Coach Flo didn’t want him there and our offense had absolutely no weapons. As a Dolphins fan my only gripe is our postseason success and against better teams especially. I feel like in a lot of those situations McDaniels was also getting out coached as well. The team as a whole needs to make the next step but Tua is definitely the biggest factor for us to win.

@thelaseringtrespiker4006 8 дней назад

as a dolphins fan i believe in tua getting paid but not at the pivotal top of the market. he’s a certified top 10 qb so his pay check should represent such, simple.

@arturoreyes5220 12 дней назад

As a dolphins fan I think Tua needs to prove it this year and no qb should be making 50mil when they haven’t won a superbowl let alone a playoff game.

@davoneallen4014 12 дней назад

If my team was going to make Tua the highest paid QB in the league I would be upset. He can’t lead a team when the talent is not elite.

@mariotubin 11 дней назад

Y'all, this doesn't have to be discussed cause of what Joy said; Next man up. Two words: Ryan Tannehill. If he can get the 'bag', then yeah... give him the money!

@carlosmoncada5535 12 дней назад

Tua gets the most hate it’s ridiculous 🥱

@jrcrit8843 12 дней назад

Aww I’m sure your mouth can make him feel better. Be sure to zip his pants up before getting off your knees

@Icanthearyouatall 11 дней назад

Definitely don’t it’s definitely Lamar Jackson but I can say that all quarterbacks of color get hated on and it has nothing to do with football

@byronsmith3152 11 дней назад

@@Icanthearyouatall Just top. You look foolish here. Mahomes is the most loved QB in the NFL. Lamar just won the league MVP. You want to talk about a QB that gets hate, Brock Purdy is his name.

@staceylee7957 8 дней назад

It’s not hate…he’s just not top tier, why should he get top tier money?

@Marcus30547 12 дней назад

If we have to have home field throughout the playoffs to win games then we have the WRONG QB wtf.

@andrewswing9917 12 дней назад

Nobody likes road games. In the NFL 89% blacks. Since, 1997, 76% of black athletes have admitted to not wanting to play in Denver and in Philadelphia because of oxygen tanks. Just to give you knowledge you didn't have.: Not just professional but I believe only middle schoolers like road games 🤣🤣

@VP20001 12 дней назад

@@andrewswing9917of course players don’t like playing in the cold but they still perform Tua did not perform well at all

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@@VP20001yea let's not count his 2 lineman out out the 9 out on defense..totally all Tua's fault..

@guiseppejacobs2357 12 дней назад

@@elgisthomas8791kid watch the games please, defense was actually good despite injuries especially in the redzone they weren’t an issue. Tua could barley complete screen passes and was not spreading the ball all around the field like he should’ve

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@@guiseppejacobs2357 defense was good vs the Titans? Allowing Levis to score at will? I watched every game..The entire team is at fault.

@africasupreme3 11 дней назад

Shady saying Daniel Jones shouldn't have never gotten paid is opposite of what he said last year, smh

@Archangelmychel 6 дней назад

You sign Tua for as little as possible for the next 2 to 3 years, but you do sign him.

@yahcrack 12 дней назад

Who are we to say what someone deserve? We aren’t writing the checks.

@kaaaiga 12 дней назад

Welcome to sports talk TV. If you have been living under a rock

@fwkira864 12 дней назад

Joy looks like that one image, where the lady says "We can do it"

@jmf9888 12 дней назад

Rosie The Riveter? Lmaoooo

@fwkira864 12 дней назад

@@jmf9888 yes

@theGQX7 12 дней назад

They argued to not pay Lamar Jackson, a former MVP and playoff game winner, top QB money, but say Tua deserves it. Highest form of hypocrisy in this segment

@AyeGreggyy 12 дней назад

My thing is if he don't believe tua is a top 5 QB. Who were the 5 QBs better than tua last year? Tua was literally in the conversations and had considerations for MVP and offensive player of the year. Make it make sense... 5:45

@jays8664 11 дней назад

Joy been telling us all year we have to see a body of work but says tua should get paid for one good season😂😂😂😂.

@champ2233killad 2 дня назад

Wouldn't that constitute as a body of work?

