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Don't clean your cookware! I know that many people stress about their new and shiny cookware getting blackened when cooking over a fire. Well, I'm here to tell you that you should leave it blackened and there is some data to back up this concept from the great Mors Kochanski.
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@lapicker1010
@lapicker1010 4 года назад
Half the fuel? Nope.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Just quoting Mors Kochanski....
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Here is a more scientific answer from a Physics standpoint: Q. Which will normally warm faster-a black pot of cold water or a silvered pot of warm water? A. A black pot of cold water. Blackened things are a better absorber and emitter of infrared than silvered things.
@lapicker1010
@lapicker1010 4 года назад
Well, thanks for schooling me on that. But, if you’re REALLY interested in a “more scientific” explanation, the property you describe applies primarily to the absorbing of radiant energy from LIGHT. However, when an object such as a metal pot is in direct contact with fire (as opposed to sunlight) the mechanism of heat transfer is quite different. So, “from a physics standpoint” [sic]: Q. If you park a white car and a black car outside on a sunny day, which will warm faster? A. The black car because it will absorb more of the radiant energy (LIGHT) coming from the sun. - - - BUT - - - Q. If you have a white car and a black car and set them both on fire, which will warm faster? A. There won’t be a significant difference.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Right, because you're talking about conduction rather than radiation. So a blackened pot won't absorb any more thermal radiation sitting on a fire than a silvered one, from the bottom. However, hanging over a fire or next to a fire or even on the sides, a blackened pot will absorb more thermal radiation than a silvered pot. So if you're using it over a stove, like an alcohol stove, there won't be any real difference in the thermal transfer. However, the advantage to a blackened pot is that it will melt snow more efficiently in the sunlight. And after you boil water in a blackened pot, the water will also cool down quicker than a silver pot because it emits infrared more efficiently. Also there are significant differences between stainless steel, cast iron and aluminum etc. because of the difference in the conductivity of the metals themselves. In an ideal world, a pot made of actual silver would be the best conductor but it has more to do with the efficiency of the metal itself as a conductor of heat rather than the color of the pot. So, a blackened silver pot would be the best of both worlds IMHO. Thank you so much for your dialogue on this!
@chrish3720
@chrish3720 2 года назад
@@lapicker1010 Well you tried. And a good try at that, unfortunately you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
@arctodussimus6198
@arctodussimus6198 4 года назад
Mors Kochanski had probably forgotten more about wilderness survival than most of us will ever know. Because to him, wilderness survival was just life. What a loss when he went under. 😞
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
So true... He will be greatly missed.
@9q7a5z
@9q7a5z 3 года назад
When wood fueled cookstoves were in use, there was a thing called stove black. It was used to rub onto the outside of your cooking pots. Now I understand why that was important.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you so much for watching!
@utoob312
@utoob312 5 месяцев назад
Stove black is a black coating that is applied to a cooking stove , not the pot! It was designed to stop the stove rusting, and keep it smart. Designed for the type of cast iron stove that had a solid fuel fire one side, an oven beside it, and hot or warming plates and the chimney on top. Modern stove versions like Aga, use heat proof enamel and don't need blacking.
@timbaka1480
@timbaka1480 3 года назад
Not necessarily "half the fuel", but certainly less fuel and less time. Fact is, from an engineering standpoint, you and Mors are correct, and it works both ways - black absorbs heat and it also radiates heat. Back to the cook kit, buff the outside with steel wool and give it a couple coats of hi-temp black spray paint to "get a head start on the blacking process". Second tip, for times when you are forced to cook over "dirty" fires (like pine), rub the outside of the cookpot with dish soap (I carry some Camp Suds in a small Nalgene bottle (2 oz/4 oz?), do you cooking, then scrub down the outside with water, or leaves or sand, and the soap and pine tar will come loose easily.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Год назад
Tom Baka, you sound like a fellow trained in the physical sciences. Would you guess if the black color were caused by chemical oxidation the tendency to absorb heat would be better as if the surface were painted? IOW, a copper bottomed pan made black by chemically oxidization would absorb heat as well as if it were painted?
@rickw4160
@rickw4160 Год назад
Its not vastly different, and realistically doesn't matter. Black paint can't take the heat of a direct fire contact for more than a few moments, and will just burn and flake off.. where it will most likely be replaced by the soot and tar. Black paint helps the most when your using a lower temperature flame like a gas stove. a copper bottomed pan made black by chemical oxidation would absorb heat better than the same pan that is not black, provided the coating itself was not insulative. (you get this talk alot when discussing nano coatings and DLC's. ). Generally speaking chemical oxidation and nano coatings are signfiicantly thinner than paint.
