Doja Cat Wants This Video Deleted... 

@Amber Smith oh no i agree, i wouldn't be happy either, but im pointing out the irony. Also i kinda dont approve of her willingness to judge this other woman on her looks while symotanisly telling others not to judge her(especially when the one that was doing the "judging" was in no way hostile or rude) I can understand her frustration but she gets no pass, i can and will make fun of her outburst.

😂 right! Insecure much?

Kind of hard to live your life under a microscope. She does make a good point when she says that these channels are leaching off of other's brands.

@@Lee-fs1rg read my last comment.

Okay, and?

If someone makes a whole video of you nitpicking your whole face and saying procedures you could've done to make yourself the way you look now it will make you defensive just like how a normal person would react when they've been blamed for something they didn't do

Dojas branded herself as natural she has every right to be pissed

@@mysticcangel1654 I dont believe lorry was nitpicking at all, as the definition is to criticize unnecessarily. In fact she makes sure to compliment people all the time in her videos, in the "befores" and the "afters", she always says they're beautiful no matter what and its just her opinion. She just states her opinion. If doja doesn't want people looking at her face then why is she getting on these lives.

@@mysticcangel1654 especially if had surgery like she has

@@mysticcangel1654 But Doja did do surgery, it's sooo obvious. The fact that she's lying to her young fans claiming she's natural is so disgusting. Idc what she's been through. No excuse. You only care about Doja and can't see the bigger picture and problem here.

Not surprisingly Doja is part of the "body positivity" movement and pretends to be 100% natural lol

bruh moment lol

Moose Man yes I agree ☝️ that was just ignorant she should not say that to her now that is gonna make people want plastic surgery

Well she’s messing with a mixed girl and making rumors about her looks so lorry deserves the treatment she got she only got what she was giving.

@@Luna-mx7fi What does being mixed have to do with anything. I’m not going to agree or disagree with the rumor stuff, Lori is in a grey zone in my opinion, but I’m genuinely curious what being mixed has to do with this situation whatsoever

It doesn’t matter she still tried to assume that it was a possibility and that’s still rude and it’s still something that a bully would do in order to be able to bully someone in a low key manner so idk why lorry hills simps keep making pathetic excuses for her and people with bigger noses can easily use makeup to make their noses look different so honestly any weak evidence that lorry was using was straight up dumb and weak especially because every girl knows that makeup can change someone’s look drastically also I have experience with having a septum and that can also make someone’s nose look bigger but some of you people will continue to try to ignore how these things can easily make someone look different but whatever you people are so gullible and will believe the most absurd rumors. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@@Luna-mx7fi wtf

If you can be wrong then should probably keep your mouth shut or it just gets ya in trouble. MUCH more intelligent to just wait for actual facts before running your mouth. That way videos like these don't get made about you. Simple logic. But I appreciate anyone who feels the need to stand up for someone👏but also doesn't excuse the fact that doja acted like a complete child instead of an adult when responding.

Actually, in the comments Lorry said that she never posts these videos unless she's sure that what she is saying is a fact and calls on outside researchers as well. She says "allegedly" to protect herself

@@katkat7828 more than likely she’s just expressing it’s her opinion so she can’t be sued for slander or some shit

@@shakiraismommy bruh no

she literally opened her argument insinuating that woman was ugly and needed work done, which meant all her opinions were worthless since she was attractive in her eyes. It's gross behavior from another woman and Doja is just nasty inside. Great music, rotten heart.

LMFAOOOO

I just knew the existence of the video after lorry wrote a comment (or I don't know how it's called) in which it said she deleted the video about some celebrity to avoid conflicts. Then i read people's responses to that and they said it was doja and now I am here. Literally doja made people watch it hahahahha

Streisand effect

All she was defending her self cause people always trying to assume shit like stop commenting on doja’s body

She should've never reacted to the video in the first place if she's go to be this childish like i get that she's drunk and all but that still doesn't mean she can go off on somebody like that.

That last line sums it up.

You see not MANY people care now - but there was, and still is, a LOT of people who stigmatized plastic surgery. People who call it "lying", people who will mock the insecurities that the person used to have, people who will tear others down claiming they don't deserve what they have because they "bought their pretty face/body" or call them lazy for not getting their goals through "hard work". Some of it is being a dick, others stem from insecurity, but there was and still is a lot of "hush hush" around plastic surgery. It is DEFINITELY more acceptable today than it was say 20 years ago. But 20 years ago was just the 2000s, the people that stigmatized it then are still alive today and spreading their views to the newer generation. Saying "no one cares until you lie" is all well and good if you intend to ignore the literal millions of comments out on the internet even within the last year shaming men and women alike for using plastic surgery regardless of whether or not it was to "fix" an insecurity, or just because they wanted that look. I mean hell, I'm no charlie fan (or was it Dixie?? One of the two) but I remember how many people were blasting her for getting a nose job despite her claiming countless times that it was for health reasons. They wanted, and did, bash her for getting a nose job despite her not hiding the fact that she did. They turned it into a vanity problem rather than what she was open about. It couldn't JUST be the truth, it had to be something worth hating. And apparently what was worth hating was if she had the audacity to say I want a different nose. According to her that wasn't the case but the internet still ran to bully her over it as if it was. This is to say, that while yes those in a position of influence should be mindful to not make their audience feel as though there is something wrong with them for not being able to naturally achieve the same results- it's also messed up to expect people, celebrity or otherwise, to be completely open 24/7 about things that are personal to them such as plastic surgery. If I got a boob job and the first thing a hundred people asked me was if my "tits were real" I'd be uncomfortable and hurt too- I personally don't give a fluff about plastic surgery so it's not a matter of me being embarrassed by it but simply not wanting to tell literal strangers why I chose to get one hypothetically - especially knowing that some might accept my reason and others will scrutinize it. I just felt like it will work for some, and others will mock me to hell and back. And I'm not a celebrity! I have no influence. Now imagine I'm on some sort of pedestal for millions to see and criticize - that's a LOT to ask of someone who at the end of the day is still just a human being like you and I. I don't blame any celebrity for not being the first to dive into the cesspool that is the internet without a life jacket. When you open yourself up to criticism you open yourself up to hatred. It's just a LOT.

