Dont Buy a Mac Studio! - Why YOU Should Buy a MacBook Instead!

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Apple's M1 Max Mac Studio has a BIG problem which I get deep into in this video, and it's especially apparent when you compare it to the M1 Max 16" MacBook Pro..
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@MaxTechOfficial 2 года назад

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@vasiovasio 2 года назад

Max, if it is possible to give it inside is there any Real difference between 64GB and 128GB of ram?

@hockey1freak 2 года назад

But you are comparing 16inch MBP... to me the M1 Max Studio vs 14inch MBP is no contest as long as you have any monitors at home at all

@ValliantRenegade 2 года назад

I bought both... LOL. MBP 16" M1 Pro & Mac Studio M1 Ultra

@greenmedic88 2 года назад

So, the only advantage of the more efficient thermals for the housing and cooler is... lower temps. Seems like something that could be changed in firmware updates, but that's really something that would have been done out of the starting gates if they wanted to move more units. The Studio is for Mac Mini users who need the extra processing power, and don't want to pay more for a MBP to use in clamshell mode.

@CristiCroicu 2 года назад

I am Telling you guys, and I told you on another video. The Mac studio was not supposed to happen. It only happened because apple was not able to run the M1 ultra cool and quiet enough in the studio display. The studio display was actually supposed to be the 27 inch iMac, this is why it is so thick and has so many vents, and also this is why it is so expensive. I think the initial plan was to have the normal 27 inch iMac with M1 pro and maybe M1 max… and then, a pro version with the M1 ultra. And when they realized that they were not able too cool it down enough (the M1 ultra) they came out with the Mac studio I am also 99% sure that the Mac studio was supposed to be the Mac Pro, where they would have used the M1 ultra and the 4 M1 max chips “glued” together, probably called, m1 ultra duo 😂 There is absolutely no reason having a display with 2 fans in it cooling an A13 Bionic Also there is no reason having a system with a cooler able to cool the system at idle speeds of the fans under heavy load… it clearly shows that this system was designed initially to cool down a much more powerful chip

@nickjacobsss 2 года назад

If you dont NEED to be portable the choice seems pretty easy to me. Base model studio with education/mil pricing is ~$1799, while the equivalent macbook pro is nearly $3000. You can use that extra money to build a super nice desk setup

@astronaute 2 года назад

you still need to buy a screen, keyboard and a mouse.

@AJ_Reynolds 2 года назад

@@astronaute you might already have those

@martinsurovy427 2 года назад

@@AJ_Reynolds Plus if you are demanding customer regarding keyboard and mouse, you would buy external anyway. Those on mac are not bad, but mechanical is still mechanical one.

@eduard6450 2 года назад

@@astronaute you can get those for way less than 1300$

@ChrispyArt 2 года назад

Eben if you have an external display as most professionals do. You get an extra screen for documents, tools, or hdr viewing with great colors. It’s an amazing monitor.

@shukhor3010 2 года назад

Battery damage is a real thing if you kept the MBP plugin all the time. I’m using MBP clamp shell mode for a while and just change my battery. It is not advisable to keep laptop plugin 24/7 I’m tire of maintaining the battery. MBP 14 and MS is 1k diff is a lot not a little bit. Having nice but small screen is counter productive.

@cleantones 2 года назад

I have a Mac Studio M1 Max 64GB 32 Core 2TB on order till June. I am replacing a 2015 5k iMac an/or 2018 13" MacBook i7. So I haven't had M1 yet. I was waiting for a 5k iMac refresh but that didn't come. So I decided to go in with the Studio. While I'm waiting and researching I decided to consider a laptop. This video probably sealed it for me. I just ordered a refurb 16" 32 Core 32BG 1TB. I think it will meet and exceed my needs for a while. This way I guess it can replace both of my current devices. The iMac was getting long in the tooth. Unfortunately neither machine will probably have much resell for me right now. Maybe will jump on the next gen Studio. Thanks for all of your insight and testing! Great content.

@jpopfansjpopfans9293 2 года назад

do not telegram to this "text me on telegram" person, he is a scam. RU-vid need to fix this scam.

@chepo1956 2 года назад

Not knocking on Max, just to be clear, and I'm a subscriber to this channel because of their know-how. But in the end, I feel you can never win with so many opinions. I pre-ordered a Max Studio base model and bumped it up to 64gb of ram and 1tb storage for $2599.00. I'm sticking with my choice and don't care to whatever anyone says. Furthermore, I'm currently using a mid-2014 MBP (Intel) plugged in to the wall since the battery has died, but it's still working. As soon as the new one ships, I'm repairing the laptop and holding it for backup. Think about it, my current machine is going on for almost 9 years. So just imagine the new machine that has good ventilation and no battery swelling to worry about, in addition to that I've always used all my MBP's closed on a stand with an external monitor, keyboard and mouse. How long do you think the Max will last. I'm not knocking on RU-vidrs just in case, but I'll stick with my gut feeling on this one. I only use Lightroom and Photoshop, so this is way more than I'll ever need and besides, I like the way it looks.

