Exactly. When I catch a left lane camper, I don't care what they're riding... I'm gonna piss em off and dare em to say a fucking word to me. Didn't even know three guy was there... Or the other ten cats wanting to pass his slow ass either. Rolled up to that stop like he was towing a trailer with prize horses in it.
@@TKLMotoVlog nah. It's common sense and common courtesy. If it takes a law to compel someone to be courteous, mindful and responsible on the road .. then the law should be, those people have to use public transportation.
@@kamikrazywarboy2008 I understand what you are saying.. Yes be courteous and let people pass if you aren't passing on the left lane. But you're missing the point on what I meant when you only see left lane campers. But that does not apply to city streets such as in this video.
Ride your ride, don't pay attention to others. It's important to watch out and be safe. If somebody is playing with your emotions, this means you alow him to control you.
Yeah personally I wouldn't have found that disrespectful I often meet rides at a stop if he blocked your path of travel or swerved in front of you I can see getting mad . But like this guy says just keep a cool head whether or not something makes you angry.
I understand that some riders don't like being 2nd in line. I also understand that if I'm not riding with you I won't share a lane with you. I also understand that you pulling up on my right and in my lane is the same shit as me passing you on the right on a one lane street. I also believe that if you would question that rider he'd probably take offense and feel confronted and shit can come out of it, also was he trying to provoke something 🤔 its a bunch of bullshit but you ignored his ass , best choice. 👌
Ride your ride... Unless you camp the left lane and pull up to stops like you're pulling a loaded trailer... Then maybe pay attention to more experienced riders and do what they do...or get the fuck off the road.
I agree 100%! You weren't riding with him and it wasn't a group ride. The lane you are in is yours, not just the tire track. It's bad enough when a car does it let alone a bike. He'll do that to the wrong rider one day.
Wrong. The lane it's not yours. It's for everyone to use. He explained in another comment he prefers the left lane. However if you do that get ready for other drivers to pass you on the inside. Very simple
@@sachsgs2509 Mr. Sachs, I I'm not trying to change your mind or maybe you don't understand what went on here. If I'm in the right lane in the left tire track, both tire tracks are mine. That's if I'm by myself. If I'm riding in a group other rules apply. Same if I'm occupying the left lane in a particular tire track, the entire left lane is mine if I am riding alone. If there are two lanes or more going in the same direction I can lay claim to one lane. I know there are riders that don't adhere to this and that's Ok until it's not. If you haven't been riding very long I strongly advise you to listen up. It's up to you. I have been riding a long time and what I'm saying is one of the many rules that aren't written down somewhere. Ride Safe. See all the thumbs up? They know.
@@williamwintemberg I'm riding for almost 40 years having gone through 75+ motorcycles including racing MX in Europe. The left lane belongs to vehicles that want to pass. If you stay in the left thinking "it's mine" group riding or not you will be passed from the inside lane. Standard procedure. I strongly advise you to move over and let people pass. As far as the likes what that tells you? Clueless riders like your self.
I've had that happen too. It was a sport bike and I'm on a sport bike, not that makes any difference, but it did piss me off, no doubt. You did the right thing by stopping behind him, but did the wrong thing by riding away in a temper. I understand the temptation, but let the rude one go, I'd rather have have him in front of me than behind me. If you ride behind him for a while it may make him nervous and that's a better payback because you will now be controlling the situation.
Yep there’s absolutely no need for any stranger riding into your lane and then give you that arrogant stupid stair down look to boot especially when there is an open second lane!
You hit the nail on the head! Disrespectful as all hell, that would have lit my fuse big time. He needs to learn a little respect goes a long way. Plus nobody wants to crash because of an ass hat!! Ride Safe! 😎
I never ride beside someone unless I know them well and how they ride. Passing in same lane is rude and probably against the law some places. I'm surprised how many places allow lane splitting too.
Hilarious viewpoint of entitled Harley rider in a 1st world country where motorcycles are weekend toys. In S America or Asia this is normal and how millions of motorcyclists ride when they have somewhere to be or something to deliver. Only difference is if that was Thailand, you would have been passed by 6 bikes, not one haha
Although your slam at him being an entitled Harley rider, and slam on the US is totally uncalled for, I do find your viewpoint of how it’s handled in other countries interesting. Indeed other countries are going to be different inherently, as well as their traffic laws and possible unwritten rules of the road. Hell, there different in other states in the US too. Although it could be considered lane splitting, it’s not something legal in FL so not something you should expect to see/experience. In my opinion, motorcycles should be treated just as cars in a lane. Cars can’t pass each other in the same lane (left or right side) so it should be the same for motorcycles. This isn’t an episode of ‘CHiPs’ where Ponch and Jon ride seamlessly side-by-side down the highway. And due road conditions, bikes rarely stay fixed to the left or right side of the lane they’re in. I know not everybody feels the same way. Heck, even my son will pass me like that, or ride a bit too close where I can’t see him in my mirrors. That’s why i prefaced this comment with “In my opinion”. As motorcycle riders, we have to do our best to watch for every sort of problem on the road, while still trying to enjoy the ride. We shouldn’t add to the problem. *Yes, many motorcycle riders in the US ride for pleasure and not because it’s the only source of transportation like in other countries. Regardless of what country, being courteous to others (especially on the road) should be the norm, and not the exception.