I kno right jesus its soo hard for these cats come on u chose these surgeries own it.

@@heavenlance7833 thank you! 💯

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I don't think many ppl agreed with Doja, only a few of her fans attacked Lorry but yet again they were obviously fetuses too young to understand what happened. I'm actually mad she was smoking on a live watched by teens and impressionable minds.

@Kesha Patel exactly! 👏 I also think Doja didn't bother watching the video, she just jumped on her live and hurled insults at Lorry. So immature 🙄

@@cocaobean628 i agree! She also sounds immature and drunk 🥴...I'm embarrassed for her tbh

@@blueviolets52 she's usually kinder and more understanding. I think she was drunk, yeah. Bad move on her part

Its just her toxic fanbase.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much

To think you get to control how someone reacts to your “opinion” is insane! 😂🤦🏽‍♀️ Keep your opinion to yourself if you can’t handle a person’s reaction. “Don’t come for me if I didn’t send for you”. It’s not that hard. And if you so choose to vocalize your unsolicited opinion, then you get what you get and you don’t get upset lmao. 😂🤷🏽‍♀️

​@tictheintrovertedcancer7917 talking about potential surgeries is literally her brand.... she is pro surgery and isn't dogging on anyone. She is very open about the surgery she has had too.

Your experiences don’t speak for everyone babe

@@missgurl218 no it doesn’t but most have skin issues after a major weight loss and that is true

Exactly your tits don't magically un-sag after weightloss, if anything they get even worse and I feel sorry for any woman that thinks working out is going to fix them... Not to mention the blatantly obvious difference to dojas eyelids. No amount of makeup makes your eyelids go from hooded with a lazy eye, to non hooded with the lazy eye corrected. People just simp for celebs so hard to the point of delusion.

@@caylahtaikoi I lost a lot of weight too and I didn’t have any skin issues. That really only tends to happen if you are losing hundreds of pounds.

@@blackmilku not everyone with a lazy eye has their eyes be unaligned all the time. often it only Detract from the other eye during certain moments. Also it wasn’t “unsagged” she clearly was wearing a bra in one picture and took it off in the other. Why do y’all find it so hard to believe pretty people can’t exist naturally without having work done 💀

Stream planet her

Exactly!!! 90% of people in these comments are in denyal about the fact that she had plastic surgery and keep defending her. Having plastic surgery is not a bad thing, buy lying about it a not-so-moral thing to do. She is a great artist but not a great person, and people just refuse to see how bad of a person she actually she bc she's "goofy" and "relatable" and "she likes memes"

I see the problem in how she answered the allegations with rude/angry/bully type of comments to Lorry + being hypocritical, she acted like a child of 5 without their toy, and see nothing wrong with it.

She can’t handle being famous. She is NOT made for that industry. She’s too immature and too sensitive.

Exactly! That's what we should be talking about, the homophobic comments and racism. Not a fan.

To be fair about the body positivity thing, almost all people who follow body positivity are disgusting hypocrites in that manner.

She is really professional and so she left behind procedures that she is 100 % sure were done because she don’t want insult no body. She is really knowledgeable . I am pretty familiar with plastic surgery and she is on point on everything she said in her videos

Lorry(

those body reading channels are highly problematic and that's the point she's getting at. You've made this such a normal thing to talk about celebrities appearances that when they get justifiably angry about it you start calling them drunk

I don’t even know her and I’m on her side. It’s gross to make these comments. I hate it.

@@ehshadysnack8548 why are they problematic gen/

@@ehshadysnack8548 didn't she say she was drunk in the live? And yes she is justified to be mad, but it's a reach to go on a 40 minute drunken rant on a public forum simply because she's mad at a RU-vid who openly admits in the very same video that most of her claims are speculative, I not outright, then in the language she uses.

I can imagine the intended purpose was perception for conversation. So more people are comfortable with this conversation due to radical stigma. I would not be mad if someone said this kind of stuff about me. I would be flattered my face looks expensive when in fact maybe I spent $900 in my life on fillers. Or nothing at all. I would just openly state what the facts are from my perception. I don't take offense or get mad at cosmetic surgery claims. I don't have hate for cosmetic surgery or procedures. I think they are fascinating and an interesting art form. As is being natural. To each their own. There is no shame in being in love with body modification. We are in 2022. We can basically be alien looking humans with no belly buttons or nipples if we want. I think because body modification is an art it can easily fall in lines with a subjective based discussion. Not everyone likes to talk art with some people depending on how radical their tastes are vs another. Just like subjective bias conversation about fashion, video games etc. I use to have people in my highschool claim I was smoking crack because contoured my nose before it was trendy. I didn't get offended. I thought it was hilarious. Everyone is different.