@MrSmithUK 2 года назад

Tried the laptop solution and it’s a mess of cables and dongles, poring out of both sides. Having all your ports on one side/ face, is so much more neat & tidy. Not to mention it’s more convenient in a studio. The performance issue is just Negligible. For 99% of us, anything with an M1, is WAY faster than what we are using and we don’t care about a few paltry percent.

@jpopfansjpopfans9293 2 года назад

do not telegram to this "text me on telegram" person, he is a scam. .

@isaac_da_pirate7890 2 года назад

I’m getting the studio to replace my old mini that is used as a server and also to take some of the workload from my 2015 MacBook Pro 15”, a MacBook doesn’t make sense since I’ll never move it and all the ports are a big deal, also there are cases that the usb hubs you get can have to much high demand items plugged and not able to handle it, I’ve had this issue at work

@PLANETWATERMELON 2 года назад

I think if you don’t need portability and want more ports then you probably want the Studio. So simple.

@nat8518 2 года назад

I would love to see an m1's buyer guide for apple lineup and if you should wait for the next update

@ObitusJoe 2 года назад

Personally I am more of a desktop person. I already have monitors/keyboards/web cam/speakers. Why pay $1100 more for stuff I won't be using? Nice to know for those that really need a laptop that they are only sacrificing money and not performance though. Good comparison.

@eddysel10 2 года назад

Excellent research and video. This is the reason why I have been saying in a previous video posted by you, that I don't feel the need to buy the Mac Studio. I do have a 2021 16 inch MBP and don't see the added value to buy the Mac Studio. If I decide to buy the Mac Studio one day, it will be the Ultra version or M2 Ultra (in the future).

@jabulaniharvey 2 года назад

for sustained heavy duty use...i would still take the mac studio...cooler cpu and gpu is a better deal than the laptop

@N495illithian 2 года назад

I think the price premium for the MacBook Pro makes a lot of sense, you can use the MacBook exactly like a desktop when desired with equivalent power, and then have the additional flexibility of using it on the go or at least in other parts of the home besides the desk. However, if you already a desk setup and are ok with a desk-exclusive machine, saving >1000$ is pretty significant. Then again, the vast majority of buyers have no need to get the M1 Max over the M1 Pro and a 14" M1 Pro price matches the Studio but gives an order of magnitude more flexibility. I have to agree that most buyers would be much better served with an M1 Pro MacBook instead of the Studio.

@cyanos3 2 года назад

Hmm very interesting and informative, thank you! Hoping here that one day Apple will adjust the hardware tuning for the Mac Studio to realize better performance.

@matthogan4905 2 года назад

I thought about selling my 27" 2017 iMac and 16" 2019 MacBook Pro, then getting the M1 Max Macbook + monitor...but ended up selling the 2017 iMac and getting the Studio with M1 Max + Studio Display, and keeping my 2019 MBP. It really came down to wanting the Studio Display and not wanting to drop huge $$$ for the MBP M1 Max + display. I love the 5k retina display on my iMac and wasn't finding any decent alternatives.

@spinthma 2 года назад

Read many comments, I think the main point here is, do not expect an increased desktop performance with the mac studios compared to the macbooks, maybe the mac pro will have the unlimited option.

@AlexSwan 2 года назад

Excellent info.

@zackery72 2 года назад

I got a maxed out 14" pro because the studio display didn't have mini led and I was going to get the Max version of the studio anyways

@jonathanwhiteside6092 2 года назад

Very interesting take on performance, good work :)

@jazzsoft 2 года назад

Is that a Japanese singer Mako Ishino who was popular back in 1970's?

@ericmindyc 2 года назад

Thanks! This is helpful!

@dhruvr5134 2 года назад

both are unstoppable, but too expensive....

@donavanboykin9489 2 года назад

Preach

@graysongerni 2 года назад

Would a windows based machine last as long? That’s my exchange I’m thinking of now.

@brbhave2p00p4 2 года назад

Premium things got to have a premium price

@simpromovie 2 года назад

See it the same way as Max. The MacBook Pro is the better deal and an 27" M1 iMac would also be a much better deal if the brought it at least in addition to Mac Studio. The same argument goes for the Studio Display. If they put a M1 chip instead of this A13 chip inside this Display and calling it iMac this would also be a much better deal...So sad....

@Technocrat. 2 года назад

I think the is is treating Mac studio as a laptop, Apple needs to modify the desktop version.

@unknownKnownunknowns 2 года назад

Great ideas, thank you. Do you mind pls clarifying the Laptop and spec you are suggesting we could get other than the base M1 studio? I see your point on portability, and it's essentially a desktop replacement when hooked up to a larger display at home

@juddrizzo 10 месяцев назад

11/29/2023 Hello there!,… Best Mac mini for a music production???? Wait for M3????

@blade1535 2 года назад

You don’t think apple will tweak these machines in the next year in software to run a bit harder due to better cooling. I think they will. Software hasn’t caught up to hardware yet.

@kjvisual7 2 года назад

Good to know.

@peterscott2662 2 года назад

Feels like click bait. If you want a desktop, paying ~$1000 more for an equivalent laptop makes no sense at all. $1000 is NOT a "little bit more".

@Markus-hg6ex 2 года назад

Especially taken the absolut price in context ($2000) - so it will be 50% more , which is quite a lot of money in this context.

