As I said earlier, I repair tools 5 days a week, mostly for contractors and manufacturing but some for homeowners. I base my opinions on what I see coming through the shop on a regular basis and what types of repairs those tools typically need. If I see trends in certain brands or specific tools, I take note because I use some of these tools on my bench all day long and I like to keep my customers informed if I see flaws in the tool design or the way the manufacturer is addressing the problem. What I’ve been seeing for the past year is the following; DeWalt battery-powered tools that are still under warranty most consistently need the motor switch assembly replaced. This is true for brushless impacts, drill/drivers hammer drills, and oscillating tools. If the tool is out of warranty, we have no choice but to declare it beyond repair when we find this problem. The motor switch assembly replacement with labor cost more than the replacement cost of the tool. A similar situation is rearing its ugly head with the new Milwaukee battery-powered tools. The problem being the trigger assembly breaking. BTW here’s a couple of tips from someone that deals with this all the time. TIP #1 Put a couple of drops of oil inside your drill chuck keyed or keyless periodically to keep it working smoothly. Tip #2 On all your angle grinders, oscillating tools and other tools that will encounter lots of fine dust on a regular basis. Particularly concrete or drywall dust. Use your compressor to blow the dust out of the tool at the end of the day. The money you will save on repairs and replacements will more than makeup for the little amount of time you spend doing this. This also applies to routers large and small and sanders. Tip #3 On your pneumatic tools if it says oil daily on the tool near the air chuck. That means a few drops of (AIR TOOL OIL) daily and yes there a winter version of this oil. Use the correct stuff and it only takes a little. I cannot tell you how many tools I repair at an average cost of ~$100+ because they tried to use the tool dry. A few drops of oil daily would have saved the loss of use of the tool while it’s down for repairs and the cost of the repair. Tip #4 Lastly on Pneumatics, more air pressure will not make the tool work better. Every tool I test on the bench is at 80 psi. This is optimal operating pressure for all air tools. Increasing air pressure on the tool will only harm internal parts and cause excessive wear to the tool. If the tool is not driving the fastener far enough into the material, air pressure is not the problem. If it won’t work properly at 80psi then it won’t work any better at 120psi. Also, PLEASE drain your air tanks regularly or put a water separator on your compressor. Water is a no, no, in air tools. And do not use WD40 in air tools it is NOT a lubricant and it will damage the rubber parts. Just sharing, I hope it helps
Which 20v DeWalt impact driver do you recommend buying? My DCF885 broke the chuck and looking for the best model, staying in the 20V DeWalt line. Thanks for your response.
@@alanheaven6776 Dewal;t DCF887B This is the tool that I use most frequently on my bench. The three power settings are very useful in breaking loose tough bolts and screws. The low setting is safe for reinstalling said fasteners without stripping or breaking the heads off. However, when I work on plastic tool bodies, I use a smaller Hitachi DB3DL2 Power Cordless Screwdriver with torque setting so that I don’t strip the screws out of the plastic on re-assembly. Since the company that I work for carries all the major brands of power tools, I can purchase any tool I want at dealer cost. So, I opt for the best and most reliable tool available. I just recently purchased Makita 18-Volt LXT Lithium-Ion Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless Impact Driver with a slim profile battery. I got it for the lightweight and am now just getting used to it. But, I've not had it long enough to make any kind of qualified recommendation one way or the other. I hope this is helpful information.
@@alanheaven6776 First off, I don’t wish to appear to be hijacking VCG’s channel. Just sharing helpful into is all. Secondly please be trade or task specific, since listing all the good brands available would take up a lot of band width. I will share what I know to be reliable industrial quality brands and specific tools applications.
@@marybrown7203 I'm a dewalt fanboy, and I still am. While I have seen a lot of peeps questioning their quality of late, I continue to use and abuse my MANY 20 volt cordless dewalt tools almost daily, without a fatality thus far after about 4 years. I've had smoke pouring out of impactor several times, and she still begs for work. I like Milwaukee and Makita, but it's dewalt 4 life for me.