She literally says she’s angry because someone lied about and y’all are like she’s angry cause it’s true 🤨 it’s almost as if you didn’t listen cause you wanna tone police

If she wanted to “get away with it” she could’ve stayed silent and not called attention to it- this woman is a supposed expert and everything she pointed out didn’t make sense. I would be irritated as fuck if I came across some person with obvious plastic surgery analyzing my pictures and pointing out the work she thinks I had done- when she is dead wrong… you can never win- if you are upset and show it, you must be guilty according to people that, for a fact- do not know a damn thing

@@Chankun the thing is, even if she was angry she took it in a way that DOES look guilty EVEN if she's not. That's the point. We don't know the truth, so the only thing fans have to work with is what they can see, and a reaction like this might be seen as guilty. I'm not saying she is, I'm saying she handled this horribly if her point was to say the video was wrong.

@@Chankun wonder if they'd say the same thing if she was a white woman 😑

@@weruleyoudrool they are countless of white celebrities who got the same treatment when they aggressively denied stuff. It makes you look increasingly suspicious and garners more scrutiny from the public eyes thus, more criticisms and trolls lol. It's just a normal reaction. No one will believe you if you get that worked up for something like this but you can hide behind the race excuse sure

Make up isn't real ig

@@Unknownperson-ie6bm when did she say it wasn’t real?

@@Unknownperson-ie6bm wait what?

@@Sofiebea they are saying that make-up isnt used? as if you cant have plastic surgery and make-up on at the same time?

No the world doesn’t revolve around common folks feelings. Why does no one seem to get this. Lorry had a piurpose, an educational purpose. She’s taking that away for someone’s feelings. SOMEONE who CHOSE to be a public figure. Give me a break plz Edit: isn’t corrected to doesn’t lol

Imagine being a female celebrity and constantly having to hear bout your body and if it’s real or not. It can wear anyone down, even if they are happy with their body image.

Or Doja Cat is just so fucking tired of hearing the same shit again and again lol (no, I don't think her reaction is entirely justified, but I can see where she's coming from)

@@quitegauche OK...and this happens to regular people all the time and we don't get paid millions of dollars to deal with it. Doja is not a god.

@@livelovely4681 did I say anything that implied that regular people didn’t experience the same? I didn’t, the difference between us and them is that completely random strangers will judge them despite not knowing them. Make up shitty rumors and the like and it’s worse when it comes to women because despite it being 2022 there are assholes who like to nitpick shit. They aren’t paid to be harassed, they’re paid whatever career they’re in. Also, I don’t like Doja Cat or consider her a god (where the fuck did u get that idea from?) I’m just not of the opinion that what happened is Doja Cat’s side, the other side and nothing else.

@@livelovely4681 girl shut up

y’all always up lori’s ass. that duck faced lil girl isn’t innocent in this situation and doja had every right to call her out

@@seoulku Love the bullies up here

Lorry*

What’s the weirdest is how she’s going full glam while clearly alone af in her house. Like it just seems insecure. So sad I love Doja but she is losing her damn star power lol

@@pixiedust5239 She's not merely "full glam," but also filtered to the hilt, as I've seen her be in two random videos. If she wants to support natural beauty, why is she doing videos that are obviously filtered, for starters.

Doja had worked done. She's desperate. Not to mention the amount of spandex she wears on stage.

same. just in general for those vids. i was surpised to find that now a lot of stuff made sense and that a lot of people end up judging themselves on a fake standard. it's like the makeup ones. seeing celebs without makeup it's like OH. you are literally always comparing your non makeup self to those with natural looking makeup. it's not even. it causes complexes and stuff. i'm glad these kind of channels exist. and it doesn't take away from celebs being beautiful or hot or anything.

Agreed

That part

she looks like a Cheeto..

@@dre009 lmafo

Nawh, some of that isn't make up. You can't change your eye shape with make up. Lorry is generally right.

@@jessicaparker2011 you would be surprised to see the shit people can do with makeup. Some people can change a lot just by tricking you with makeup but lorry could also just be right lol

Bullshit

Agreed, doja lost me as a fan after this

@@sregan5415 samee

Intent doesn’t matter, outcome does. Pages like this that speculate on someone’s “work” are super gross, problematic and insidious

@@MeckiiVg the outcome was all Dojas doing. Plenty of people do videos like these more plates more dates is another famous one. There was nothing wrong with speculation from someone who’s been under the knife and knows what they’re speaking of. She makes it very clear that it’s purely speculative and is not in a negative connotation

@@slothschewgum It's not 'all Dojas doing' People shouldn't be openly speculating on what work someone has, experience or not. People sitting there making these kinds of speculations remove the autonomy of the person they're speculating on, it adds pressure for people who have had work done to talk about whether they have or hadn't and areas where they might be self conscious or have dysmorphic views. Plus, it's not anyones business what cosmetic procedures someone else has done to THEIR OWN BODY, and it's up to the person who has had the work on whether they want to talk about it. The back end of the industry pushing back on 'false beauty standards' is a very toxic and outdated approach to it. Inviading someones autonomy and right to conversate about their own body in ANY CAPACITY is gross, and the fact someone sits there and profits off of this contributes to that. I'm also speaking as someone with exeprience: a fucking Psych. I see young women dealing with confidence and autonomy issues daily, and it's not because they think a celebrity has had work done, I can tell you that

She already broke her ego. Not everyone deserves popularity and she clearly doesn't

Finally some common sense

I think it’s still an invasive thing to speculate on people’s bodies like that. If it were you people would be respectfully stating their opinion on your body about, would you be okay with it?