@SFAutor 2 года назад

No, I don't want a MacBook Pro but a Desktop Mac. My Mac Studio arrives on Monday and then I better skip all these "Buy" and "Do not buy" videos for the next couple of months and just enjoy my new Mac. 🥰

@АлександрЮсипов-ф7у 2 года назад

What can you say about the performance and was it possible to compare with another macbook or maybe iMac?

@SFAutor 2 года назад

@@АлександрЮсипов-ф7у Since I only make such a purchase every five to eight years, I also only have older Macs for comparison. The Mac Studio replaced my Mac Pro (6-core) from 2013 (Trash Can). I loved the machine and it served me reliably for 9 years. The Mac Studio, however, beats it in every way. I use it for 3D rendering, photo editing, video and audio production. It's so quiet even at maximum load that I don't hear any fans. For me, it's a fantastic machine and my Mac for years to come.

@-xnnybimb-9398 Год назад

@@SFAutorf I may ask, which Mac Studio did you buy? M1 Max or Ultra?

@SFAutor Год назад

@@-xnnybimb-9398 Sure. I have ordered the M1 Max with 64 GB of Memory and 1TB SSD. It's now over a year old still lightning fast for anything I do, like video (Final Cut), rendering (Blender, now with Apple Silicon support) , graphic design (Pixelmator Pro, Affinity Suite) or music composition (Logic Pro). I am very happy with my machine and it will last many more years before I even need to think about replacing it.

@ianhailey 2 года назад

I pondered this for ages but ultimately decided to get an Air and a studio MAX instead of a 14” Pro MAX as it’s only slight more expensive.

@speedzero7478 2 года назад

I did the same thing! Mobility of the Air for emails and Zoom conferences, Studio for the heavy lifting.

@stuartallenphotos 2 года назад

That’s a much better idea.

@MegaChriz 2 года назад

And the studio has more ports too. And the MacBook Air is lighter than the 14" Pro.

@franklinlucaslima 2 года назад

Genius!!

@SaranKRS 2 года назад

No, the deal breaker for me is the ports. Instead I’ll get the base model studio on education pricing. I already have a display, Magic Mouse and keyboard. So this will save more for me instead of buying the MacBook.

@vlcheish 2 года назад

ports are nice

@techsteveo7913 2 года назад

This is what I'm doing as well. I'll add a 4TB external SSD. The same configured MacBook Pro is $1000 more!

@jamesnyers1721 2 года назад

@@vlcheish Ports are also over rated sometimes. Small dongle and plug everything into that. When you sit at your desk with your laptop, just plug that 1 thing into the laptop. Done. Pls don't bash on dongles, just a myth. The desktop machine itself could be a big clunky dongle itself..

@vlcheish 2 года назад

@@jamesnyers1721 How is having an another thunderbolt port, two USB -A and two USB -C and a 10g Ethernet port an over rated thing? I have yet to meet anyone who complained about having enough ports on a Apple computer as oppose to buying a third party dongle.

@khangvinh4656 2 года назад

@@vlcheish I don’t think he meant it as a negative though. Having more features is always great but how much does that extra functions really does for you matter. If you have a lot of devices and just like to plug everything in, then go for it, but buying a portable workstation for the same price as a desktop(no screen included) with the same performance just make way more sense, economically.

@Saturax 2 года назад

Would love to see a Studio 24 vs 32 comparison. Do you guys think they perform the same as your previous video on MBP 24 vs 32? If so I'll go for the 24 core Studio (already have keyboard, pad and dual screen at home). Thanks for you answer

@ScottDeSalvo 2 года назад

The consensus is that it doesn’t make sense to get the 32 core. Performance is not substantially different.

@revi1796 2 года назад

@@ScottDeSalvo I've heard this as well ^

@aayuzsth 2 года назад

You spoke my heart out man. I have been desperate for this comparison with mac book pro 16 on those gpu.

@gmdrandom6287 2 года назад

@@ScottDeSalvo well on the MacBooks I think the difference was only small because of thermal limitations

@ScottDeSalvo 2 года назад

@@gmdrandom6287 But those are the same thermal limitations the studio has which the testing here shows. They are getting the same test scores as the laptops because they are being thermal throttled by software. Even though they don’t need to be. They could run 30 or 40° hotter than they do with an increase in performance. In other words, those huge coolers on the studios aren’t being put to the test.

@thesobercoder 2 года назад

As much as I love Max and Vadim and value their opinion, I personally ordered an M1 Max 32c 32GB 2TB Studio and it saved me over 100K Indian Rupee compared to the MBP of the same spec, and so I definitely don't agree that the Studio is not a good deal if you already have monitor and peripherals like me. Also, I think the clockspeed issue should get fixed with an update.

@davidpurple3698 2 года назад

Agree

@Vilmir 2 года назад

I doubt, like Max, that Apple will increase the clockspeed on the Studio for marketing purposes. In Europe, you can get a pretty good deal on the portable M1 Pros, closing a lot the gap with the Studio, making the Studio a quite uninteresting deal as you lose mobility with no real gain.

@SeanTube2099 2 года назад

They are right though, it only saved you money because you already had a display and keyboard.

