Alot of people do that in Ireland too. I was sitting for 15 mins yesterday a foreigner got on and handed the driver a €50 note! Driver said sorry I can't take that it's exact fare. Well she wouldn't get off she was fighting with him saying she had the money it was wrong he wouldn't take it! Well I got just got super pissed off and I knew the driver and knew he had only buried his Mother few wks before so I just got up and very politely said to the girl "Have u no coins?" She snapped at me "NO" So I just took out €4 and put it into the machine took the receipt gave it to her and smiled! She didn't even say thanks she just did "PFFFFT" and walked off! I live in Dublin and all busses it says EXACT FARE ONLY. We don't have just card payment YET
...thanks Carol...that was a really nice thing that you did for the driver and for the passenger! I know that contactless payments will be brought in to many towns and cities over the next 5-10 years....!!! It's the way that the world 🌍🌎🌏 is going...!!!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton We only have Go Ahead just started now the last few weeks. They have taken 26 of Dublin Bus routes. People arnt really happy cos Dublin Bus I'm sure like ur company is a family above all else and everyone nearly has a loved one or family member a driver so it's not going down well lol
@@carolpaula2204 ...hi Carol...Yes family bus companies have that lovely personal touch...it's important that is passed on to the employees and then through to the customer! 🙂
I almost always thank the bus driver, even sometimes if they're rude to other people. I always say thank you if they're rude to me... Kill them with kindness - if you swear at them or something they don't even notice it. If you are polite to a rude person, it's possible they've had a bad day or something and there's a chance they'll realise how rude they were.
Apparently I've seen in London, passengers don't really say "Hello" to drivers often. In Ireland that is the opposite. You usually see passengers greet drivers but they don't greet back
....it is yes but I remember drivers who started in 1964 retiring in 2007 after 43 years service under their belt! One driver finished, signed off and went home. The drivers and union got together and arranged an official 'goodbye' for him!
A new one for me recently - passengers playing the oyster beep via their mobile phones to avoid paying. Every single one I've caught has produced an unvalidated oyster after being asked to tap their oyster again to check. The thing that highlighted it to me was the pitch of the beep was off and no ticket type came up on ETM screen. Something to keep an eye out for!
Xpert_Destroyer 4 You probably can’t just open one door. And some people might want to get off at the backdoor so if you open it for the people getting off and then try to close it before someone gets on you might end up injuring someone.
From what I've read the police in London is severely underfunded, and no politician seems to be willing to change that - so behavior like these will probably go on forever (this is a guy that didn't tap in with his oyster card and the bus driver confronted him about it): /watch?v=4FA2bJFdfeI
Brain Davison more a case that it happens at every other bus stop in London and to constantly confront people about it would be incredibly tiring for a driver who’s got enough to focus on with driving.
@@ThePaperCreater "Overall funding fell by 19%, taking inflation into account", from the article entitled "Police funding in England and Wales" - fullfact.org/crime/police-funding-england-and-wales ....Enlighten yourself.
Martin Herikson in the uk we very rarely have ticket inspectors on buses, I’ve never seen one and my friend was really suprised when some were on her bus! On trains we always have people checking tickets but not on buses 🤷🏼♀️
Mentally Tilly I’ve never seen one either actually, only on trains maybe once a year. So that system doesn’t work, but at least the buses are moving without unnecessary delays. I saw an article once, where it said how much money Stockholm doesn’t get from tickets, and it was maaaany million Swedish crowns a year 🤦♂️
Well a relation of mine did get a £200 fine on a London bus, it was when tfl were accepting cash and she lost her paper ticket and the bus driver couldn't remember if he had sold her a paper ticket or not. She had never been known to tfl for fare evasion so I suspect had she appealed to the independent body stating it had been an honest mistake they would have cancelled her fine, the thing was she wrote to our local MP for advice (no help she should have appealed) and also was threatened with bailiffs so panicked and paid it.
Really? I lived in Stockholm for about a year and the drivers always checked if the ticket was being correctly validated or not. They even faced you when while you were entering the bus That’s why I got the impression that they were the ones responsible for confirming the correct ticket validation
The reason tfl introduced zip for oyster in 2008 is because some school children run rampant on buses, graffiti, and vandalise. Every child has to tap in so tfl have a way of identifying offenders who mistreat buses. It's not a money making thing.
