Been watching you for a few years now and I’ve adopted a few things. The long bar, no stooping or crouching is the way to go. I put a lot of time trying to get that free hand filing down. I went back to the filing plate to get a consistent result when time and productivity is the goal. I get the gullet as needed and sometimes I do what I call “tooth porting” to get big long chips. When I have the time, I try the free hand filing and see if I can get it sorted out. I like improving my weaknesses, it automatically makes my strengths even stronger. I also learned from you that when bucking, your depth gauges are lower and more aggressive than when felling and that I am better off with a higher depth gauge and less aggressive c for smooth felling cuts. There is a lot of nuance to this sharpening thing and it takes patience and applied experience. I also got those red and white wedges you use and they changed how I fell trees. On the East Coast, arborists really hate wedges, and they are indoctrinated to hate them. So you don’t see that much, but I don’t care, I think they are missing out on alot of versatility that logger techniques can provide them. Your right on the axe vs maul. Mauls are superior in certain woods and situations and axes are superior in certain woods and situations. I have several different types of high quality mauls and axes I got over the past 20 years. Together they are still cheaper than a splitter. That maul you held is awesome in white oak and shag bark hickory. To be good at something you have to “know what you are doing” to be great at something and master it you have to be curious and “learn why you are doing it”. Be curious, have fun and live the example.
Hey bro I'm in the North Carolina's in the Appalachian Mountains and we use wedges a lot to fall Timber but we fell with no machines most of the time unless we can get our little mini X to it but it's mostly for cleanup
I get what you're saying but on the sharpening I'm with you on that and a lot of this Hardwood around me is way different than cutting Pine or Spruce or whatever softwood or Poplar we have a lot of Poplar and it's soft but I use husqvarna's tool for sharpening the little roller gauge but what do you mean about tooth porting to get longer chips I'm interested
@@jordanwalker9309 RESPECT! I respect those that do a lot with very little. I’m up in New England. I’ve never gotten to work with or around faller. I have worked along side half a dozen arborists whos talk did match their walk, if you know what I’m sayin. I look forward to getting some pointers from a real faller when the opportunity presents its self.
@@jordanwalker9309 I have cut alot of poplar. Lately it’s been ash and both white and red oak as well as red and silver maple. As far as the tooth porting is an experiment. Best I can describe it is after you have gotten your chain sharp, gullet gotten and depth gauges right, I take a small round file, 1/8 I think, and I open up the underside of the working corner. Usually only 3-5 strokes. Right where the top plate meets the side. You are not connecting to the cutting edge, I try open that choke point up for the chips to flow off the working corner. I got the idea from seeing how far back those simington grinders cut into the tooth compared to a round file. I haven’t weakened the any of the teeth yet. I’m on my third chain doing this and the two prior lasted past the wear points. That might make more sense visually. Maybe I’ll put up a video on the concept, maybe test it on a brand new chain or something.
I truly love your wake up routine Billy Ray. A little prayer and a heart filled with gratitude for all that He has given us. I have such respect for you my friend!
I’m a novice. Had a Huge tree to break down into fire wood with a 16” saw. Once it got dull I tried everything on the internet to sharpen it and nothing really worked, until I found your videos. Still have much to learn but at least I’m cutting again! Thanks!
Stand Up And Buck has not only helped me cut longer it has also helped me become better at filing my saws. Thank you Buckin. This is awesome. Love ya brother. 🌲❤️🌲👊🪓
morning buckin! these splitting hammers are actually made to split approx. 1.50 meter long 50/60 cm thick logs lengthways. that's why they have the shape of a wedge. the splitting hammer is not an axe! he is a heavy spade wedge on a stick. Have a nice trip my friend! love ya brother!
Wasn't sure where to ask this.. Workin on my filing... Got a New Husky 450, (Maybe 3 tanks off the show room floor) Throws chains like beads in a MardiGras parade. Put a new Husky chain on. When it throws em it chews up the drivers, I buzz off the burrs and go again.. I'd say I run the chains tightish being they are "new" chains What am I looking for? Love my old 345 only ever threw one chain I remember.. Home gamer not a daily guy... But getting into stuff I mght get a bar stuck so wanterd a spare saw to rescue my errors... I need a long bar... Anyway, Why am I chucking chains on a new saw?