@davidpurple3698 2 года назад

@@Vilmir Not all will need the mobility

@thesobercoder 2 года назад

@@Vilmir Very opposite landscape here in India. Even with the slow clock speed the Studio is a much better deal as most Indians already own a PC and likely peripherals.

@ScottDeSalvo 2 года назад

The Studio is the only way to get the Ultra chip and the cheapest way to get the Max chip. I agree that the design is ugly and primarily because the cooling solution is ridiculously space consuming and it isn’t being used. They probably could have used the original Mac mini cooling solution if they keep their chips clocked so low. I have been using an M1 Mac mini with eight gigs of RAM. Multitasking is not as good as on my 32 GB three-year old iMac with a core I five. I ordered a base model Studio with 1 TB HD. When I have eight or 12 different apps running and three dozen documents open throughout various programs, I want instant performance, not hiccups. As I get older, portability is a secondary concern. Large screen real estate is important for my work and becomes increasingly important for me as my vision gets worse with age. Frankly, if they made a 16 inch Mac air for 1600 or 1700 bucks, I would buy that for the mundane things I do on a mobile display.

@bachcontra3606 2 года назад

Interesting. The other way around here, as I get older. Large (separate) screens are less readable to me than laptops. And of course, the MacBook Pro has that wonderful Mini-LED with ProMotion.

@markdalbey 2 года назад

I have never heard the words "bang for the buck" applied to Apple. I can give you a reason to buy a Studio over a Mac Book. I am 60. Though far from blind my eyes are not as good as they were when I was 30. I prefer a 27" screen.

@MH01-01 2 года назад

If you plug your laptop into a monitor and work on a desk, the MBP is very poor value compared to a Studio. Spec for spec , studio is cheaper has better io and for most people who work in a study with a hub/monitor(s). The MBP spec’d out only really makes sense to individuals who work on the road . Most people I know who bought a laptop …. Used it a handful of times while not at home. One major factor , if you plan to drop $$$ a desktop will be more reliable and outlive a laptop , laptops all die from heat eventually, and have more components they can fail.

@DMSparky 2 года назад

The mac studio would be way more compelling if the studio display was actually a good value. Studio display okay and looks well build but they are basically just ripping off their own customers.

@AIandVisuals 2 года назад

I thought the M1 Max on the Mac Studio would perform better. But what this actually boils down to is that for an additional $500 or so you can get a desktop system with an M1 Max (the Mac studio) and a 27" gorgeous screen, compared to the 16" inch Macbook Pro. That is, you choose: either you want something to take with you with a much smaller 16" screen (a Macbook) or a desktop system with a great 27" inch screen.

@lufknuht5960 Год назад

If you don't need to carry it around, methinks better to get a Mac Desktop, because the Macbook has a battery that goes bad &swells after about 5 years.

@nexttvc 2 года назад

Not agreed with you that if someone wants to have Desktop why they should go for laptop?

@jeebtheboss 2 года назад

Because you can use the laptop like if it’s a Desktop machine. Just use a bigger screen on the side that you might have already at home, a separated keyboard and mouse, and that’s it, you have a desktop machine for a cheaper price

@Puto73 2 года назад

Stick w the Mac studio for obvious reasons

@cunnyman 2 года назад

I would generally agree with you but mac desktops give next to no advantage over laptops. You don’t get user upgradability, not many more ports, both use the same base processor and so on. Next to no difference compared to Windows desktop vs laptop.

@cxk007 2 года назад

the laptop could be used as desktop and taken out from time to time when needed. But again it's really personal option

@TheKayakCrew 2 года назад

The laptop is about $1,000 more. If you are going to use the laptop with its keyboard and screen all the time then agree it’s the best option, but I’m sure most people would want to connect to a monitor with a larger screen and separate keyboard

@srwx 2 года назад

What a surprise. You get the same performance when buying the same SOC. Who would choose a desktop over a laptop to gain a (supposed) performance improvement of a few percent!? You choose the Studio because you want a desktop. It's as simple as that. What does the display of the MBP do for me sitting in clamshell mode all the time? Same for the keyboard and trackpad. What I "gain" is worrying about the damage I do to the battery having it constantly plugged in. I'd much rather have a stationary desktop and a nice M1 MBA for on the go. Does everyone have the same preference and needs as I do? Of course not. For many (I guess even most) an MBP is probably the better choice. But certainly not because of any minuscule performance difference.

@HaikuOezu 2 года назад

Nah. I need a desktop. Even if I was willing to get a MBP and Clamshell it the Mac Studio I got is still 1200€ cheaper than the equivalently specced MBP 16 inch and almost 1000€ cheaper than the equivalent 14 inch MBP. I need a big display and as nice as the MBP's display is it's definitely not enough. Also I tried clamshelling the MBA and the temps were absolutely trash - I don't want a laptop sitting on my desk all the time I/O is also much better, I look forward to those ports on the front and not depending on my USB-C hub for USB-A peripherals.

@wyattliu3637 2 года назад

Better choice. Buying the Mac studio as it is 1000 dollar cheaper for the same price then use the rest get a portable laptop that could be windows (lightweight) or used/base model MacBook air

@DrDuu 2 года назад

That is not a good deal in Germany. You have to pay 1000€ more for the 14“ MacbookPro instead of Mac Studio….

