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Thinking about investing in a new cinema camera for documentary filmmaking? Watch this first! It can be really easy these days to think that we can’t be “real” filmmakers if we don’t have the newest and best tech out there, but in this video I want to challenge that idea and push you to look at other options so you can spend your money actually making films.
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@scotey
@scotey 6 месяцев назад
"If you can't film a beautiful documentary with an FS7 or an FS5, you're not going to be able to do it with an FX6 or an Alexa LF." Well said, Luc. You have a gift for being candid without being insulting.
@SuLu_B
@SuLu_B 6 месяцев назад
I think the key is ease of use! I used some absolutely horrid cameras for projects in college, but I managed to get really great images out of them by working around the shortcomings. These older cameras can still shoot with incredible quality, but the number of things you'll need to consider or potentially work around is of course going to be higher vs a newer, more technically advanced system.
@sammorganmoore
@sammorganmoore 6 месяцев назад
As an fs7 owner.. id say yes it is OK, but it was always waiting in the wings for a smaller af version that is the fx6. My opinon is the fs7 is quite a barrier to shooting fliud doc work vs the fx6. But of course for certainl looks.. like hunting manual focus it is fine
@WestonChilders
@WestonChilders 6 месяцев назад
Well stated, just finished shooting a 3rd feature this year on the FS7
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks my friend, much appreciated!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
yep! not saying it's better, it's definitely not...but more accessible for a lot of people and still looks great.
@psynuxx
@psynuxx 6 месяцев назад
Please don’t stop making videos outside or on-location like this. The fact you aren’t using LED lights and acoustic panels like every other RU-vidr is what makes you more credible, aside from the fact you are a full time DP. I am just beginning with my hobby as a cinematographer with my LUMIX S5iix, and I’m just glad I found your channel before I went to crazy with ‘gear’ on the advice of other RU-vidrs! Stay warm out there in the Arctic!
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 6 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, but sound is more or as important as the picture, and good lighting is the trick to good results. Even for landscape stuff, lighting ends up being the weather and time of day chosen
@psynuxx
@psynuxx 6 месяцев назад
@@mikafoxx2717 I never said sound wasn't important, what are you talking about? In fact I'm a mastering engineer by trade. I was responding to his lack of 'RU-vidr' setup.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
thanks, much appreciated! 🥶
@SbolenseMedia
@SbolenseMedia 6 месяцев назад
I am 100% behind this. I have never bought a new camera. DOPs take such good care of their equipment that buying second hand is a no brainer. Thank you for this
@lachlanharmer985
@lachlanharmer985 6 месяцев назад
100% agree. I picked up a FS7 mk1 from a DP who upgraded to the FX6. It was pretty much a entire kit with minus the v-lock batteries, lenses and audio gear. All of which I already owned. I've been using the FS7 filming interviews, conferences, sports and weddings. The last 3 videos on my channel are all shot with the FS7. It's fun using a purpose built video camera that I don't have to baby around like its brand new. One thing, the ND filters are a little funky when they click over, nothing I'm worried about though.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
This is the way!
@elgrau
@elgrau 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on your FS7, it is still produces a stunning image.
@davidwebb091370
@davidwebb091370 5 месяцев назад
i'm glad i found your channel, Luc! It's a gem for aspiring filmmakers and just about anybody that's a fan of filmmaking in general. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge on RU-vid! More power to you!
@MatixLA
@MatixLA 3 дня назад
I purchased an FS7 kit on ebay with everything except a V mount battery and a lens, everything else including a VTC plate, rods, Vmount adapter and all by tilta was included. Most of all it came all in a Jason Case. Ive only had it for a week and I love it and the image is fantastic. Kep up the good work Luc.
@williamsmiga7547
@williamsmiga7547 6 месяцев назад
Wow! Easiest subscription I’ve ever made. This is awesome, man!