@@TC_Rider63 Of the 500 million motorcycles in the world, only 1% are in the USA. My point was not to "slam" him, just pointing out that his perspective of that pass being "unsafe" or "rude" only exists in his tiny bubble of "biker" reality compared to any place where motorcycles are common, basic transportation. I would love to hear his new opinion after riding a dirt bike delivering food in Bogota for a week. Dozens of highly experienced young riders handlebar to handlebar, wheel to wheel, sharing the lanes, buzzing through traffic and then gathering at each red light like a swarm of bees. This poor dude would lose his mind
I’m constantly adjusting my lane position to give me the best view ahead and to give the best view of ME since cars don’t pay attention at all. I find myself doing a shoulder check when moving from left to right position etc. I keep thinking 🤔 WTF do I keep doing that .. I guess maube I should keep shoulder checking when doing my mini lane changed in my own lane. Yea dude was OUT OF LINE.
This is definitely a Karen rant. At the end of the day you are responsible for your life as much as you can possibly be. Always stay aware of vehicles around you motorbike or 4 wheeled. There's idiots like this all over. Hell, my friend is one. I just smile and ride on. One day they will get in an accident and learn their lesson. While a bad thing to say, these are the people who won't learn until something life risking happens.
I had a guy do the same exact thing to me the other day. I had no idea he was there. I was already running good speed and flew by me. Just glad we didn’t collide
Definitely agree with you. That shit is dangerous and stupid. You asked what might have gone through that guys head to make him think it wss ok. Zero thinking on his part. Just arrogance and entitlement.
I guess i'm just wondering why he couldn't just go by you in the other lane....people in this day and age are concerned with themselves and nothin' else...
Love how he smugly looks over at you like he wants you to say hi or acknowledge him while he smokes a cig lmao.. Good for you for taking off before him and just fucking off. If he was wondering if you wanted to talk to him or thought he was cool that definitely gave him his answer. So many things wrong with it.
We organized a family group ride a few years ago. The rules were made clear from the get go. One of the riders decided to pass in the same lane, in a turn, in the line the member in front of him was in the process of taking. Thankfully it ended without an accident. His response when questioned was, he wanted to ride his own ride. That lead into lots of screaming and yelling that almost came to blows. The result? No one in the family talks to him let alone ride with him. What made things worse, he had years of riding experience under his belt when this happened. Over the years I have learned not to go on group rides and poker runs. This was supposed to be different. Clear simple rules were talked about. Everyone understood, so we thought. I could go on and on. I'm cool with someone riding their own ride as long as everyone is ok with that. This wasn't the case and he should have spoke up when the rules were explained or not gone. In the case of the video I agree 100% with the guy that put it up. It's bad enough when a car does that let alone a fellow rider. All too many in the comments didn't see much wrong with it. Wow!
@@MotoTweak It happens. Fortunately the example in this video doesn't happen very often, at least to me. It is accepted practice by all too many that participate in what I would call disorganized group rides, poker runs, and riding popular twisting roads that are overcrowded with cars and bikes alike, honing their skills or racing each other. In that case, to each their own and it's assumed by most that participate, the risks are known. That said, I feel sorry for new riders that haven't yet realized or come to terms with the risks. I was one of those riders many years ago. It didn't take me long to realize the risk and avoid all of it so I thought. That's what brought me to tell you about my family ride. You just can never know or can guarantee what someone will do. Ride safe.
Well I watched it and I seriously thought you meant don't do what I did 😂, over react when caught sunday cruising in the outside lane, only then twist the throttle in an angry response hahaha
You stated you didn’t know he was there. Why would you shift you lane at a light? Why would you shift your lane without looking in mirror? Total disrespect, I agree, I would never do that. I don’t rely on other people having respect. Not much exists today. I tend to lean towards looking out for myself by anticipating a##holes doing just that.
So, you check your mirrors whenever you move anywhere within your own lane? What's the line here? Do you check your mirrors if you're moving over a foot? How about 6"? You check your mirror every time you move even the slightest amount in your own lane? Because, no, you don't.