@user-pi6ws8ws5m
@user-pi6ws8ws5m 5 месяцев назад
​@@rickw4160you guys are really into it .
@RS4393
@RS4393 2 года назад
That move you made at 1:41.....If I tried to split anything with ANY of my knives that way it would've split my thumb to the bone. Great video just the same.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
That degree of control comes from many years of hand carving wood in multiple positions and holds. I definitely wouldn't suggest it for most people.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 месяца назад
Agree, I wouldn't use this as an example, reminds me of Polish arm wrestling. Hopefully nobody tries this.
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 4 года назад
RIP Mors Kochanski! A true legend in the bushcraft family.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Yes. He is greatly missed!
@markperron851
@markperron851 4 месяца назад
I was taught many years ago from a ranger to take Murphys Oil Soap with me. Before you put your stuff on the flame you wipe a bit of the Oil Soap on the areas on the pot that normally collect the char. Once you are done cooking you can wash the pot with just water as the cooked on Soap is already incorporated in the process. It has never failed me and I'm 65.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
Absolutely.
@SteveAubrey1762
@SteveAubrey1762 5 месяцев назад
I've got stained stainless steel cups and pots. I'll wipe ashes and soot off soap not to get it in my rucksack but I don't scrub them to a shine. Never thought about it making it more efficient...pretty cool! Thanks for teaching me something new!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Thanks so very much for watching! I'm glad that you liked it.
@davidsawmandave8731
@davidsawmandave8731 3 года назад
I live in rural VA , and have 1200 acres of woods and streams behind my house, it's amazing how much resources u can find in such environments, I love to look for springs , stealth campsites , metal detecting old home places (there are a few) just go for walks looking for wild eddibles, mushrooms, and this place u shown in this video reminds me of my backyard, love it , great video , I go to the mountains and hike alot on known trails , but have just as much fun in my backyard as well , great 👍tip on these pots , I always try to shine them up , gonna try it your way for a bit
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the video!
@uprebel5150
@uprebel5150 2 года назад
Silky saw tip was cool too.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thanks!
@russrath3
@russrath3 3 года назад
Glad to hear you quoting Mors Kohanski. Used to watch his videos before he passed away.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Indeed, he was a great man. The Bushcraft world is not the same without him. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@capefearcapt4679
@capefearcapt4679 3 года назад
Except he was wrong on this one.
@glynnoster1131
@glynnoster1131 4 года назад
Where were you when I was a boy scout? The men would come around and inspect our cookware after a week of summer camp to make sure it shined!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Interesting. Not sure why, but maybe they just wanted to make sure the scouts were learning to clean up. Because a blackened pot is definitely more efficient.
@ObamaoZedong
@ObamaoZedong 4 года назад
that's to 'build character'
@soap5393
@soap5393 9 месяцев назад
Excellent point about leaving the outside black. Regarding the keeping the inside clean, you're right about that too. I got dysentery eating off a fork I hadn't cleaned well enough.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@daveedwards6567
@daveedwards6567 2 года назад
You are so correct on the darkened pots and don't forget Anny or most pots for backpacking are a dark gray better heart absorbing thank you for the video James
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@SurvivorMetalMan
@SurvivorMetalMan 4 года назад
That’s good to know, and makes perfect sense. Mine are all black on the outside lol, either from laziness or it’s just burnt on so much I can’t scrub it off lol. Excellent video brother!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you, my friend! Hope you have a great day and thank you for watching!
@MasterK9Trainer
@MasterK9Trainer 4 года назад
I never really thought about whether to use shiny or black cookware since your going to cook over a fire or propane or some source of heat. Good information to have. Again, if the sooty black bothers people, they can always spray high temperature paint on the outside and make them whatever color they want or a nice attractive black so they cook more efficiently. Now that I watched your video, I am going to choose black or at least darker color cookware.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you. Glad you found it helpful!
@ulftrauthig8394
@ulftrauthig8394 Год назад
Learned something new again. My pots are not polished to a high gloss either. I think the resulting patina gives them something like character. I really like your videos, especially the 1790's series and the Hobo series. Look forward to more videos. Greetings from Germany
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Thanks so much!
@Bushmanschool
@Bushmanschool 4 года назад
I am never clean outside my pots, i love it to protect with this patina. But I didn't even know that reason for boiling fast.Thanks for sharing this great info and video. Thumb up
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you so much, my friend!
@rottenkid389
@rottenkid389 4 года назад
Congratulations on 6000 subscribers. Great info. Have a great week
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you so much my friend!
