Exactly! She disregard's men's experiences with domestic violence and makes it all about women. Typical feminist and social justice warrior, fighting for so called "equality" when in fact all they want is to reverse the roles of gender superiority!
Women make sexist jokes about men all the time and men don't demand the special snowflake treatment in response! Such a double standard and completely hypocritical.
Wow no, no its not, how can you say that when almost every industry (including female dominant industries) pay men dramatically better? This is just one aspect of the privilege and rape culture that is perpetuated by this kind of opinion
Brad East I work in a female dominated industry and all staff are paid according to skill level and qualification. This has nothing to do with gender. I have discussed this in my own workplace and we get paid the same hourly rate for the same job.
Is that for the government? Lucky you! Do some research on the rest of the job-world... AAAAAANd like I said that is just ONE aspect, where are your arguments for the others?
Your full of it Brad. Women get paid the same as men for the same job and same work. Look at the career choice differences between men and women. Hardly any women go to engineering, IT, etc, and instead flood childcare and other lower paying industries. The gender pay gap is a myth based on CHOICES
um... serious question, someone please respond. what was the gasp for? i've listened twice and he says "just because you're a woman doesn't mean you're the only one who can get upset about this." isn't he, in effect, saying, "i'm upset by this too. it's not a gender this, it's a human thing." ??? have i grossly misinterpreted? did he commit major misogyny?
Anything someone who is a narcissist finding a reason to become a victim and talk about the same regeratation of the same speech she says to the mirror everyday. She uses the crowd to bolster her selfish needs.
Imagine him in a debate against Van Badham, Clementine Ford, Mia Freedman, Catherine Lumby and the like. It would be a bloodbath (oops I shouldn't say that, it could be construed as violence against women)
I found Van Badham comment regarding her ovaries as sexist. Imagine if Price stated this when Van Badham was having her tantrum. Good on Price for sticking up for himself and males generally.
that comment was intentionally sarcastic. she just summarised exactly what price was trying to say - her views are not valid because her ovaries are making her hysterical
The questioner says, "Men's violence is the leading cause of death for women under 45 yrs in Australia"..... Absolute rubbish! Get fact check to give you the truth!
@@BoiseLouYou are simply falling into the trap of using identity politics to divide people. Every problem in this world cannot be assessed in such a simplistic way, because if the analysis is that simplistic the remedy will be similarly insane. To put my answer simply: every person is capable of doing good or evil. The problem is not male/female, black/white, Muslim/Christian etc etc . And furthermore you may need to avoid seeing women always as "victims". It's not helpful to women and it's highly misleading. Women have agency too.
I think its unfair how she put this back on Steve. Once she found that the crowd had her support she pounced on him. You can see the point where he is totally screwed and beyond the point of return. I would have just shut up and let her have her soap box until she ran out of breath.
Price didn't get her point that male violence towards women starts with casual sexism. And anyone who would deny it exists need only read some of the posts here. He made it about himself.
as Mr X clearly stated there's actually no scientific evidence or research that says casual sexism or sexist jokes are statically significant in directly or indirectly causing abuse. It's what the media and government churn out to zombies like yourself who instantly eat up rhetoric like this as if it was gospel.
How can any sane person watch this and be on Van’s side. She implied that he has been involved in similar conversations and he asked her to retract it. She then, rather than apologising and moving on, decided to try and twist this around and make him the bad guy. Somehow she gets away with this.
Shame being thrown around like that is disgusting and the only point proved was she doesn't care about Steve's feelings while expecting the world to bow down to hers. The audience are clapping seals, that gasp was the most pathetic contribution to humanity I've felt for a while. So selfish very very selfish!!
Thank you for making this segment from Q&A available on-line. Steve Price ignored the audience member's painful personal story and question. Instead, he used the moment to defend his mates: a group of men joking about drowning a woman, then defending themselves. When Van Badham sought to address the issue of violence against women, Steve Price repeatedly interrupted her, then dismissed her insightful comments as being "hysterical".
Milo Yiannopoulos summed up Western society to absolute perfection. This is a perfect example of it. We live in a post fact era. People's emotions are all that matter. Stating facts is not good enough anymore, you have to deliver information in an empathetic manner or it's meaningless. Please Trump, just push that launch button and save as all from ourselves.
Putting Van Badham and Steve Price together, not only on the same panel, but right beside each other? Classic combination of viewing and audience baiting. The producers of Q&A are masters of this. These two weren't put on the show for their views on this topic. They were picked because neither would be able to help themselves and the coverage from the fallout would shoot right up.
Putting all things aside, can I just ask, how does one stab another to death with a meat cleaver? Why do we use dramatic language over descriptively accurate language?