@Coco-qz7fn 12 дней назад

Famous last words .. we pay him because thats the next man up thats what we do.. ummm no lol

@joshprout1726 11 дней назад

Why does every next qb need to be highest paid? Especially with no track record to back up and justify that much money? There should be mid tier pay level for QBs like Tua. Or make the contract very incentive based. Playoffs and even Super Bowl wins is when the huge money hits the bank account

@TeamConnors 9 дней назад

Shady keeps saying that Tua was at the bottom of the barrel… but I don’t think that was right. Tua’s offensive line was bottom of the barrel. Tua’s head coach was bottom of the barrel. Tua’s offensive playmakers were bottom of the barrel. (Except for Waddle, who Tua fed to break the rookie receptions record.) Tua elevates players.

@tychildofthemosthigh4394 12 дней назад

Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ he is our only hope, just repent and have child like humble faith God bless!!!

@user-ts2jr5mf9x 6 дней назад

Amen

@felixolivares9129 12 дней назад

I am a bills fan please pay Tua...

@Oxilus_B 12 дней назад

😂😂

@LKS-M9323 12 дней назад

You do know yall done right?😂😂😂

12 дней назад

@LKS-M9323 they owned the dolphins and that will continue. Lol

@LKS-M9323 12 дней назад

Lol, they got some wins, but the video footage of Josh Allen crying and getting burped like a baby on Tuas shoulder will always be around. And that reign is over fam. Hope you enjoyed the ride it's gonna be awhile 🤣🤣🤣

12 дней назад

@@LKS-M9323 again they owned the dolphins . 6-1 the last 3 years 😂😂 let me know when pillow thrower tua wins the division lol. Tua 1-7 career vs the dolphins including a playoff L lol.

@tonyd7582 12 дней назад

It’s great that they all gloss over that with these salaries getting as high as they are it’ll be really hard for people to afford to go

@Archangelmychel 6 дней назад

17:03 what about halfway through the season when Tua was number one in the MVP race?

@user-zm7de7ec7d 12 дней назад

Tua is the 20th best qb so...good luck with that

@knowa745 12 дней назад

Yeah the 20th best QB is the guy who led the league in passing yards and completion percentage and was top 5 in most other categories

@user-zm7de7ec7d 12 дней назад

@@knowa745 do you know what yards after the catch is and how they can inflate a QB's passing stat?

@knowa745 12 дней назад

@@user-zm7de7ec7d Tua was second in yards per attempt, Mahomes, Purdy, Dak, T-Law, Goff and Stroud are a handful of QBs who had receivers with more yac than Tua’s

@KELAY24836 12 дней назад

Stop the cap😂 tua top 12. Top tier.

@user-zm7de7ec7d 12 дней назад

@@knowa745 You just listed off 6 quarterbacks who are all better than Tua. If you think Tua is worth 60 million, you would be fired in two years if you were the GM.

@quintinbracamontessital4525 12 дней назад

No, Tua, wich is a really god QB, with a really good team, top WR, great Coach, still can't beat good to great teams, I understand this show is pro player at all cost, sometimes too much and with no real arguments.

@theliverpoolking2259 12 дней назад

The only knock and criticism Tua should get is the playing in cold thing and really that's a Miami thing overall. Been an issue for us even before Tua T got there. Even in Marino's hay day.

@SayDatShiii... 12 дней назад

Tua led the league in passing yards.. the current highest paid Justin Herbert didn't even make the playoffs be serious..🤣🤣🤣

@quintinbracamontessital4525 12 дней назад

@@SayDatShiii... You need to be serius, Herbert is no the highest paid QB. still have over 30 TDs and almost 5k yards more than Tua, who has only 2 more more wins with 2 top 10, maybe top 5 WR, in a waaaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better team and HC. Yes Tua has leess games, so even after been beat down, Herbert has play more, is more durable; both have same play off record.

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

@@quintinbracamontessital4525yeaaaa lets not talk about the fact that Herbert had talent around him since he entered the league..Name Miami's starting 2 WRs in 2020 without Google

@S.Tua.Thousand 4 дня назад

So on one hand, Shay complements McDaniel and Shanahan for identifying and coaching talent.. but then disrespects them by telling them they shouldn’t stick with their vision?? They consider FA’s and trades year-round like every other team and they still choose their QB. In Miami’s case, it produced the #1 offense. That roster just improved more than people realize. Making a change and jeopardizing that momentum would be silly, considering the available alternatives. So stop taking about Mahomes because he’s not available.

@roderickburrell2060 11 дней назад

People keep acting like you "win with mobile qb's" the last 5 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks- Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady, Nick Foles, and Peyton Manning. The only one of those who could be classified as a mobile qb was Patrick Mahomes, and he is an excellent pocket passer as well. Also, it doesn't matter that Brock Purdy was "Mr Irrelevant". The scouts obviously got their evaluation wrong just like Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round. You aren't finding Tua's replacement in the 6th or 7th round.