True, but the thing is a lot of ppl take the claims as fact. But yea doja’s response was a lil outta pocket

@@emmavrijburg6676 if you get fame on this level you can't attack every person that doesn't do the right thing. Just makes people disrespect you more

I get why she is upset, I am also a half-black woman and I get accused frequently of getting plastic surgery it is insulting. Especially since when I do lose weight my eyelids aren't as puffy, my face changes a lot and I have super high cheekbones. when I gain weight my cheekbones are super chubby. I understand where she's coming from. it is fairly annoying and insulting when people say that it isn't possible to be naturally this pretty and a lot of WOC get this a lot. I do understand that people do get surgeries to improve themselves, unless you have solid proof you shouldn't bring it up to people. I'm sure there's a way to check for receipts other than pictures because when I was in 2013, I look significantly different. People coming for someone about their look and claiming it's surgery is really insulting.

@@HollyLiana I think it's important, just as it is with reporters, to have the facts when you're reporting. If you're going to say "allegedly" and such be prepared for retaliation from those you are accusing. I'm not saying she shouldn't report on cosmetic surgery, but pointing out cosmetics is important, just as it is to allow women with natural beauty to not be told they are possible to occur.

I think she also kinda misunderstood the point of the video. She might have taken it as an insult, like accusing her of being fake

But some people might take her word as truth and harass them

If it were me she was “respectfully” speculating about, I’d still be extremely uncomfortable though

@@MiniMight I feel like it’s also about people on the internet just speculating on your body. That’s a pretty invasive thing to do

Just because you would laugh somethi g off, doesn't mean everyone else can. Doja may have been really hurt. She makes songs about her body, and she probably has tons of hate comments body shaming her. You never know how something can effect someone. This was probably over the top for her and she felt attacked and hurt. I never had work done on me, but people have said some hateful stuff about me saying I did have work "to be a woman". If someone posted a video saying "Here's why Bunnie looks more feminine now" I would cry my heart out even if it was just meant to be a observation. Doja is a person at the end of the day

lol I used to call him that when I first found his channel

I still call him that lmao

lol

He's said Ah-toe-zy though so maybe he's just taking it 😂

ur a few years late but lol

And she's had obvious surgery

@@ChiralityPracticality there is nothing obvious about her growing up and the natural body changing like its supposed to, you think you can keep your teenager body forever?? Lmaaoo

Exactly.

@@sergionperez she 20 fckng 6 ..26. She wasn’t recently a teenager…she had surgery not a lot but she tweaked and did some things. Her getting so angry just proves it even more.

@@lovefckz5716 if that's what you think yeah sure whatever but that's my point, Lowry or whoever cant use pics from when she was a teenager it just doesn't work and since she actually excercises it def helps because its clearly obv that no one sees people actually working weight off, and weight works different for obviously different peopl. And she's gotten way better at makeup so none of the pics are useful and her "professional" opinion is what?? A youtubers opinion lmao thata just ridiculous and she has every right to be mad just like everyone else. But it's funny to see desperate ppl make wild claims when they dont know who or how she is, shit I would be mad too about this because its happened way to many times and people rather assume oh you did this this and and nothing is natural like no that literally helps no one and is toxic, she takes pride in her looks and body as anyone else should. Shes worked to hard to get to where shes at and then have this happen

She’s an alcoholic, plain and simple.

🤣 Doja-bag

Lol with her reaction it just makes me think she's 100% done some surgery and is being defensive

@@Thebeezzkneezz. When someone blames you for something you know you didn't do you would react defensively Doja cat's reaction is understandable. Lorrys opinion might have good intentions but her nitpicking little details and speculating surgery is too much

@@mysticcangel1654 nope I don't I just laugh and say no cause I know the facts n they don't 🤣that's called being mature clearly she's not mature at all

@@mysticcangel1654 no not really. When someone accuses me of something i didnt do I'd scoff say nah or not even acknowledge it cuz obviously I didn't do it so I have no emotion to give to the accusations. Her stomping her feet insulting lorrys looks and saying she wants to destroy her is only something someone does when a nerve is hit. Can't hit a nerve if it dosnt exist so clearly some work was done 🤣 (Also lorry is not the 1st person to comment on her surgry so I find it very hypocritical for her to only be targeting this 1 small creator) And she just gave this more attention so now people are jsjr going to be talking about it alot MORE than if she just left it alone, which is counterproductive

@@mysticcangel1654 when most people get called out for this or many other things of this caliber we laugh and say "lol no". Plastic surgery is not very serious of an allegation so this reaction makes doja seem like she's guilty. Its not very professional to lash out at someone courteous and professional aka Lorry. She reacted like a middle schooler and that personally disgusts me. You're an adult, act like it.

