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DOES UNBANNING A THIRD OF THE FORBIDDEN LIST RUIN YUGIOH? (spoiler: yes) 

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@Zero-eo8pq
@Zero-eo8pq 3 года назад
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and Orcust's ability to brick, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
Omega Lul
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
Weird analogy but funny
@defeatman8660
@defeatman8660 3 года назад
Probably
@orcrustyboi15
@orcrustyboi15 3 года назад
For those of you that don't know the actual quote here is "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe."
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@orcrustyboi15 Gotcha )
@SirEmanon
@SirEmanon 3 года назад
Spoiler alert: 1:23:11 epitomizes this format in one single frame. Why did I agree to play in this tournament LOL
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
Close to perfect
@BlueflameKing1
@BlueflameKing1 3 года назад
It is the most cursed thing ever and I love it. Hail to our one true king, Master Peace.
@scizor285
@scizor285 3 года назад
I died laughing at this part.
@codycarney2311
@codycarney2311 3 года назад
What was the card placed in the spell/trap zone? I know Mystic Mine and Amano-iwato.
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@codycarney2311 Mine plus MP is full blown cancerous
@joshpearl1888
@joshpearl1888 3 года назад
“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
Omega lul
@pascalsimioli6777
@pascalsimioli6777 3 года назад
@@wickederebus sure, link me those essays please and I'll show them to philosophy teachers.
@WhoStoleMyNachos
@WhoStoleMyNachos 3 года назад
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN! WHEN WILL YOU LEARN, THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@wickederebus lol
@rektenx
@rektenx 3 года назад
YOU FREAKIN' FREAKS!!!
@squigin3380
@squigin3380 2 года назад
SONICS ARMS ARE NOT BLUE!
@lucaslennan3356
@lucaslennan3356 3 года назад
Crazy what happens when you say: "These tools are good but not crazy by themselves. Have as many as you want!" And forget they can play ALL of them. Literally created a draw droll or lose format and unlimited called by the grave. Loved the video by the way hope you do the same next banlist.
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 3 года назад
and thats kids why card which dont have hopt are will most like get limited
@ComfyBasilisk
@ComfyBasilisk 3 года назад
it's funny how reasonable "master peace is fine it's just worse dragoon" seems as a statement before you consider that true draco gets to play the monarchs erupt, huh
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 3 года назад
Lithium build of TD doesnt even have Erupt. A searchable one side skill drain. So he lose to Orcust and Madolche
@buddbrown6858
@buddbrown6858 3 года назад
yeah a 2950 ATK towers with a pop aided by a one sided skill drain is cursed and should be prevented at all costs
@Rairiky
@Rairiky 3 года назад
And mine and iwato and... It's just cancer with a win con lol
@turtle-bot3049
@turtle-bot3049 3 года назад
Not to mention it gets to play all of the most busted draw spells ever created (demise, desires, into the void) on-top of their own draw spells as well.
@ogeid772
@ogeid772 3 года назад
I dont see how this statement could be considered reasonable at all tho, just because there's a stronger card doesnt mean Master Peace is weaker or even more manageable, it just means Dragoon should be banned just like Dragoon
@ungulatemanalpha
@ungulatemanalpha 3 года назад
the funniest part of all this is that the real reason master peace is too good is because you can tribute summon it LOL
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
Quick effect pop
@cooldes4593
@cooldes4593 3 года назад
So many boards of negates and stopping special summons, Master Peace: haha tribe summon go brrrr
@animationtv426
@animationtv426 2 года назад
@@ssengageisop3952 at a cost of banshing your cards ui cant get back
@animationtv426
@animationtv426 2 года назад
@@ssengageisop3952 DPE does the same without cost
@therealchaosblade7269
@therealchaosblade7269 3 года назад
"Do you seriously think anyone is going to lose to True Draco in 2021?" - Joseph Rothschild AKA MBT, 2/21/2021
@kaifulbright5241
@kaifulbright5241 3 года назад
droll & lock bird: the movie
@ibrahimjuwara9441
@ibrahimjuwara9441 3 года назад
I dont see how you can be trash, just draw droll its easy
@simonpetrikov3992
@simonpetrikov3992 3 года назад
Well if they had some lore it could actually be a good movie
@Ben-pf9sw
@Ben-pf9sw 3 года назад
D. D. Crow 2: Electric Boogaloo
@maxinator2869
@maxinator2869 3 года назад
I still hope he produces another sequel to this.
@CrazyWizza
@CrazyWizza 3 года назад
As the Dino player, you got to give me credit for playing through 4+ D.D. Crows vs Bird Up! Let's not talk about that Game 1 though.
@rotjochem5756
@rotjochem5756 3 года назад
You fought well my primal brother
@SkyllerSY
@SkyllerSY 3 года назад
dino dna
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 3 года назад
You did really well, and with some of the most atrocious hands imaginable. Games like yours are the reason I don't bother with hand traps (except effect veiler and ash blossom because they double as a combo piece) and instead rely on board nukers like Sphere Mode, Evenly Matched, Dark Ruler and good old Dark Hole.