@randomupdates4013 12 дней назад

I’m not an Acho hater but the balance undeniable. Joy is a good moderator but so so panelist, so helps her skill utilization when is moderator. Dave brings a journalist skill, stats and can talk positional scheme and draft/trade analysis. Shady and James different personalities but former players to bring personal experience. 🔥

@miamiman24 12 дней назад

Shady was off on things dogging on Tua for his first two seasons, which Tua still had a winning record and close to playoffs. Tua didn't ball out because first, his rookie season he should've been red shirt. He was still healing from his serious hip injury. His throwing didn't seem to come to form until his third season. The offensive line was horrible Tua's first two seasons, it was ranked near last his second season. They had no rbs. PS guys basically. He had parker and nobody his rookie season which parker spent most of his time on IR anyway. His rookie season he had Waddle but that's hit because parker never could stay healthy. Horrible o line still, no run game and a coach that didn't support him at all. It was something people were waiting to see if and when Tua actually had some protection, some wrs and an actual run game and coach that will work with him And look what happens, he actually gets talent and he goes off

@VP20001 12 дней назад

@@miamiman24get off your knees

@PeteZam 12 дней назад

lmao, tua isnt even worth 30 million a year. he is literally the reason they will never win anything, and they will be nothing but a bunch of break dancing regular season champs that get bounced in the 1st round of the playoffs every year. this is one of the dumbest questions this show has ever asked

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

Funny..til he got there..they haven't made the playoffs in over 20 years..but yell us more you seem to don't know

@khaleel9508 12 дней назад

@@elgisthomas8791 Lies

@champ2233killad 2 дня назад

@@khaleel9508He's literally telling the truth. Does Tua "deserve" 50M+ per year? No. I'm a Dolphins fan but I'm a football fan first so I'm not being biased but Tua is the next man up. In a perfect world Tua would take a deal that 43-48M per year BUT realistically he doesn't have to. Imagine he doesn't get a deal done and he has a undeniable MVP season (and don't say its not possible cause it'll be obvious hate to say that considering he was a MVP candidate up until week 9 or 10) then Miami finds themselves in a hole bigger than they already are in

@LeaveItToTheWolves 9 дней назад

Need to get Tua paid whatever it is to get him extended so they can get Waddle, Phillips, and Holland extended. Those are 3 core players and Tua’s contract extension will go a long way in freeing up the cap room to extend those players. Sometimes one contract can get done to benefit the team in terms other ways.

@terryb3102 12 дней назад

for NFL QB's, when it comes to compensation, you do not get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.

@Oxilus_B 12 дней назад

I could of sworn Skylar Thompson (3rd string QB) almost led the Dolphins to a playoff victory over the Bills in 2022. Fast forward a year later and Tua got blown out by the Chiefs only leading the offense to ONE TD. Definitely not worth highest paid QB money.

@Journeyhvac 12 дней назад

How many starters played on the offensive line, where was Chubb , Phillips, that team was devastated with injuries

@LKS-M9323 12 дней назад

Skylar did his thing for sure but comparing that game to the other doesn't fit. 2nd coldest game in history players got burns and sick and all the skill positions were injured.

@Oxilus_B 12 дней назад

@@Journeyhvac Tua was sacked only 21 times in 2022 and 20 in 2021 seasons and still got hurt. Burrow was sacked 51 times in 2021 (superbowl appearance) and 41 in 2022 (AFC championship appearance). Burrow only played in three extra games then Tua did in both of those seasons. Tua gets no offensive line excuse because he rarely gets sacked.

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

Correction..the healthy defense did and Buffalo had half their team out..go read Skylars stat line guy..Remind us how many TDs skylar scored vs the Jets that same year..

@gr3415 12 дней назад

@@Oxilus_BBurrow has had 3 season ending injuries in 4 years 😂

@d8l835 9 дней назад

You're right Shady. Even Nathan Peterman would throw for 5k yards if he had tyreek and waddle.... Its crazy that giving your qb weapons is looked at as a crutch now....wtf are we talking about anymore?

@mukuzChannel 10 дней назад

Added Goff under Mcvay but no Rodgers under LaFleur..hmmm

@sonseed7541 12 дней назад

Nah, he chokes in the playoffs over and over, especially in the cold.