I dropped my old 18V Dewalt impact off the top off a 12 ft ladder 5 years ago and I still use it 5 days a week now. The sparks flew when it hit the ground and the battery came out but it has never failed me even tho I failed it lol
I own a dcf895 for years and got the job done and I just recently bought a Milwaukee 2853 - 20 to replace my legendary DeWalt but third day problems make a video about that... Switching back to DeWalt...🤘
@Millennium Man Did the channel tell you to say that? I'm just messing with you. I like the very cool guys too. I was playing like you were saying what he said made sense that they didn't make sense, just teasing.
professional auto tech here to defend the 887: its great for the automotive industry. it hits hard, doesnt weigh much and you could even swap a 3/8 anvil into it, should you choose. it has never let me down, i have been using it day in/out for the last 2 years.
I’ve never had a dewalt tool fail me. Even after dropping them onto cement from high heights off of ladders. Just pick them up and keep on working and be thankful I bought a dewalt.
I own 2 of these. Puts in thousands and thousands of screws. I dropped 1 in a pond building a dock. Dove down 9 feet and found it. It was under at least 15 minutes. Let it dry for a few days and works perfect, that was roughly a year ago. Still works perfect. I love mine.
Agreed for the most part all these tools will get the job done wether it be Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, and now even Rigid I run makita because thats what I started with years ago and it’s never failed me so why fix something that ain’t broken
That’s funny you say that my dad had bought I Dewalt brand drill one time and knowing we cooks don’t buy 💩 we buy quality tools not cheap stuff. An knowledge is key but that’s why when someone says you know what a craftsman is? Be quick an respond to say it’s a tool.
Holy clickbait! I don’t see anything that highlights a real problem here. Just rambling. I want my 9:38 back. I would just as soon watch a video of grass growing, than a video with a misleading title and minuscule content. There is a huge difference between talking alot....and actually saying something. There is nothing here that highlights any real problem in the tool itself. Anything compact will always sacrifice some performance. This is common sense.
I have the new atomic and it’s amazing. I’m not a contractor or an expert but I’d say I’m pretty pro around the house and other projects and you can’t ask for more. This tool offers exactly what you need given that you’re not a contractor requiring crazy statistics. I’d argue it’s the perfect tool for the house and shed.
That’s funny all of my power tools are dewalt every single one of them still works really good and same with my dads tools except he had em a lot more longer and still working
chris mooney 3 months later on this comment but did you happen to notice all the Milwaukee tools in the background? Yea he isn’t going to say anything good about dewalt that could cost his sponsorship. Lol
Seems like a hit or miss, Ive had all kinds of tools including these impacts and never had an issue with dewalt 🤷🏽♂️... meanwhile Milwaukee has broken down on me more then any other brand... by the way all these brands dewalt , Milwaukee etc.... none are made in the USA...
The impact driver Dcf787 with 2800 rotations per minute and 1500 Ibs ft of torque is supposed to be the budget version of the Dcf887 so it's strange that it's better come on DeWalt 🤔👍☘️
Idk what's up here but I'm a self-employed carpenter and I use the shit out of my Dewalt tools, at home and on the job. I've had not one issue with any of the Dewalt tools I own. Some of the Dewalt tools I use on a regular basis are 10" & 12" miter saws, drill drivers, impact drivers, jigsaw, 2.5 gal. 200 psi compressor, and 4 1/2" angle grinder. I have to say I'm not a fan of the jigsaw, the way the blade seems to travel side to side rather than staying straight up and down, leaving sloppy cuts. I use a cheap Skil jigsaw that cuts llike a dream. Go figure. We did drop an impact driver from 3 stories once and the trigger/switch broke. Repaired it with a replacement switch I got from Dewalt and driver was back in action.
The dewalt impact drill with the 3 speed settings is by far more powerful and useful than my Milwaukee 3 speed Bluetooth impact and my Ridgid brushless impact. I use it 7 days a week drilling thru concrete brick and 16g tubing.