There is difference between jokes and fiscal harm How many people got told the joke Put your in water three times leave it in the water after third It's a joke people grow up
These comments have not aged well and a lot of you really need help. Van is absolutely on the money here; Steve comes off as a completely disingenuous tool. Van's not saying only women can get angry about Domestic Violence, she's saying stop excusing inappropriate behaviour as 'boys will be boys' and the fact that Steve can stare that statement in the face and say 'you're being hysterical' is downright disgraceful. The crowd's reaction says it all.
Except there's no evidence to suggest that jokes have any link to perpetuating domestic violence. Poverty and addiction, on the other hand, are both clearly linked to it. Van was being hysterical.
It never ceases to amaze me the biased and one sided left wing audience Q&A get to their shows. And how is saying Men can get just as upset as Women about things so controversial to the crowd????.
This woman did not address the issues surrounding the joke but spoke from a predetermined paradigm that had very little to do with the context. In the same manner she judged Steve Price by that paradigm. Consequently, both she and the audience only heard what they were preconditioned to hear rather than the words he was actually using. Resulting in motives and actions that being attributed to Steve that he did not hold nor had expressed. Steve would have been better served to have kept his mouth shut because there is no way he would have been able to correct her view nor to explain himself. But I guess if he did he would not be Steve. BTW, hysteria has nothing to do with the ovaries. It is about the womb, hence hysterectomy. You would think that women' issues person would have known that often talked about point.
She was talking about this person can talk down to this person but not the other way around and we need to have a discussion about whatever but she had zero interest in having a discussion she just wanted to talk over him 🤷♂️
Price had done nothing wrong. She expresses need to discuss and debate an issue yet completely disregards others opinions. Price get crucified for having an opinion, what a joke!
look how programmed the audience is....they ooh and ahh and applause at ANY chance they get to act outraged at some modern day PC nuance....so pitiful ......Steve you are totally in the right here...nothing is surer
hahah the audiences are primed to be followers....star worshipers....forget your coalition crap comment...the applause comes from SJW dickheads...there are enough of them around now....
This "Bad Ham" lady needs some more "man-splaining" from common sense advocates like Steve. She contradicted herself so many times in this short segment, that I got dizzy just watching it. I find the whole thing cringe-worthy, and I can only imagine how hard working women who don't see themselves as part of this radical wave of Feminists would feel after seeing the public reaction to it. #GetMiloToOzNow
What am I missing here? As a female, I find this woman INSUFFERABLE. I'm so sick of the holier than thou attitude that nee age "feminists" continue to portray. Most women I know would NOT claim that chick.
Interesting that the comments are all from men. They prove her point perfectly... that men cannot understand or see the unjust way many women are treated just because they are female. He talked over her and tried to silence her. She was never hysterical and made her point well. The more equal women are in a society the better the society does. When men stand up for and beside the women in their lives and others, those are real men.
She was not hysterical. If a man acted the same way he would be praised for being assertive. And he was being extremely rude by talking over her. We will never resolve differences unless we are willing to listen to each other and shut up when someone else is talking.
Well first of all, Van was praised by both the audience, and the media for her comments. "If a man acted the same way he would be praised for being assertive" Where is your evidence for this shite? And I don't want a personal story, I want empirical evidence. As for him being extremely rude for talking over her, well they are both on a show where such is common. Therefore that behaviour is to be expected. Does that excuse his behaviour? No. What does excuse his interruption, is the fact that at 2:04 she tries to lump him in with Eddie and co with "as one of those blokes". She therefore implies that he is normalising violence against women and therefore condones violence against women. That is quite a vile accusation. I'm glad that he called her out over it.
She would not let him finish kept interrupting , talked over him and she tried to shut him down .Emotionally driven lacking any real solid facts . The plant she put in the audience that had his sister killed was killed by a indian and they tried to lump that on Australian culture !! She was very dishonest and used emotions to gain sympathy and support .
I cant believe she got applauded. Her initial comment to Steve, 'Im sure you've been in on the same jokes'. Then to follow up with a diatribe about dont paint men/women with the one brush. To handle that level of hypocracy calmly would take real restraint.
I love how she used that guys story to push her own agenda of hatred of men and as all feminist do use sad stories to generalize all men and deflect arguments hardcore
I think we can sympathize deeply with the man that opens this bit, but his sister being killed with a meat cleaver doesn't suggest her partner did it because he was a male. I think following stats based on gender is borderline retarded. There are more dominant factors at play. And while it's 2020 now, I'd very much like to see the stats (and I'm going to look them up now), on how many men killed their partners because they were men... and how many men killed their spouse/partner with a meat cleaver. That tragedy, it isn't capable of being normalized. Always count on Van Badham to ride that horse though. She even says the challenges are multi faceted. So, why doesn't she back that up?
