DON'T BUY THIS CPU! 👉 4 Mistakes to AVOID as Creators! [More Expensive & WORSE]

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I see people buying these CPUs but they're making huge mistakes, please don't YOU make these!
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@theTechNotice 5 месяцев назад

Ok, I see a lot of comments saying if you're a gamer + Creator (meaning editing gameplay) there's nothing wrong with the X3D CPU. Absolutely, and also nothing wrong with any CPU if that's the one you have. The point is if you're a gamer first and that's the priority, then the X3D CPUs are the best ones for you. And I'd argue that the gameplay you edit get's accelerated on the GPU regardless (h.264/265). But if you're a creator first and think getting the X3D CPU is the best option for you, then that's what I was trying to explain in this video. The X3D CPU will perform slower than the non 3D cache CPU in pretty much every creator benchmark and I believe you would be better off getting a CPU that's better for your creator Workflow that can also game, perhaps not as good as the X3D CPU,. Here's a question then, wouldn't the non 3D CPU be better gaming+creator CPU if it's actually better for Content Creation but worse for gaming? I guess whatever you prioritise more! As a creator I'd lean towards the non 3D CPU. you?

@Purified1k 5 месяцев назад

Nope, if you do extensive gaming in your life. I'd always suggest x3d, its just had that good of an impact on my gaming experience. Honestly, the performance difference is negligible for most creators, especially gaming creators when it comes to those type of work loads. Unless, if its that real small amount of people who really need that extra push in encoding or work loads. Which tends to be very specific. So at the end of the day, I'm personally only choosing the x3d.

@luvoverthewall 5 месяцев назад

@@Purified1klike he said "whatever you prioritize more"

@bill_g. 5 месяцев назад

@@Purified1k unless you have a 4090 and play on 1080p exclusively, the X3D has 0 (zero) impact on your gaming experience

@terramidia3d 5 месяцев назад

As a Creator and gamer, I share the same opinion, so I choose a non 3D CPU. There’s no game i can’t play at max settings anyway, so, no reason to pay more for less “work” power.

@VIDSInsight 5 месяцев назад

The guy is right if you do encodes with videos with those exotic specs. And yes, if you're craaazy about video encoding quality - like if you want to store and handle such video files for a long time. In the sense that the AMD chip does not have the hardware decoder for that exotic video format, so whatever processing and viewing is done, the AMD will theoretically have a harder time handling it. I haven't tested that myself, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison due to that tailored hardware decoder in the igpu from Intel. AMD's video decoding skills still have to play catch-up with Intel's iGPU and Nvidia's decoder - so that doesn't help either. I think the video published here is done with research and it's a piece of advice which you are free to take or ignore.

@NajiSibin 5 месяцев назад

The X3D CPUs actually makes sense if you do both gaming and content creation. obviously the price gap is depends on your budget.. maybe you can save some extra on the CPU cooler since x3Ds are only 120W

@NajiSibin 5 месяцев назад

eg.. there are many gaming youtubers and their best choice is definitely x3D

@danielvipin7163 5 месяцев назад

dud, no ones gonna cheap out on the cooler when balling top money for x3d chips. to me only the 7800x3d makes sense. the 7900x3d and 7950x3d all have scheduling issues and glitches. 7800x3d runs under 85watt, great for small sff systems with decent perf in work and excellent perf in gaming.

@Eren-da-Jaeger 5 месяцев назад

@@NajiSibin Gaming youtubers are the fruck ups that people who do use PC for other stuffs too, avoid. If you just wanna play games then get 7800x3d. But then why not buy playstation itself at that point?

@bruceanderson8588 5 месяцев назад

the dual core 7900s x3d run like someone built a V8 engine and then decided to turbocharge one side only does not work

@NajiSibin 5 месяцев назад

@@danielvipin7163 if you have to choose 7600x and 150$ 360mm AIO or 7800X3D with 20$ aircooler. what would you choose. for me its x3D and i would expect anyone else do the same who prefer functionality over aesthetics. and im pretty sure x3d gives you more gaming performance while being same as 7600x on content creation

@TheGameBench 5 месяцев назад

It surprises me how many huge channels that do productivity tests do not mention the media engine on the 11th Gen Intel CPU's and up. All they really test is a synthetic benchmark, playback of a single piece of footage or they just test the encode times. Makes me glad I found this channel.

@flexzii6772 5 месяцев назад

I mean they're the reason that most people thinki/said 12th gen intel cpu is overheat

@RaviPires 5 месяцев назад

Since the very second gen, actually

@RaviPires 5 месяцев назад

In that specific point its quite QUITE common, honestly. 13/14gen are amazing contenders for manual optimization of how much more heat/power than needed they put out@@flexzii6772

@TheGameBench 5 месяцев назад

@@RaviPires I'm not simply talking about the iGPU. Obviously, Intel CPUs have had an iGPU for a long time. I'm talking about the new media engine which does onboard decoding of x264 and x265, that was implemented on the 11th Gen CPUs.

@RaviPires 5 месяцев назад

I know, what i am saying is that in comparisson with the other cpunterparts, since second gen the quicksync has this ability, there were created a HUGE plethora of software exatcly to make use of this piece of hardware before adobe put it to good use, movavi being one of them@@TheGameBench

@Daniel-hj5jt 5 месяцев назад

Your own benchmarks are showing a 2-5% performance difference between X3D and non x3D chips and what YOU are failing to take into account is the absolutely massive difference in power consumption. While the 7950x is rated at 170w, it's not uncommon to see it topping 250w or more, while the x3D with it's 2-5% performance deficit does not exceed 150w. There are plenty of meaningful criticisms to be had against the multi CCX X3D chips. The memory training issues, memory stability issues, core scheduling issues....but you've zeroed in on the least significant while simultaneously ignoring the biggest motivating factor..... Power consumption is enough of a reason to NEVER buy an intel CPU....yet you're trying to take shots at a gaming channel for not testing a feature that almost no one in their audience cares about. Sure, it's real neat that intel can scrub h.265 10 bit video....but, who do you think that's for? Do you really think that people watching talking head video's on youtube care about color grading? Market saturation of displays that can actually showcase the difference is growing....but not exactly significant, it's certainly nothing the vast majority of gamers care about, and those that do are spending multiple thousands on displays, and GPU's....for gaming. Not to watch some random youtuber try to generate clout by missing the point.