@DerrylHopkins
@DerrylHopkins 2 года назад
Dinasours
@mosca6982
@mosca6982 3 года назад
I think we learned why these draw spells are limited
@quintonclothier6171
@quintonclothier6171 3 года назад
The Divine Winds in Bird-Up was actually really cool, a shame we didn't get to see it. Negate with Apex while it's on board, and you get Barrier statue out for free. you get to have your cake, and eat it too.
@divinityd662
@divinityd662 3 года назад
"I may have gone too far in a few places"
@rinpg3333
@rinpg3333 3 года назад
As the bird up player who watched the Draco Player and knew that the only way I lost was if monarch's erupt resolved, I elected to play around master peace in g3 instead of the skill drain that they found all 4 copies of after firing a pot of desires. Truly, master peace is the problem
@wazzledog1007
@wazzledog1007 3 года назад
I haven't played in over a decade, but you made bird up look like so much fun that I'm going to try to relearn the game.
@rinpg3333
@rinpg3333 3 года назад
@@wazzledog1007 maaaaaaybe wait until the banlist tho, VFD is a very unfun card for bird up lol
@SeaPhoenix01
@SeaPhoenix01 3 года назад
Man, you rock. I love all of your games
@assuming9735
@assuming9735 3 года назад
"I knew the only way I lost was if my opponent, who has incredible draw power, found a 4-of in their deck, yet I chose not to play around said 4-of and instead played around a card that I am currently saying is not an issue."
@rinpg3333
@rinpg3333 3 года назад
Yes! That is what I am saying
@spiralabbysrundown6033
@spiralabbysrundown6033 3 года назад
That thumbnail is a massive mood.
@melffyrabby1009
@melffyrabby1009 3 года назад
Indeed
@toomas5948
@toomas5948 3 года назад
An accurate representation of life during current times
@KingVerus
@KingVerus 3 года назад
@@toomas5948 An accurate rep of life in general.
@achronos178
@achronos178 3 года назад
Honestly I'm happy about this. Kinda like throwing everyone in the ocean with guns and telling them to figure it out.
@assuming9735
@assuming9735 3 года назад
The big take aways from this video: -Droll and Called By both fucking suck for spectators. -VW needs VFD to be even half relevant. -Master Peace is a good card(who knew!)
@has199
@has199 3 года назад
VW post VFD is still scary good, the same hands that make double VFD end on a hand loop for 2-4 and Crystal Wing and potential Chuche
@assuming9735
@assuming9735 3 года назад
@@has199 The issue is that the deck doesn't rely on opening hands good enough to make double VFD. Most VW hands will end on 1 VFD, Chuche, and follow up. Opening double VFD is just nice when you can.
@sk4p3g04t
@sk4p3g04t 3 года назад
just wait for that new rank 9 deer to come out and even if (when) VFD gets hit VW will still be basically at 100%
@SkyllerSY
@SkyllerSY 3 года назад
konami doesn't really care. They still need to sell some more VW, so i can't wait to have more turn skip VFD and VW mirror matches on finals for another format.
@construct8295
@construct8295 3 года назад
@@sk4p3g04t it’s been out lmao. it’s not a good card and doesn’t replace vfd even barely
@Xelxa93
@Xelxa93 3 года назад
can we at least agree magical explosion at 3 was somewhat a mistake
@homerman76
@homerman76 3 года назад
Especially with added draw/discard power in One Day of Peace, Card Destruction and Into the Void
@assuming9735
@assuming9735 3 года назад
It's yugioh zoomerism that would lead anyone to think that a card like Magical Explosion is fine at 3, especially if you choose to put Into The Void at 3 in the same format.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 года назад
@Najawin you can make the infinite Elma loop with any 2 warriors. Isolde can search on summon the lvl 1 Ignoble and then send 4 including Elma to special out gearfired iron Knight. Then discard the lvl 1 ignoble and you can get the Elma back. All you need is any way to gain advantage from this and you have the most consistent infinite loop in the game
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 года назад
@Najawin you could maybe stall for time? Make Isolde send black pendant with Isolde as well make Charles, equip Pendant, blow it up, deal 500, then loop Elma for time? Is there a tournament rule about such infinite loops?
@peanutbuttereggdirt1
@peanutbuttereggdirt1 3 года назад
@@frankwest5388 yes, there is. You would be expected to demonstrate the loop once, then say "i perform the loop 1,000 times". You wouldnt be allowed to just perform the loop 1000 times to use up time.
@Sp3llmen
@Sp3llmen 3 года назад
my only takeaway from this, is that droll is the only thing holding back broken decks without the banlist
@FBI.sMostUnwanted
@FBI.sMostUnwanted 3 года назад
True Chadco: "You get what you f*cking deserve".
@Attilathefun87
@Attilathefun87 3 года назад
As a MTG player with only a basic understanding of YGO because of stuff like the history and progression series I find this so interesting to watch. Much more than competitive MTG formats have been for a long time.
@thebokchoy6854
@thebokchoy6854 3 года назад
"the aoe skill drain" well if it was single target it wouldn't exactly be a skill drain anymore
@Luka0Kaito
@Luka0Kaito 3 года назад
Haven't played yugioh in awhile, but you're the first person I've watched that makes these replays really fun to watch!