Hi Mr. Bucken,that was a good file trick thanks for that, learn everyday for sure, they say every knee will bend and every head will bow I think that's true!!!!good.stuff!thanks Sierra John!
Hello Buckin, here in Germany, mauls like this are used to split one meter long logs of oak ore beech when they are still moist. When you have very tought logs sometimes steel wedges are used and you Hammer them with the maul, but normale you dont need them. Than we stag the pices and dry them for one ore two years. After that they are cut with a circular saw. So thats a traditional German maul for the traditional German way of firewoodproduktion. All the best from Germany, Maximilian.
i usually cut longer lengths of wood to pack out of the bush , then i dont split the pieces that are less than 8 inches in diameter . im pretty sure that 3 or 4 foot lengths will dry out from the cut ends and so just stack on cross pieces between trees or whatever . works for me too .
In Eastern WA and North Idaho we are still dealing with the ash fallout from Mt St Helens. It is invisible and super abrasive to steel. The ash particles are embedded in the bark of all rough bark species. When bucking you quickly learn to never saw down through the back side of the log, always cut down from the top about 3/4 depth, then bore through and upwards through the back. Likewise after you roll the log over always finish the cut with the bottom of the bar so it pulls the bark away from the log. So you never drag the bark and ash all the way through through the cut. Make sense?
Here in eastern wa as well and I can attest to this. I try and show this to new cutters by getting a log dirty and explaining how the dirt gets carried through the kerf. You minimize this by boring then cutting up so the dirt gets thrown away from the power head. It's overlooked and I'm glad you brought it up.
Another great video Buckin. That serenity prayer is a beautiful and thought provoking thing. I kept it posted on my wall at my workplace for many years and when I retired I gave it to someone else to do the same thing
I've started using this technique myself (i.e. for bucking logs). Thanks for introducing me to it. Always make it a point to attack the big stuff like this with a just sharpened chain.
I'm confused as newbe to using a chainsaw and this channel. Everybody that pushes safety says to use two hands and preferably an extended left arm with a firm grip but I see most pros and tree cutters using one hand a lot. And went to your web site but could not find the price of your axes.
When learning to hand file it might be helpful to remember that it's the top .030" of the SIDE of the tooth that severs the wood fibers, but it's the top plate that you are looking at when you file. This is why you must file all the way back until the the corner (and therefore the top of the side plate) is nice and sharp. The cutting edge of the top plate lifts the chip (like a chisel across grain) and the gullet carries the chip out of the cut. I round grind my chains and use 30 degrees top angle and 60 degrees hook angle at the top of the side plate (the most important edge that does the hardest work). Fast and smooth! Love wins!
I wanted to say a thank you Buckin for introducing me The Harmless Farmer. Enjoyed watching his channel and continue to look back on some of his great videos. He was the definition on “Can do”!! He reached a lot of people and through your channel I wanted to say I, and I’m sure a lot more, thank you for commenting to take a look at his channel. 👊🏻 👊🏻
Some may say I cannot afford a larger saw. You do not need a brand new saw i got an old stihl 038 AV magnum II that was neglected for about $300 past about $50 into it over the last 3 years and she cuts awesome handles a 28" bar with eas.
Having 9 herniated discs in my lower back, bending over running a saw just wrecks me. On the other side of that, holding a heavier saw out in front of me probably isn’t much better. Not sure I have a “better way” in this situation. Probably shouldn’t be running a saw (doctor definitely doesn’t approve 😂) but I’m going to anyway. Gonna try a longer bar too, see how that goes.