@Maros_Mari
@Maros_Mari 6 месяцев назад
Hey Luc, thanks for the valid points on buying new gear. I agree, it makes sense to get used gear which can serve well. I personally invested almost 10 years ago into Fuji system for photography and then slowly transitioned towards video work. This year I decided to take filmmaking work seriously, so I sold it all, as I am making a leap of faith into Sony system planning to get an fx3 - found best price in Thailand /new minus tax, for price of used one elsewhere - buying in Asia makes alot of sense/ so Im going to invest into the filmmaking part of my creative journey soon.
@Sad_Matt-mj8tb
@Sad_Matt-mj8tb 6 месяцев назад
I’m out here trying to make a documentary with a lumix gx85, so I needed this video.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
more than good enough!
@TheWeddingGuest.
@TheWeddingGuest. 6 месяцев назад
Great video and insights. A nice reminder to look at past gen gear before shelling out for the latest and greatest.
@felipecordero3
@felipecordero3 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Luc, about to shoot a doc in the following days, with a Gh5 M2 and a Canon C70 in Ecuador in the Andean mountains, for us, these camaras are more than enough. Your advice is crucial and always helpful. Thanks again sir 👍👍👍
@freestyleproduction1
@freestyleproduction1 6 месяцев назад
You are always Spot on man. Thanks for the down to earth commentary on your thoughts regarding subjects we filmmakers can get consumed by
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks man!
@Okeimas
@Okeimas 6 месяцев назад
I really love your content and it was super inspiring for my career. I'm an audio guy from Argentina and I wanted to ask you about what sound equipment your are using for your outdoor filming here at your channel? of course if you want to make a more pro approach and tell us more about the audio team you work with, it would be super cool! Thanks Luc!
@kingmuhu
@kingmuhu 6 месяцев назад
Awesome advice. GL in the wild out there!
@Supercon57
@Supercon57 6 месяцев назад
I make a spread sheet with all of the cameras I'm considering with all of the features they have When you see them all laid out with a price tag you see how going one/two generations back is a no brainer It's crazy how certain gear is seen as "old" when it's VERY capable, especially in the right hands
@LukeDewar
@LukeDewar 6 месяцев назад
Would you be able to share this spreadsheet please?
@samtelford1792
@samtelford1792 6 месяцев назад
Hey man, I recently sold my blackmagic 12k as I saw the price of the fs7’s, your video has just validated my decision to pick one up as the replacement, these cameras are work horses & there is a lot more important things that go into producing a great image than the camera body itself, great video 👏🏼
@custommadename
@custommadename 6 месяцев назад
I bought an FS700 used, upgraded it so I can shoot 12-bit 4K raw, bought an F55 used a year later, and about two years later bought a brand new FX30. The FX30 was rented out before I had gotten it in the mail. People are excited about new cameras, but unless you're renting, you can get as good or better image quality from used cameras, as you've said. I just directed a feature-length documentary in Mexico, and we shot it with two FX30s as the B cams and an FS7 II as the A cam. We shot with a kit lens, a Zeiss photo lens, and a set of Fujinon MK lenses. It was an awesome time shooting with 3 cameras regardless of what they were. Also, a week or two ago, I bought a used F3.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Well said!
@MindfulGrinds
@MindfulGrinds 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate this video so much because I feel pressure to get rid of my two fully rigged out fs5mii’s. I picked up an A7SIII used recently with the intention of doing some RU-vid stuff. Thanks for your incredible insight!
@davidblumenthal1771
@davidblumenthal1771 6 месяцев назад
Excellent advice. I agree with everything you said.
@cheezus9625
@cheezus9625 6 месяцев назад
Buying a cheap used FS7 last year was my best gear investment to date. If you work in TV, there are only so many cameras that producers are comfortable shooting on and the FS7 is still the most common (FX line quickly catching up). I paid it off in no time with kit fees
@robpullen
@robpullen 6 месяцев назад
I love this vid. So first of all thank you. I’ve been a very casual RU-vidr over the last few years but I wanna step it up in the new year by filming stuff around my local town for a RU-vid channel. I want to call them docs but I’m sure they’ll be far from that. My point is that I have an old dlsr and I’ve been looking at upgrading but didn’t even consider the types of cameras you mentioned. I will definitely have a look at used stuff and although a cinema camera won’t suit my style as I’ll be more vlogging and adding timelapse stuff to the channel but it’s really made me think. Thanks again. ATB
@joenicklo
@joenicklo 6 месяцев назад
I didn’t even think about it - but my last 3 cameras have been used or “open box”. Wise advice in this video! Batteries are the only thing I won’t buy used.