@11epicguy22
@11epicguy22 3 года назад
Even MY awful Infernity decklist would've been more entertaining than that travesty of a Cyberstein, what a shitshow
@rescuerex7031
@rescuerex7031 3 года назад
I don't even know what the deck was trying to do
@11epicguy22
@11epicguy22 3 года назад
@@rescuerex7031 i have no idea, I really just dont know what their end goal was at this point
@zachrowe1511
@zachrowe1511 3 года назад
The gem-Knight player wasn’t playing verte anaconda, de-fusion, or the third copy of lady lapis lazuli. That’s how you get the rest of the combo, but I’m hoping that the pilot was afraid of Nibiru and made apollousa. It makes me want to try a tournament like this in the future
@andrewhunter596
@andrewhunter596 3 года назад
I find it funny that MBT is mostly apologizing for just Masterpeace and Malicious, when he also allowed nearly every deep draw card/extender under the sun to make their respective decks so consistent and powerful in the first place. Dark Warrior and True Draco showing yet again why their decks should never be allowed "nice things".
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 3 года назад
until the gmae curve gets so high we get our damn nice things back
@callmekermy9946
@callmekermy9946 3 года назад
Draco's only good because of floodgates and don't even try to change my mind
@olyviermonteau4300
@olyviermonteau4300 2 года назад
@@callmekermy9946 they are good because of their quick effects and there's only three of them that are usually played so they have SO MUCH space it's like they have a discount black hole in their deck.
@animationtv426
@animationtv426 2 года назад
@@callmekermy9946 facts
@dracog0322
@dracog0322 3 года назад
Dude this is the first video of yours I watch outside The History of Yu-Gi-Oh!, you are an awesome commentator!!! I don't know even half of the meta and still got a lot of fun and understood the whole thing
@richardthepastamancer6619
@richardthepastamancer6619 3 года назад
they don't call him the fun-slaying king for no reason
@knowing1399
@knowing1399 3 года назад
Honestly it was the Monarch's Erupt who was fun keeping. Master Peace was just laughing in their faces during it lol.
@richardthepastamancer6619
@richardthepastamancer6619 3 года назад
@@knowing1399 nobody is questioning erupt but masterpiece can be immune to it so you get to quick play pop whoever is staring at him which you can't do with other true draco
@cheriflat9668
@cheriflat9668 3 года назад
@@richardthepastamancer6619 you know that erupt is already one sided? It doesn't affect any tribute summoned monster
@richardthepastamancer6619
@richardthepastamancer6619 3 года назад
@@cheriflat9668 Erupt it's not one sided, it doesn't effect tribute monsters, which is not the same, besides i was referring to the pop part, not the uneffected.... There's also the fact that it's much more difficult to activate the other three TD without the opponent monster effects.
@Uchiha_Sasuke209
@Uchiha_Sasuke209 3 года назад
@@richardthepastamancer6619 doesn't matter imo the small TD's purpose is not to get lost to the opponent's card advantage but with erupt they cant build up the advantage thus you dont need their effects
@phyzyks
@phyzyks 3 года назад
I'm the Orcust player. My fellow Orcust Chads: I'm sorry.
@CrazyWizza
@CrazyWizza 3 года назад
As the Dino player, it happens to the best of us.
@potatothegrate7666
@potatothegrate7666 3 года назад
Meh, the deck needs engine cards like harp, not dangers.
@liviousgameplay1755
@liviousgameplay1755 3 года назад
Somehow deep in my heart, I knew that I was losing those channel points, but it was worth it to support you. You did good, kid.
@phyzyks
@phyzyks 3 года назад
@@liviousgameplay1755 I felt so, so bad seeing everyone bet on me and I couldn't warn them
@morenostalgiasupport1817
@morenostalgiasupport1817 3 года назад
It's ok man, it's just good to see orcust anywhere these days. Just wait until they give us harp horror back without banning union carrier...
@BUNJIN40K
@BUNJIN40K 3 года назад
I do think you have a very legitimate misunderstanding of what actually makes true draco good. Even without master peace i think that deck would have done well. It just works on an axis that a lot of decks arent prepared for. Also, yes having 4 copies of skill drain is actually problematic.
@Cjelex
@Cjelex 3 года назад
I mean, to be fair to Mr Bee Tee, as he always says in untested metas, control decks will always shine and that's what happened with True Draco. Honestly from what was shown of it, I would put it at around the same power level as the Guru Dragoon decks that have been floating around.
@toadfan64
@toadfan64 3 года назад
Exactly. It can take some game, and maybe a random top, but it isn't going to be a threat to the top tier decks really.
@ryanjohnson3392
@ryanjohnson3392 3 года назад
The problem is u can through a few Draco monsters and the traps (no spells or diagrams) in a eldlich/zoo deck and suddenly u have trap pops and master peice on top of eldlich repeatability.