@KarelKubela 2 года назад

This ith same aproache as me. I thought that I will buy MBPro 16 Max plus Studio Display, but I realised, that 95% of my work I do in the office on my 7 years old iMac27 and I also have the MBPro 13 M1. So I decided to order the Mac Studio Max with 64 GB of RAM and 4 TB SSD. and the rest 5% of my workfliw I will do on the small MBPro 13 M1.

@MatrixRoland 2 года назад

I would expect Apple to release an update that will optimize performance more.

@funhorizon5494 2 года назад

i agree, they will release an update sooner or later which will improve the performance

@iamfrankstallone 2 года назад

Don't you find this comment odd though? When they presented the new Ultra chip they said software publishers would not need to make any chagnes to take advantage of the power.

@Reactor10k 2 года назад

@@iamfrankstallone They don't. If there is performance to be unlocked, that'll be done by Apple, not developers.

@iamfrankstallone 2 года назад

@@Reactor10k Huge gaffe on their end if that's true. They knew reviewers were going to buy these units and push them hard in benchmarks for reviews.

@bryansproles2879 2 года назад

Desktop all the way for me. If I need mobility with a larger screen than my iPhone, I'll bring my iPad Pro. Currently saving up for the Base model Studio with 64 gig memory upgrade (planning to use more VMs/virtualization.)

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@tubedude92 2 года назад

same here..will get the base model studio with 64 gig as soon as fusion fully supports apple silicon

@vancekang 2 года назад

U just missed the whole point the video was making

@jpopfansjpopfans9293 2 года назад

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@KrzysztofBurak 2 года назад

If Mac studio (M1 max) is only option - the question is 24 vs 32 GPU cores? Usage: FCPX, motion, photoshop, little 3D. No one has compared this model’s! Please help me to choose. ❤️

@MegaChriz 2 года назад

I think I will go for the 32 GPU cores version - only because of my 3D modeling ambition. I expect the 32 GPU cores model to perform 20-30% better than the 24 GPU core version in Blender and I find that worth enough the extra 230 euro. I thought for a moment if the Ultra would be an option for me, but that would add another 2000 euro to the price which I think would be a bit too crazy since 3D is only a hobby for me. If you are looking for a comparison between the two: I saw in other videos that the Mac Studio with 24 GPU cores performs about the same as the 14 inch MacBook Pro with 24 GPU cores (in some tests the 14 inch performed slightly better, in others the Studio did slightly better). So I expect that the Studio with 32 GPU cores would perform about the same as the 14 inch MacBook Pro with 32 GPU cores. There should be videos out there that are comparing the 24 core GPU with 32 core GPU in the 14 inch MacBook Pro.

@DJSelphi 2 года назад

Sounds like you’re just reaching for content at this point…the MBP vs the MS are for different users (mobile vs desktop) not everybody needs to carry around a laptop to do their work. Just like other people are saying here, they save more buying the Studio and using the saved $$ for peripherals

@asdf51501 2 года назад

I ordered a M1 Ultra Mac Studio, but not because I need one. I wanted a powerful Mac desktop, and I really like the form factor, and it’ll last us years. Of course, it doesn’t hurt that I got 25% + an extra $500 off… I’m really looking forward to using it. 😃👍🏻

@havok3344 2 года назад

I wonder if we will see a firmware update that bumps the clock speeds and adds a PC-style control panel with “quiet”, “balanced”, and “power” modes.

@youngjacuzzi3676 2 года назад

It kinda does all that in the background and changes based on use.

@prabhsaini1 2 года назад

thats the point of the efficiency core, intel does it to these days

@TheKayakCrew 2 года назад

If I got a Macbook pro then I'd still need to buy a 27 inch - 34 inch monitor as well because about 85%-90% of my work would be at my workstation at home and I would not spend hours on end perched over a 16 inch Macbook screen at home, as good a display as it is. I understand what you are saying - that the Studio gets you no performance improvement while the Macbook gives you portability, and that is a factor worth considering when deciding what to buy. The Macbook is about £1,000 ($1300) more than the equivalent Mac Studio here in the UK. With either computer, I'd need to buy a monitor so the Macbook will still cost me a lot more. It therefore boils down to whether the significant extra cost justifies being able to use the Macbook away from home, viz, the portablity option. Probably not for me, since it would only amount to about 10-15% of my usage and I can always use my Windows laptop with iCloud for Windows installed for that.

@denisleblanc4506 2 года назад

I think the conclusion is somewhat off. First of all, if the two machines have the same performance and one does not run hot...which one has a better chance of running longer without problems? Secondly, laptops are loosing popularity to tablets. With universal control, you get real portability with the tablet and at home you have the larger screen of the Studio with a monitor. People already set up for a desktop won't consider the laptop. You can get a base Studio and a nice iPad with cellular making a better combination than a laptop. More connectivity when traveling (with cameras) you can use the iPad for zoom calls which will be as good as the laptop and it will still be cheaper than the laptop.

@ErfonElijah 2 года назад

Max or Vadim, come on my podcast The CultCast and talk about this with me!