Hello from Innsbruck/Austria. Here, we have 2 systems for boarding a bus: 1.) Suburban routes and sightseeing busses: you have to get on at the front door and show your ticket or pay. 2.) citytraffic in innsbruck: you can use every door, tickets are only controlled by ticket inspectors (sometimes) or as an incident occures. greetings
Meanwhile onbaord Singapore's public buses we board only from the front (except for a handful of bus stops where really many people are boarding, where an inspector is stationed at the exit), but alighting is allowed at the front at the bus service's last stop, & @ other stops too sometimes (if you don't get in the way of too many people boarding). However, university campus' shuttle buses allow all-door boarding (except during the pandemic, so the driver could check that non-students & staff aren't boarding, for crowd control reasons) as they're 'free' (funded by students' miscellaneous fees instead of fares), though some students complain that non-students & staff should be banned from the shuttles (& use the public buses serving the campuses instead, to reduce shuttle overcrowding)
in Philly (U.S.) the boarding the bus is by front doors and pay by the driver. Rear doors would be opened when there is a person leaving (or request for stroller or person with shopping cart (not the store cart, personal cart people get)) and the driver would often close the rear doors if people finish unboarding and won't open them if nobody stands by them for unboarding. In Milwaukee rear doors have to be pushed out by passengers manually if they exit. In majority of Polish networks you can enter by any doors you want to (no double deckers in Poland :( ) but articulated busses have 4 to at times 6 doors (2 to 4 sets on front part of the bus (I think in Czech I saw a 4, there is a youtube channel from that network, don't remember the name) and 2 doors on the back part. Passangers have to validate the tickets (and/or cards) and there can be an inspection at any time, where you can be ticketed for not having valid fare. And nowadays the ticket control have often electronic check system and all that.
In Angus, Scotland we have a driver and conductor. So we just get on the bus and sit down then the conductor comes and takes our money so the driver only has to focus on driving.
I live in a small town in Poland. You have to buy a ticket from the bus driver. Those that go in the front door are those that are trying to buy a ticket. Those that go in through the middle/back of the bus have already purchased tickets. It's controlled by two random inspectors that will board and check for tickets. If you don't have a ticket they'll fine you.
Frequently make short trips on Auckland (New Zealand) buses and have seen it happen twice this year. In both cases, the driver noticed and in one case, they refused to leave until everyone had a valid ticket or HOP card. The driver doesn't have a protection screen in Auckland, so can easily interact with passengers when needed. I have seen someone board at the rear door and tag on, when the rear reader is usually used for tagging off only.
@@DoubleDeckerAnton The reason for tagging off in Auckland is that the same fare zone system used for trains applies for buses. That means for my trip from home to uni, which is NZ$3.75 with tertiary discount costs NZ$3.75 (£1.38, 3 Zones) for the train and NZ$0.00 (Difference between 3 zone fare and fare paid) for the bus. The return trip is $1.40 for the bus (70p, 1 zone) and $2.35 (£1.18, difference between fare paid and 3 zone fare). Currency conversions are approximate because £:NZ$ is about 1:2 but not exactly.
@@DC4444 we have the same system in Melbourne, Australia but some people who take the bus then a train won't touch off their myki cards as it automatically touches off from the bus and on for the train at the station
@@JordysRailVideos Doesn't work like that in Auckland. If you try, you get an error when you try to tag on a train after getting off a bus or a bus after getting off a train. The first scenario, bus to train is more annoying if you forget to tag off because the reader is on the bus and the bus has left. With train to bus, you go back to the train station and tag off.
I live in Austria now and you just walk on the bus, either door. There is random ticket checks to ensure people stick to the system. You buy the ticket either on your phone or at the machine. There is also a yearly pass for 365 euros (1 euro for every day of the year)
What will you say about the people using there phone to trick the bus driver by playing the sound that the thing makes and tricking you in thinking they payed with there phone ?
Great video as usual Anton I find the worst ones with a single door Bus are large groups of school children after they’ve finished school as they are like a stampede and all push on not giving us drivers enough chance to see thief tickets/passes or issue them tickets
Yes Jonny...I always remember the schoolkids causing problems up in Yorkshire! In London, they are actually ok...well behaved! But I do mostly citywork!