@Rairiky
@Rairiky 3 года назад
I'd put it a bit higher than that b/c of the drawing power and removal but yes,I feel in real tournaments decks like these do worse than online b/c they suck against rogue and they need to go first. On the other hand,true draco is very unique as a control deck and they would shape the meta no doubt
@Mekmassimochannel
@Mekmassimochannel 3 года назад
We learned something today. That Skill Drains are good. Therefore, allow me to pitch my idea: Litmus Doom Swordsman Erupt Turbo. We just need to find a Tribute summon that makes sense to run
@thekittenfreakify
@thekittenfreakify 3 года назад
Vanity's fiend/ruler
@cansan9403
@cansan9403 3 года назад
Jinzo
@exileddarkness2683
@exileddarkness2683 3 года назад
I’m still surprised that in the last True Draco game they still got Diagram AFTER using Desires. What a rip
@Veon97
@Veon97 3 года назад
God I loved how True Draco played, that's my freaking jam. Unfortunately it'll never be, but DAMN.
@planetofkryk
@planetofkryk 3 года назад
"master peace is the problem, 10/10" Meanwhile, the monarchs erupt: "yep, yep, that's true"
@lampsonmcstand6150
@lampsonmcstand6150 3 года назад
I mean erupt doesnt do anything without masterpeace
@kuro5248
@kuro5248 3 года назад
@@lampsonmcstand6150 the last game tells something different
@CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
@CrimsonKobaNakirigumi 3 года назад
Erupt is at 3 and nobody plays Draco.
@kuro5248
@kuro5248 3 года назад
@@CrimsonKobaNakirigumi well that's true because the tower monster is missing. If you got problems with errupt you can still destroy the draco monsters with traps and spells. If you summon master peace with spells and traps your opponent got nothing against it and that's a huge problem.
@planetofkryk
@planetofkryk 3 года назад
Dunno, have you guys tried to play true draco without any floodgates BUT with masterpiece and dinomight at three? I mean, yes, nobody play true draco now that it has 3 erupts, but it's the same as monarch. Erupt is why the deck wins, with or without masterpiece, and if you summon masterpiece but you have no erupt and no other unfair stuff to help it... Puff, masterpiece is a useless 2950 attack monster that any competent deck can kill with ease
@davidkiller61
@davidkiller61 3 года назад
MBT make this format last a little longer pls. I need to see more of the chaos. It's obviously not okay and I love it.
@YeahTheDuckweed
@YeahTheDuckweed 3 года назад
divine wind: *is activated, like, once* bird up: *comes this close to winning anyway lmao it took master fucking peace to stop them* how did we not see a single dragoon all tournament btw
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 3 года назад
No matter how hype it is when burn ftk decks win just because they need the insane luck Konami will never let them live because of what they are
@coffeedudeable
@coffeedudeable 3 года назад
Lol the cyber stien deck didn't need luck just needed someone who knows how to play the deck lol. Supposed to make isolde with 2 of the defenders. Was 0 reason to pass he had ftk just didn't know how to do it lol
@llamaryder1
@llamaryder1 3 года назад
@@coffeedudeable maybe he drew too many equips?
@olyviermonteau4300
@olyviermonteau4300 2 года назад
@@llamaryder1 discard fodder be like:
@dgayle2348
@dgayle2348 3 года назад
He was talking that good shit about true dracos in that last vid LMAOOOO NOW LOOK
@plantland7205
@plantland7205 3 года назад
I actually think the Magical Explosion deck could have ripped through the entire tournament if it wasn't for true draco
@Skyrim896
@Skyrim896 Год назад
Nah, his problem wasn't True Draco. His problem was that he was greedy enough to use Allure of Darkness without having a DARK monster in hand, not once, but TWICE.
@zacharycannaday6075
@zacharycannaday6075 Год назад
@@Skyrim896 Right? Like 7 card hands that can't possibly be the only play
@knowing1399
@knowing1399 3 года назад
I think the Yugioh gods blessed that True Draco player in an attempt to keep Master Peace on the list. His hands were the hottest I've ever seen, and a vast majority of his opponent's hands where war crimes with how awful they looked.
@wazzledog1007
@wazzledog1007 3 года назад
Hardly understood anything, but it was hype. Bird up has inspired me to try and learn modern yugioh.
@windknife
@windknife 3 года назад
Playing through all of Legacy of the Duelist actually help me catch up since I left during the GX era. It has every card up to Ignition Assault.
@joekimlee9057
@joekimlee9057 3 года назад
Didn’t watch the video yet, but I bet the orcust player somehow draw the fridge without even playing it
@kreatorkeon4478
@kreatorkeon4478 3 года назад
On no Joseph is down. *Activates Monster Reborn* Anyways....
@samedwards3186
@samedwards3186 3 года назад
Here so early the video literally will not load gang
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 3 года назад
The video doesn’t load for me
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 3 года назад
It loads now
@queensblade5013
@queensblade5013 3 года назад
@Amine G i was thinking the samexD
@FloPe97
@FloPe97 3 года назад
That one singular Fire Emblem fan at 1:06:40 talking about the Thracia 776 of endboards, i see you, i respect you, great person.