Hello from Van Canada Vince, thank you for the tool review. I am not a toolbrandfanboy or a walkin'talkin'interactivechirpin' billboard for any brand but I want the best tool for the job first and care about price secondary. I guess you could call me a tool slut then. I need to be able too put out the best product I can. My product is electrical work. I take pride in my work. To me, electrical work should look like art when its done properly. A shitty looking or shitty working job means I am walkin' down the road kickin' stones and my sorry ass with no one to blame except for myself. Therefore, I want the best tool for the job which also includes the best tool for me. No sense having a great tool that does not work for me, ie. too heavy, does not fit my hand, feels awkward, too big or too small, etc. Price does have its importance, but it will always be secondary to me being able too put out the best product I can. I sell me. And today, keeping your job is the new raise. If I get shit canned for being slow or doing shitty looking work because of the tools I use then the price of a good tool would have saved me and my family money. Therefore, I do not care what colour that tool is. Give me the best tool and I will decide whether or not I can afford it. That being said, I consider guys like you to be "The Gatekeepers" of the tool world. You guys test and use the gizmos, and then you give me your opinions on the junk in the trunk. So I want to give you a big thanks, a one armed hug, a sub and a like, and an electronic hand shake. Thanks brothers, keep up the good work. Oh yeah...my Default DCF887 has been a great tool for me, I love the ergosomethin'orother people chirp on about, it fits good and feels good in my working hand. It does the job with no issues. However, the microscopic particles of inked propaganda on the side of the tool states this tool puts out 3800 IPM not the 3600 IPM you have stated. Maybe we Canadian boys are a little bit more hardier than you fellas to the South of us and can handle a few more impacts per minute than you? Chuckling...gonna tune into a hockey game tonight to find out...Cheers guys!
I’m a union cement Mason and Milwaukee is garbage , all I see is Hilti, makita , and dewalt, no problems with 10-12 hr days 5-6 days a week, just saying ....
I have a DeWalt brushless XR impact, the 887 model. Its put under heavy use in small engine repair and it has never had a problem. In addition, I use the 787 ones at school screwing boards together, and they never fail either. Both the 787 and the 887 are beasts!
No mames funciona de maravilla solo que te vendiste a una sola marca todo depende de el trabajo que le des y el uso pero es muy buen equipo no seas mamon
I’ve been trying to tell everyone. The 885 is the best impact they have ever made, mine is an absolute tank and still runs after plenty of wear and tear.
Vince just said in the video 787 was the best brushless impact has to offer and everybody knows the 885 is a tough brushed. But 887 and 888 is their top offerings
I’m an electrician who puts this exact impact and corresponding drill to work every day. Speaking from personal experience, I haven’t had any issues with them and have been very impressed. I think they are fantastic and would highly recommend them to anyone.
I don't know what you are talking about dude, but my XR impact from DeWalt works totally fine. All tools have problems, even Milwaukee tools believe it or not. Why no bad review on Milwaukee?
@@jasonvoorhees8545 see my reply to the first comment. minus the dumbass bit. i was talking about the tone of his voice. you watch enough of those conspiracy videos on here and you start to notice they all sound stoned.
I just bought a DeWalt atomic 1/4 drive 20v it does what I need. Was $150 then was lowered to $119 so not bad. If I need more power I'll buy another DeWalt I like DeWalt myself when I lay it down some where the yellow on it helps me find it.
Update September 26, 2020 I have now retired from my position at the shop due to some serious health issues and the potential exposure to COVID-19. And although I am not at the shop any longer, I still possess the background and stay in touch with my former coworkers. So, if I can offer useful information or answer questions, I will always do my best to provide accurate and current information on this subject. Again, this is not an attempt to hijack Vince’s channel and if he feels that I am crossing the line he is welcome to let me know, and I will comply with his wishes.
Update. Well first, this retirement thing is driving me crazy so in my Christmas greetings to my former employer I mentioned this, and the immediate response was. They desperately want me back even if only a few days a month. So, I am carefully considering it after I get the vaccine and so long as I can keep my health issue under control. At least on a part-time basis.