@MajorGeneralHavoc
@MajorGeneralHavoc 6 месяцев назад
love this!! thx man!
@Renaldo868
@Renaldo868 6 месяцев назад
here is my take, if you have a big grew and a large budget then you don't need the latest camera gear, just experienced lighting and good lenses. if it's just you and your lonesome tryna get things done, buy a FX3 so you can let the camera do the heavy lifting so you can focus more on the story and the image.
@kerouacf0069
@kerouacf0069 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your solid advice, I'm applying your advice for my stills equipment, and the wee bit of film that I do. All singing all dancing equipment don't mean squat if you have not got the skill set. I love your channel, for inspiration.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks man, appreciate it!
@godsfilmmaker8863
@godsfilmmaker8863 6 месяцев назад
This is one of the best videos on the subject I’ve seen, I almost didn’t click on it because I thought it was going to be one of those “gear doesn’t matter videos“. And it’s actually really balanced, and I appreciate the advice!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Gear definitely matters (at least to me)...glad you liked this one!
@robertwmoore
@robertwmoore 6 месяцев назад
Thankyou for the information
@andrewhortoncomms
@andrewhortoncomms 6 месяцев назад
Super helpful. More helpful that I thought it would be.
@scsl6797
@scsl6797 6 месяцев назад
What a wise point of view ! Bravo !
@retrohorrorthrills
@retrohorrorthrills 6 месяцев назад
My biggest thrill this year was picking up an original Canon c300. It was so far out of my price range at 16K when it first came out 11 years ago. I spent $750 and another $500 for the dual pixel upgrade. Love it. Still a great camera. No one will ever know. Great video. Thanks!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
No one will every know! Truth.
@matadormartin
@matadormartin 6 месяцев назад
If Matt Heineman can shoot Cartel Land on one with two totally affordable lenses, you can go out and shoot something amazing too! 👍
@kylesimmons6692
@kylesimmons6692 6 месяцев назад
Good information ❤
@M2008tw
@M2008tw 6 месяцев назад
Lots of good advice here. This year I inherited quite a bit of money, so I was able to invest in new equipment, but I bought most of it second-hand. In fact, I have a new customer that I have bought from who would like to cooperate and who would possibly like to rent what I have bought should he need it. I have saved a lot this way and at the same time made some new contacts. I would just like to add that I have never bought really expensive equipment and that I am in a place that is more of a hybrid between photo but mostly film. Thank you for sharing.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Great call - love this approach!
@FishVisionsMedia
@FishVisionsMedia 6 месяцев назад
Luc is officially my favorite RU-vid channel. Cant wait to watch this vid!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
And this is officially my favourite comment!
@romankuhler
@romankuhler 6 месяцев назад
Thx Luc🤙🏼 I love the Image of trafficked. 1080 has something so smooth that makes it so nice to watch. Have a great day😉👍👍👍
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
I prefer it as well!
@ReelFilm2016
@ReelFilm2016 6 месяцев назад
Great video. I love making content. If the truth be told, I have no idea about many technical aspects of filmmaking. I never learnt the real craft that many professionals have. However, I do believe that you can make an excellent documentary using cameras for under £1000. It’s all about having a clear idea, planning and a willingness to learn about how technology can be your friend. I have learnt so much in the last few years. Keep up the great work and thanks for helping everyone to spend wisely.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Well said my friend!
@RobPerreault
@RobPerreault 6 месяцев назад
Well done bro, love the campfire vibes.
@cheavideography781
@cheavideography781 6 месяцев назад
THis is my setup: Sony FS5 + Metabones EF-E T CINE Ultra 0.71x + Shogun Inferno= The image that I get is amazing, plus I have the Slomo 120 and 240 without cropping. I just bought the FX30 for gimbal work but other than that I just love my FS5!