@Matti6950 5 месяцев назад

Fully agree, -80% (often more like in gaming) power consumption but only 4-10% performance loss (and a win in performance in most games), This is the best 'be good at everything' cpu (gaming, efficiency and workloads).

@axel-11 2 месяца назад

"Power consumption is enough of a reason to NEVER buy an intel CPU" - that is not exactly correct. I'm considering to get Intel CPU because in idle it consumes 5 times less than AMDs desktop CPUs, same goes for small loads when it's mostly idling. My loads when I'm not rendering or gaming are low, mostly idling - right now I'm typing this text and CPU load is less than 5%. And also you can undervolt Intel 14600K. Actually I'd say undervolting means giving a proper voltage, because I think they are overvolted from factory for marketing reasons, and that is why most people think Intel CPUs are inefficient heaters. Also you can slightly limit it's power limits to get much greater score per watt. Most of benchmarks tests CPUs that are pushed to the limit when by giving more wattage they try to gain such a minor perf improvements (35% higher power consumption, 4% higher score, yay) - it almost doesn't make sense, while I more interested in pushing it to optimal efficiency. Or you can even get something that seems like a more efficient CPU like 14600 non-K version, or even 14600T with twice lower TDP but with almost same performance (seems like 6% difference).

@Daniel-hj5jt 2 месяца назад

@@axel-11 My 7800x3d, undervolted tops out at 40w while gaming, cinebench will top fluctuate between 65-70w, as i'm typing this my power consumption is at 15w. The 14600k, pulls 180w during cinebench....even if you tuned the power down by 35%....that would still put it at 115w, 45-50w more than the x3d. Efficiency isn't just about idle draw, it doesn't matter if you're pulling 5-10w less when you aren't doing anything, if you're pulling 50-100w more anytime you are. Yes board manufactures have gotten into the habit of pumping up the voltage so as to hit the max boost...but in intel's case, the high end parts actually require that power draw, and even when things can be tuned to slightly less egregious consumption, Intel has consistently had a much, much, much higher overall power consumption than AMD.

@alexanders.4591 2 месяца назад

@@axel-11 If power is extremely expensive in someone’s area, then AMD is the clear choice. I love my 12600K, but goddamn I have seen that beast draw 215W at full load.

@alexanders.4591 2 месяца назад

@@Daniel-hj5jt The 7800X3D was and still is my dream CPU(at least until Ryzen 9000). Unfortunately, given that I am not the most well off, I had to settle for an i5-12600K For $145 on a Black Friday sale.

@1337Ox 5 месяцев назад

If you are a gamer and content creator, and have the budget for it, there is nothing wrong going with 7950X3D

@thehimself4056 5 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with drinking and driving either. It’s the other stuff around it that makes it difficult. Why tie your hands behind your back willingly?

@watsup39 5 месяцев назад

@@thehimself4056 That drinking and driving analogy was horrible lol. The 7950x3d takes like 10 minutes to figure out using google. It is not difficult at all.

@sl1ckk1ll3r 5 месяцев назад

@@thehimself4056this is a take and a half 💀

@sir1junior 5 месяцев назад

I also have a 7950X3D as a creator and gamer and I'm not disappointed in the least bit.

@SM-sj4dq 5 месяцев назад

Glad to hear this

@mistydavis4746 5 месяцев назад

If you have the time, could you possibly do a video on power surge/outage protection for pc, router etc? Thank you! With winter here, I'm experiencing this often. I know surge protectors are helpful, but that they also wear out. Anyhow, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!

@bradleyjohnson1177 Месяц назад

Please make a video comparing these chips in real world example. Thanks for your videos. Learning a lot

@casthor64 5 месяцев назад

for gaming and content creation I would take an Intel cpu but if I just want to game, I'll take de 7800x3d for sure, if I need some production then I'll probably go for a 13th gen i7 or something around that, the i9 seems so overkill if u don't need that much

@sennasennina4891 5 месяцев назад

Great info! thanks!

@user-me4fs9mq5k 5 месяцев назад

great information to have I'm new to pc building

@garyb8857 5 месяцев назад

Thank you as always for you great insights. 😊 I recently added an intel ARC 310 and disabled the intel iGPU and I was amazed by the qsync performance. Faster than the iGPU. This makes options like the threadripper more appealing since you can now get both by having an Nvidia AND I cheap Intel ARC. Just saying.

@pascalgrenier1209 5 месяцев назад

Merci pour tous vos tuto et je vous souhaite une bonne année.🏆

@harleentaylor2526 5 месяцев назад

I was looking at 13th gen Intel processors when I upgraded recently. Due to a special being run, I picked up a 14700k for only about $5 USD more than the 13700k, so it was one of those rare cases where the 14th gen was actually better value than the 13th gen (plus the 4 extra E cores and all). Its a shame that Intel didn't include AV1 encoding on their iGPUs for the 14th gen, as that would have really added some value to the 14th gen for a lot of users beyond just performance.

@anonix4078 5 месяцев назад

10 minute to new year, and I'm watching CPU video LOL. Happy new year!