@BBQDad463
@BBQDad463 2 года назад
Excellent video. Thanks!😎
@ronaldrose7593
@ronaldrose7593 4 года назад
Hello my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. You continue to be a wealth of information. Always the best of good things for you and your family. 🤗
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you, Ronald. Much appreciated!
@johnburgin7478
@johnburgin7478 3 года назад
Sounds like you raised the ire of a cooking Karen 😏 😂 Great video
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you, lol! There are a lot of cooking Karen's out there!
@sherrybillings6311
@sherrybillings6311 5 месяцев назад
Great lesson. Thanks for sharing 🙏
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@jessiepayne737
@jessiepayne737 6 месяцев назад
Makes sense enjoying the tips and tricks.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 6 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@thaddeusmikolajczyk9055
@thaddeusmikolajczyk9055 4 года назад
I agree 100 percent with you about the outside of my outdoor cookware. I just wipe off any soot and clean the inside very good. If it was good for Mors it's good for me.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Absolutely!
@Squirrel200
@Squirrel200 2 года назад
The cup is beautiful and well loved/used as it should be! 🤗🤗 PS Look how well cast iron cooks and it's black! Yes a old person talking. keep up the good work!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@TheWesttexasbr549
@TheWesttexasbr549 3 года назад
excellent info, makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@OverlandOne
@OverlandOne 5 месяцев назад
Excellent tip, thank you.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@abdenourabdenour1172
@abdenourabdenour1172 2 года назад
Thank you for the great lesson brother in survival
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@mortykatz2236
@mortykatz2236 2 года назад
Always very interesting and informative
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you!
@janeevaboone9278
@janeevaboone9278 5 месяцев назад
Hey! It's the same way with solar cookers! Beautiful scenery. Thanks for the informative video.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
You're very welcome!
@atlenwoods7566
@atlenwoods7566 2 года назад
Thank you James for your video it was great but I bet it was cold out there god bless you and your family
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching and God bless you too!
@markcooper6736
@markcooper6736 4 месяца назад
Totally agree. My wife always freaked out because I've done the same thing 😅. She has this shiny metal obsession. Been doing it for a long time .and it only took about 20 years for her to finally give up trying to scrub my outdoor cookware
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
It's interesting. Some folks really don't get it very well. I had one commenter that went on at length of how this could not possibly work.
@gregscountrycabinoutdoors7359
@gregscountrycabinoutdoors7359 2 года назад
I have painted my Cook pots with high temperature paint. For this very reason. Great job. 👍👍
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you so much for watching. The black color really does make a difference.
@mathewsmith4476
@mathewsmith4476 2 года назад
Wise man, see I learned something today!👌👍
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching.
@OKBushcraft
@OKBushcraft 4 года назад
I adhere to Mors' teaching. Good vid. Oh, I guess my cast iron cookware in the kitchen would be considered "boggen?"
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Probably, lol!
@southernlonghorn4507
@southernlonghorn4507 4 года назад
OKBushcraft: AMEN, I have a kitchen full of “Boggenware” cast iron pots, pans, etc and they are way better than any of the fancy stuff we own.
@timbaka1480
@timbaka1480 3 года назад
As one boggen to another, "here's boggen at you!"
@vetinger
@vetinger 5 месяцев назад
you explained very well the true about " black" cookware. This is very helpful, especially, for young people and kids. Thanks for that!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@tedsamuels3203
@tedsamuels3203 2 года назад
I never knew that....Thanks James
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@jalm6868
@jalm6868 3 года назад
I love these videos!!!!!!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you!
@Malok03
@Malok03 4 года назад
I only remove the excess of soot, that's all... Thanks James.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
And that's all that's needed!
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 2 года назад
And the inside remnants lol...
@RobertFireLionBlueHawkWinkler
@RobertFireLionBlueHawkWinkler 4 года назад
I spray paint all of my outdoor cookware with high temp black bbq spray paint. It's only about $3.00 per can. I put 2 or 3 coats on the outside of each pot and skillet. When I first started bushcrafting, I wanted my cookware to be shiny but I soon learned that black absorbs heat better. Even at home, my pots and pans are black on the outside.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
That's a good idea. Thank you for sharing it! Maybe some folks will prefer that to the soot.
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
My wife (may she rest in peace) would never eat anything i cooked in my cast iron skillet because it had been used over a camp fire & bilt up black on de outside,, now de inside was perfectly clean,, she said she ain't eating nothing cooked in a dirty skillet,,,,, well it was more 4 me....
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
@@tomcatt1824 It's always good to have enough to eat! And, as long as the inside is clean, that's good enough for me!
