bought my used 21 trail boss with 45k. Engine let go and trashed every rotating bearing while i was pulling an empty trailer 4 hours from home. Took GM 6 weeks to replace the engine. 7k miles later, My engine is leaking oil from the oil level sensor switch. A $20 part that requires 10.6hr labor to replace. Truck been at the dealer for 3 weeks "Waiting on parts" SMDH i want out of this heap of trash too. Have lemon law lawyer filing for compensation for catastrophic engine failure and the 6 weeks wait. Now if this new issue doesn't get fixed with a 4 week time period they have another strike on lemon law to go after GM with. Its crazy that this is the first new to me vehicle i have ever bought and this is what I get.
@@MontanaMan93 wow I'm sorry you dealing with that crap that is scary how I felt. Definitely get your compensation. I was second owner I brought it directly from first owner with low miles and still paid a lot of money I sold it a week ago and now I'm in a V8 tundra. That is ridiculous what we go thru with new vehicles. Do not get another one after this. They look nice but the parts and reliability are not there. My state Georgia and they suck with lemon law as it allows original owner to file any lemon law stuff.
All our GMs have AFM and about 300,000 miles, all early 2000 models - run great. That’s a maintenance issue. When a lifter collapses it’s because of oil issues which leads to overheating or burnout, not AFM. GM techs will under fill your oil, and over fill you transmission. You have to go behind them and check or learn to do it yourself. Many techs are trying to get your vehicle back in the shop or get you to buy a new one.
@@thegeorgiaguy9 that's right. I'm going to add extended water to it after power train warranty ends in couple months. It's too much to find a used vehicle to replace it and inflation and all the new crap is unreliable so I'm just going to keep this and keep warranty on it
Owner of the company where I work waited a year to get his new near $90000 2023 GMC Denali. After only 8000 miles of just going to work and back, the engine totally failed. Lifter failure trashed the cam which trashed the rest of the engine. Then the truck was gone for 2 months at the dealership with no loaner. He used the company plow truck to get to work and back. When he finally got the truck back, after a couple weeks, the truck left him stranded twice with electrical problems. Some harness that attaches to the alternator. Wow, what a joke!! I told him dont be surprised if the second engine fails cause I doubt GM actually fixed the problem.
Definitely take your word for it! I tend to like the American brand of trucks but the reliability is always in question! Especially with these newer trucks! 😡
Totally off topic , did you wrap your interior parts with the blue and carbon fiber ? Or did it come that way ? If you wrapped it , did you have to remove the trim or wrap it in place ?
@@MultiMuskyman I didn't remove any trim. The blue is hard plastic over the knobs and the carbon fiber is all overlays. I sold the truck but I do have all the interior trims for sell.
90000 miles on my 2015 Silverado 5.3 still going strong. It's not just Chevy and GMC they all have their own problems. I also add seafoam just before oil change to keep it clean.
I remember when you started a sbc motor, the oil pressure pegged at max. It’s the “on demand” oil pump. The problem is the 1/2 second when you put your foot in it til the oil pump starts working.
What year is your truck? And size engine? I have a 2016 and have a rebuilt trans at 86k and i bought the obd2 plug in to eliminate the AFM for it to be in v8 full time and no issues.
Chevy V8s are reasonably reliable without AFM. And the recent defective engine recall. Not sure you don’t have both a manufacturer and a dealer problem. Looks like you got one of those engines with debris inside.
@@Ts68mo catch can is very good to have on these direct injection engines. I really wish these didn't have the issue they have with lifters and torque converters
Keep you fingers crossed I made it to 192k on my 2018 5.3 then lost cylinder 4 due to AFM. Jasper motor now with AFM delete all same lifters. Gets about 2 mpg less but no worries now. Replaced crappy tranny at 162k so feels like a new truck
@@69A12SuperBee great because I sold it. It's dfm for 2019 and newer because arm it shuts off the same 4 cylinders but dynamic fuel management can shut off any combination of cylinders up to 7 at a time. I'm back in a 5.7 Toyota no more time for gm crappy engines and transmission issues too
Just wonder if they really replaced the engine or just said they did. These dealerships are corrupt. They don’t have a lot of techs that know what they’re doing anymore so, good chance they didn’t even replace it. Maybe just bandaid repaired it to get it out the door
Almost everyone I know who owns a Silverado or Sierra ends up getting another one even after these repeated problems. Can’t take stupid out of some folks 😂
The 07-14 has lifter issues with only 4 particular cylinders. Then the next gen adds lifter issues for all cylinders since dfm can actuate all cylinders and the 6 speed problems too not to mention direct injection problems too. I stuck with the 07-14 gen tried and true 4 speed only lifter problems.
@@charlesludwig9173 they replaced engine due to lifter and cam going out. U probably should check my other videos too first. Also yes this one with new engine has lifter going bad on passenger front.