@Reinx1 5 месяцев назад

For me as a creator ( streamer really) I got the raven 7950x3d purely because there was a crazy sale at my my local Canadian retailer where I got the CPU + b650 board+ 32gb of ddr5 6000 for $900. Originally my budget was to go for the 7900x non 3d but the bundle ended up costing less. Though my situation was definitely far from the norm with that deal

@cybernit3 5 месяцев назад

The Canadian Retailer was Canada Computers? Ya, I got an Armory 7800X3D with 7800xt... black Friday sale deal too... PC Gamer listed 7800X3D as best CPU of the Year.....seems good....just he is saying it isn't worth the money if you are a content creator.. but for gaming the extra cache is used..etc

@Reinx1 5 месяцев назад

@@cybernit3 yup it was canada computers lol. but yeah when i saw that deal i had to jump on it. was a much better cpu than i originally planned as i was originally going for the 12 core but ended up with the 16 core. funny part too is it runs really really nicely on air, using a thermalright phantom spirit cooler i got for $40 on it and temps are quite decent

@elvinsontaveras7125 4 месяца назад

Friend, a question if I get a GPU like Intel Arc A770 would it have these benefits of Intel® Quick Sync for decoding those heavy codes or does it only come with the Intel LGA 1700 CPU?

@MehmetCanKaya35 5 месяцев назад

So what about Ryzen 7 7700X ? There is too much price gap with i7-13700k or 14700K is it really worth to have a quicksync or AMD igpu will do the job? I have a RTX 3080.

@MOPO3JCg 5 месяцев назад

The acceleration of game code is not directly related to the X3D cache, but to many years of bias in the code, the lack of SIMD optimization on AMD FPU and the use of slow ALUs in the game code. CPUs with X3D have a lower maximum frequency, but by optimizing the structure/order of current data, they will be able to outperform their faster counterparts without a 3D cache ;).

@twitchmoments7049 5 месяцев назад

I recently watched a video about contact frames. I'm not as interested in temperature as I am in CPU bending. I'm not going to overclock the CPU, if I install it with a standard mount, is there any chance that it will bend so much that it will stop working or will work worse? Have 14700k and Liquid freezer 2 360

@Ralipsi 5 месяцев назад

You are spot on! About the X3D, it is better for gamers. But for anything else such as creation, its not the best choice.

@TheLordNugget 5 месяцев назад

The issue with your argument on that last one is its focus. If you are willing to lose a little performance for content creation so that you can get more performance while gaming, then the cpu's make sense. If what matters to you is better content creation performance, then the cpu's do not make sense. Your conclusion clearly shows which side you are focused on. It's not a bad thing, but that is a big asterisk that needs to be placed on that one. It may or may not make sense depending on which is more important to you, gaming or content creation.

@l3lue7hunder12 5 месяцев назад

Very nice video, but you got one thing wrong: The issue with the X3D isn't the X3D, but severe issues with the still rather immature Zen 4. The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the most energy efficient CPU out there, because it thermo throttles down to 50W TDP just to survive, and the weirdness doesn't end there. Essentially, the only desktop Zen 4 above 65W TDP that makes sense, is the R7 7800X3D, and even this CPUs only is a beast in some 3D games but essentially nothing else. The best thing you can do with desktop Zen 4 is to skip it in favor of Zen 5 - the Ryzen 8000 series, for instance, apparently is very promising again.

@Oceanborn712 5 месяцев назад

I thought the QuickSync thing is a known standard. Hell I know about it and I'm just a filthy little gamer who's been sticking to AMD for other reasons for many years now. The most thing I do is record my gameplay and toss it on youtube unedited, at most cut it in a few parts using Shotcut.

@IamYon 5 месяцев назад

Just recently bought the Ryzen 7 5700g, got my first AMD A8 way back in 2014 and will stick with AMD cause I never really had major problems (aside from not booting up - dedicated GPU no display error)… gaming, editing and recording - they all work fine the way I experience it.

@TheAnon03 5 месяцев назад

And here's me gaming and streaming from my 7-8 yeah old never changed the thermal paste i7 4790K. Would like a 7800X3D though.

@SMRakib-ql5tx 5 месяцев назад

Hey bro can u tell me 4070 or 7800xt which is good for 2k max settings gaming, video editing, streaming??

@smoetje 5 месяцев назад

What if you put an additional Intel Arc GPU in the machine, combined with one of these CPU's? Shoudln't it support quicync, 10-bit 422 h265, etc.?

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 месяцев назад

It can do the entire job instead of igpu. They are quite pathetic tbh, and most importantly - generate heat on already hot processor.

@itsTyrion 5 месяцев назад

3:00 doesn't really apply when not working that isn't H.265 4:2:2 video - H.265 4:2:0/4:4:4 or H.264 4:2:0/4:2:2/4:2:0 all work I wonder why nvidia left out 4:2:2 ????

@eturnltube 4 месяца назад

What are your thoughts on the 12700K in the current market? I am considering a build with this 'dated' CPU

@Julian-wx9cn Месяц назад

Is there any drawback buying the 14700KF e.g. when only realtime low latency audio playback is my main interest (I don't do video editing)? Because the KF has the best single thread performance.

@fridaycaliforniaa236 5 месяцев назад

AMD's X3D CPUs are useful when you find a program (game or other) that knows how to manage the additional L3 cache memory. In the cases where you use games that don't know what to do with such amounts of extra cache, the X3D has no advantage at all. It's often even worse, because the clock speeds are actually quite lower on those CPUs. This is why I have chosen to buy a 7900X instead.

@derptweaker945 5 месяцев назад

Me to, il get it on the end of this month

@PizzlesTechTime 4 месяца назад

I really need some advice I can only get 192 GB of RAM running at 5000 megahertz. My I-9 is having USB speed issues when transferring files. I cut it down to two sticks of 48 GB and it runs XMP tweaked fine. I don't know what to do because I do use the ram capacity. Is there any ram kit stable at DDR5 at 192 GB?