@@VCGConstruction Another update. March 29,2021 Sadly even though I got the two vaccinations and can at least venture out of the house without being so concerned that if I catch the virus that I will die. My other health issues have canceled my plans to return to the job that I truly enjoy. I do however keep in close contact with my old teammates and they keep me up to speed on what's happening in the industry. So, I will answer questions when I can and share what I can, so long as I am able. Be safe and well everybody.
ive had the 3-speed DCF887B impact for a year and half so far. that being my first driver ever and so far i cannot complain about it. other than cosmetics, it still works like new, very light weight compared to milwaukee’s.
I own a small fence and deck company. My DeWalt impacts are used more than any of my other tools. I started with the standard brushed impacts. They did very well, but when put through continued use in hot weather, they started cooking brushes. I finally upgraded to the xr brushless 3 speed impacts, and haven’t had 1 issue in 6 months. One of my employees purchased the Atomic impact, and immediately regretted it. It is super underpowered. He returned it after just a couple days. I’ve learned that brushed dewalt tools are great for moderate use and not a bad avenue for getting started in the industry. I still have a lot of my original brushed tools from dewalt, but every they start burning brushes, or losing performance, I upgrade to XR, and couldn’t be happier.
I'll stick with my Panasonic cordless tools. By far the best out there. I'm a 26 year electrician. Use my tools daily. Never met a situation Panasonic couldn't handle. The best part is how long charges last. No joke, I don't even carry a charger with me everyday. I just charge my batteries like once a week, actually probably less than that. Another great thing about Panasonic cordless tools, when everyone has their charger plugged into the spider box, my batteries never get stolen. Only by my brother who owns Panasonic too. I'm serious, they're the best going. Check em out. That said, I do own some Milwaukee tools. Only because Panasonic doesn't offer the variety of the other brands
I love my dewalt! The only issues I've had would be my fault, they can only handle about 15 drops off your belt from the rafters before the case breaks. But it's only $20 for a new shell. And thre best part? My company buys all my tools so free is always the best.
I have owned an 887 Impact Driver for nearly two years. use it everyday. And never a problem. it’s a great tool and really powerful. yes the host guy doing the talking could be said to be “Over Acting”. Just a little bit.
Love dewalt but when it comes to the impact drivers, look no further than then their “base” model 885 brushed motor... im already paying more money to be cordless, dont need to throw more money for “brushless”. Stick to the 885 doesnt have all the bells and whistles but its tougher and meaner than my mother in laws heart.
I've had the DeWalt 20v Atomic impact driver for several years now, no complaints here, I got it "used" from Amazon as a tool only purchase for 80 bucks, I also have the cheap DeWalt 20v 6.5" circular saw, all my other Dewalt tools are 18v adapted to 20v batteries, I just a casual DIYer but I've never had a DeWalt tool fail, I'm too deeply invested in DeWalt to change brands now LOL
Wow! What is dewalt doing?! Trying to pull a fast one on the consumer. That Atomic is an atomic piece of 💩. Would love to see that against M12 FUEL Gen2. I wonder what the Atomic Drill looks like compared to the XR. This is some shady stuff if you ask me. It’s larger and heavier than current 887 impact. Im speechless....
They’re trying to compete with Milwaukee on their small impacts. That’s the reason I switched to Milwaukee, their impacts are smaller but deliver the same work load.
The big problem with brushless tools is their very complex and delicate control electronics. They cannot be repaired and the entire circuit must be replaced. Brushed motor tools are extremely robust and their 4-pole versions are very powerful, which is why they still exist. many dewalt xrp series tools 15 or 20 years old working today.