o machado e a motosserra (The Axe And The Chainsaw) eli silva & zé goiano composição: moacir dos santos / zé goiano o machado e a motosserra tiveram uma discussão motosserra diz que é orgulho da evolução machado pra mim já era pois vem do tempo de adão você agora só serve pra fazer calo na mão motosserra dá um ronco relou o dente no tronco já se vê o pau no chão a serra chamou o machado pra fazer uma porfia machado aceitou na hora e quando chegou o dia entraram junto no mato pra mostrar a serventia a motosserra roncava machado velho tinia e naquele matagal foi só cavaco de pau pó de serra que subia e esse grande duelo deste jeito é que termina na briga das ferramentas o machado é que domina motosserra parou cedo ali no tronco da quina machado seguiu cortando mata grossa e mata fina motosserra impotente rebentou sua corrente acabou a gasolina que isto sirva de exemplo para toda humanidade e você que é tão jovem tem que saber a verdade respeite bem os mais velhos não brinque com sua idade uma pessoa idosa também tem utilidade é um diamante valioso se não tivesse o idoso não teria mocidade
Totally agree on the sleeve around the business end of the handle. It just makes too much sense. I broke down and bought a maul just to have around "in case", and it came with one of those. All I could think was Why the heck didn't I think of that??? Still working on getting decent at sharpening- this tip will help a lot! The situation I cut in features logs laying flat on the ground, and ones in piles off the ground. I'd much rather cut the latter, but have been going after the grounders first- those are the ones soaking up ground water, collecting bugs, dirt and rocks, and they'll start to rot first. I try to buck just like you did, there. Standing up, and cut part way- then roll it over to finish. Some are just too big, or have unseen stubs preventing them from rolling, for me to do that. Then you gotta do what you gotta do... Some days I'd give anything for a tractor with a grapple or pallet forks so I don't have to bend over like that.
wow can't even begin to tell you how grateful I am for you to have made this video and for me to have seen it specifically tonight as I lay here with a wrecked lower back from cutting up 8 huge dead oaks for firewood with short bars can't wait to give this a try. I've got failure of the old L4/L5 and hope to be cutting wood for many years to come. definitely felt the part about the effort it takes to get back up after going down. thank you, your videos have been incredible, found out about you from iron horse
While your in PA make sure to stock up on some Lebanon bologna. Timber country in PA is up near Williamsport and St. Mary's PA. And Gettysburg National battlefield will change your perspective on life!!
Buckin: when you get back from your US your check your PO Box in Nanaimo for a nifty lil’ gift: Secondly on axe weight; let me analogize it to my experience as a karate man. In all things physics speed kills, not mass. Thus, a 100 pound woman who is a karate expert can throw a karate punch and knock down a man your size using speed and nothing more. If you took a billiard ball and shot it from space at earth at the speed of a comet it would create a blast several megatons in yield. So with axe bits same principle applies. A 3 pound bit swung faster has more kinetic energy than a 5 pound swung slower
I struggle majorly with sharpening, it seems to be hit or miss. Don't know what i'm doing wrong. On a side note, I'm originally from Pittsburgh. GO STEELERS
my leatherman has a flat file on it, don't know if it would be any good for hitting rakers but it sure cleans a battery terminal nicely. wash your mouth out with soap Buckin', you sharpened that Husky and said "you see, it's Stihl sharp" 😂
I like the idea of not bending over so much. Thanks for that one! Be careful what you say to yourself. Jesus said, “through your words you are justified and through your words you are condemned”. Not fear mongering, but, just thought I would pass it along. Matthew 12:37
I really need you to respond to my begging you for information, my grandfather wore the same red flannel shirt you have, I bought two of them years ago, last time I was in New Brunswick I couldn't find any stores that carry them, and please don't tell me yours is twenty years old, thanks my friend, I would be logging in Canada if my grandfather didn't pass away when I was in highschool, my uncle was still logging but he worked 60-70 hours a week and was hard to get together with, thanks for the videos, stay strong and pray without ceasing
Hello boss man possibly you do not have time to answer my question English and live in France I'm running ms391 longest bar you recommend I can put on mysore as I suffer with my back watch lol videos but do not coming as this is truthfully the first time I've messaged anybody after watching your alcohol video drunk video brought me to tears similar road as you and I'm a similar age excuse for no full stops or anything as I am dyslexic and this is voice good luck to you and all man to another man xxx
Amen to that brother ! One thing I noticed when standing up and bucking is you have better spatial awareness for your field of vision is larger . So many reasons why your method is preferred for me . Thank you so much for sharing…. 🇦🇺✊🏻
I'm just as compromised al little older stroke. Hey I get it been waiting to get better then got COVID. Everything hurts every day. But this channel helps .And yes my saws have gotten bigger and better. Thank you this beats talking to a blue cross nurse every day. I've done that.