@Zorastegard 2 года назад

U forget to say: Even not the 32" Pro Display XDR can compare with the MB16Pro MiniLED Display :)

@robeigner4390 2 года назад

Problem with your analysis is that I want a large display so I can actually read the text on the screen. I have a 13" MBA and it's tough. It doesn't matter if I have a 120Hz screen or not, I don't play games and videos are fine on my older iMac. When you talked about the MacBook Pro having three TB ports, which can be expanded using a TB dock (I have the OWC 4-port dock you're using), all you're getting is more connections not more TB channels. The Studio has four channels, although one goes to the display so it's actually the same but the display has three USB-C ports while the Studio has two USB-A/B(?) so you actually have enough USB ports for wired a keyboard, mouse, etc. The MBP will need docks and hubs to expand. The MBP also doesn't have a wired ethernet port, something I still use because gigabit ethernet is still faster than WiFi 6 and isn't compromised by walls, etc. Yes, it means I'm locked into a single place but that's the desk where my desktop resides. Having a 10GB means it's future proof, waiting for fiber internet to get above gigabit speed. I also like the Studio Mac because it can easily be opened, especially by Apple, to repair certain things while the MBPs are more difficult to get into and the battery is probably the first thing that will have problems. The Studio doesn't have batteries except for the UPS all my gear is attached to. Everyone has a different situation. I'm trying to take my MBA on travel, using my iPhone as a hotspot, but my simple iPad does most of the things I need when away from home. I'll stay with a desktop until Apple comes out with a 24" MBP Air. 😉 added: Went through costs. Studio Mac 10/24 32GB 2TB storage, std Studio Display, expensive wireless keyboard and mouse ($300 combined but keyboard has TouchID, which I mike on my MBA). total $4891 (ouch!) 14" MBP 10/24 2TB $3500, add $1600 Studio Display so I can read the screen, $5100. Not going to get an LG display if/when they ever come back but they are $1299 so save $300 and the MBP/LG display would cost $100 less than the Studio Mac/Display option. Not really sure I'd want to take a $3500 MBP through any TSA station so my only travel would be land based. I sure wouldn't want to trust any airline to not lose it if I checked my baggage.

@NotGarrettG 2 года назад

I HAVE a MacBook Pro M1 ! I Wrapped it and it’s beautiful and I know it will last forever. My 2 year old baby boy will Be able to use THIS laptop when he’s in middle school….. that’s insane…

@wilsonaala9395 2 года назад

i fail to understand why your titles always tell what shoiuld and should not be done instead of sticking with clean and informative titles. your content is always awesome guys, please don’t keep doing these titles, it ruins your content.

@jambononi 2 года назад

Because they probably see double the amount of views just by making the title seem more emotionally contentious. Which also makes buying dozens of Apple computers every few months a more profitable endeavour. And ultimately, despite the titles, their videos are still some of the best to watch if you want to buy an Apple thingy. So if it's a bit annoying then you might just have to accept it, because I think it's worth the mild irritation for a significant improvement in their metrics and business.

@wilsonaala9395 2 года назад

@@jambononi yeah, well done reiterating what i have said *clap*

@jambononi 2 года назад

@@wilsonaala9395 ??? Well no, because you think they should change their titles, whereas I'm making the point that they shouldn't because it would damage their business. And the mild annoyance isn't worth the loss in business because we're all still watching it anyway. So I literally made the opposite point to you.

@Adam-pg8gy 2 года назад

I can’t agree. For me a laptop will never replace a desktop though I suppose what your needs are. You’re not only losing ports but worst of all, youre subject to a battery- and if you’re gonna use a laptop as a desktop well then… you do you lol

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@cypherf0x 2 года назад

Needed a desktop not a laptop. I'm very happy with my M1 Ultra Studio. It does what I need it to. If I had needed a laptop I'd have bought one. People are really milking that content for views.

@DannyBlair_ 2 года назад

If cost is no concern, absolutely buy the MB Pro. But for everyone else, save the $1k and utilize the peripherals you already have. Not to mention if you ever need portability you can just pickup an M1 MacBook Air in a pinch for under $1k.

@tonejac 2 года назад

I wonder if apple will have a firmware update in the near future for the Mac Studios that let us bump up the performance to higher power consumption to drive higher clock speeds. It seems like there is a lot of unused potential in the Mac Studio with all the cooling capability.

@MindFloodMedia 2 года назад

They will not. They want you to buy the ultra.

@darnation8650 2 года назад

I think they will. The big lift was designing the rest of the package for Studio around the chipset and getting it to market. Probably hoped it wouldn't be a big deal out of the gate, but people are noticing, that's for sure. Seems like Apple does a good job of ironing out the initial quirks with new designs pretty well and quickly after release. The Max chip in the MacB was mostly good to go as is, minus this one issue which really won't affect most users. But for the ones it may affect, they sure do and should care about it.