My country is now encouraging younger students to use public transport to get to/from school, instead of using school buses, due to a school bus driver shortage
Scotland here, and the bus company where I live has recently started accepting mobile tickets and contactless card payments, but it's a conscious act to open up the mobile app and scan it, or ask the driver to pay by card. You don't just walk onto the bus and boop anything. It's convenient but not so unconscious that people can get away with not paying.
In Romania, buses use the trust system. Tickets are bought before we board the bus and on the bus there are ticket validators. Randomly, ticket controllers board buses and check for valid tickets and if you don't have one you get fined. Our buses also have 3 doors, and quite often the first one, the driver one, is left closed.
Mario prick. There’s no problem here, just walk through the front door. Almost all buses in the whole country have one simple door. You can just board trains without having to buy a ticket if you want, but if a checky catches you you get fined
Cornish bus driver here. All. Our buses have 1 door so fairly easy to spot Fare dodgers but the point I wanted to make is that bus drivers are having more and more tasks pushed onto them, it's no longer just driving a bus. Even in cornwall we have so many different types of cards or passes and we're supposed to know exactly what one does what and then do fares And then driver the bus. Its understandable that sometimes confusion gets you. Happens to the best of us anton, iv been driving 9 years now and still happens a lot lol
It’s not only in England It happens in NZ too we have a similar thing to the oaster card and people try to sneak pass the drivers...we have enviro 200s here and they have a second door but second door is only for exit. In Sydney my dad was a bus driver and people would make excuses and someone tried paying a bus fare with $100 in hopes of getting a free trip because drivers only carry loose change...
In Aarhus, Denmark we have yellow city buses - all 2/3 doors are used for both entering and exiting with the "exit first - then enter" principle. It's a lot quicker, but also allows for people to cheat the system We do have security guards who check tickets once in a while though
I live in london and i use the bus everyday for school, socialy ect and i see stuff like this all the time especially on the 3 door ones where u can hop on the back and half the time the back readers dont work
In the U.S., I drive for First Transit and our college students know exactly how the etiquette works. They say hello, show their college IDs, get in their seats, say thank you, then exit. I'm not sure how it works for the other services in town, but I'm sure there are some problems with this even with new students arriving to the campus. Now that I think of it, I did have one student wiz by me without showing her ID due to it being busy. After all the other passengers boarded, I did approach the young lady to ask for her card and she kindly did. Sometimes people are listening to music on there earbuds like this instance and just need to be asked nicely. When I do end up in London, I will make sure I end up on your bus. I have enjoyed watching your videos along with The Flat Cap Bus Driver (Shaun). You two are the main reason I took to driving for my employer. Compared to school bus driving, driving for the university is much more enjoyable especially with the nice ElDorado National buses. :)
NPC#1911-EGUK tfl busses don’t take money, only oyster / contactless but he works for tfl so he’ll have an oyster which gives him free travel on busses and trains (certain zones)
In Sydney and most parts of Australia buses usually have 1-2 doors (exception of articulated buses) but only the front door is used for passengers to get on. All other doors are for either people to get out or used for emergencies . Usually boarding through the back will have the driver tell you off unless you are making space for people to get off and thus get back on once those alighting passengers have gotten off
Congrats on 21K subs Anton! Been subscribed for a few months, but first time commenting, not really had an interest in buses but you seem to make it all quite interesting in your videos, I’m surprised how strict things seem to be on London Buses, I live in Birmingham (UK) and the standard is awful, most drivers don’t seem to speak much English, they never really look at your pass when boarding a bus, and there’s been a lot of journeys where people smoke on the top dec of busses and the drivers never seem to care. Puts me off traveling on buses to be honest, wish we had this standard in Birmingham!
...thanks Matt for commenting and enjoying my videos ....Yes there are a lot of pressures on bus drivers in general...!!! We don't have the resources to deal with things...!!! I understand some drivers are too afraid to challenge 'the smokers 🚬 ' on the upper deck in Birmingham! In London I only catch one person a year smoking on my bus...it's vastly improved down here! But there will always be issues on buses...!!! CCTV on every bus helps plus there are probably a lot of police in London compared to the city of Birmingham!
I live in Wiltshire and still take cash but no card! Had a chap that got on from London with no cash only card and he was amazed when I refused his card! Being the nice man I am found him genuine and felt sorry for him so I let him on but it was amazing at his reaction when he asked “well, how do people pay” and I said “the old fashioned way, cash” lol.