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 2 года назад
My OH is funny about firefood too lol, I'll whip up a bacon butty over the firekeg whilst sat in the garden and she won't eat one, kinda mars the evening for me if you go in the kitchen to make food to go back out and sit near the fire and eat it...
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Год назад
@@OldNavajoTricks “OH”? and “butty of bacon”? Please define/explain. Oh. and I agree about cooking on the stove top to go outside and eat by the fire pit. Meaning gets lost in transportation.
@TIMETOROCK23
@TIMETOROCK23 3 года назад
Thank you, James, for the great advice. Besides, you are out in nature, who gives a rats a** what your cooking equipment looks like. It's not supposed to look new and shiny! Those of you who are bothered by blackened cooking utensils, you're not true camping/bushcraft people...
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Very true!
@kylewilkinson6975
@kylewilkinson6975 2 года назад
True to an extent. If you stack your cookware then you get soot from one in the other. Unless you scrub or line with rag or paper towel.
@alivekicking5415
@alivekicking5415 Год назад
Enjoyed your video 👌 thanks
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Thanks for watching it!
@johnharris6544
@johnharris6544 4 месяца назад
Hiram Cook tested this in one of his many video on alcohol stoves. He was wondering if the black increased the time to boil due to insulating the pot or if it sped it up due to black absorbing more heat. The blackened pots did boil faster but it did require more than half of the usual fuel to get there. Great video!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much!
@Hannah-zc8gn
@Hannah-zc8gn Год назад
I'd also like like add, if you have a ss skillet like the wwII mess kits, I don't scrub the inside either. You can season them like a cast iron skillet so they become nonstick. It doesn't work as well for something mostly used for boiling of heating up liquids, but if you have something you use to cook meat, season it so you won't have to bring any oil
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Interesting. Thanks for watching!
@patriotordinance9695
@patriotordinance9695 2 года назад
Good job ,very good information , 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@richardrogers8254
@richardrogers8254 5 месяцев назад
Cool advice 😁
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@BingWatcher
@BingWatcher 3 года назад
Nice video, James. I have read all the comments and I am not going to enter into the debate over clean vs dirty. But 🤔 there one certain way to increase the efficiency of your cooking and that's to put a LID on the cook pot. 🙄
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Absolutely! Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
@jamesbowen5573
@jamesbowen5573 2 года назад
Nice cup of ash cider... I'll have to try the packs.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching.
@shofarox4037
@shofarox4037 2 года назад
🤓Great...great...GREAT... 🤔This is probably the best TIP/DIY outdoors channel... 😉You even include Mors Kochansky's quotes giving that way the credits instead of taking them for your own...👍💁🏻‍♂️👏
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@BrosephRussell
@BrosephRussell 3 года назад
Great video
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you!
@sprung5062
@sprung5062 Год назад
damn i learned something new every time i watch you ,,, thanks man ,, i really enjoy your content and insights
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@lucyfuir6386
@lucyfuir6386 5 месяцев назад
If you go into any commercial kitchen that's been around for a while you will see the bottom of all the aluminum pans have been blackened. When I was in the biz we never scrubbed them down to bare metal. We put them through the dishwasher and scrape off anything sticky or chunky like you said. But the bottom were often blackened
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Indeed.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
I know this is an opinion video but it really works! So whether or not you want to wash your pots thoroughly on the outside is up to you. Of course you should strive for overall cleanliness when you're in the back country. And, if you're in a survival situation, you should take special care of the surfaces that touch your food. However, this will give you another option for accelerating the cooking and boiling time when you're in the woods. Thank you for watching and please leave your comments in the comment section below.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Год назад
There is opinion and there is fact and the fact is I like your opinion, and agree with the facts on which it is based.
@richardhatt6541
@richardhatt6541 4 года назад
I used my issued canteen cup for many things from shaving and washing up in the field to cooking with the Boy Scouts. It got blackened and never was able to get it clean enough to turn in. I still have it and occasionally use it still use it depending on what I am doing. The inside was always clean.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Yes, for sure clean the inside! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@DLHalverson
@DLHalverson Месяц назад
Good to know !
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@chiefkirk
@chiefkirk 4 года назад
Great video brother James. Makes perfect sense that the black would heat up faster. To illustrate the point, this August lay your hand on the hood of a black car. No don't cause you'll get burned. Black draws heat. I never wear a black shirt in the summer for that reason. Like you said brother it's a matter of preference. Thanks for sharing that info. God Bless.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you, Chief! God bless you too!