@josephberkeley
@josephberkeley 2 месяца назад
Great video. Smart advice.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@nicoarcenas
@nicoarcenas 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for your invaluable advice and insights. They're so good, it's really for a lot of genres even for the run-of-the-mill Tiktok or YT content creators. Allow me to feedback though that while watching, a few times I was itching to see footage from the cameras that you mentioned you used. Would've love to see them, it would've really painted the picture better for us.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Good notes...thanks!
@chrisjonesfilm
@chrisjonesfilm 6 месяцев назад
As filmmakers, it's very easy for us to fall prey to the hype beast of modern camera companies' marketing techniques. *Especially* young filmmakers, who really believe that the newest, latest, and greatest will put them ahead of the pack. To quote a cinematography legend: "I'd shoot it on an iPhone if it suited the story." To young filmmakers, I'd recommend renting and testing lots of used cameras, and figuring out what you like- not what Sony or Canon tell you you should like. Great video Luc, thanks for creating for us.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
You're very welcome my friend!
@HumanAreYou
@HumanAreYou 6 месяцев назад
Yes. Most older cameras do most things alright. If what one has doesn't work in one very specific problem (something small, something with a high ISO) - it's always possible to rent for a short time.
@JonathanCabot
@JonathanCabot 6 месяцев назад
Please keep making these videos Luc
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
I plan on it!
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel 6 месяцев назад
I'm someone who is primarily shooting stills/photos... and after buying roughly ten Sony mirrorless cameras over the past ten years I'm now using two ten-year old cameras (Sony A6000 & Sony A77II). They both have Eye-AF and Face-Detect and produce 24mp images (which is plenty for me). I'm also using a ten-year old Zeiss Touit 32mm f1.8 on the A6000 & variety of Minolta and Sony glass on the A77II. I've not had one person look at my photos and comment that I'm using 'old tech'. The guidelines and contexts that you frame in this video are succinctly brilliant and very practical. Thanks for putting in the time to make this video and share it with fellow creatives!
@justinferrato
@justinferrato 6 месяцев назад
Yes - totally agree. Use the basics and limitations to expand your creativity. What do you think of the URSA Mini Pro 4.2k as a doc workhorse?
@paulgero
@paulgero 6 месяцев назад
Such wise advice Luc.
@lightcirclemedia8228
@lightcirclemedia8228 5 месяцев назад
You just convinced me to get imax camera, after that there won't be any complaints. Went to imax web, there is no purchase option. Nice video. I m going to stick with what I have.
@141450014145
@141450014145 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, a lot of solid points there - I appreciate that you took the time to put it together so nicely. One point I missed though: You didn't tell what the reason was, that they filmed a show like Trafficked on such an old camera. Sure it's possible, but was it done for monetary reasons? The DP had a bunch of them lying around and wanted to squeeze out a few more years? Availability of spare parts, if sth breaks at remote places? Just because it's possible doesn't mean you have to avoid an fx6 or fx9 on a big show like this...
@rosetofilms
@rosetofilms 6 месяцев назад
This is THE BEST camera buying advice I’ve seen on RU-vid.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
thanks friend!
@JoeVazquezProductorMusical
@JoeVazquezProductorMusical 6 месяцев назад
Hi buddy, I recently sold my FS7 to buy an FX6 for the reason that the FS7 is quite heavy "12 pounds" and I have to watch my back when I use a gimbal for some music videos and I also wanted the FX6 to have the RAW option without having to buy the FS7 adapter. But I'll be honest, I miss the FS7 for being a great and robust camera. Obviously I'm 10 pounds lighter now with the fx6 in action, full frame, 4k DCI 120 fps is a great tools for my workflorw, but at the end of the day the FS7 is a winner camera. Everything you said is very true. Greetings.
@mickyou86
@mickyou86 6 месяцев назад
Best advice i've seen in a while. Thanks for making this video. Its going to save a lot people money.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
I hope so!