@superkingbig
@superkingbig 3 года назад
we learned that skill drain is good, without the erupt the true draco would have lost... so there is the problem
@clayxros576
@clayxros576 3 года назад
Pretty much
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@clayxros576 Draw engine also)
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 3 года назад
Please don't take erupt from me, monarch players have so little left
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@kyleyuen245 lol
@clayxros576
@clayxros576 3 года назад
@@kyleyuen245 If your deck is nothing without Skilldrain, then you shouldn't have it.
@slifer9914
@slifer9914 3 года назад
I just want to acknowledge the fact that the Draco player got Diagram (a 1-of), Demise (a 1-of), Terraforming (a 1-of), and 2+ Erupts EVERY FUCKING GAME DESPITE DESIRES
@RepTheoAndFriends
@RepTheoAndFriends 3 года назад
I think with all the unhits True Draco became actually a good deck. Not just Master Peace but the player used a lot of stuff.
@serenahaugland350
@serenahaugland350 Год назад
This i think is a good exhibiltion of how Master was a really good surgical hit. True Draco can do a lot of stupid bullshit, plenty of it absolutely currently playable outside this exercise, but without access to a toolbox extra deck it doesn't really have much it can end on that can't be relatively easily dealt with, and without that it doesn't really have much of a way to win since it can't really OTK. Master Peace, while only moderately powerful in a vacuum, is too good because it actually gives it that. People in the comments mocked MBT for saying that he was wrong about Master Peace but his comment at the end about it giving the deck a win con is imo dead on. Even the raw draw power isn't enough, as we can see from how lax MD is on draw power and outside festivals True Draco isn't even really rogue. Without Master it just can't really do that much but with it it can be very scary. It helps that even WITH that draw power the Draco pilot got insanely lucky at points and their opponents insanely unlucky, but that's Yugioh.
@MomirViggwilv
@MomirViggwilv 3 года назад
Coming back to this after the most recent Progression Series episode. Because if this didn't teach MBT to have a healthy fear for Master Peace, maybe that will.
@impendio
@impendio 3 года назад
Give Orcust Harp back and then _maybe..._ -Sincerely, an Orcust player
@ibrahimjuwara9441
@ibrahimjuwara9441 3 года назад
And open knightmare for all 3 games
@impendio
@impendio 3 года назад
@@ibrahimjuwara9441 no, no, open wand, cymbal, babel and handtraps
@timfromit172
@timfromit172 3 года назад
@@impendio So here me out, I know it sounds crazy BUT the solution for bricks is quite simple in fact. Play two fridge, you might say that this hurts consistency but I ask you: What hurts more? Having full combo and fridge or simply not having combo? On a more serious note: In newer builds with scrap dinosaur running two fridges is actually viable because it either helps with not bricking or is used in a relatively consistent high ceiling combo, so I at least could justify doing so.
@Altergeist
@Altergeist 3 года назад
Lmao bold of u to assume u won't draw double fridge. Plus double fridge makes it more likely that I'll draw fridge
@PaladinfffLeeroy
@PaladinfffLeeroy 3 года назад
@@timfromit172 You underestimate our power to brick on double fridge.
@TheMightyGiantDad
@TheMightyGiantDad 3 года назад
Yeahhhh, bringing back both into the void and one day of peace MIGHT have been a mistake...
@mr.m4302
@mr.m4302 3 года назад
I like this ban list format: forces everyone to use the typhoon cards in the main deck again.
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 3 года назад
Every once in a while I rewatch this video to remind me why I play true draco
@WhiteWolfRQ
@WhiteWolfRQ 3 года назад
TBH if a there were any eldlich in this tournament true draco would have lost instantly EDIT: what I’ve learned from the replies is that true draco apocalypse was the real problem card
@james2944
@james2944 3 года назад
Yeah putting gem knight in over Lich seems really memey
@WhiteWolfRQ
@WhiteWolfRQ 3 года назад
@@james2944 gem knight was put in because twitch chat voted for it over other decks
@james2944
@james2944 3 года назад
@@WhiteWolfRQ listening to twitch chat was the first mistake
@CSCH69
@CSCH69 3 года назад
and why ?
@malareon
@malareon 3 года назад
Litch draco sounds like a fun deck tho.
@ProBAgar
@ProBAgar 3 года назад
So no one considered playing 3 Cyber stein with a Dragoon in the extra deck as the 7-9th copies of called by the grave?
@kreatorkeon4478
@kreatorkeon4478 3 года назад
You really gonna think it’s okay to pay 5k to summon Dragoon? 👀 And Hope Cyber Stein don’t get negated?🧐
@kreatorkeon4478
@kreatorkeon4478 3 года назад
My bad, forgot the Psychic set up that cheats the life point payment, but still you getting to it is hard.
@ProBAgar
@ProBAgar 3 года назад
@@kreatorkeon4478 Paying 5k LP to start off a Drytron combo that doesn't need a normal and ends on Ultimateness + eva is very worth it. Also none of the hand traps in the meta rn stop Cyber Stein. Ash, Belle, meister, Droll, none of them interact with it, and no one plays Impermanence or Veiler
@kreatorkeon4478
@kreatorkeon4478 3 года назад
@@ProBAgar that’s a high risk for high reward type of scenario. You better win if you use Cyber Stein, or respectfully take the L for the game.