@CryptoTambayan Месяц назад

watching your videos before building my own pc, from ph

@aernancoc 5 месяцев назад

It is not bad to have the F in intel, because without the iGPU the CPU runs a bit cooler and usually it is a bit cheaper.

@bebopkim 5 месяцев назад

Argh! I bought 13400F 4 months ago! Your video is very helpful!

@Johan-rm6ec 5 месяцев назад

Good video da!!!

@ScoopDogg 5 месяцев назад

Me still hitting 60fps native on my Intel I 7700k 4.2ghz x270 gaming board 32gb ram x 2 ddr4 n gtx 1080ti oh and windows 10. Never will need to upgrade anything until gfx cards can out do this board setup

@Loczyyy 5 месяцев назад

Should I buy Ryzen 7 5800x if I have Ryzen 5 5600 with 1660ti. I mostly play Fortnite that is veery CPU based game so idk if its worth it? Or should i just save until i can get ryzen 7 5800x3d or just buy a new gpu.

@blahorgaslisk7763 4 месяца назад

Depending on what GPU you've got it may be a wise move to replace it. X3D CPU's improve games performance, but are still limited to what the GPU is capable off. If, for instance, you were to replace the R5 5600 with a R7 5800X3D you should probably not see much improvement in Fortnight. Sure it may start faster and might have less noticeable delays, but the total frames per second won't be fantastic. That 1660 Ti will be holding you back. For games the GPU is very much decisive for the capability. You will never see better performance than what the GPU is capable of. Me personally have an older GPU, a RTX2070 Super, and an older processor, a Intel Core i7-6700. At the time a friend upgraded to a RTX2070 on his machine powered by a Intel i9-9900. His processor was almost twice the speed of mine, but his GPU was slightly slower as it was standard speed while mine had a slight factory overclock. Now in the game we were playing at the time, which I think was The Division 2, my machine actually benched one frame faster than my friends. The reported GPU utilization was above 100%, which we blamed on some kind of bug in the games benchmark function. The thing is that on both machines the GPU was said to max out, but on his machine the game started faster, loaded games faster, loaded new areas faster and had less dropouts of frames. On his machine it was super smooth, while on mine there were incidents where framerates fell drastically for a part of a second when new data was loaded. Now that's a long write for little data, but what I want to say is that the top games FPS performance is decided by the GPU and the CPU. For me the RTX2070 Super is about what my machine can drive. I could install a 4090 and games wouldn't run much faster. But for my friend it made sense to update the 2070 to a 30 range GPU a year or two down. Now if you want the max performance from games a X3D CPU isn't a bad choice, but without the GPU to match you won't get full performance from it.

@tomquimby8669 5 месяцев назад

I upgraded from an 3700 to a 14600k. I am wondering about thread provisioning as this p/e core creates a decision tree which AMD only P core sidesteps.

@ahmadzahid266 5 месяцев назад

Who to make igpu useful even when I am using graphics card? In video encoding and editing it’s Always using graphics card encoding but never touch an igpu

@Guttalaser 5 месяцев назад

Yep Man...this marketing habit of creating confusion and fog between products in the same brand is really annoying and basically it tends to make money on tons of wrong purchases from customers. But IMHO it is counterproductive because at the end it slows down the right purchases... so... WHY?!? That said... it is correct for music creation - where the lowest latency and the maximum single core power are mandatory - to buy the most powerful latest CPU even for that 5~7% of power? And in that case... is correct to buy the KS version?

@KayoMonei 2 месяца назад

I just need a combo for content creation and run my studio recording software I’m mostly a console gamer might indulge a little bit in pc games

@karlos1060 5 месяцев назад

As a non content creator and just a gamer i am very happy with my Intel I7-14700KF. It has no igpu and i don't use quick sinck for anything. This leaves me with higher clockspeeds overal due to less heat and power from the igpu. My i7-14700kf does stock only with xmp on 6000 mhz cl40 timing so pretty slow timing it gives me consitant 2193/2194 cinebench r23 single score and between 35500 and 35700 multiscore. So i am happy to have chosen the F variant. As 99% of people that do not need it should do. It's a bit cheaper and you will have a little more headroom with the extreme powerusage of these 14th chips.

@peterhermina656 4 месяца назад

try troubleshooting your system without an iGPU? With the KF variant; the system wouldn't even post to the BIOS. Finally, you can always turn off the iGPU in the BIOS.

@karlos1060 4 месяца назад

@@peterhermina656 Or just slot in another gpu..it's not that hard is it?

@thcyprus 5 месяцев назад

Wouldn't the 3D versions of AMD chips perform better for GPU (not CPU) 3d rendering with software like Lumion, Enscape, Twinmotion, Unreal Engine etc, since those software work very similarly to game engines?

@johnbernhardtsen3008 5 месяцев назад

the 3d got more cache, but lower hz to rut with!meaning the 2-400mhz slower matters in rendering, not in gaming!got the 5800x and its faster in rendering in premiere pro compared to the 3d version although my cpu got 1/3 the cache!havent you watched the new 7 gen 3d versions videos keeps crashing, so you have to change the ram speed very often to get the pc just to boot! jaytwocents shows it in one of his recent videos!

@karlos1060 5 месяцев назад

@@johnbernhardtsen3008 I had 2 of them 7800X3D with that crashing issue and returned it as it drove me nuts. Now i am very happy with my I7-14700KF. Also the theoretical 7800X3D fps with EXPO on are not reached i think in real life as it is very unstable. I can't believe they release such broken product. Even worse is that people do not believe it, thinking it's a lie because all those channels can't be wrong. But they are all paid to review the chips and are not honest.