@charlesteton
@charlesteton 6 месяцев назад
All very true… I have gone down same route but with Canon, now with 4K C300 MK II. Would I like MK III, yes sure but waiting for Canon’s next big Cinema range release and for prices to tumble. Depreciation is crazy at the minute. I bought my C300 MK II cheap, ex rental, with full Zacuto VCT shoulder rig, for £3,200 two years ago, now base 4K C300 MK II kit is selling between £1,600 and £2,000. Crazy! Keep up great work. C
@greggchristensen8524
@greggchristensen8524 6 месяцев назад
Great advise on photography and videography equipment. Thats what Ive been doing for years. But what I want to know is what gloves/mittens are you using in this video. They look very camera friendly?
@Themorningwalkpodcast
@Themorningwalkpodcast 5 месяцев назад
Dope video thanks
@TimScarfe
@TimScarfe 5 месяцев назад
Great video bro! I think you compressed your audio which lifted up the breath sounds quite a bit
@erikpreston2393
@erikpreston2393 6 месяцев назад
Luc, thanks so much for this video. What are the ways that you guard against "bad actors" in the marketplace? There's lots of scams as we all know. Thanks as always for your insightful, probative videos!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Erik, glad you liked it!
@lavinchi6709
@lavinchi6709 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much👑 Your words are really truth🎉
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
You're very welcome!
@johnclay7644
@johnclay7644 6 месяцев назад
great video luc, the new sony a9 mk III sounds like a good option (6K) thanks for the Networking video the other week very informative.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
You're welcome John!
@PelicanNorth
@PelicanNorth 6 месяцев назад
Gotta have those gloves! I'm in Minnesota, and just yesterday realized I needed fingerless gloves. Who makes the ones you have? Great camera advice, too!
@NewsOneLive
@NewsOneLive 6 месяцев назад
I just bought a full FS7 Mark11 camera package that looks like new with a 18 to 110 G PZ lens with batteries and Cards and a other stuff for $3500. I love the fact its S35 are soo good and soo cheap and don't get me started about the variable NDs. I really like the old school of a camera that can be shoulder mounted andin a second on a tripod. Hope to shoot more EPL's and BTS for films with it. The 3log3Cine looks great
@tomphan6397
@tomphan6397 5 месяцев назад
Skill is getting the best quality from a phone, dslr, cinema cam, light, lens, story. $100 D3300 and Z50 with Sigma 17-50 2.8 & 35 1.8 are my fav for run and gun docu and music video.
@markthompsonmedia
@markthompsonmedia 6 месяцев назад
I began with an existing investment in canon stills and got a C100 mk ii to explore video. That led me to an ENG style rig and the dream lens for that was the CN17x7! Years later, the price was right and by then the C300 mk ii was super affordable too. My dream rig for less than half of new prices 😃
@LMActionsports
@LMActionsports 5 месяцев назад
I picked up a Sony A9 in fair condition from KEH over three years ago for $2100 that didn’t come with the box or manual or anything. When it showed up it looked brand new and it only had 2100 on the shutter count. It’s been my action sports camera that still works perfectly to this day. I’ve been eyeballing a Sony FS5 mark two on Facebook marketplace for $1300 that comes with 18-105 lens and two batteries. But I decided since I am just getting into videography to build either my Sony A7rv or A7iv into a running gun video rig. I bought all the accessories and built up my A7iv and turned it into my dedicated video rig and I still use my A7rv for my portraits and family photos I take. I figured instead of buying a dedicated video camera just built one up and work with what I got. My main business is portraits but I want to and start offering videography to my clients. great video by the way I just found your channel and I am a couple in of your work and I really enjoy your content.