@ProBAgar
@ProBAgar 3 года назад
@@kreatorkeon4478 I mean it's not unheard of to pay that much LP for a powerful effect in a combo, and that's a pretty good use of those LP
@haydenz0
@haydenz0 3 года назад
Monarchs Erupt was the problem card. This is why floodgates ruin the game. I would face floodgateless True Draco with Master Peace any day over floodgates.
@SaintoftheHonest
@SaintoftheHonest 3 года назад
I probably would have done a Danger Dark World build that was FTK orientated. You didn't touch any infinite burn cards, so just go plus off your Card Des' and keep deckthinning w/ more upstarts through the additional Into The Voids & Dangers. E-Tele + Research Lab + Saryuja means you have 4 summons, so long as at least 2 are Psychic, so 1 Fran Ken, 2 Soartroopers and then use the Saryuja's special summon effect - coz that does more than just draw, just as AFD did more than just search a field spell.
@tompayne3200
@tompayne3200 3 года назад
Remember that time they put Trish to 3 and then immediately put it back to one next list. Good times
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947 3 года назад
Nothing more infuriating than true draco opening the limited card of demise and diagram EVERY FUCKING GAME
@shawnjavery
@shawnjavery 3 года назад
Its frustrating yeah but not having to deal with diagram after getting rid of it the first time makes the match up a lot easier.
@thefaz3744
@thefaz3744 3 года назад
Yeah of course he does; he has 3 Into The Void, 1 Chicken Game, 2 Duality, Terraforming, 2 Desires, Set Rotation, 3 Heritages. Into The Void was what broke the deck, not Master Peace; it gave consistent access to Diagram and Monarch's Erupt
@collingarrison4467
@collingarrison4467 3 года назад
This shows that masterpeace isn't the problem. It's having access to four skill drains and about 100 draw spells to find them. Guess you should have limited erupt so they would have to play monarch bricks to find it.
@rescuerex7031
@rescuerex7031 3 года назад
I think Storm Forth is also relevant to a degree and Masterpiece just being a Tribute monster
@james2944
@james2944 3 года назад
I mean the OCG has skill drain at 3 and they don't see anything like this. It's mostly used by Lich
@dhanyl2725
@dhanyl2725 3 года назад
Master peace is searchable though... Also this is why you don't make true draco even close to remotely playable (master peace might not do anything by itself this tournament but the deck appreciated the additional names regardless, the trap was also unlimited after all) unless you want to bring erupt abuse and mystic mine amano...
@kotkafer2292
@kotkafer2292 3 года назад
Yeah why dont we Just all of the good generic Mechanic Support Just so that 1 Card of one of the Most hated Decks ever can come Back. I Love playing the Deck and even i hate it.
@collingarrison4467
@collingarrison4467 3 года назад
@@dhanyl2725 true. But after looking back there was a lack of backrow removal in the sides. I guess in a tournament where so many strategies are legal you don't expect to see too many control matches, which is probably what gave draco the upper hand. I think in this format if we were to get masterpeace back we could adapt our sides to it and play more backrow removal. I believe it was how fast the event was put together that gave the draco player the upper hand since all they had to do was make room for 2 master and 3 into the void.
@aquasphere4390
@aquasphere4390 3 года назад
Man mbt really turns into a auctioneer when someone plays combo
@NARFNra
@NARFNra 3 года назад
What is with the dude in the Pend vs Dark Warrior match like "you can't mess with the banlist is this just for fun"... Like no dawg, MBT is the god of Yugioh and this tournament will have wide reaching consequences we are powerless to stop lol anyway shout out to time wizard of tomorrow, the true winner of this tournament
@shadowmetroid18
@shadowmetroid18 3 года назад
Do NOT touch my Droll while Drytron is in the format.
@StormCrownSr
@StormCrownSr 3 года назад
But it ruins empty jar.
@Jack-kn1mr
@Jack-kn1mr 3 года назад
This was way too small a sample size to really get any kind of read on things. Do a couple 64 or 128 man tournaments and you'd probably get a better view of things. 1 16 player tournament is just not enough, some decks could have just got rolled with a bad draw and others might have only had favorable matchups and stomped because they were fighting a weaker deck. So fret not MBT you don't know you were the smooth brain yet.
@Ultraempoleon
@Ultraempoleon 3 года назад
At that point there would has be to be a decent reward I can't imagine bringing in that many capable players would be easy
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 3 года назад
Unpractical advice is jossed away. Sorry but what you suggest isnt worth anything.
@quedolapantera7623
@quedolapantera7623 3 года назад
I'm just gonna comment "unben mestarpiss, not even that good"
@willooo09
@willooo09 3 года назад
As an empty jar fan, I have never felt so disrespected in my life...