Yeah Laurie always comes off respectful and she never makes her videos to expose or callout celebrities (well she doesn't call out the ones who don't lie about it) Her videos shows that not everything you see with celebrities is natural and to not compare yourself but also showing there's nothing wrong with plastic surgery

Well I kinda understand where doja is coming from if someone makes a video about you speculating about whether or not you have work done is too much especially when there's people who will just believe what you've claimed and take it as a fact

@@mysticcangel1654 yeah of course it can be weird for someone to pick apart every part of your body. But I don't Laurie had malicious intent. She also compliments people's natur features as well. She's also very open about her own plastic surgery. But Laurie did apologize and deleted the video. I love doja but I think she was a little harsh with those insults

@@mysticcangel1654 is this satire?

wtf is a doja cat please someone tell me

How is that harassment

@@finnxft7421 here is the definition of harass from Merrimack-Webster Dictionary: to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct

@@finnxft7421 just to help you out, here is the definition of cyber harassment as according to Science Direct: where a person or group bullies a victim using the Internet and/or other methods of electronic communications

"No plastic surgery but if you were to compare photos? Age and weight changes the face." the weight change would have been taken into account. so your point? so it's ok for her to be against body shaming and with the same breath body shame another women? the hypocrisy is showing

@@sofypi7493 hypocrisy? How? And weight changes were taken into account??? When? I didn't see that.

@@sofypi7493 you are chatting complete nonsense

It’s normal to be angry yes but it’s not normal to go in a 40 minute rant trying to tear her down body shame her threaten her empire all over her opinion and a video that alone seems a bit sus don’t you think? No hate 🥰💯

@@stargazerkawaii girl did you not watch the whole video or watch her live stream? she literally went in body shaming the hell out of the girl 🥺😬💯

She defiantly wasn’t criticizing her but I don’t think she should have commented on her body at all, she never said anything negative about Doja

I mean i understand her reaction but lory didnt criticize her she only speculized. Plus i think she has videos on men.

@@ooi-lalaa-li240 *speculating And it’s just gross to speculate on someone’s body like that.

Lorry wasn’t criticizing her at all. Her videos are to show the change progressing and let average people know that we don’t have to hate ourselves for not being able to afford plastic surgery

@@Mama_Bear524 what?????

ANYONE in any public, political, private business can be, has been, and will be scrutenized. Famous people will be scrutenized and lets be honest. Tell me doja cat doesn't like the attention. I mean she stretched out the response for 40 minutes reapeated her self and made sure she looked good on camera for her fans. She is insecure.

Mmmm but she heavily misrepresented Lory. her content wasn't even malicious.she always states its just her opinion and should never be taken as fact at the beginning of her videos.

Thank you! I don’t understand why people think Celebrities aren’t people and just because they’re famous they should sit back and take criticism on their looks and can’t respond, yes it was a bit much but Dojas feelings are just as valid as anyone else’s. Just because the creator was being “respectful” doesn’t mean it wasn’t hurtful.

@@MJ-kb2mp why does a respectful speculation lead to heavy body shaming/surgery shaming and hateful remarks though ? I know it's just how she feels but I think she didn't even watch all the videos shes referring to ;to be fair because some of the stuff she states is just not in her videos at all.;aka she's painting a false picture. I know Lory would've just removed it without all the theatrical rants and shaming .

@@cubanknightmare4126 Doja may like attention, but not for this. She was drunk in this video and actually started to change her tune towards the end when she probably sobered up a little. And if there’s one thing Doja doesn’t mind, it’s looking a hot asś mess on a live. Of course celebrities will get scrutinized. But I think it’s time we stopped pretending they are robots. The way Britney was treated all because she had a mental breakdown from her kids being taken away from her is just ridiculous. It’s just weird that we don’t see celebrities as humans who are just trying to make a living doing something they enjoy.

It's kinda hard cause i think it is shady if they deny having surgery done because especially young fans can be negatively affected At the same time it is their body and therefore no ones business if they had a surgery Also if dojas brand is to be natural and prove you can naturally be confident and pretty etc i get why she is mad Because then it probably means alot to her and she wants her fans to know they can be their best selves in a sense and she might be scared her fans then think "oh so i can't be natural to be like this" But aaaalso if it is her brand she should be true to it But in the end i don't think she had plastic surgery

If she doesn’t want videos made about her then she shouldn’t have chosen to be famous. These people know exactly what they are getting into when they make the choice to become famous. They should have thick skin or choose a different career.🤷🏽‍♀️

It’s not shady. It’s literally what her channel is about… not hard to go look either.

@@kayemendi4501 famous or not, it’s annoying to work hard at getting your body fit, performing and doing choreography constantly, all for people to accuse you of getting work done, or definitively stating it as if they were in the operating room with them. And to lose all that weight and have people talk shit and say things like “Oh she’s probably doing drugs,” (Lorry wasn’t the one that said this but this was something that people were accusing her of since her weight lose journey began) or “her body and face aren’t real, it’s all surgery,” is messed up. Celebrity or not, they are real people and they have feelings.