@brandonguido933 12 дней назад

He’s played one playoff game and it was the 3rd coldest game in the 100 year history of the NFL lol

@brandonguido933 12 дней назад

Pretty sure your thinking of Dak son son

@freddygaulman5493 12 дней назад

@@brandonguido933lol always about dak

@BigKahunaKai711 12 дней назад

lol so Allen chokes over and over then 🤦🏽‍♂️

@SayDatShiii... 12 дней назад

@@BigKahunaKai711 and over and over and over and over..

@Niall404 12 дней назад

Tua is Jimmy G 2.0

@HybridEA1 12 дней назад

Jimmy was never as good as Tua. Not even close

@MixMaxim 3 дня назад

“don’t forget who tua was before mcdaniel and tyreek arrived.” so are we paying tua for who he was with little to no help or for who he is right now with his current team? that don’t make sense at all.

@LuisRayLewis 12 дней назад

4 years - $150 Mill, 50 Mill Guaranteed

@francisikwueme1688 12 дней назад

$150m/3yrs fully guaranteed makes sense and fair and if he proves himself in 3 years give him an even bigger pay day

@blackcat513358 12 дней назад

If you advocate for Dak, you should advocate for Tua. Dak is regular season Tarzan and post season Jane. And he's had loaded teams.

@Lloyd28 12 дней назад

Post session Jane 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@DC4L1991 12 дней назад

Nobody advocates for Dak, stop with that nonsense.

@blackcat513358 12 дней назад

@DC4L1991 Lol. You sure about that? I hear these same people say you gotta pay Dak ALL the time. Most say that and a few don't.

@jessimong7690 8 дней назад

Did shady forget that Tua only improves every year since being in the league they dolphins have had 4 winning seasons since Tua. Like the Tua hate is ridiculous

@Understandme44 11 дней назад

The issue is no matter the talent the next qb to sign will always get high salary then the previous signee. It’s crazy. Look how Kurt Cousins keeps fleecing teams with guaranteed money and hasn’t won anything yet 😅

@kinggeorges5491 9 дней назад

Y’all be hating on Joy but she has great takes and literally makes sense.

@glazarus1985 7 дней назад

Shady just loves to hear himself, Tua was never a bottom QB. He had a coach actively sabotaging him, what was Josh Allen before Diggs? What was Jalen Hurts before AJ & Smith? It’s a team sport, no QB has ever won a championship by himself. You put Mahomes on the Browns with no Andy Reid he’s out of the league by now. It takes the right combo to win, you get a good combo you ride it until it falls apart.

@jackoneill1336 5 дней назад

Every time I try to give this show a chance I instantly regret it. Making Tua the highest paid QB is insane

@ooty2071 11 дней назад

Skills apart, I wonder how they don’t talk about Burrows injuries just as much. Dudes missed 2 full seasons now

@trashastrash9722 11 дней назад

tua had a coach try to get rid of him and was in and out with different coordinators before mcdaniel got there. he did fine and was a winner. remember how the dolphins look without tua

@user-ug8iu9wg4r 5 дней назад

4:30 is the best take. It does bring security to your team to get your QB on lock. You can play with the salary cap implications too.

@DrobeTV 9 дней назад

DAVE IS WHAT THIS SHOW NEEDED LOVE THE GUY

@eddurriii8214 9 дней назад

Shady getting mad n pointing out how he’s getting paid for one year but props up Hurts for doing the same lol

@malikmobley5466 6 дней назад

Shady be sounding like a hater. Reek had his two best seasons with tua but it’s reek making tua better 😂😂😂

@bankheadjr88 10 дней назад

Carson wentz back in the day got 100 mill. Kirk cousins just got 180 mill and you can't tell me neither of them are better than Tua or could do what he does in that offense. Stop hating that man is a good qb. Is he top 5 no but still top 12. He should be paid accordingly ijs.

@jeanguerrier3101 7 дней назад

Remember we saw other QBs when Tua was out. The Dolphins offense was terrible.

@personalpersonal7973 10 дней назад

1000% agree with Shady, no doubt

@KCocteau15 12 дней назад

Tua is a year or two from being a starting backup.

@elgisthomas8791 12 дней назад

Womp womp

@TuatagaloaTeo 12 дней назад

What are you talking about ...he had a hip injury the first 2 years. He had lead the league last year in passing yards. Top 5 in every QB category...Ran a high-powered offense... Quit whinning.