I repair tools like this all day long, five days a week. I absolutely agree with your assessment of this tool. Additionally, DeWalt like several other manufactures have realized that there are two distinct markets out there. One is the pro and the other is the homeowner or weekender. Not that those are bad in any way. It's just poor marketing on the part of the manufacturer not to make it clear that in fact, there are two different lines of their product that often look almost the same. Once you open these lower-end products up to service or repair them you then realize how clearly different, they are. I won’t say where I work because we are a factory authorized repair center for most of these brands. For me to speak ill of anyone's brand would not be wise. I will say this, however, I personally own some of nearly all the 18 different brands that we service, and I have developed personal preferences for one or the other based serviceability and or general quality of construction of the product. My current go-to brand for most cordless tools is Makita. For woodworking equipment, Delta without question. Pneumatics: for Roofers Hitachi NV45 is the industry Gold standard. A new company with an old Bostitch engineer in the background is Everwin. They make a full line of the coil and stick nailers, and staplers as well as some specialty tools. They currently do not make a roofer. These are high-quality tools priced very competitively. High Pressure: Max pretty much has the market cornered on this line. Max until recently had the market cornered on the Re-Bar tying tools until this year and now Makita has a competitively priced model with a guaranteed 72-hour turnaround on repairs. And BN products USA has a new tool that will use any brand of wire and the motor is fully sealed from dust and dirt and it’s only $1600 and change, as opposed to the Same tool from Max at $2349.00 and the Max tool will only use Max wire. Keep up the good work, man. I like your informative videos
Dude, You have to be my most annoying sub. I hate watching your videos but there is so much good content so I keep coming back :). Keep it up... I guess... Or hire a spokesperson and train them up?
Well looks like the 885, 886 and 787 which I believe is a relabled 886 is continuing to be Dewalts best impacts. Glad I have 2 of those 3 and will pass on the rest. Thanks for the info Vince! 😊
Funny you are the only one I know who has problems with DeWalt impact's and we abuse the crap out of them including 2 dcf 887 and older dcf 825 I think u are sponsored by Milwaukee or have some type of agreement with them just my opinion also Milwaukee makes great tool not saying they don't.
Beings that you think I’m the only one who’s having problems with these impacts, I think you’re being paid to leave these comments! DeWalt probably gives you free 887 impacts for every comment you leave!!
@@VCGConstruction do quick search on RU-vid if dcf 887 was as bad as you claim then there should be tons of videos showing them smoking and tearing up oddly I only found one other RU-vid channel with a 887 having problems your pretty much the only one complaining so either you have really bad luck or you have an alternative reason just saying. Also I wish DeWalt would give me 887 for free I would take it sadly they don't but good try on your response still think u are sponsored by Milwaukee or have alternative reason.
Tomorrow at work I'll send you a video of it installing garage doors, 3 inch lags into studs and PT and different grades of metal. "Milwaukee 18v fuel impact "
I forgot my 09 makita on the roof in October. Once spring came(april),and I moved the RV. I heard something fall Went outside and there was the impact I'd been looking for. Changed the head and used it for a day before the battery died. 6 months outside in snow,ice,water, -40 degrees. I said WTF.
Do you have anything constructive to add to your trollish keyboard badass opinions? What do you do? You stuck around for the video though Didn’t you? Exactly! You’re just a punk. Please go buy your impact from harbor freight and be proud of yourself for it! Bc AT the end of the day, nobody gives AF what your stupid and childish brain thinks! Have some respect while someone is teaching you about something you are obviously ignorantly educated on! Clearly he repeats himself for the DA’s like you! Get off the YT comment sections, you’ve embarrassed yourself & family enough! You’re a negative, weak minded, troll Loser!!
Seen a few videos from this garbage channel. They are wisely playing the RU-vid algorithm. You watched, you interacted. If you’re tired of this garbage content, do as I will do going forward: watch no more of their videos and when the show in your feed, tell RU-vid that you’re not interested in the channel by clicking the “...” next to the video.
Love dewalt but i think il pass on the 809. I am interested in the circular saw and the reciprocating saw. They should have made a brushless 12v impact with a 3 amp 12v battery. Very upset.
Really strange on dewalts part. I don’t see any reason for the atomic version at all. I’m team red. Have both gen 3 18volt impact and hammer drill and gen 2 12 volt, crazy amounts of power and small packages.