@@Kikibeeee Oh, I completely understand all that. Believe me, I do!! I have a daughter that wants to be an actress. She’s still very young and is just starting but I had a very long talk with her to EVERYTHING she will face in pursuit of a serious acting career. It’s sucks, but this is what comes with being a huge star!! There is a big pay off, but they also sacrifice a lot!! Im not trying to say they are less human, but these people aren’t dumb. They see the lives of previous super stars and know the scrutiny that comes with it. Doja can defend herself and she should. Unfortunately, she made herself look guilty as sin with the manner in which she addressed this situation. If she is going to freak out like this, then she needs to do something else because this isn’t the first time this will happen or the last. Unfortunately, this mess comes with the territory.🤷🏽‍♀️

Yep unfortunately

the way she responded also started making ppl say lorry's video must be true b/c why else would doja be mad and I think that part also may not help her

But also there's normal people (who aren't famous) who'd react in the same way doja did, I think because of how she reacted her live was just a raw reaction to finding/hearing about lorry's video more than it really being about lorry - I know she really came for her but we do tend to say things we regret when we get heated doesn't make it right but it does make us human

Lol

@@amberlewis561 I understand what you mean but Doja has to understand or at least team has to make her understand is that she is not as small as she used to be. She’s a huge celebrity now that has a big platform and with a platform that big if you give your opinion on a person (like in this case) fans will flock over to that person and send hate EVERYWHERE. I understand that Doja was mad, understandable, but she shouldn’t have went on live and say all those things about Lorry. Especially since Lorry never said anything mean about Doja.

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Her reaction did make me extremely sad my opinion has certainly changed

In what way was she chill? sure she was outspoken but not chill.But I fully agree with her even if she went too far snaping at that girl.While the girl meant no harm,I don't think making videos of people you dont know will help young girls but maybe make them more insecure.

She’s comparing heavily edited photos to old candids and using that as “evidence” of procedures when most of what she suggested could easily be explained by other means…. It’s misleading.

@@AnnaMorgause well editing your photos and passing it off as your real self is also problematic for young girls so the point still stands

THIS! like i feel bad for her for not only this reason but just in general having to say over and over that you’re natural and i honestly think she was fed up. It sucks that even tho she really lost the weight and her face looks a bit different cuz of it and makeup/ageing - but everyone will still say it’s surgery without putting all the evidence together. And that this video of her losing it, will now allow everyone will use this as a reason to say she got surgery cuz it clearly “hit a nerve” or she’s so “defensive.”

@@michaelscott2509 Humans really are a bunch of really strange empathetic creatures, aren't they? People getting pissed from false allegations suddenly means "oh ho they have something to hide", not because, you know, they got poked by a goddamned stick one too many times.

@@crowdemon_archives straight up, this is literally kind of the case where your parents/teacher/employer/coworker accuse you of something and then think you did it cuz you literally get mad and defensive. Like usually liars are just calm about it and try to overexplain.

Lol then dont become a celeberty, comes with the job.

@@michaelscott2509 bro, she's a celebrity. If she is that thin skinned, she shouldn't have become one.

she didnt get plastic surgery its all make up

@@maillediallo6157 I agree 💯

Lorry takes this into account. If you didn’t watch the video then fair enough but Lori is extremely respectful and never says anyone has definitely had anything done Edit: spelling

@@Sophassofa You ever think maybe Lori just says that so she doesn’t get in trouble for slander? Doja cat feeling disrespected by this is extremely valid. I wouldn’t like seeing someone that has a lot of followers/influence pretty much speculating that her brand is a lie.

@@rainbowlibra no because how could she know for sure. Thats the whole point. I’ve actually interacted with Lori before and she’s a total sweetheart. She’s extremely respectful of everyone, does extensive research with an assistant and is completely open to the fact that she will get things incorrect.

It really is and it's annoying and of course since this is out now it def wont help doja but she has a whole community behind her to defend her so I really hope for the best

yeah like I see both sides but most of all I get why she reacted how she did and agree with you

I think that if someone doesn’t see that as a compliment, they see surgery as negative and should work on that.

Also, didn’t she insult Lorry? Very empowering to women.

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b thankfully no one is obligated to accept whatever comments you dishout at people as compliments and whether or not you accept your compliment didnt land or lashout and accuse people of things, your reaction to rejection is more telling on you, than the person you tried to compliment.

Maybe no surgery but she's avg until she does a ton of makeup...

@@dbradford259 That's a lot of words for I've never made a girl orgasm before.

@@SurplusMilk Savage 😂

Your dad is a plastic surgeon, you’re not.

Ohh terrific.....your dads a PS Huh? But your nottt......riiiteee???

It's the Circle of life.

fr i still haven’t forgotten when her fans called her out for partying w kendall jenner she called them lazy slobs for not getting tested 🗿

For someone who has a body positivity brand (which she doesn't she just happens to look good) she sure did attack another woman for her looks quite viciously.

I used to really like her but I feel like there’s a lot of hypocrisy here claiming she’s about body positivity and then bullying and shaming another woman’s looks. Just puts a bad taste in my mouth

Either way doja is lying so... she's still a dick

Yeah lorry is upfront about her plastic surgery. She's even talked about her botched nose job and everything. She says at the beginning that it is speculative. I think Doja was just heavy handed in her own reply which is going to do nothing but cause more people to make videos on if she actually had plastic surgery. Your gonna see a Streisand effect start running with this one.