@MrMann703
@MrMann703 4 месяца назад
Enjoyed the video. I'll wipe off the loose residue but i hardly wash them, i like the blackened look, adds character. The black is soot and soot is a dirty carbon, carbon has the highest thermal conductivity, much more than stainless steel, so it stands to reason that to whatever degree soot (carbon) would aid in the transfer of heat through the metal and into the food allowing a person to use less wood in the process.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
Good point! It's always good to apply science!
@dirtydoigler2116
@dirtydoigler2116 4 года назад
I would have thought that all the soot forms an insulated layer and would have to be washed off for more efficiency. That's why economizers have soot blowers on ships (although they're not scrubbed to a polish, just has the soot blasted off, some abrasion with walnut shells occasionally), but maybe you're school of thought is really the better one. I'm going to have to try this out and do some of my own testing! I've never heard of this before, and if it does work, it will definitely be useful. Thanks for the video!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@wanderingcalamity360
@wanderingcalamity360 4 года назад
It would depend on the thickness of the layer. Depending on the ship and mechanism, they can produce quite a bit of carbon fouling that can gunk up critical surfaces if not cleaned regularly. Not only impeding heat transfer, but causing blockages and binding up moving parts. Conversely, consider the thickness of the carbon patina on a cast iron skillet, for example. Not a problem, in most cooks' opinions, despite being thick enough to form a cohesive film over the iron. And you're not building up a huge layer of grunge on your pot, just allowing a little soot and oxide to blacken it so it's not reflecting heat like, say, a mylar blanket would.
@florarix7091
@florarix7091 4 года назад
Looks like you got hit with the same weather we did here in update NY. Have had a lot of single digit temps. Actually got up to freezing today. Can't wait for spring to come.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Yes. The snow is beautiful!
@florarix7091
@florarix7091 4 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival true but even my dogs haven't wanted to be out in it, which is very unusual.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
@@florarix7091 That's interesting!
@fokkerd3red618
@fokkerd3red618 2 года назад
I love watching your videos, because there so informative. Let's just hope i won't have to put all of them to use. I might miss Perry Mason.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Right? Lol. Thanks for watching!
@Gliouxmie
@Gliouxmie 5 месяцев назад
Another good trick I saw on a Blackie Thomas video is to forgo the waiting and just spray the outside of your bushpots with black high-heat BBQ spray paint. It does the job for less than 10 bucks and still looks "clean" after countless uses with the even coating.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Yes, you can definitely do that!
@schalkbasson2053
@schalkbasson2053 2 года назад
You are correct in the old days they use black stove polich to put on the stoves and it work just as good on carst iron pots on the outside . Enjoy jou program
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Good information. Thanks for watching!
@donvandenberg5301
@donvandenberg5301 3 года назад
Been watching your videos for a while and just stumbled across this one. Love what you're doing. Keep it up brother.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@user-wu3qe1gr9e
@user-wu3qe1gr9e 4 месяца назад
@1:38 I was doing the exact same thing an split my thumb wide open. (Gloves please ❤) Also, thank you for doing this in what looks like Heaven. RIP Mors 🙏
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
You definitely have to be careful and be in full control of the blade when you do this.
@user-wu3qe1gr9e
@user-wu3qe1gr9e 4 месяца назад
@@WayPointSurvival true. Rookie mistake on my part. I'd just hate to see you (or anyone) have to do an impromptu 1st aid lesson on the Tube. Just lookin out for ya. Keep up the good work brother. Always enjoy your vids 👍
@southernlonghorn4507
@southernlonghorn4507 4 года назад
Yep, thanks for explaining this in simple common man terms AND with a good quote from a great woods wise guy. Being a mechanical engineer, I can give ya lots of geeky heat transfer formulas if you have trouble sleeping and need some boredom. It would be super cool for you to do a head to head competition of shiny vs sooty!!! 👍
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you! I have had several comments disagreeing with the blackened pot idea. The problem seems to be in misunderstanding the difference between the transfer of heat mechanisms ie. Radiation vs. Conduction. This was my answer: You're talking about conduction rather than radiation. So a blackened pot won't absorb any more thermal radiation sitting on a fire than a silvered one, from the bottom. However, hanging over a fire or next to a fire or even on the sides, a blackened pot will absorb more thermal radiation than a silvered pot. So if you're using it over a stove, like an alcohol stove, there won't be any real difference in the thermal transfer. However, the advantage to a blackened pot is that it will melt snow more efficiently in the sunlight. And after you boil water in a blackened pot, the water will also cool down quicker than a silver pot because it emits infrared more efficiently. Also there are significant differences between stainless steel, cast iron and aluminum etc. because of the difference in the conductivity of the metals themselves. In an ideal world, a pot made of actual silver would be the best conductor but it has more to do with the efficiency of the metal itself as a conductor of heat rather than the color of the pot. So, a blackened silver pot would be the best of both worlds IMHO.