Man you got an unlucky truck and they keep making it to break to get more money. As you have probably seen in my past comments i got a 2020 sierra 1500 with 25000 miles on it and no problems yet except for one of the remote key batteries is getting low. These videos have shown me what to look for. Thanks Man
@@starthepizzaman2187 I actually have no clue man. I was considering a new mustang GT premium but I need a truck or SUV for the space and family comfort but I just can't see getting another GM /Chevy truck product just to have the same engine issues again. I been looking into 2021 and under 5.7 liter V8 toyota tundras but they are hard to get and people have them overpriced insanely. I planned to do the Texas speed cam and non DOD lifters in this one because I have out so much into this truck and everyone loves it but I'm tired of the quality issues. I still have warranty a few more months but I can't see dealing with this anymore to go months without the truck just to get it back tore up still.
@@BigslimZone id recommend an older nissan frontier they are cheap and my dad has had a 2015 one forevor and the only thing i notice is the serpentine belt is slipping but its not enough to slow the alternator down but is it a mid size truck and my 2020 gmc sierra 1500 can carry more stuff than it but its still worth the try
@@starthepizzaman2187 Its very stressful looking at used cars because everyone is either keeping them or they are selling too fast and way overpriced. I'm debating it constantly and I think I'm better off just doing the Texas speed cam and changing lifters to non DOD ones like I initially wanted to do but I didn't expect this replacement by dealership to start acting up this quick not even 1000 miles. It's still running smooth once going but I'm noticing the knock at idle since they replaced it from the beginning and now the rattle in thiis video when lightly revving. With the stress this causes it's easier to just sell it but then I would have to replace it with another truck or SUV and that's even more stress. I use to have the 5.7 tundra and have many new parts for one still but people are selling them way too high and asking new car prices for ones with over 70k miles no warranty and over 6 years old. I think I'm going to just add the extended warranty once this power train warranty ends in November and then just go that route for my protection and peace or mind because have put too much into this car and already took a hit with my 2ss Camaro previously because of service issues and Chevy. This truck will be my last Chevy product I ever get besides the Malibu we have which is more reliable than the truck.
I have a buddy that has the same problem I'm telling people it's the oil I'm running a 2005 Honda Elantra supposed to be 020w weight I run 10W-30 another full synthetic Lucas I've run the original Lucas my motor quiet down from rattles and ticks the all they require you to put in cars now my piss is thicker than that
You have to get a programmer to deactivate the cylinder deactivation with the GM trucks then they will function fine. I did that to my 2014 and I’m doing that to my 2023 deactivating the cylinder deactivation!
@@albruni5588 I hate to tell u but that won't stop the bad hardware from going out. Those range things do the same as driving in L7 in the 8 speeds and M9 in the 10 speeds. Also dealership even said people were coming in with those programmer's plugged since new and engine still went. Basically even if u get programmer or drive in manual mode that will only extend the time you have but they still will go out. That's why brand new ones less than 500 miles go out. Also 2019 and up is dynamic fuel management and that can shut off up to 7 cylinders much different than previous generations that shit off the same 4 cylinders each time so beware. That's why I sold my beautiful truck and back in a Toyota now
Wow. Such a gorgeous truck. Maybe yiu can get it repaired again before warranty ends and keep it. Would love to see it on the changel still but I do understand if u chose to let it go. Im sure either choice u make you will work it out.
@@googleaccount2637 the proper oil liste on the cap and factory is 0w20 synthetic and even if it's disabled will still tear up have seen brand new ones less than 500 miles go out. The issue is their parts no vehicle brand new should need that and I'm a mechanic. I sold that shitt which is the real delete.
That don’t sound like lifters.. that sounds more like a gas issue or carbon build up or throttle. You would hear them lifters without pressing the pedal.
@@malcolmmalcolm3620 yes no carbon build up this is new replaced engine but I'm noticing torque converter issues also now and I upgraded to mid grade gas also now but still have issue with power loss and delay in throttle response.
I have an 06 Cadillac same rattle in their 3.6L V6 sucks a whole quart of Oil every 500-1,500 miles also have metal shavings in dipstick. Car has 100,000 buyer beware of all GM 3.6L engines. Check your oil 2 times a week !
@ShikamaruTKD I think besides the LS and the LT platforms I’m going to stay away from GM from now on. What are you getting next ? I need to get off GM it’s hard these days they make all the cars to fail from factory.
HAD a 2022 1500 LTZ; didn’t make it 12k miles. I love Chevy; but now I’m driving a Tacoma (& a Highlander) My 1500 had the motor replaced & then that motor blew. Bothe were purchased new & I saved up for months each time. I hope they’ve fixed the problems because I’d like to get another one soon. If not…I’ll be gettin’ that TXR.
@@charlescummings2205 I agree about the oil but the deactivate process doesn't stop them from going out. I just sold that truck and I'm in a toyota 5.7 again
Both Chevy and Ford uses Wet Belt technology in some of their smaller engines. These manufacturers should have to pay for the expenses created by this stupidity.