@eurly93 2 года назад

Never gonna happen. Same way even though iPad Pro has an M1 chip they will never let it run Mac OS until people stop buying iPads altogether. Apple's product strategy is about making it easy for customers to pick a product. The difference between $2k Mac Studio and $3k Macbook pro is exactly the following: portability. That's it. This makes purchasing decision very easy if you already have a laptop, Mac Studio. If you don't, Macbook Pro. There's 1 very tangible difference and it doesn't need to be explained. You can't have a cheaper product outperform a more expensive one if you're a 'luxury' tech company, even if it makes logical sense to an tech minded person. The 99% of people buying Apple products have no clue what 'thermal throttling' is. All they know is that the more expensive one should be better, faster, have more cameras, etc. iPhone, iPad, its all the same. They always make it so there is only 1 or 2 differences between tiers of products, but it is ALWAYS a tangible difference that non tech people will be able to grasp. 3 camers > 2. Stainless Steel > Aluminum. Thinner Bezels > Thick bezels. Mini LED vs Regular LED. Noise cancelation vs no noise canceling etc.

@JohannesLabusch 2 года назад

@@darnation8650 There's a huge difference between "ironing out quirks" and dictating to customers what limitations they have to live with. If you're not brand new to Apple, you have fond memories of peripherals being rendered useless over night, options and connections deleted under the guise of "streamlining" and generally them not giving a hoot about what people want and need. "Here's the future, now live in it!"

@darnation8650 2 года назад

@@JohannesLabusch You have a valid point, but really has nothing to do with what my comment was about. Was just responding to what should be a fairly routine bit of firmware optimization sometime not long after units start shipping for the Studio line. I am both new and not new to Apple. A lot of my friends use Apple product exclusively. I always play around with what they have and stay up on Apples new releases. I am very familiar with all the gripes and issues with Apple. While i love their machines, the environment is just too limiting for my needs. I can very much see the allure for pure creatives though. I do a lot of real-time, high frequency trading, and i travel rather frequently. For the foreseeable future, x86 architecture is best for my needs, as well as the flexibility to build, modify, and repair my machines anywhere in the world with zero time delay. In many ways, Apple machines to me are objects of art. Art tends to be both arbitrary and finicky. Apple does what Apple does and if you want to buy into their techno-art, then you must be prepared to pay a premium for the sometimes weird and arbitrary choices they make and limit their users to.

@CC-iq2pe 2 года назад

This information suggests that if someone knew how to ramp up the clock speeds on die then the system would smoke everything even more.

@argekant 2 года назад

I wonder what percentage of all Studios sold thus far have been for the purpose of making RU-vid benchmark videos :0

@sunitakalbhor5485 2 года назад

I still love my 6 grand 3090 pc :( JK

@khushigaur9067 2 года назад

Which one should I buy if I also want studio display/other keyboard and mouse. And doesn't care about portability.

@Subjective_JoshNelson Год назад

Max, I'm not clear on what MacBook configuration you are comparing to the Studio? Did I miss this? Thanks in providing the exact config - screen size, M1 or M2, RAM GBs and confirm that the MBP can run two external monitors.

@andrewgrant788 2 года назад

For the approximately $1000 difference in cost between a Mac Studio and an equivalent MBP, I could buy an M1 MBA and have a second machine as a backup. Alternatively I could buy an iPad Pro though the Magic Keyboard does drive the cost up.

@isnull_or_empty 2 года назад

Mac Studio + M1 MacBook Air is my current setup. The ultimate combo imo.

@regis_red 2 года назад

I had a MBP 17in for ten years and I learned something: I’m definitely not a laptop guy.

@sh1maru Год назад

But what about fan noise? Is studio noticeably quieter than a macbook under real life loads?

@garoosh8172 2 года назад

Two computers with the same exact specs have the same performance, who would think that!? 🤡

@auchich.3218 2 года назад

Different cooling tho. And the studio isn‘t supposed to be power efficient to save battery life, so you would think there would be a performance increase

@cactustweeter2890 2 года назад

Max I am a long time subscriber. I really appreciate your content. Your recommendation is assuming people will be satisfied with a smaller display. I think you should have pointed out that caveat for your recommendation. If the person making the need something larger than a 16 inch display they better go with a Mac Studio.

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@brucekennedy5274 2 года назад

Next week : “Don’t buy the MacBook Pro - get the Mac Studio” 🙄

@AVClarke 2 года назад

Bottom line, a laptop simply isn't going to have the same longevity as a desktop computer.

@stancartmankenny 2 года назад

The performance is the same - so buy the one that is much more expensive, has fewer ports, and louder fan noise?!?! the only reason to go that route is if you must have that portability. The "better" screen is irrelevant if it's only 16 inches.

@pbrigham 2 года назад

What about 10GB? Another 300 US dollars dongle?

@msvc23 2 года назад

I do music production and Mac Studio would be perfect for me since my tasks are purely CPU dependent. Talking just about de Ultra Version

@robertmarsh1338 2 года назад

Apple must have the Mac Studio chassis, cooler and power supply ready for production line proofing when the chips start drawing more power. M1 Max could easily be in the Mac Mini chassis.

@garydmercer 2 года назад

I already own a top quality Ben Q photo editing monitor that is wonderful. Some of us don't want or like laptops---Hate working on a tiny screen. I'm a professional photographer, so even the M1 mac mini is more than powerful enough to edit my photographs etc. Even my old 2012 mac mini is sufficient for editing photos, it is just slower. There is a reason why Apple sells desktop computers without monitors! Some of us don't want or like laptops!