@mangoe9523
@mangoe9523 3 года назад
good
@BassAndTrebleBR
@BassAndTrebleBR 3 года назад
Good
@tonberryking42
@tonberryking42 3 года назад
If only someone could have told you that Master Peace is good because you can search it with Diagram and Majesty. In a deck that profits off of its "costs". That can tribute summon at SS2 during the opponent's turn - profiting off of the backrow being tributed. And then can, at SS2, disrupt the opponent. While also being immune to choice of two card types. Or that Stormforth exists. While also being notoriously hard to beat over. While Monarch's Erupt is a card that True Draco plays anyways. If only people could have told you that Master Peace *makes the deck*.
@cristianDominguez314
@cristianDominguez314 3 года назад
*Reads title* What? No, no, no. Of course not. The banlist is just there for *aesthetics*
@GamerGhostRider
@GamerGhostRider 3 года назад
The Pendulum vs Wind-Up game was absolute fire, lol.
@safeandsound712
@safeandsound712 2 года назад
Yo please do these regularly like every few months I love the more open format. It's super exciting. MBT is an entertainment genius
@joemoorhouse276
@joemoorhouse276 3 года назад
masterpiece wasn't even the card that won it, monarch's erupt is the card that needs to be banned
@LordBeau
@LordBeau 3 года назад
What if we ban both
@dragstar211
@dragstar211 3 года назад
Sadge cybersten didn't even hit the field
@Tagperson
@Tagperson 3 года назад
Yoooooooo I laughed so hard when I saw the draco player smack down an Amano then follows it up with mystic mine. YUGIOH is the best lol.
@umtothebert1831
@umtothebert1831 3 года назад
1:23:10 THIS IS A CERTIFIED HOOD CLASSIC!
@NY-Buddy
@NY-Buddy 3 года назад
31:33 So what about that is any different from draw "x" to stop VFD? Its unskillful to the max. A card i cant see by chance happens to be in my opponent's had and dictates whether i can play or not
@YuseiTheSynchroHero
@YuseiTheSynchroHero 3 года назад
_When the Peace is Masterful_
@bryanaguirre1168
@bryanaguirre1168 3 года назад
I was rooting for Bird-Up because I'm a Blackwing player in top 300 on Nexus. Best hand with no opponent hand traps: 1 Auster, 2 Bora, 1 Kris, 1 Harmattan This hand ends on(if uninterupted): borrelsword, Avian Infinate negate, Cyber dragon infinity, borrelsavage(with 2 counnters)or (blackwing master). I know.... Bad consistency and horrible deck if interupted. But is OP if you get any full combo. Anyways, this was a very fun video and you are gosh darn good at play telling. Love the vid man.
@eseria7550
@eseria7550 3 года назад
I haven't played yugioh in 7 years what the fuck am I looking at
@SlimeMagexx
@SlimeMagexx 3 года назад
My chances for masterpiece to get unbanned was ruined!
@liviousgameplay1755
@liviousgameplay1755 3 года назад
I love how until the last second, MBT sounded like Konami when he defended the unbanning of Master Peace (prime example: 1:26:30). Rest in Peace all the great players in the line up.
@justkaku1293
@justkaku1293 3 года назад
Rest in PEACE - I see what you did there.
@jesuscryst3239
@jesuscryst3239 3 года назад
Masterpiece isn't a problem
@kotkafer2292
@kotkafer2292 3 года назад
Yeah its Dinomight, Maiden and Ignis that should be banned instead. All of them
@samuelruiz8410
@samuelruiz8410 3 года назад
@@kotkafer2292 at 1 it's totally fine u might even banish it half the time off of Desires
@CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
@CrimsonKobaNakirigumi 3 года назад
Yeah, just ban all the floodgates and Draco cards and he can come back no problem
@chrish3969
@chrish3969 3 года назад
Conditional skill drain is just a better skill drain for any deck that goes under those conditions. I'd still have MP limited at best, but if they have access to an essentially 1-sided skill drain it's still never a fun game state.
@Order-Sol
@Order-Sol 3 года назад
If you really want Malicious to be Unlimited, add Emergency Teleport to Semi, and I'll rock your world.
@temptlessmonk9331
@temptlessmonk9331 3 года назад
I LOVE how it came down to "quantum computer technical play" VS "cant handtrap monke immune"
@mattscuderi51
@mattscuderi51 3 года назад
Had the players respected backrow decks more and played cards like twin twisters I don’t think draco would’ve gone so far.
@Altergeist
@Altergeist 3 года назад
Plus if TD actually where meta cuz of master piece kaijus would be back as well. But only 1 deck had those
@Powerman293
@Powerman293 3 года назад
Modern Yugioh players don't run spell and trap removal anymore so any floogate that is Spell and Trap based is pretty much a death sentence.
@Altergeist
@Altergeist 3 года назад
@@Powerman293 mate if a floodgate deck comes around back row removal apperas harpies and lightning exist
@idbw1274
@idbw1274 3 года назад
That pendulum deck list is still an assault to my eyes.
@coyot7959
@coyot7959 3 года назад
"master peace come to 3, nobody will lose to true draco in 2021"
@JennieYGO
@JennieYGO 3 года назад
I’m still trying to figure out what the wind up player was doing
@Landextrois
@Landextrois 3 года назад
Creating a new meme. Probably
@BassAndTrebleBR
@BassAndTrebleBR 3 года назад
The thing Wind-Up players do best: Summon
@Metallicamilo311
@Metallicamilo311 3 года назад
@@BassAndTrebleBR to end in nothing.