@keithnisbet
@keithnisbet 6 месяцев назад
Brilliant breath of fresh air and common sense on YT!!!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@nathananderson8720
@nathananderson8720 6 месяцев назад
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my RU-vid channel 8 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,093 subs and > 900 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
@esterhammerfic
@esterhammerfic 6 месяцев назад
Hell yeah dude, it's a long game building up an audience
@nathananderson8720
@nathananderson8720 6 месяцев назад
@@esterhammerfic Whoever you are, I don't know you personally but I can say that you're one of the non-judgmental and open-minded people who is not fixated on tangible or external factors in order to learn from someone like me. Just because someone doesn't have a piece of paper as a credential, doesn't mean that person is not entitled to share personal experiences with the hope & intention to inspire others. Keep up with whatever it is that you're doing to improve mankind or improving your life even to a slight degree each day. This is just one part of a bigger puzzle for creating my RU-vid channel about holistic health. I literally could have died back when I was 14 years old due to major depression but here I am right now replying to you, a RU-vidr, who's full of fulfillment and dedication to help others to be a better version of themselves. I ain't better than anyone else but my old self. That's all that really makes this RU-vid thing more meaningful and enjoyable. Thanks so much for your support! I am hoping that you can join me with this endless personal development journey! :)
@indigoinarritu6096
@indigoinarritu6096 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Luc! You win a free Spritz if you ever come to Verona, Italy. I try to tell folks this all the time. Now I will just forward your video for them to watch. I like that you use Sigma Art glass. That's my favourite.
@seanp2k617
@seanp2k617 6 месяцев назад
Once I figured out that better grading can do most of what I was noticing with higher-end cameras, I became a lot less interested in camera and lens stuff and a lot more into location and lighting.
@JimOceanStateVideo
@JimOceanStateVideo 6 месяцев назад
Great advice …. For anyone shooting docs, I would also add a Z280 to your list for consideration… I love to run and gun with my FS7 when shooting docs, but when I have to move even faster and lighter, the Z280 serves me well.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Don't know it well, but have heard good things!
@FacesOfLA
@FacesOfLA 6 месяцев назад
I was credited on the show Traffiked and Fred was using a Blackmagic URSA with a Zeiss CP3 lens. Also a A7Siii with a Zeiss CP3 lenses adapted. This is for the new seasons
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 5 месяцев назад
Great video. This works at every level. I used used Panasonic g80's bought for €300 a peice for the first years on my channel, and recently got a mint GH5S for €650. Used is the way to go.
@yvessimard2244
@yvessimard2244 5 месяцев назад
I have been in this business for 35 years - You nailed it. I have owned over 25 cams in my career only a handful of them have been new.
@QuezArt
@QuezArt 6 месяцев назад
My first “cinema camera” was an fs700uk from Sony. And still love it.
@kevinkurka8020
@kevinkurka8020 6 месяцев назад
I have a Sony Fs5 mk ii. I love it works great as is, occasionally I add and record RAW to atomos Ninja + when the project need is it.
@HakimZziwaTips
@HakimZziwaTips 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree with you, this reality came to me early this year and made a big move lol. Great Video.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Awesome! Happy shooting friend!
@Sutterjack
@Sutterjack 6 месяцев назад
I shoot almost daily with the Sony FS7 M1 and it's just such a great camera on so many levels - bullet proof, great feature set, reliable and solid image quality even in 2023. I honestly don't think it's a great ENG or handheld camera, but obviously it serves you well in this capacity. Yes, equipment does matter to a degree - I love my Canon C100 M2 but it's codec and lack of 4k have really limited what I can do with it. Still at the end of the day, content is king!!
@Gleebi
@Gleebi 6 месяцев назад
Good advice.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@softshape
@softshape 6 месяцев назад
The big difference between old hi-end cameras and new is their size and weight. I bought Sony FX3 mainly because in its tiny size it can deliver the same quality that before would be achieved only with bulky pro level gear. If I'd be truck driver :) I'd also looked to second hand pro cameras, but it's not reaaly fun to carry all this stuff by yourself.
@IdeaStudioBKK
@IdeaStudioBKK 6 месяцев назад
Great advice, most of my gear is used, who doesn't love to save money! Also, it seems that every episode its getting colder and colder, stay warm.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
it's -20 Celsius now and dropping every day....pray for me!