I don’t also don’t understand the whole short bar thing. I see people killing their back bucking with these short 20-25 in bars all the time. If your saw can’t run a 32 with at least a full skip port it or get it ported or get a bigger saw.
Brother love the videos, but I need to know where you got that amazing looking dinner jacket, it reminds me of the champion ones of my youth, the buffalo check is spot on. I hope you see this post. Keep up the awesome work
After you made your first cuts on the log and you rolled it, why did cut from the bottom up? The way I was taught, you never want to pull ground into your cut if at all possible, that just dulls your chain. I would have rolled the log almost another quarter turn and then cut from the top down. this way the uncut muddy portion would have been facing you so as you cut, the dirt would have been slung out of your cut not in. Make sense?
You need those block busters for aussie hard wood. I have broken quite a few handles on them, I am like lightning , I never strike twice in the same spot.
Skimmed my thumb a few times with the round file. What are you going to do? Miles from town in the bush. Whatever you have to do. A raker guage is no good sitting at home on your shed bench.🤣
Yo, I made a comment about how to deal with logs sunk right in the ground and yah.. you already got one mate :D Though, this tree I've gotta deal with she's big and in deep :(
exact way i was taught do it in Lincoln Co NM . and be good a multiple things . "jack of all trades master of none but always better than a master of one ."
I don;t think you mentioned that when you do the up cut on the dirty side your not dragging all the grit through the whole log. Simpler wording with the up cut all the grit may get touched by your sharp edge but almost no damage.
Hello Buckin what a great insert you put in. You are the catalyst that helped jump start the change in my life. Please say Helo to Nick for me if you can. Love and respect my friend
Stand up and buck was something my grandad taught me. I thought big bars were just for big trees until I watched him drop trees, trim limbs, and buck. He ran 36's mostly, I run a 32 because I am short. It truly is a game changer as I have a bad back at 30 and want to stay walking for as long as I can. Now I just need to get better at hand filing. I'm cutting some 32-48 inch wood for a friend that is stupid hard and was ruining a chain just about every round that I got cut. They were all machine ground by a local shop, but my hand filing to try to get the job done did not fare any better. Just gotta cut more and sharpen more and keep learning.
Brother I know you boys dont have a lot of time before you head to ohio but tell nick to get you in some locust or osage! You’ll be impressed! See you saturday! Me and the little guy are comin to see ya!
I'm glad Billy shows how you can use a round file in this way.....I've had to do this many times and I always wondered if I was the only one lol...... I love this
I totally relate to this view on cutting standing up I’ve had 5 back surgeries and 2 spinal fusion and I’m only 40 but I love running’s saws I just can’t bend over this is good advise from bbr work smarter not harder
I'm sorry I think it's funny that buckin has to say" TURN OFF YER SAW" cuz ya know there someone bumping there head on the shallow side of the pool who wouldn't
Elk hunted with a Old time Logger from Oregon 15 years ago. He asked me to grab his fire wood saw out of the truck. I dropped the tailgate on his Chevy S-10 and there was a old Jonsered with what had to be a 36" bar. Being from Minnesota I said that there is one a scary lookin saw, he laughed and said that is was safer than any saw with a 24" or shorter bar. He said it was darn near impossible to cut you leg with a long bar because it's in the dirt long before its in your knee. And if it kicks back it has to throw all that bar weight so it moves a hole lot slower.
It’s not the length of bar, it’s the number of teeth in the wood… so you can’t have a bar length discussion without first having the full house vs skip discussion.
Buckin thank you for this video.. I see what i was doing wrong in my hand filling 6 month's ago and changed it. Seeing this video today confirmed I was right.. Have fun at Bunyan this weekend and someday out paths will cross and we will shake each other's hand. In the meantime keep showing us and teaching us..