@BassAndTrebleBR
@BassAndTrebleBR 3 года назад
@@Metallicamilo311 Precisely lmao
@erickjr9
@erickjr9 3 года назад
@@Metallicamilo311 The wind-up strategy at it's finest
@AbsoluteIKeatI
@AbsoluteIKeatI 3 года назад
Still don't think Master Peace itself is that bad. It beat 2 bad decks and skill drained Bird Up to death.
@grovesy333
@grovesy333 3 года назад
It can definitely come back to 2
@FishFosh
@FishFosh 3 года назад
It's not very powerful in a vacuum but it is the tipping point for a very powerful floodgate deck. Skill draining your opponent with a repeatable quick effect removal tool on top, and it's sometimes very hard to remove, is very strong.
@lykillcorreli6740
@lykillcorreli6740 3 года назад
Clearly, trade Master Peace for Monarchs Erupt on the banlist.
@lampsonmcstand6150
@lampsonmcstand6150 3 года назад
Its also not too good of a mu for bird up as bird up normally just is stormforth turbo
@rinpg3333
@rinpg3333 3 года назад
Also, literally deep draw. The draco deck got a lot of their deep draw unhit, and their other tribute summons. Also, realistically, if anyone sided with actual respect to spell/trap decks, outside of like 3 cards, it would've died super early. Not to mention it's bracket was super easy, not to mention the fact that I almost just straight up won playing a deck that loses to most of their good cards
@WorldSogen
@WorldSogen 3 года назад
wow monarcs errupt turbo is crazy
@joshuatorres7766
@joshuatorres7766 3 года назад
Into the void 3 is never happening. Good to know.
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 3 года назад
Stunned silence for a solid 20 seconds followed by "You gotta be f****** kidding me." Tfw you know exactly what 2 cards it is without actually watching the video.
@orcustdashti2280
@orcustdashti2280 3 года назад
@30:28 The dark world danger player chained fog blade on oviraptor and he responded with misc and then another fog blade.... The first one would resolve even under misc
@XJ-0641
@XJ-0641 3 года назад
Its been 4 months and I still believe the reason True Draco won was because nobody was playing Heavy Storm
@TheDonJuan
@TheDonJuan 3 года назад
If you let me play, I could have prevented this from happening...
@zenithstudio6819
@zenithstudio6819 3 года назад
Jar of archetype: "you called?"
@eniferxamm
@eniferxamm 3 года назад
True Draco’s problem right now is that it needs a critical mass of names to be an effective deck. 2 extra Dinomight, 1 chicken game, and 2 into the void means the deck has a much higher chance of seeing both pieces you need, as well as fig for 1-2 powerful unsearchable backrow pieces like Erupt, Skill Drain, Order etc. All of this puts True Draco to a similar position it was when it was playable, and the super strong ultimate win con of a big scary Master Peace that can make itself immune to whatever the matchup calls for makes the deck pretty scary. I think that if you want Draco to be playable but okay, the most I would push for is 3 Dinomight 1 Master Peace, or to replace Master Peace with critical level name breakpoint cards like into the void. The needs some kind of consistency boost like Knight to 3, and then either ancillary consistency boosters to get into “rotate through the backrow engine and munch on boards” or the big boy to 1 for the “I’ve grinded enough and will now begin to end the game.”
@has199
@has199 3 года назад
Also doesnt help that Shenshen Chuche & Croc hoses this matchup
@rinpg3333
@rinpg3333 3 года назад
Realistically, only master peace could go to three and nothing would change. Dinomight also might be able to, since there is also a distinct lack of deep draw that doesn't require you to run an extra deck and one skill drain is bad
@has199
@has199 3 года назад
@@rinpg3333 Nothing changes in this current format but it still doesnt change how ignorant the card and design is
@eniferxamm
@eniferxamm 3 года назад
@@rinpg3333 I think the issue with MP is that he's a win con that typically takes more than one card to out. Bosses like this I think are great to put to 1-he doesnt always come out, and if he does hes a house, but you only have to out him once. I think that's the healthiest place for Draco-Master Peace should be scary until you clear him. Disciples makes it easier to get him back, but it takes a decent amount of resources to do it. Honestly though, 1 or 3 MP isn't that different.
@Rairiky
@Rairiky 3 года назад
So much resemblance to war of the worthless,a silly joke becomes a meme,a meme becomes a challenge, then the host gets more and more despair match by match 😂 Will watch it all when i can but that final 10 mins was hilarious and amazing,so many good memories
@tylerrobertson7919
@tylerrobertson7919 3 года назад
Hey so where do you get like the notifications of these ban lists to possibly be a part of these shenanigans and what platform are they using to duel on?
@NARFNra
@NARFNra 3 года назад
Check the previous video on the channel where he talks about what he;'d unban
@tylerrobertson7919
@tylerrobertson7919 3 года назад
@@NARFNra Awesome thanks!!
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