I think someone who has a career based on examining plastic surgery would be able to account for make-up and filters.

Eeeeehhhh..... do people forget about how photography works? Despite how standardised cameras are nowadays, you can have multiple photographers with the same gears shooting the same person at the same time, but somehow each one of the resulted shots can vary quite wildly.

Plus editing !!!! Most pictures of celebs you find on the Internet or edit it to a degree. Like I think it’s so stupid that this woman is nitpicking every little thing about Doja’s body, it just feels invalidating and uncalled for Really.

As a woman I'll take abet that she atleast had a breat reduction.. I mean the pic with her and the comment about her nose the shape of the nose were very different between the 2 pics

That’s what I thought. The biggest difference I seen was that the in the before pictures. She was clearly heavier

Although Lori never says the HAVE had something done. That’s the whole point it’s speculation. Lori is a sweetheart I’ve communicated with her many times she is not malicious and she has never said anyone has definitely had any work done. She does extensive research for every video and is extremely respectful and does take into full account things like ageing and weight change.

@@HeyitsBri_ she also has no stretch marks that everyone man or women gets when they loose significant weight. I count significant amount when it's clearly visible that they've lost weight. She also went from her breasts sagging to smaller and not sagging...

"A lot of the photos she used to compare before and after's had years between them" that's what u do to see if people got stuff dome or not. compare photo before and after success, before and after they got the money to get stuff done

Not by that much

Cap

@@datura_boof exactly. That RU-vidr is capping. Saying Doja had a ponytail facelift and blephroplasty is ridiculous. No surgeon is going to do a blephroplasty and ponytail facelift. The patient wouldn't be able to close their eyes shut ever again. 🤦

@@Freya1412 gabi demartino got a a ponytail facelift and upper blephoroplasty at the same time. She has a video about all the surgeries she got. And the doctor did 4 surgeries at the same time and those were two of them.

@@FragranceEuphoria doctors can do multiple surgeries at the same time, I never disputed that, but a blephroplasty is made redundant if you've had a ponytail facelift. The risk of not being able to completely shut the eyelids is too high. The only reason they might do it is if the patient has severe hooded eyelids and in that case it's more therapeutic than for cosmetic reasons. I don't who Gabi Demartino.

@@Freya1412 gabi is a 20 something year old on RU-vid. She did not have hooded eyes at all. I agree with you it shouldn’t be done both at the same time but many doctors still do it. Some doctors only care about money and obviously gabi’s did.

I mean if someone started making baseless accusations about you and proclaiming them as the truth wouldn’t you be upset? People are so quick to forget that celebrities are people too. Y’all put celebs on a pedestal like they can’t do anything wrong in their lives and if they do they’re a horrible person 🤷🏽‍♀️

@@missgurl218 no i wouldnt be as you said "upset" though in my view it looks like she is more "lashing out in anger" then being "upset" also the girl was only guessing on her which is fine to do end of day as nothing wrong with guessing on subjects or people as humans have been doing that since start of time.

@@ravenspurplebeats5412 if someone was making a claim that is untrue about me and proclaiming that to an audience I think most people would be pretty upset by that. Like if someone was spreading rumors about you in highschool, no one would be happy with that bruh

@@missgurl218 thats just your take then, as i wouldnt care much if stuff was said about me but you do you end of day, also the guesses she was making wasnt really that offensive also, like if it was death threat sure that be other story but guessing she had "cosmetics" isnt anywhere close to level of "death threat" end of day. Though if you react like her in nasty way because if somthing this minor/tiny you have lot to learn.

@@ravenspurplebeats5412 I mean she’s spreading lies to people … it doesn’t really matter what the lies are about. Especially since Doja is all about body positivity. She has every right to be upset and no one can tell her otherwise. The only thing I had an issue with is Doja coming for that girls looks

What's hilarious is her temper tantrum made Lorry's video get EXPONENTIALLY more views than it would have if she didn't whine about it. If she had just let it go and not acted like a spoiled child and hadn't even addressed it, it wouldn't have remotely been as big news as it is.

I don’t know cause personally I wouldn’t feel right either if someone was nitpicking and over analyzing every little inch of my body, even if it was just their “opinion “. Like it would make me so uncomfortable that someone is that focused on if one of my boobs bigger than the other, or if my nose looks slightly skinnier

@@camicrossman4655 well they would if you made it a brand…… just like Kim Kardashian’s did and ppl did the same to her, you can’t put the focus on your body and not expect ppl to focus on your body. That’s dumb logic

Plus in that part of the video where she says it looks doja’s eyes are less “tall”, she genuinely looks a little high

Not wrong but doja is very very insecure. Love when everyday people hit the 1% right in the nerve.

Lori takes that into account.

@@cubanknightmare4126 for what? Doja is a normal person, so why take pleasure in seeing her in distress, for no reason other than she’s rich and famous? It’s not like she’s had a history of kicking puppies or something

@@PrincessZaire100 for no reason other than shamelessly copyright striking videos

This! Not to mention if she didn’t get surgery which she claims she didn’t, a video like that will make people think that she’s lying anyway

You aren't a celebrity, by making the CHOICE to be a celebrity and being in the spotlight, that makes them topic of discussion. If they do not want people to talk about them, they should choose a different career.

exactly if someone was speculating on you like this you’d probs be defensive like doja, it’s super weird. celebs are people too.