@johnbernhardtsen3008 5 месяцев назад

going to upgrade my nephews gaming pc next year, he is using the old trusty 3600xt cpu and a b550 mobo!im sure to donate him my not so used Arc A750 gpu since I still use amd products, it got the nice XE cores to work well with the 12600kf me and my brother is going to pay for!@@karlos1060

@Spleiter 5 месяцев назад

@@karlos1060 All my friends have the 7800x3d and no one had any issues with it. Only because you have a bad expirience with it doesnt mean others will have the same expirience.

@karlos1060 5 месяцев назад

@@Spleiter That could be, but 2 cpu's wich are not good brandnew is simply unexeptable. No matter if it can work propperly with others. That's like 2 doa's in a row. And leaves me not to buy this CPU as i can forsee issue's in the future with it as it is already very finiki.

@craiver00 5 месяцев назад

Went with 13500 because you recommended it. The price to performance is really worth it. Might not be the best processor but it works for almost everything I throw at it. Temperature never gets above around 65 degrees, the power draw isn't absurdly high for an intel, and I can multitask no problem.

@cael9844 5 месяцев назад

Have u done some intensive editing like 4k or prores?

@craiver00 5 месяцев назад

@@cael9844 I tried video editing at 4k with Davinci Resolve. It lags at the section where I applied heavy effects but can be fixed by downscaling the timeline quality. It might be my GPU (4070) holding it back though. It's not a CPU for intensive works when you can't even overclock it.

@GruelingFive8 4 месяца назад

Hey, can I ask how much RAM you have on that system in case that's maybe the issue? I build and sell gaming PCs as a hobby but my brother in law is considering having me build him a pc that should handle 4k video editing as well so I've been looking into how to get him that smooth experience

@craiver00 4 месяца назад

@@GruelingFive8 I have 32GB 3600MHz. If I remember correctly TechNotice recommended 64GB for high resolution smooth editing.

@joshuabonorino9561 4 месяца назад

For what I hear x3d is a new thing and still in early stages so maybe down the line with new iterations and software development it gets to the poiint that it can do both I think.

@ThunderMS34 5 месяцев назад

Having a i7-12700k saved me one day when I had to revert the Nvidia GPU Drivers nothing I did would not work so I used the intergrated graphics to hop onto google and download a previous version of the Nvidia graphics drivers, ddu'ed the current and installed the older one and bam I was back up and running so theres another pro of having a non F model of Intel CPU

@dragani2330 4 месяца назад

Integrated graphics are great to fix driver/hardware problems.

@ericthedesigner 5 месяцев назад

I do large format graphic design and I'm still on a 3950x clocking at 4.83 peak on the the first ccd and 4.5 on the second.... I have access to below freezing liquid cooling. The hot spot on my chip is 2C

@sir1junior 5 месяцев назад

The 7950X3D is amazing and it sips power at full load.

@Matti6950 5 месяцев назад

Reason why i bought it:) It's fast on workloads, gaming AND is efficient. Plus platform longevity.

@sir1junior 5 месяцев назад

@@Matti6950 Exactly, I hope AMD does support the platform through 2025 like they said

@Matti6950 5 месяцев назад

And i forgot temperature. 7950x3d for me is very good temperature with Noctua ND-U12A. 60°C degree max on cores (some cooler) and hotspot 76° (average 68°C), that 95° possibility of 7950x is not my cup of tea, though the 7950x3d is 89° cap. But yeah this cpu managed to tackles almost any problem, at the moment it's the only true all-round cpu.

@bal_723 3 месяца назад

about first one, if you have an intel arc gpu, you can freely buy an cpu with F at the end as arc gpus have all same features of intel's igpus

@theTechNotice 3 месяца назад

Except you don't get hyper encode...

@Triro 5 месяцев назад

X3D may give slightly less in editing, but in gaming it outweighs that downside. Though I personally still don't trust X3D chipset, as the entire exploding thing could come back in just a single bios update. Not risking my expensive system for it. I might consider it if this doesn't happen again for awhile.

@mrbabyhugh Месяц назад

8:34 they have to cut corner somewhere to add some crap for marketing reason. So the more they say it is offering, BEST BELIEVE THEY ARE CUTTING SOMETHING FROM SOMEWHERE to offer it.

@Nedski42YT 5 месяцев назад

Five years ago I made the mistake of buying an i5-9600F. I had a spare GPU card so I thought I was so smart to buy a CPU without an iGPU. I saved almost $30! Turns out that it wasn't so smart. Two years ago I built a new 13th generation PC and used some of the the old parts to make a PC that would only run web and Office applications. I didn't want to use my GPU card for this. So I ended up getting a used i3 CPU with an iGPU. The i5-9600F CPU now sits in a drawer with other unneeded parts. Another factor in favor of getting a CPU with an iGPU is even if you don't do any video editing the iGPU used in conjunction with a video compression utility such a HandBrake makes it worth the price. I have a Plex server now and I usually recompress the "extras" that come with many DVD and Blu-Ray movies. Compressing the files with the iGPU option enabled is 5 -10 times FASTER than compressing using only the CPU!

@AlyxSharkBite-2000 5 месяцев назад

The only one I would say for 14th gen I would pick over 13th is the i7s they got 4 more ecores which can help out abit

@glendekoker3682 5 месяцев назад

I'm AMD and video was bad from Gopro i found codect that runs it fine?

@prabhakardhar1379 5 месяцев назад

from your review have purchased the i5 13500 with a d5 b760 with 32gb of d5 ram 6 months ago and very happy with it's cpu performance the uhd 770 of my i5 13500 excellent for 3d and 2d cad works, photo and video editing, encoding, 8k@60fps video streaming, aaa games upto 2021 at 720p low with 22-30+ fps.. capable to produce 165hz refresh rate of my new acer ed320 QR s3 curved 1080p 32 inch through hdmi 2.0 cable, and consumes only 10w max and idle at 1-2w which is great but intel need to work seriously on their igpu performance of their desktop skus, it really runs latest titles worse even in 720p low, some of them aren't even launching 😑, while still everything works fine on vega 8 of r3 3200g of one of my friends and that vega 8 outperforms uhd 770 with 200%+ performance in many aaa titles

@howietorock 5 месяцев назад

xeons are better as they dont have on graphic which noone uses on board graphics any ways

@varunvunnikrishnan4054 5 месяцев назад

Have you done any video about creator motherboard in every price points?