@hpaula1946 2 года назад

How about the longevity factor consideration in using a laptop as a permanently connected device? I did consider the 14” MacBook Pro as a desktop unit, but lifespan as a desktop unit scares me -- and there’s not much traveling going on these days, a main reason for my using a laptop.

@thelorax9622 2 года назад

So, you suggest I should spend over $2100 Australian extra over the base Mac Studio to get a 16" MBP with 512GB extra storage, but fewer ports? Nah. I had a 2009 13" MBP and I hardly took it anywhere. I will go with the Studio, I think.

@bobby350z 2 года назад

MBP would be used closed and I would need more ports and I would hate to have a dock so ordered the Max studio.

@balashanmugam4022 2 года назад

You could run Linux on it, but it's translation layer is not as efficient as Rosetta 2

@HiFiInsider 2 года назад

I have 16" MBP and Mac Studio Ultra. The perfect home and mobile setup.

@guidrissen 2 года назад

Best value for the money = macbook m1 pro 32gb ram

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@CTOLARSSON 2 года назад

Incredible insights. I did not expect those results. Amazing work guys

@TriStruggleBus 2 года назад

I’d still follow Alex Ziskind’s argument that if all you’re doing is using the Macbook in clamshell mode on your desk, get the studio. Regardless of how good the display is, it’s still going to be max 16 inches! And if you don’t need portability…

@nycsonic3738 2 года назад

Going for the base Mac Studio, need a big screen and ports.

@TheMrMarkW 2 года назад

Speccing the same spec with a Macbook Pro and Mac Studio, the studio is £800 cheaper for the same spec (M1 Max, 32Gb RAM, 1Tb SSD). As I have 3x 4K monitors for my Work PC, and an existing iMac 5K 2014 with external RAID storage, which I'm looking to directly replace, this is a no brainer for the mac studio for me as I can just dual head the existing displays I own.

@DigitalDre 2 года назад

I better save 1000€ and get the basic studio because for small tasks on the go, I will have my old laptop, but main editing will happen on my desk anyway

@thenakedtruth0205 2 года назад

I DO NOT NEED NOR WANT A MACBOOK. IT IS TOO SMALL FOR ME. FUCK APPLE.

@shotsi673 2 года назад

For those who don't want or need a laptop 3 words come to mind: context, connectivity and portability. The Max 1 chip is more than enough for creatives at a decent price if they already have a monitor and other essential peripherals. Which include audio interfaces etc. You never have to worry about batteries and using a laptop in clamshell mode still means you need to buy the connectivity. These are two separate products targeted to two separate audiences.

@CrockerYogesh109 2 года назад

for me, i will buy a ipad and mac studio so that for the portability, i can use my ipad and for power work, i can go for mac studio. 🥰

@macbitz 2 года назад

For me I'd still go for the Studio as I don't need (to pay the extra for) a portable device and I have a 27" monitor already.

@Diminish12 2 года назад

My MacBook M1 Pro Max 24core had to get sent out for screen replacement already. It hand horizontal lines all over the screen. Hope this isn't a problem that occurs again every so often. Hopefully it was a problem when they shipped it.

@CarGuy11 2 года назад

Wow this must of really bummed you out Max because I never see you this subdued in a video.

@jurrydevries4006 2 года назад

Hi thanks for another extensive clear test video. Like you i am surprised that the M1 MAX delivers exact same performance in the Mac Studio than in the MBP. Clearly they must have left the fine tuning untouched pother wise the Mac Studio would have performed better. However, I am not sure I follow you on the 3 potential explanations you gave. 1) Same chip performance regardless of chassis is what you mentioned. But that wouldn’t make sense because Apple does have a deliberate performance gap between the 14 inch and 16 inch M1 Max models (I recall your test in which the M1 Max 10/32 14 inch performed equal or worse to the M1 Max 10/24 core). 2) Higher performance on M1 would reduce the gap vis a vis the future M2: could be but if Apple would allow a difference between M1 Max in Studio vs MBP, then it is fair to assume they will allow similar performance difference between M2 chip in the MBP and Studio But perhaps there is a totally different explanation, one that is not so much focussed at performance management but more at price/positioning management. Developing new set of parameters for the M1 chip in the desktop chassis is a significant cost. By leaving the parameters as they are, all R&D spent on it will be spread over both models. Otherwise they have double the costs for developing the parameters and these costs must be recuperated. Which in turn would probably be a price increase of the Studio Base model which would disrupt there carefully build pricing structure within a model range but especially between two different lines. Or something that may sound silly but perhaps they just didn’t have time to develop and test new parameters and since they already delayed plenty of new hardware, delaying the new studio base model would basically have pulled the rug un der the most important element of the Peek Performance event in March. Just some food for thought, you guys put a lot of effort in these test and take the time to explain it and I watch each and every one of them with great interest.

@theReal_WKD 2 года назад

I love the comments. You always have these laptop's stans... The same guys who think we all enjoy working sitting at Starbucks and who would never buy or even try a mouse because they already have a trackpad. EDIT: I almost forgot their best argument: "bUt YoU sTiLl HaVe tO bUy A mOuSe A kEyBoArD aNd A mOnItOr"...