@@MrPhins I always check my mirrors even when moving in my own lane, left or right lane and moving over to avoid something like a pothole. Or just moving over ahead of my turn. I even take a quick look back just to be sure. I always ride prepared for some idiot to do something stupid like this. I was slowing for traffic in the right lane once, running in the number one position and had a cager come up on my right half on the gravel shoulder and half in my lane. Had I moved to the number three position in my lane the idiot would have rear-ended me. The entire time in my mirror I watched the idiot move over and come up alongside me. So yeah you watch your mirrors even when moving in your own lane.
My way of showing him hey we are Not Bros is to stop 2-3 bike lengths behind him. It's says we are not bros ef u. Yes that situation has happen to me. Reaction of speeding off in emotional state can be hazardous to one's health. I also have a pause rule of not being first one into intersection from stop light if possible. I almost got blown out of a intersection from a car running stop light. Its not intended disrespect it is hey we are bros and I am always careful of that.
I believe that you are justified on feelings lol Ike it was a big disrespect, slightly dangerous, and unwarranted. The problem is that guy is most likely clueless to his offense. It happens every now and again on my daily commute through La/Oc county. I definitely ignore it when happens on the frwy. On the other hand I’m guilty of excessive speed at times so I find it hard to get angry about it.
Had it happen to me in California. On a four lane road with very little traffic, a state trooper went by me at about 10 mph faster in my lane. Running east in the early morning and fighting to see with the morning sun. I never saw him coming.
I agree 100%! I don't even like people doing that in a group ride! Unless they are aware, that I'm aware that the right lane is his. And we're riding together! I've seen so many accidents in group rides from that very thing! I personally don't like riding in big groups anyway! It brings out foolishness in people who think they need to look cool, or impress those around him! If I'm in a group ride I'd prefer we all have a good way of communicating. Whether it's by a comms system or by hand signals! Doesn't matter as long as we can talk to each other!
He’s your typical pirate bro. Dumpy dadbod, showing off his flappy, pasty bingo arms fluttering in the wind, so Joe Cool he’s gotta smoke a cigarette at the stoplight, this dude is one massive trope. Just see him for the joke he is, have a laugh about him as I do (I’ll do it next to him too, IDC), and roll on with your ride man. 🤘
Major problem with motorcyclists is, they don't follow the law. Rolling through a stop sign is not stopping. Right turn into the fast lane is illegal. That's a good way to get hit. You passed almost every car on the street means you were speeding. These are the kind of things that will get you in an accident.
I’m a nice guy 98% of the time to most people. With that being said I would have rolled up and asked WTF? I didn’t know how much I vaulted my life till I was almost hit the first time on a bike. Now I let people know if they are a Jackhole. That’s that 2% that comes out.
The guy was looking for a problem. If you show someone your upset, it validates them, and gives them pleasure. Men who act with their egos are simple minded and are sad. Being tough isn't about puffing your chest out, it's about not letting others get you all bent out of shape. only weak men lead with their egos and wanna fight
The other rider was out of line. That being said a better lane position reduces the chances of that happening. In the left most lane ride to the right of center, in the right most lane ride to the left of center and only use the center lane(s) to get to the right most or left most lanes.
Very troubling and luckily you didn’t hit him. Like you said, he came from nowhere very quickly. Always check your mirrors and your blind spots for crazy riders. Be safe and thank you for sharing:)
Not saying undertaking is right, but if you ride in the outside lane when the road is clear, it's not helping! If you were in the inside lane the other rider could've passed you on the correct side with no problem.
So technically it was lane splitting right? I wouldn't do it. Also I ride respectfully, but I wouldn't be surprised if people in cages thought the same of me if I were to go between two vehicals.
@@nickv3085 huh? Other than you being on a bike it's identical. Some asshole stranger unexpectedly comes ripping up on a bike to your right. You're saying if you're in a car, where there's LESS free space, that's ok. But if you're on a bike too, where there's way more room, it's disrespectful of him? Ok hypocrite.
Harley riders: 1/3 don't know how to ride. 1/3 know how to ride but are shitheads. 1/3 are completely normal people and ride safe. Still 2/3 of Harley riders here in Florida are annoying in one way or another. Either slow, fast or a criminal.
I live in a country where it is left-side driving. And yes in dual or triple lane there are people who camp on the inside lane ( that would be the right lane)........despite the rule " Keep left except while overtaking) The bagger should not have passed in the same lane or that close But maybe he is incensed that the blogger is in the left (fast) lane. Usually I sound my Fiamm horns when I overtake a sketchy driver. Trinidad & Tobago. West Indies.
I hate that behavior too. The first thing you said is mostly why i.e. you didn't even know he was there. We expect to own the lane and the three lane positions within the lane... I once had a guy trying to ride up on me like that. I kept running aggressive blocking maneuvers until he got the point. My guess is he thought he was being kuhl and attempting to ride goose which I almost never do, even with people I know... No, you were not being a whiny baby at all. I would have pulled off exactly as you did while commanding the middle of the lane. Be safe.