@bunkertons
@bunkertons 5 месяцев назад
Your breathing pattern in this video really showcases just how cold it is in the Artic! 🥶
@WhenWillILearn
@WhenWillILearn 6 месяцев назад
I'm currently working on a short film and a documentary. I'm using the FS7 mark 1 which I got used for about £1000, its been great for work and yeah it might be fun to use a Komodo on the short film or an fx9 for the documentary but then there would be less money for building the set for the film and less money for travel and graphics/animation on the doc. The set will make way more difference than a Komodo and the travel and the animation will make far more difference than the FX9.
@esterhammerfic
@esterhammerfic 6 месяцев назад
Exactly, 100%
@elcamino6699
@elcamino6699 6 месяцев назад
I recently bought a Panasonic EVA1 off MPB for around 1800€. Great deal IMO. I also got most of my lenses and accessories there.
@Ed_Scott
@Ed_Scott 6 месяцев назад
I’ve been looking at a lot of Eva 1 content and footage. How are you liking it so far???
@DominikMBlock
@DominikMBlock 6 месяцев назад
My University has several FS5 with Shoulder rigs and F4 18-105mm Lenses. And this setup totally works with the Audio gear and lighting tech they have. They may not have flow tech tripods, but the sachtler they have are solid and they do the work, as most of the gear. Yes, the autofocus from the FS5 sucks and most newer Sonys will get you a better image, but it's totally fine to do aftermovies, interviews, docs etc.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
yep! I don't really use autofocus so not a problem for me, but you're not wrong!
@flcon16
@flcon16 3 месяца назад
I think the last camera I bought new was a Nikon D90 in 2008, my first DSLR. It really just does not make sense to pay new prices for cameras and most lenses.
@mtmccornack
@mtmccornack 6 месяцев назад
I have one trick up my sleeve... Some items (like lenses) are a steal when you purchase refurbished from the manufacturer. They still have a warranty and usually shave off huge discounts that are perfect for self funded upcoming photographers. My last go pro was found in a pawn store 50% off and still had the peels on..... Mmm satisfying mmm....
@dharr069
@dharr069 6 месяцев назад
Almost all of my big ticket items were used, such as my two Canon C300 mark ii and cine lenses. Luc is absolutely correct in stating that one can purchase a higher grade used camera for the same price as a lower grade new camera.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
my man!
@matadormartin
@matadormartin 6 месяцев назад
Great advice. It's a terrible symptom of vacuuming up too much RU-vid content that makes people feel like the gear they have is inadequate or they can't go out and shoot something until they buy [insert gadget here]. I like the fact that you are prioritising the actual content: what is in front of the lens, not what is behind it. I get caught up in gear nonsense too often, but I know some other doc filmmakers who couldn't care less about gear. One I am thinking of has been nominated for a lot of awards this year for his debut feature doc which had a global theatrical release, but I had to explain to him only recently (and long after he finished that film) what an ND filter was. The tech is the last thing on his mind which is very refreshing.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
Well said! I don't think image quality has been a problem for almost 10 years now...so many options! Story is king.
@matadormartin
@matadormartin 6 месяцев назад
@@LucForsyth I should probably watch this video every day to stop me thinking I need something new 😅
@Brian-Hansen
@Brian-Hansen 6 месяцев назад
Sound advice Luc! I have tried telling some young guys to buy used cameras and they look at me like I have 2 heads. They want that unboxing experience!
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
The unboxing just makes me feel like I"m spending money...and I hate all the garbage!
@surfntrucks
@surfntrucks 6 месяцев назад
This is great advice. Learn the craft. Some of these cine camera's have better image quality and bit rates than new mirrorless cameras.
@JackFlower
@JackFlower 6 месяцев назад
What's your take on Grey Market imports?
@danielbeys
@danielbeys 5 месяцев назад
this was super therapeutic😌
@ForGrimTilTV
@ForGrimTilTV 6 месяцев назад
I have an fx9, fx6 and fs7... The fx9 and fx6 was bought new when they came out. And the fs7 was bought used for 1150,- 4 years ago with only 167 hours on it now my fs7 has 1200 hours. It's probably the best investment I've ever made in my ten years as a DP. The 6 and 9 has even more! bonusinfo: I do a lot of multicam filmmaking
@scotey
@scotey 6 месяцев назад
I think with newer cameras you're paying more for convenience features than any sort of major leap in image quality.