@johnlea8519
@johnlea8519 3 года назад
Great video, I always like to have a valid excuse for NOT doing something.....👍
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Right? Thanks for watching!
@Mayhemcountryliving
@Mayhemcountryliving 4 месяца назад
Good stuff
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@hypo345
@hypo345 4 года назад
I do believe the black is faster myth has been busted a long time ago. It's a personal choice but as you say if resources are scarce and time of the essence then external cleaning isn't a priority. The ash from a fire mixed with a few drops of water makes an amazing cleaning paste in many countries where water is precious pots are always cleaned this way.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Yes, I have used ashes with water to wash my hands.
@hypo345
@hypo345 4 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival Mark Young did a sooty/shiny test once with Alcohol stove and also on a wood fire. No clear winner and may even be in favour of the shiny pot. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-alKYPFvdXlM.html
@jeffvaughn7987
@jeffvaughn7987 4 года назад
I've tested this (unscientifically) many times. Boil times aren't significantly different either way. That being said, mine are sooty most of the time, but cleaning them up once in a while is a good thing too.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Right, because you're talking about conduction rather than radiation. So a blackened pot won't absorb any more thermal radiation sitting on a fire than a silvered one, from the bottom. However, hanging over a fire or next to a fire or even on the sides, a blackened pot will absorb more thermal radiation than a silvered pot. So if you're using it over a stove, like an alcohol stove, there won't be any real difference in the thermal transfer. However, the advantage to a blackened pot is that it will melt snow more efficiently in the sunlight. And after you boil water in a blackened pot, the water will also cool down quicker than a silver pot because it emits infrared more efficiently. Also there are significant differences between stainless steel, cast iron and aluminum etc. because of the difference in the conductivity of the metals themselves. In an ideal world, a pot made of actual silver would be the best conductor but it has more to do with the efficiency of the metal itself as a conductor of heat rather than the color of the pot. So, a blackened silver pot would be the best of both worlds IMHO. Thank you so much for your dialogue on this!
@hypo345
@hypo345 4 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival Melting snow not a common experience in UK but I can see that a black pot would be good for that.
@HuplesCat
@HuplesCat 4 года назад
Black absorbed heat so good advice if you are cool with soot on everything
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Agreed. The soot can be a factor. But it's usually just toward the bottom so it doesn't bother the taste. And, you definitely need a bag or pouch to carry it in afterwards.
@tarangrover7
@tarangrover7 2 года назад
good advice cool
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@robdoyle5821
@robdoyle5821 2 года назад
Thanks for another great video. You should take up photography as beautiful as your property can be.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you so much, it is a very pretty place.
@St0rmrider73
@St0rmrider73 2 года назад
I've done a couple tests because I've heard the same thing and I've also seen several videos of other people testing that theory and my conclusions and theirs were all pretty much that the difference is negligible and that the sooty pot sometimes was somewhat slower to boil. With that info it really comes down to a preference of what the user finds more ascetically pleasing to them.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching. I think I'll go with Mors kochanski on this one though.
@St0rmrider73
@St0rmrider73 2 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival lol alright, you do you bro. I was just making a simple statement based on my own tests as well as tests I've seen by others. Mors got his info from "an old manual, used by plumbers." Which isn't really "Data" to back up the theory. Most people most of the time these days have their cookware on direct heat. At the very least, state that you are referring to radiant and not conductive heat and how a dark pot may absorb heat from a distance quicker than a shiny one and there isn't really a difference on a direct heat source. Especially when your video is showing the pots on a direct heat source. I honestly get where you are coming from but it is not clear in your video. I'm just saying it would be good to differentiate between the two as well as probably state "so in my opinion," that way the people watching will fully understand what is being discussed. Perhaps it would help to do a follow up video showing identical pots, one new and one seasoned, on direct heat as well as indirect heat and so forth with thermometers and timers so everyone can actually see what works best in each situation. Then they can decide what they like the best for their personal style of camping/bushcrafting. Because for me I like a cleaner looking pot and use direct heat when I cook as I'm sure others do as well.
@haroldcotten1840
@haroldcotten1840 2 года назад
Nice snow also
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you!
@garyminick1050
@garyminick1050 4 года назад
Good point
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thank you!