Down here in Taunton the only bus company is the Buses of Somerset and we still accept cash and card but a lot of people use the MTickets app for weekly tickets. our buses only have front doors and half of our buses are 12,62,13 or 63 reg's if they aren't private. As well as that most passengers know most drivers. Love your videos keep up the good work!
Wow this was uploaded early! I dont normally use the bus but if i saw your bus i would defo come on. And you'd get to see stuff you dont see from the tube too! Idk in Bristol south glos but i dont use bus much.
Nowadays we get undercover ticket inspectors where they act like a passenger and then as soon as the bus doors close ticket inspection takes place these inspectors are one of the smarter ones 😂
In Ireland the driver only opens the second door to let people off. He then waits for everybody to get off, closes both doors and opens the front door to load everybody. That way nobody can sneak on. We have no bus inspectors in Ireland but since everybody boards individually through the same door there's no issue.
If you came to Serbia, you'd be looking for a bridge to jump off of within five minutes. It's a madhouse here to the point that the drivers don't even bother. Instead, a conductor boards a random bus and checks if people paid for the ride. Often, the police has to be involved.
How a out a partial solution mand the back sets of doors or put bus card readers at all doors even then there was someone people still slipped past octranspo ottawa canada. Fare inspectors do catch some of the non paying passengers.
...some people walk on the 3 door new borisbus routemaster without paying...!!! It's best to have only one oyster machine at the front! That way it is obvious others who walk on the other doors haven't paid..!!
Bus rules: Make sure the bus driver sees you pay. Ring the bell once, DON'T go ding ding ding. It annoys the driver and the passengers. Say thank you to the bus driver when leaving the bus, they really appreciate it. Don't confuse the driver.
21K Subs! .. Well that was unexpected BUT well deserved! ... Your gonna start wishing I did start that GoFundMe to buy you a printer I joked about a while back! :) ... You are on your way to becoming RU-vid's first celebrity bus driver! :) ... Q: Do any of your passengers ever recognise you? ... or even ask for selfie?! .. If so, I wonder what all the other passengers must be thinking when that happens. :) Plus, I would love to know what your Bus Depo and work colleagues think about your growing RU-vid fame, any chance of a video on that subject? :) Thanks DDAnton :)
Thanks Simon...Yes I do remember you from the printing joke lol 🤣 A lot of people recognise me now on a daily basis! Most people say "hey...your the RU-vid guy. !!!"😁👍 My work colleagues have seen a few videos as well and some of them are thinking of starting a channel of their own to tall about 'the bus job'.
'the bus job' sounds cool, i would subscribe! :) Although saying that I am in no way a bus enthusiast and the main reason I am a subscriber and fan of your channel is because of your fun upbeat personality and positive outlook on life! :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HGxjSzCvvkc.html
In The Netherlands they normally keep de back door(s) closed. But when it's really busy all the doors (4 in case of the long busses) are open and you can pay by all the doors. You can choose not to pay, but there are checks regularly and you get a hefty fine if you didn't. Sometimes someone will get on board and check you. Other times there is a whole army outside the bus checking you.
But the Boris Buses have a reader on the middle and rear doors. Is that the reason there might be some confusion? BTW Los Angeles just started testing all-door boarding (with the RFID card like Oyster, marketed as “TAP”) on certain routes.
...Yes..this system on the Boris bus confuses passengers as the 3 door Boris bus has 4 oyster readers (2 on centre door)...and when the passengers board they realise that they have to walk to the front on a normal 2 door 1 oyster reader bus!
I drive 18 and 21 meter buses with three and four doors. It's impossible to catch all fare dodgers. And something I really can't understand is how unprepared a lot of tourists are. They don't know how to pay on the bus or where to get off, and get angry at the driver if he doesn't know either
from what you have described to me it seemed like the guys were "*SHARING*" oyster cards by coming on in groups whilst one of them goes to the back only for the friend to pass him his oyster and for the guy without a ticket to scan someone else's card
Here in the Netherlands it's normal to get on the bus at the front (with one of the few exceptions is the busline 300 Amsterdam Bijlmer Haarlem) and than we checkin (tap in) with the OV-chipcard and when we exit the bus we checkout (tap out). if someone does get on the back of the bus (except 300), the bus driver will say you can't get on at the back and need to get on the front. if someone doesn't have an OV-chipcard than you can pay with pin and than you get an Ov-chipcard for a limeted time (depends on how much you pay most give don't give a day)
This is the best comment I’ve seen! Exactly, it doesn’t increase your monthly wage neither does it decrease it! Get on and drive the bus and get everyone to there destinations, we have places to be in London specifically rush hour and this wastes a lot of time! This is an inspectors job, just drive the bus!