I'm a DeWalt guy and I can tell you when I first looked at the atomic I laughed my ass off it's a joke for the price even with a battery and charger I'm a thousand percent better off going to Milwaukee and buying their 12 volt impact
Brian Vanderwoude EXACTLY!!! That new 12v milwauke impact driver is AMAZING. You can basically fit it in your pocket with the stick style battery and it STILL outperforms 18v drills twice its size. In every single head to head 12v review that ive seen nothing even came close.
I watched 90 seconds and went to another video. You're NOT entertaining and you waste everyone's time with your unnecessary comments. I don't even know what the flaw was you never got to the point.
I use my 20V Brushless XR DCF887 all day everyday with a 5.ah battery. I have no complaints nor has the 887 ever given me any problems or complaints. I'm only driving 3" deck screws x 100s ALL DAY !!To each there own I guess !
I, likewise like my DCF887. No complaints. I run it with a 5ah batteries if I'm doing heavy stuff, or keep a 2ah battery on it for lighter work. I also have the M12 Fuel 1/4" impact, which works great when I don't need the power. I'm not sure why the Atomic line even exists. It's no comparison to the M12 Fuel stuff.
I literally learned today how to disassemble my dewalt impact drivers and drills and they were clogged up with so much dirt and dust... I cleaned them out and oiled them up and greased the gear boxes and they work phenomenal compared to before. These tools will last thousands amd thousands of hours if atleast maintained and cleaned decently and oiled
I have 7= 887 impact drivers now of which 2 are shorting out currently and I have already replaced 7 other 887 impact drivers. I'm so invested in dewalt it's impossible to just switch brands. I literally have a minimum of 6 of each and every 20v max tools plus 17 chargers and 35 batteries. the old brushed impact drivers were slightly slower but at least reliable. I made a stupid mistake and gave those away thinking the 887 was going to be a good tool; boy was I ever wrong.
I know I’m biased, Milwaukee has proven reliability in my realm for a good many years, and I love nothing more than to poke fun at the die hard dewalt guys I work with when their stuff doesn’t stack up to mine... Having said that, though, we all rely on our tools. They are our money makers. I appreciate the real testing you’s guys display and everyone should know good facts before making these purchases... Money ain’t growing on trees anywhere around me. And even if there should be a bad tool Milwaukee happens to produce, I’d wanna know! You’s guys really are the best! I could care less about a failed dewalt tool, but since I’ve been following you’s guys I have been a blessing in my coworkers lives informing them not only about dewalt issues but the good things about some of them and offerings from other manufacturers. All in all, and my apologies for such a long winded comment, I am quite thankful to have come across your channel, and more so grateful that you guys really care about us to do it! Stay true VCG! - Mr. Magic.
Did the Dewalt Atomic design crew get demoted to the 12 volt line of compact Dewalt tools? If so, they've redeemed themselves. The Xtreme 12v are powerful compact brushless affordable tools. They pretty much nailed it. Bet Dewalt is kicking themselves for not coming out with the 12v brushless 1st, and renaming the 12V line, get this, Atomic. Someone probably got canned.... Not as bad a mistake as Dicks or Gillette. But still, not good. Now.... if they can apply their lessons learned to the 20V line, I.E. the 887, come out with some new pro 20v brushless tools to kick Milwaukee off their high horse..... Nawwwww! B&D is too big, lumbersome, too many brands, lines to juggle. And if a 2008 housing crash happens again, well, at least cars will still need fixing, and mechanics will keep on buying Milwaukee tools.
I was looking at the "Atomic Drill" i contemplated on buying it as a combo kit. After reading the specs online I put it back on the shelf and walked away.
They pushed the 887 too far. It self destructs. Now they built the atomic with the "same" internals, a different shape, but decreased the power to a safer level...
@@adolfocortez8536 ive owned 3 and they are bullet proof..even dropped one in the lake 3 time and it held up fine until i tried to run it semi submerged (i do dock work)
My 885 and 886 have been driving hundreds of big long construction SPAX screws into treated wood for a few years and they run like new still. Great tools.