@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 this is such a bad attitude. So you're saying that since they are celebrities, they can't have any privacy? Is it okay to break into their home because they are a celebrity? If not, then their medical history is none of our business either. There is a discussion to be had about unrealistic expectations, but pointing fingers at certain celebrities to speculate is not the way to do so.

At the end of the day people will judge and criticize people regardless of their famous and sexuality and etc. and we got to deal with it period

So true! And I really like lora so I don't like this situation 😬

I said the same. But hey, she has had a good minute to come back and apologize... especially considering what is happening in Ukraine. Anyway- I have always liked Doja's music and still do... but she isn't a nice person.

It's not an excuse to hurt people

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Yes, I think people forget that celebrities are people too. We shouldn't get to decide how they should feel or respond to critiques. There might have been a "professional" way to respond, but I can't imagine receiving thousands of criticism every day. Then you see someone monetizing on blatant speculations on your body.

You said it all. It feels so icky with that RU-vidr analyzing her.

exactly!!!

Have you ever watched a video of Lorry? She have never shame any celebrity and she is indeed very respetful with them too. She always said that she is not saying any facts just her opionions and she is not trying to put them down she is actually pro plastic surgery. The intention of the channel of Lorry is to educate people cause now a days we life with such high beauty standards and a lot of celebrities sell a false image of perfection, and them the rest of the people cannot understand why they did not "glow up" as their favorite celebrity (and we have a lot of celebrities denying pretty obvious plastic surgery as Bella Hadid) I am not saying Doja has or doesnt have PS, I dont care either, I love her music in any ways. However, satanizing plastic surgery is not ok, not because someone has plastic surgery it means that this person is less beautiful (and is not an insult either) , second the way she refer to Lorry was pretty bad and the way she talk about her make a lof of toxic fans to send death threats to Lorry and thats mess up.

@UCmlTlwT9Xin3fhVeO2NSVzQ I hope we can respectfully disagree because I feel like plastic surgery is personal. Like if that person wanna be confirm it, that should be up to them. Like Queen Latifah we all know her preference but no one has ever asked her to confirm. Let respectfully disagree 💕

Well she's been dissected for years it'd hypocritical to only go at lorry so hard and aggressively

@@Thebeezzkneezz. I didn't see the whole video. I only seen Atozy clips. She said Lorry has plastic surgery. Yeah, that's very clear to see. She went online just like Lorry went online. I guess I see this as a clap back on a video made about her. I guess they are both hypocrites and aggressive because without solid proof it's pretty aggressive to go online (which she can) and make these claims. I just made a comment. This stuff is not that serious to me. Everyone has the right to whichever side they pick.

@@Thebeezzkneezz. that doesn't really make a lot of sense. Everyone has self control and also a breaking point.

@@Kenzirs if her breaking point was a small youtubers opinion she has thin skin 💁‍♀️ppl picked on Jacquelyn hill for years even when she begged them to stop and lorry was quite respectful with her wording and always said it was her opinion

She was

She sounds intoxicated A LOT. Almost every time I see her on a live online she’s messed up on something. The girl needs help!

@@hwoods-kg1jf because she drinks? Y'all overreact way too damn much over celebs. God forbid they smoke weed or drink! 😱

@@hwoods-kg1jf She a grown woman, she can drink. The lives prob aren’t a good idea tho lololol

I've only ever seen her intoxicated

reminds me of the saying "only hit dogs holler"

🤣 when worlds collide (i totes agree with you, i've seen this too. all the denials, all the apology tours.........)

ok...

We all have an opinion, Lorry has hers. She didn't share it in a hateful way. Sometimes I think she can go a bit overboard as I think a lot of it is retouching as well but she always gives good insight and reasoning into her opinions.

Same

claiming that a 26 year old got a FACELIFT, are you insane?

This!! I don't think Doja is in the wrong and Lorry's content is built off speculation

This whole thing just feels like dumbfuckery all around imo.

It just feels like a big ass back handed compliment. It’s like these “relationship therapist” that make videos on celebrity relationships and claim it’s all for “educational purposes”. I don’t think people understand how WEIRD that is

Just alcoholic things.

She’s not an “influencer”, where did you get that dumb idea?

Kylies surgeon spoke up?

I get that but tbf the RU-vidr did say that it was all just her opinion and just said what procedures that she thinks the changes look like, she doesn't at any point say anything is factual or proven.

Nah I love doja but this was an immature response. Lori is extremely respectful and is clear about it being speculative

I think people forget she’s an actual person

As someone who wears a lot of makeup, I can tell that she didn't get anything done. It's so obvious, idk how a plastic surgeon can't tell the difference

Or, you know, cameras.

@@anonymousbitch7735 SAME!

@@anonymousbitch7735 as some who wears a lot of make up, oh she did. Just because she didn’t make significant changes doesn’t mean she didn’t get any. People want natural looks for surgery

@@anonymousbitch7735 the nose stop growing like at 13 lmao and weight doesn't alter the shape of the nose soooooo yeah :)

Exactly