@theTechNotice 5 месяцев назад

Good idea, not specifically in one video, but I've shared the info across dozens of videos :)

@MarvelousMarvinB 5 месяцев назад

Dude, you are one of my favorite RU-vid creators. Well done sir! I hope this next year is even better for you. Keep up the good work.

@choppergirl 5 месяцев назад

Irrelevant, because I never scrub. I started on an FX-8350, and scrubbing was out of the question.. in fact, sometimes just playing the video without rendering it out if you had too many resolution changes and transitions in a section... was out of the question. So I just adapted and built my editing style without scrubbing. I don't think I would know how to scrub if you asked me to. Instead, I set a small region I want to examine, put my play cursor inside that loop, and press play and watch, the loop play over and over, while I sample through different transition options to find the one I like best. The 7950x does that just fine. Watching the igpu usage and even the nvidia gpu usage in Windows Taskbar, what is surprising is how little mp4 encoded and decode hardware logic is used when rendering out a video... barely a blip.... but instead, the massive 3D parrallel processors... where your GPU really has the muscle... is used instead. That's a good thing actually. You only have 1,2,3 max encoders and decoders, and even with just 1 it's barely utilized... therefore not a bottleneck... but you have thousands of tiny 3D gpu math processors that are loaded up with work.

@sorin5713 5 месяцев назад

happy New Year

@BurnLikeAFlame 5 месяцев назад

Just starting the video and my first thought: Are we supposed to be hearing you, or the f***ing unnecessary music? Which is the priority here? Is what you're saying so unimportant that you try to hide it behind music nobody clicked to hear? Your 2024 resolution: Forget the music, forget the noise, remember why people are watching and focus on that instead.

@antasari_ahmad5325 5 месяцев назад

Big THX

@hugo49i 5 месяцев назад

So should I get the 7959x3D for video editing+streaming+gaming?

@Matti6950 5 месяцев назад

Yes imo. Best high core cpu for mixed gaming/workload edits, with added bonus of being by far the most efficient cpu among 16 core + cpu's.

@hugo49i 5 месяцев назад

@@Matti6950 What's the best (250-350€) motherboard for 9 7950x3D? (2x32GB ddr5 6000 mhz+WD 4TB)

@Matti6950 5 месяцев назад

@@hugo49i Gigabyte X670 Gaming X or Aorus Elite are quite good, ASRock X670E PG Lightning, and MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI. Don't like the Asus at this price point (personally) they always lack something specific. The aorus Elite is my fave (very good passive cooling for this price class. I have the Gigabyte X670E Aurus master (450-500€), and i like it for being very complete also having m.2 pci 5.0 support and some of the best passive cooling system i've seen wich you remove with just a few screws, then reinstall.

@MacgyverFreitas 5 месяцев назад

Quick Sync is great, but NVidia can't decode h265?? I really like to see a side by side comparison

@betterh 5 месяцев назад

13900ks has better binned memory controller than 14900k, which can lead to better ram oc, since the difference between 13900ks and 14900k is very minimal (single thread), higher oc'd ram can make games have more fps with 13900ks than 14900k, but its not for everybody to spend time and max oc ram/cpu/thermals. for creators 13600k/14600k/14700k is a value sweet spot. intels 14th gen cpu power limits can be lowered to optimize power consumption with small performance loss in multithreaded tasks.

@tankotee9755 19 дней назад

Thank you. I may for the K and 13th generation for my next build. The bulk of my activities where there is high load on CPU is converting my project to RU-vid videos and chess engine calculations.I'm open to suggestions if anyone is happy to suggest something else. Actually I did some calculations, I'm getting more CPU marks per dollar with 14th gen.

@densetsu4286 Месяц назад

Long term intel perso. Who just upgraded to the 7950x3d. I did some video encoding back in the day. I'm gonna push back just a bit with your understanding of the 7950x3d. The 7950x3d is a multipurpose cpu. It's a gaming and productivity cpu. It's for people who game and create. And looking at various b3nchmarks for h264/h265 and AV1 and at higher presets the 7950x3d is ever so slightly slower than the 14900k. However it also kicks the 14900k's ass in gaming. All ryzen 7000 cpus come with igpus. They also have quickness video which is similar tech to quicksync. Is it as good? Don't know. Need to see. But now your confusion on the 7950x vs the 7950x3d. Yes the 7950x3d does a bit worse in productivity to the 7950x. However the 7950x3d demolishes the 7950x in gaming. So this was just poor understanding on your part.

@Nikioko 5 месяцев назад

On-chip GPUs will become important when you dedicated graphic card is not recognized for some reason.

@cemr5917 5 месяцев назад

Now it value is 401 dollars and plus 125 dollars you can buy an Arctic liquid 360mm, is the perfect bundle for have the two options, game and create

@mrbabyhugh Месяц назад

5:15 I have never ever looked at a KS, i dont even like the idea of the K but I'll take it if the non letter added ones not available, and THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT!

@DJaquithFL 5 месяцев назад

Huh!? *_"What Gamer"_* will ever tell you not to buy a CPU without an iGPU? Gamers highest component failures are their GPUs and motherboards, if nothing else, an iGPU can be used to determine if your GPU is toast or possibly help to fix a problem in Windows. Gamers know that Intel's iGPU is used for Intel Quick Sync encoding acceleration. I think you have a bizarre understanding of PC Gamers, they're actually some of the most knowledgeable PC people out there, especially those that build their own PCs.