@sammorganmoore
@sammorganmoore 6 месяцев назад
But convenience will deliver fluid story. Image quality has been better than you need since the BMC 2.5k. of 2012 or whenever it was.
@scotey
@scotey 6 месяцев назад
@@sammorganmoore Not saying convenience features aren't valuable. Just that they don't directly impact image quality. So unless you're buying a newer camera to leverage its ergonomic advantages, you're unlikely to get a better image on a basic shoot.
@sammorganmoore
@sammorganmoore 6 месяцев назад
@@scotey Indeed. But what im saying is that good ergonomics are what bring you good filming experience and therefore quality content. Ergonomics win. My first nice camera was F3 with external monitor and recorder.. very pretty pictures but so heavy I could not walk 50m with it. Like BM big cameras make pretty too - again horrifically heavy and c300 with a christmas tree of wires up top. Pretty but unusable. Mirrorless with side HDMI - and monitor horrid too. R6, in the hand.. go out create content. It my opionion that many are too focussed on look and not enough on content.
@alvinburrell
@alvinburrell 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree with this - my only new camera was a C70 for the same reasons as you; other than that always used. I actually purchased an FS7 ii with the XDCA and Speedbooster for a bargain a few months ago.
@jakekelly1295
@jakekelly1295 6 месяцев назад
Can someone please enlighten me, what is the benefit and pros to shooting on some of these "made for TV" cameras such as the F5 or Fs7 comparative to a Sony A7iv? The quality and fidelity, not to mention the portability of these hybrid DSLR's systems seem perfect for documentary film-making once paired with the appropriate accessories. I know it is all down to personal taste and circumstance but I'd appreciate some pointers!
@jamesharrison4272
@jamesharrison4272 6 месяцев назад
Good advice. My two newest bodies are 4 years old, purchased used and still going strong. Global waste??? Old working cameras don't go into landfills ~ They get passed around/down so others have an opportunity to learn and enjoy. Lenses are an investment, camera bodies are not.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
I hope you're right! But I suspect a lot of camera gear ends up in the dump before it's ready...
@niclasericsson
@niclasericsson 6 месяцев назад
I love buying used gear. I picked up an old EF mount Sigma 70-200 f2.8 with some fungus inside for USD150. Took it apart, cleaned the lens elements inside, and now it's good to go on my Lumix S5.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
it's the best!
@Ryukushin
@Ryukushin 6 месяцев назад
I use two 5D mark III’s with Magic lantern on them for a 1080p 14bit uncompressed or lossless video that looks as good it may as well be mini c300’s for dirt cheap. You dont need fast cards and the things could even shoot 3.5k very well but not the best in lowlight.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
sounds like a great set up!
@mitchellcookk
@mitchellcookk 6 месяцев назад
Great video! Quick question, how do you secure your camera to your backpack as you have shown @4:56? I’ve been filming more outdoor documentary work lately and am looking for good ways to secure my camera when hiking it up somewhere.
@LucForsyth
@LucForsyth 6 месяцев назад
it's not secured, just resting on the top!
@mitchellcookk
@mitchellcookk 6 месяцев назад
@@LucForsyth oh gotcha thanks!
@gavenevans
@gavenevans 6 месяцев назад
The doc is more than the camera, and YOU have to be more than the camera. Don’t fall for the hype boys 🤘
@JACKnJESUS
@JACKnJESUS 6 месяцев назад
Now I know this is not anywhere near a professional rig...but I could not resist it. Just picked up a Sony VG-10 with 18-200 lens and 18-55mm for 199 bucks. I figure it's a place to start.
@OLNPHOTO
@OLNPHOTO 6 месяцев назад
What gloves are you using?
@RVillevoye
@RVillevoye 6 месяцев назад
Wait what do I need to get it to 4K? Can you elaborate a bit more?
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