Joe Bloggs reason why I’m having to do this is because he is delaying me and all the other people that have rightly paid the full fare to get to there destination. If I’ve got on a bus to go to work at a specific time in order to get to work on time, why should my journey and everyone else’s who have rightly paid for their fares be delayed and late because someone decided they don’t want to pay? That is extremely unfair! If a bus driver wants to discuss fares with a passenger then they should do that in their own time not mine when I have somewhere to go and I’ve paid! I’ve been in situations where the driver will completely turn the engine off because someone refuses to pay! It’s unfair to eat into people’s time like that. Your a bus driver please drive the bus. The inspector can take care of that or do it in your own time! And soz, I won’t be sharing details of my job. I think this one is simple though, a bus driver drives the bus, so simple. Have a good evening
The Oyster card system was introduced because it is faster than cash, faster means cheaper, more time driving as opposed to sat in a bus stop selling tickets. The system is like self scan checkouts, they know they are going to get ripped off, but the benefits outweigh the amount they get ripped off.
I once realy had to get the bus but had no money so i pretended to drop my phone and say it was broken and i had yellow bus app they let me on free but its the most scum thing ive done but the next bus fair i took i paid in double and said
I'm sorry to hear this happens to you as a conductor. It seems people are always trying to pull a fast one, by getting on public transport and not paying their fare. We have a tough job.
Bus drivers aren't expected to multitask. Youre expected to concentrate 100% driving...love your videos! I was driving a bus too , until I fell ill. But when I get my health back, I expect to get back to driving. In the meanwhile I'm learning from your experience to keep me updated. I've made you my mentor.❤
In Singapore, bus drivers will also leave the entrance closed when assisting wheelchair passengers to board/alight, as the ramp is at the exit, so the driver at that time won't be able to check if other passengers are boarding without tapping, or mis-using a concession card
This is so unnecessary! I don’t see why you’ll delay everyone’s journey in London (specifically during rush hour) because of unpaid fares! It doesn’t increase nor decrease your monthly Salary. Just drive the bus please and get us to where we need to be on time! I find it so annoying when my journey is delayed because of this! It is an inspectors job to check the fare is paid not the bus driver! Please sort this out
Shayo Lola OR, just stop giving these poor guys headaches hahaa. They haven't got much rotation anyway so these type of things probably gives them a breather 😅
Bus inspectors don't exist from my 17 years in London haven't seen a single one. If they let people on without tapping In then everyone would do it and tfl would be broke.
Shayo Lola lol ikr because then the people that haven’t paid will get fined so it will be their problem not the drivers😂I went on the 126 and a man got on, he didn’t have his oyster but got on the bus and he refused to get off so the driver turned the engine off and we were delayed by about 5 mins so I get what you mean
Back in the day of Clipper Cards in Manchester, people used to pretend to 'clip' them by not pushing them all the way into the puncher in order to get more trips out of them.
I'm from Vancouver Canada, the buses have a wireless payment contact system at every door. Basically the honor system until transit police do a random check and hit the cheaters with a $173 fine :)
For Holland it is more like "don't confuse the passengers". Every company has different rules. Today I took a tram in Rotterdam and you can enter via every door. An hour later I take a tram in Amsterdam and I I'm only alowed to use the middle door to step in. 15 minutes later I take a bus and I can only take the front-door. I think the best system is a ticket free public system. In the end it saves the community money for a ticket-system, it is good for the environement and good for everybody's stress level.
Johan Wagenaar free public transport will not work in the netherlands. Because of the EU. Everything is private companies running the Public transport. That means they have to make profit. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I'm a guy and I can multitask.... I can type, talking, read, and do multiple other stuff.. Cook, be on the phone watch tv, Plaster a wall, and do other stuff while working.