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 месяцев назад

Wait, you dont have a couple of old GPU`s for that occasion? Weird.

@DJaquithFL 5 месяцев назад

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 .. That's typically NOT the issue of having another GPU hanging around. I have a Closet Filled. Instead it's getting a new GPU to INITIALIZE because of a Bug in Windows, the GPU Driver or the GPU's own FIRMWARE. So you'd have to install MULTIPLE GPUs and 🙏 PRAY that the Fix isn't going to the Backup GPU and or the GPU Driver FIX isn't going to the WRONG GPU and if it's a FIRMWARE issue that against the Secondary GPU doesn't interfere. ANS to your next question .. No, the iGPU doesn't have the interfere issues, firmware conflicts or try to OVERWRITE your problematic GPU. Hope it clears it up!

@AnthonyMalesys 5 месяцев назад

Great. I bought an i7 13700F for my photoshop and sketchup renders because people told me "it's ok you don't need your cpu to render anyway"

@twal3 5 месяцев назад

Not sure if you've touched on this, but if you were buying used/refurbished pc's with i5, i7 or i9...what is the earliest generation of CPU you would bother with (as of Jan 2024). This is obviously for people on a limited budget.

@baoquoc3710 5 месяцев назад

10th gen, if I think carefully, or you can even go with 8th gen minimum since everything is still decent

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 месяцев назад

8th, 9th, 10`s...there is decent options, but you can go with even ancient haswell-xeon if budget is REALLY tight (there is deals like 50 bucks for mobo, processor and some RAM).

@mrbabyhugh Месяц назад

6:28 my opinion, the best CPU to start with is the i7 13700 or maybe add a K. On a budget, then the i7 12700, extreme budget then i5 12400. Want to upgrade after 2-3 years, then i9 13900. I would totally skip 14th Gen and see what 15th has to offer because the price to performance from 13th to 14th Gen doesn't make sense to me. I do not get the point of creators and AMD, unless they mainly work with Blender or they video edit in that free software that I have never used or even seen.

@AzoxSudo 5 месяцев назад

so question what if i want pc that fit both can i make setup like this cpu : ryzen 7800x3d gpu1: nvidia card(depend on budget) gpu2 : intel arc (to make up for the quick sync) would intel arc would be enough to make up for it? feedback for the editor: pls type cpu names ik sure some ppl can't keep up with random numbers(cpu names) fast

@Yusta19 5 месяцев назад

get 3060 or 4070 for gpu, i personally wouldnt recommend intel arc

@AzoxSudo 5 месяцев назад

basically my idea is to get arc gpu beside nvidia gpu to make up for intel q-sync@@Yusta19

@Yusta19 5 месяцев назад

@@AzoxSudo trust me it's not worth, better switch to ur cpu to i7-14700k

@Yusta19 5 месяцев назад

Or i5-14600K

@HomegrownAssets 5 месяцев назад

I agree the amd 7950x is not a content creator cpu. Only 32 mb of l3 cache was enough to turn me away but not to intel. I'd rather pay the extra 1k for the 7960x for proper cache.

@mrbabyhugh Месяц назад

5:47 i am about to build a PC after 20+ years and I HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT A 14th Gen CPU to consider!

@mrbabyhugh Месяц назад

2:15 it is BASIC LOGIC really. That chip is made to work with graphics, so I would think it would work better overall with a dedicated added to it. Some will think it's the other way around, NOPE!

@frankwong9486 5 месяцев назад

When codec is too complex and lack of computing power , i edit with proxy 😅

@oktc68 5 месяцев назад

After years of buying the "k' sku and never once using the on board graphics I bought a kf last time around, obviously it doesn't make a jot of difference to me except maybe temps (dunno if I got lucky but my kf runs cooler than both my buddies k skus, meaning I can get a stable 5.8GHZ all P cores while they cannot (at least not with a 280mm AIO) Buy what meets your performance targets and suits your usage requirements. Obviously I'm a gamer, integrated graphics are a complete waste of silicon. Don't buy a 14600k cos the 5% performance bump is negated by overclocking and undervolting which should give better than voltage of the box performance.

@ArrOShooter 5 месяцев назад

I am so puzzled intel 13600k vs amd 7600 , i do only fotography need a new pc because i still have a amd fx8350 that becomes unbearable. I already bought a nvidia 3050 last year and a nvmi drive through pci . Watch a lot of video's so is intel quicksync helping with that? Do i go for ddr4 or ddr5 i am planning 64 gb of memory. I use not only photoshop, lightroom but als dxo pure raw or topaz photo ai.

@denisverkhovsky8602 5 месяцев назад

Bro you need a MacBook Pro M3Max 😄

@qisrabutik7554 5 месяцев назад

Go for DDR5, technology evolves very fast. DDR5 is very fast compared to DDR4. At least can last for many years. I'm still using i7-2600k with DDR3 lol. To use DDR5, need a new motherboard which supports it, Z790. This year 2024 might come new latest Z890 board to cater Intel 15th gen cpu. If can wait for it, will be a good choice. If not, can buy the Z790 board and pair it with 12th, 13th or 14th cpu.

@kuroyami6289 5 месяцев назад

I say go for the Intel. If you don't mind troubleshooting your PC now and then go AMD. But Intel has better stability from what I've heard and can handle high frequency memory. Don't know about AMD for now. And go for DDR5 I'd say since you are already going for an expensive kit might as well get the better one. Make sure your motherboard supports DDR5 memory. But, maybe other people will give you better advice so lets wait for them as well

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 месяцев назад

@@kuroyami6289 DDR5 isnt really that good. Its real returns are much lower then speed gain, they are somewhat comparable, but you can get ddr4 for cheaper.