@sifusasdo2314
@sifusasdo2314 4 года назад
Love to hear that 😂 Great Video 👍 U may triggered out a Revolution under the dishwasher worldwide 😂 In Gourmet Restaurants the cooks often Just put salt in the dirty pans and wipe it out with a piece of paper from a kitchen roll...works great but waste Salt..(had to learn that too....Long Time ago)
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip! Good to know.
@kylewilkinson6975
@kylewilkinson6975 2 года назад
If sand is available it's great for scrubbing but have to rinse thoroughly
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 3 месяца назад
the spine of a Victorinox saw blade works just as well is also an excellent ferro rod striker of course due to its narrow profile careful thimb placement is required
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 месяца назад
True. You also have to be careful that it doesn't fold up on you.
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 3 месяца назад
@WayPointSurvival I've found that's where the careful placement comes in usually just in front of the pivot point and get the angle right 😇
@jacksonteller1337
@jacksonteller1337 Год назад
A cheap or improvised lid will reduce the amount of cook time and prevent stuff from falling or flying into your cook pot. That is why the GI cup with lid and BCB crusader with lid are so popular. That lid will save cook time and keep the nasties out.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Yes, I have many lids. However, when I'm making a video I often leave the lid off as it's easier to film it when it hits a rolling boil.
@dobrofool
@dobrofool Год назад
My little trick to clean the stickiness/surface carbon after cooking (and after cooking stuff cools down obviously): I carry a nice small bundle of 1/4” jute twine for making birds nests. I simply chop off about 1-1/2’, quickly unstrand the 3 twines, and then scrape them into hair against a log or other wood surface. Scraping down any size jute twine with the blade, or the spine of a knife is a lot faster than untwisting every strand and pulling with your fingers, but I digress. I only pull apart the strands of a quarter inch thick jute twine. But then it stops there and I use the knife. It works great. But getting back to how this ties in with the black pots: my jute twine is a fire starter. The black soot is a form of charcoal. Hello? I use my bundle of jute twine to scrub off the surface stickiness after cooking. It does a phenomenal job, and the black soot builds up on the jute twine, making it more susceptible to taking a flame! So. Dual purpose. After I remove just the stickiness from the pan or pot, then that pot gets slipped into a small carry bag, so just in case I missed anything, it doesn’t dirty up anything inside my ruck. My jute twine goes into a special separate pouch as well for the same reasons. Meanwhile, my pots get blacker and blacker as I do this for the same reasons. Quite honestly, physical science actually backs up this practice. Some people actually paint the underside of their cookware with high heat black paint 😉 😎
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Great tip! Thanks for sharing it!
@168Diplomat
@168Diplomat 4 месяца назад
Lol I just finished a cup of the exact same cider when I clicked on the video. Lol
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
What are the odds, lol!
@larryalbert1027
@larryalbert1027 4 месяца назад
In my days we were told to put liquid soap on the outside of the pot for easy clean up
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 месяца назад
That also works!
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 5 месяцев назад
I've never noticed shiny, new pots or cups taking longer to boil water. But now I'm curious. I'd like you or someone to do a side-by-side comparison. My prediction is no noticeable difference between the shiny new pot and the blackened one. So, nice job. Thank you for an interesting video.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@patshoemake7883
@patshoemake7883 2 года назад
I have an old scout trick you can use... before you use cookware, take ivory dish soap andrub over the outside, the outside only, of cup or pan. Allow to dry. Then use as usual. Later when cooking is done, the cleanup is easy. No black to get on everything later.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thank you for watching and for sharing the tip!
@dhession64
@dhession64 3 года назад
I've noticed that, not only do you have fabulous content and helpful advice, you sorta look like Steve Howey. If you watched Reba on TNN or Shameless on HBO, you'll see it as well. He was pretty clean in Reba, but his language in Shameless was less than saintly. Both programs were most entertaining. I've watched about ten of your videos, and with all I've seen from other channels and what I've experienced, you do a really good job. I'm a recent (two days ago) sub but have tried to take in as much of your content as I can. You and Jon Townsend need to get together, and throw Dan Wowack into the mix as well. If Dave Canterbury will join in, it would be the trifecta. I know there are a lot of people out there who have outstanding content, but you can't get them all together unless it's a Rabbitstick style gathering. But you never know. Keep up the good work, sir. Thank you for what you do. I'll keep watching.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you so much for watching and for all your kind words, much appreciated! Also, thank you for the sub and welcome aboard!
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 3 года назад
Dark pots are fine, don’t want to look like a Pilgrim. Beautiful, take care.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Thank you, my friend!