When I come to a stop I try to stay to the wright side of the lane because of on common , he would have pulled up on the left side, but you're wright , he should have given u your space and stopped behind on the wright side
Enjoy the ride, whats your problem ? shake it off. . And by the way did you noticed you did a rolling stop at that stop sign... Dont do that,,,One day you will be sorry.
I don't know what state you're in I'm thinking you're in southeast somewhere but down here you have to ride in a right-hand Lane unless you're going to pass somebody
Happen to me a few times. Asshats that don't know common courtesy. I let it bother me for 2 seconds and then I enjoy my ride. Chances are i will never see them again. Not worth the time. I respect other peoples lane and space.
Regardless dude pass you just before stop line but you were on wrong position line , you should be on a right side - a blocking position , also when you driving , The dude that also smoke while driving is stereotype kind of individual , tons of those on a road, having problem with personality - identity ! Stay safe.
As we know there are a lot of douche bags out there, you just were the lucky winner on this day. What would have set me off even more was the uninvited cigarette crowded in and up my nose.
I'm new to riding. Unless I'm riding with my buddies, this is a no go? Some etiquette I'm not familiar with. I feel like this wouldn't have bothered me, depends on the situation I think.
If it wouldn’t have bothered you then you’re not aware of how dangerous it is. Do you ever decide to change where you ride in a lane? Of course you do! Easily could have collided since he never saw him coming, as he says later in the video
@@toddrosenthal7218 Good point my friend. Good to know this as I keep on learning! I see now I would never do that to someone. Question tho, I have been at a red light before on the left side of my lane and a fellow biker rolled up right next to me on the right side of the same lane. Is this still no bueno? or stopped at a red light this is ok
That guy is a moron, you stay back and respect the other rider. If you want to pass a rider do it in the other lane. Also I can not condone launching past the guy, he was an unsafe rider, best to let him go and stay away from him. If you want to pull up next to a rider to talk get their attention do it safely when they are stopped. Never a good idea to fly up on someone.
If it bugged you say something to him not on youtube. Don’t show how mad you are by driving fast after that is not smart. I see yer point but, get in the right lane. He was probably pissed you were in the left going slow so he had to pass you on the right. Both are childish moves and anger on both parts was dangerous. He treated you like a slow car and you like you made me mad now watch how fast i am. Who gives a fuck leave the ego at home and be glad your out having the wind in yer face. Thank you goodnight St Louis.
In this case, you caused the problem. The left lane is not for cruising. It is for passing. It is illegal in most states to pass while in the right hand lane. Get out of the left lane when the right lane is clear.
I think he assumed that all bikers are brothers. I don't think you saw him till he was next to you. He might have assumed you saw him, which you really should have. It still doesn't give him any right to share your lane. He should have treated your space as if you were a car. I'm surprised he didn't try to keep up with you from the light. Maybe your not communicating while stopped was all he needed to realize he wasn't welcome!
Yeah that assumption is what will get us in trouble. Unfortunately the stock mirrors on the Lowrider S are set real narrow and its impossible to see behind you without moving my arm out the way. My Fatboy didnt have that problem though.
@@v-twinadventures2729 Try your hardest to get something where you can see! It's idiots you need to watch out for because they aren't watching for you!!!
@@v-twinadventures2729 I have a ‘22 Lowrider S and same issue. Noticed it immediately at the HD showroom when I first sat on it. The mirrors catch more of your forearms than anything, no matter how you have them adjusted. Tried to flip them underneath but they hit the tank on turns. Poor design by Harley. I did just the other day adjust the bars forward towards the fairing and that helped, plus made my arms more parallel and not getting the numbness in hands while riding long distance. Trying to avoid the 8-1/2” riser thing which costs a small fortune to have done by HD.
Sounds/looks like he snuck up on and surprised you. My opinion, that’s on you and it’s up to you to control how you react to it. Honestly, if someone surprises me like that it might piss me off as well but overall it didn’t look like a close call or dangerous. Personally I try to not pass in the same lane but, if want to make progress, I will. Also, if your not checking you rear view every few seconds, especially approaching a red light, you’ll be surprised a lot.
inherent aggression of so many motor cycle riders - - Hogging the "fast" lane, [Right in English countries, Left in the rest] - - - PURE attitude and NO consideration for others. Maybe YOU are / were wrong, so why always look for a fight "MY rights" bleh bleh bleh
So, you're hogging the passing lane and going slow. Then, you get butt hurt when a faster rider passes you on the right. Then, you throw a temper tantrum by speeding away from the light as fast as you can. Dude, grow up and get out of the left lane.