@kuroyami6289 5 месяцев назад

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 I know there isn't a huge performance difference, but if the OP is going for an upgrade, why not go with the DDR5, no? If he ever wants to upgrade in the future, they can save some money on memories at least.

@Geminithought 5 месяцев назад

What should I get to pair with my Msi suprim liquid x 4090?

@afknrogue9463 5 месяцев назад

Ryzen 3 1300

@glancevincent 5 месяцев назад

It's worth getting a 14th gen because of better resell value in future.

@keithwalton 5 месяцев назад

Not everyone is a "Creator" and even those that are it's not there exclusive thing and a chip that can do something else much better for a little more (X3D) is worth it. Or a CPU that's cheaper for a feature you don't need (F) then save the money. Also with regards to 14th Gen, they're making APO exclusive to 14th gen and it makes a big big difference to performance where it's supported so far and that support is only going to increase in the future. When you have asymmetric core design you have to put the right thread on the right core at the right time and the windows scheduler is crap for that. Work needs to be done to make the best use of E and 3D cores. As for the KS well, people would of brought that before 14th gen came out, that and everyone saying don't bother with 14th gen buy 13th instead ... and yes there is almost no price difference between the two in the uk.

@RealTechGeek 5 месяцев назад

You really should be talking about older hardware too x99 x79.

@freedomutilities9240 5 месяцев назад

I almost buy i7 14700kf, glad to see this video!

@fmasotti Месяц назад

Hi, are u gonna paid by intel mentioning only intel cpu and only 1 amd tha t is bad as u said?

@TrusteftTech 7 дней назад

I use computers since the early 80s. It shouldn't surprise me,but it does when fanboys use fanboyism to counter facts. At the very least they should try to accept that them owning or liking a product or company, doesn't stop because someone has mentioned facts. Good video.

@blutdogify 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for bringing basic commonsense back.

@asahisaiba1072 5 месяцев назад

from 3600 to 5800x3d and all the stuttering is gone,ill skip am5 and upgrade when am6 is available

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 месяцев назад

It will be a looong time + recent am5 situation will most likely repeat again.

@Nikioko 5 месяцев назад

7800X3D is the best processor for gaming, as AMD generally has a better value for gaming PCs. Plus, the AM5 platform will be supported for some more time. But if you want your computer for applications like content creation, you better go with Intel.

@dianaalyssa8726 5 месяцев назад

Good topic

@FoRk-One 5 месяцев назад

Ok, now I'm sure this Channel is just marketing. Stating obvious things and saying others did not cover them - who?! This is almost Userbenchmark level here since you are claiming to be a tech channel ...and you just found out and have to make this headline!? Also, as a professional i can tell from experience that some of your tests and metrics are flawed. You should clearly state this is a sponsored channel from the perspective of a non tech savy creator.

@ThePCExpertAmateur 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for this valuable info! I try to steer creators to your channel. It's quite valuable when you share stuff like this. Personally, I never recommend the -F CPUs because GCs can and DO die. Now I also know that the iGPU helps the GC. To be fair, just like I don't turn to those two channels to learn about content creation, I don't turn to this channel for gamer stuff. Different functions have different needs.

@kevindhaussy3042 5 месяцев назад

I've bought my 14600kf at 299 euros... The 13600kf was at 330 euros so... Best deal for 14th (refresh) gen.

@theromanian8194 5 месяцев назад

Hands down the best channel for creators. Also I have a question. Right now I have a i3 12100f & 4070 on a h610. I want to upgrade to an i5 13500 for better blender performance. Should I also change the motherboard? Will the i5 fry the h610?

@lycanthoss 5 месяцев назад

For best blender performance you want an RTX GPU, not a better CPU. Quickly looking up some numbers it looks like the RTX 4060 is roughly 8 times faster than the 14900K. AFAIK The only drawback to the GPU is that you can have more RAM for cheap for the CPU, so the GPU would struggle/nor work in big scenes where memory usage exceeds the VRAM. As for the CPU. You shouldn't need to upgrade the mobo. Just make sure you are using bios version that supports 13th gen.

@geekdk 5 месяцев назад

Defends on your motherboard. H610 boards tend to cheap out on VRMs. So, check your model and see what it has got. 13500 is going to pull around 150w at maximum, so keep that in mind.

@theromanian8194 5 месяцев назад

@@lycanthoss I already have a 4070 but it takes 30 seconds until the render starts and then like 20 to render.

@theTechNotice 5 месяцев назад

I'd say most likely your motherboard is fine. :)@@theromanian8194

@theromanian8194 5 месяцев назад

@@theTechNotice Thanks and happy new year!

@Meshesbax 5 месяцев назад

Thanks. REALLY

@Renull55 5 месяцев назад

More videos on the studio book 16 (I just got one)

@Pau7L. 5 месяцев назад

What about ryzen 8700g its comes with 780 radeon

@KetogenicGuitars 4 месяца назад

How about true audio creator? There should be dedicated videos for audio creators and their needs. I guess this is the wrong channel to ask for that. But meanwhile waiting for such channel: Only special programming effort for audio comes from IK Multimedia and they use cuda(some say) with their ToneX. Other than that generally audio plugins are very CPU dependent and for some reason published DAWBench results give good reason to use lower wattage x3ds. Lower wattage means less noise and longevity for mobo and that is why I made my build around 7900X3D. For me 20% less performance has no meaning but 100W really do. As aircooled it really is dead quiet 98% of time - if that matters. If it is about such small performance difference, the situation is already asking some real multi cpu workstation monster. Main reason to turn on the AMD side in the beginning was the longevity goal which AM5's LGA 1718 socket might serve. I really had loved to get 14700K but the socket support and need for water cooling were the issue. How about free DaVinci Resolve? Is it also using quicksync?