@myownprivateglasgow280
@myownprivateglasgow280 6 месяцев назад
Pure boggin'.... ;) On a similar note I haven't cleaned my frying pan in 14 years.
@zanewoodward4822
@zanewoodward4822 2 месяца назад
Nice !
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@BoonDoc63
@BoonDoc63 Год назад
I’ve been camping and cooking over an open fire for a million years and I never really gave it much thought but you’re right. A black pot boils faster than a shinny one. Why didn’t I think of that? I don’t like doing the dishes anyway. Win, Win.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@garyjohnson4608
@garyjohnson4608 3 года назад
Mors, rest in peace. We miss you
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Yes, what an amazing man. Thank you for watching!
@slipbobberwilli
@slipbobberwilli Год назад
Just curious how do you clean your pots in the field do you have a small clean kit or do you just use sand and scrub it till you get home? Thanks good video
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
I do carry a small Scotch-Brite pad in my kit. But usually I will just use sand and then wash it thoroughly when I get home.
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 5 месяцев назад
I think I'm going to get me some of that black fireproof paint. 😅
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
That works too.
@kokopelau6954
@kokopelau6954 2 года назад
My grandma cooked on a wood stove, inside of cookware spotless outside not so much she was born in 1880's. I learned from her and grandad. And my dad also.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 6 месяцев назад
👍👍👍 I watched this some time ago and perhaps added my two cents worth .. I forget. It popped up again on my feed and was well worth a re-watch. Black pots. I only remove the 'loose stuff' off the outside of my cookware so as to not dirty-up anything else that comes into contact with it. My understanding of physics has me believing that a black surface absorbs most, radiant heat / heat in the visible light spectrum, making Mors' contention regarding black pots over a fire believable. Knife technique .. I have been 'trimming / whittling' towards my thumb for 60+ years and still have to cut myself .. yet .. 😏. If one know what one is doing, stays focused, the most important digit on one's hand 'should' be safe. There is always a first time though. One assesses the risk and accepts the consequences.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 6 месяцев назад
Indeed. Thanks for watching again!
@jimtalor9537
@jimtalor9537 4 года назад
I really like that haversack... Did you make that yourself? Great hacks!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 4 года назад
Yes, I made the haversack from an old pair of insulated Carhartt pants. Thank you so much for watching and for your comment!
@utej.k.bemsel4777
@utej.k.bemsel4777 5 месяцев назад
Hahaha, when i started my hobby, my mother cleaned my blackened stuff till it blinked again...🤣
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 5 месяцев назад
Right?
@tariqalijanpk
@tariqalijanpk 3 года назад
From now I'll don't clean My military canteen's cup from the outside, I used to clean it from outside, Thank you again,
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Год назад
I use the same bowl for all my meals until the dishwasher is full. If my wife were as indiscriminate as I am it might take a month or more to fill the dishwasher. The crumbs and such from a meal dries in the bowl between meals but I clean my bowl pretty good so it doesn’t really matter. It never looks boggin even after two weeks. hahah I learned a new word.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival Год назад
Thanks for watching and I'm always amazed about what we learn from the comment section!
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Год назад
@@WayPointSurvival James, you are a Prince and a model to be emulated when it comes to polite response. As you might guess I would go along with this RU-vid’s subject out of laziness even if there were no other reasons.
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 3 года назад
Agreed. Wipe clean the inner, remove loose outer soot and associated, place into a bag / cloth to protect other gear and pack away. At home .. a thorough wash of the inner and a rub down of the outer with a synthetic sponge to remove the 'will-still-wipe-off' stuff. Black determined to stay put is left in peace.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
Agreed. Thank you for watching!
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 3 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival 👍
@adib396
@adib396 2 года назад
With you on this James. Hmmm....who should we listen to? Mors Kochanski or a random RU-vidr comment. ;-) Love the scenery in this video as well.
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 2 года назад
Right? Thank you for watching!
@juliusgonzo7527
@juliusgonzo7527 3 года назад
Like your vids. new subsciber. Have you ever thoght about using heavy duty aluminum foil to make a dry base in the snow for your fire starting ?
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 3 года назад
No, I haven't. But, that is a great idea! Thank you so much for the suggestion and welcome aboard!
@juliusgonzo7527
@juliusgonzo7527 3 года назад
@@WayPointSurvival I usually pull the foil out with a multi-tool plyers once the fire is sustainable, to avoid any type of burning aluminum into what ever I'll be heating or cooking, (only if food, dont worry about coffee, soup etc.), but the foil typically lasts a nice amount of time to get things going with no snow melt interference...and a good amount of foil can pack small very nicely..
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