24 tundra engine went at 26,000 miles, been at the dealer for a month , they have no idea when it will be done ,it isn’t just Chevy, EPA regulations hurt these new engines, it’s depressing, the dealership doesn’t care that’s the worst part, Freedom Toyota in Hamburg Pa , I want out of this junk
@@ninetyseven7656 yes you are correct and that is why we didn't get a new tundra or sequoia. This is sad. Hopefully u can sell it once you get it back but I know that feeling with it being in the shop sitting
@@julianboyd5348 it's running smooth at tines but transmission is acting up at times and still idles rough so I'm getting rid of it definitely. The whole the thing is unreliable
@@davidduval5566 yep pure garbage and I was about to get a tundra and was meeting guy for a 2021 and he changed his mind after we agreed on a price because someone offered him two thousand more. Foul industry these days and people with no consideration of wasting people time
@@BradJackson-q1h I sold their product and I'm back in a Toyota 5.7 I rather not have their money because they stay sued and lose Everytime. I loved the truck but with health issues the constant hassle of being in and out of dealerships and no vehicle and renting cars wasn't going to work anymore especially when these trucks cost us $50,000 plus
No doubt lifter issues exist but its not as common as most would think ! Maybe a few here n there ! Ive seen AFM engines last over 250 k without a lifter issue ! Maybe try a 5w30 ! Or a AFM delete module like "range extender"! I myself shy away from pre 2007 models !
2019 and up switched from active fuel management to dynamic fuel management which is worse because AFM only shuts off same 4 cylinders each time but dynamic can shut off any random combinations of cylinders up to 7 at a time and it's crazy because people with 2024 have issues. Dealerships in my area are constantly replacing these because of lifters. If GM can't give these places good parts, the job will be a bad result regardless and that sucks for the customer and the dealer because it leaves them in the middle to answer to the poor quality and repeat issues.
Trucks with lifter failures roll in 1-2 a month or more, and more often than not it ends up needing an engine.. a good technician will check the motor for more damage and then GM will pay for an engine. So it doesn’t become a comeback
@@mattdudley3789 that's exactly what happened to me. Mines went in and they told gm it needs an engine but gm has them only replace lifters on one bank and not even two days after that lifter went again and took cam out. They replaced engine and that's what I have now. So will change my fuel to higher octane and see what happens as I near end of power train warranty in two months
Fill out a lemon report and do a rebuilt engine from a race team build shop. That's only if you want to keep it, because the transmission on those and the fuel pump/ module is next to fail before 120xxx miles
@@Lordknowsit wow and yes I planned to do rebuilt engine and keep it but the transmission definitely is weird and suspect. Fuel pu o definitely crossed my mind also because those are known issues with these as well. I even considered adding extended warranty after power train warranty ends but I'm tired of getting the bad parts from Chevy
@@nahbro3240 I thought about that also since warranty ends in couple months but Im going to sell because their transmission the 8L90 is trash also and they are being sued for that also so even if a person do a delete for engine still got to deal with transmission
@@FreePalestine718 and that's why u have no issues. Stick with that or the diesel but don't touch the fake v8s. The 5.3 and 6.2 are the issues had the 8L90 8 speed transmission also
We own a gm suv and i told my gf to get rid of it nothing but problems. We have a 08 titan and its still going strong. Get you a titan or a tundra well never buy gm again.
I guess I’m laughing all the way to the bank. I ran into a large enough settlement to buy anything cash just couldn’t see spending more than 60-70k or over for a damn truck !!!! Ended up getting myself a Silverado 4 BANGER been all through Texas and Colorado absolutely HASSLE FREE!!!! Was being made fun of at first but it seems all other trims and motors are 💩. Family ride is a 2024 Sequoia TRd PRO and lord is she a damn beast and beauty!!!! 4 banger in Silverado is very impressive. Sucks above trim levels are pricier but more lemons unfortunately.
@@justinsalazar9070 right. I am thinking about selling mines but market is ruined for used tundras. How is that trd pro because I have heard they are unreliable with the turbos etc
If i buy a new truck im going to keep my 2011 ram 1500 5.7 that has had no problems, so i can still get to work! Quality control has really went down hill. WHY!😮
I have an 2009 Yukon Denali and it never let me down. I'll be holding on to it for a little while longer. I'm a car dealer and I'll stay away from newer cars cause I've seen alot of stuff😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Truck is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 but Chevy has had some issues since 2007 with crappy lifters and more. EPA crap disnt help also. Got it ut looking right for sure but chevy needs to do their part
Man I had a 2019 Silverado that did the same thing when revving it. I sold it back to dealership after I was told it was quote "normal" for the engine to be doing that. It was spark knock and can’t no one make me believe anything different. Just trade it in or sell it back to the dealer ASAP! That’s why I went back to my 03 Silverado, GM has gone down hill since the early to mid 2000’s.
@@Ollie__Tabooger correct but in Georgia that only applies to original owner. I brought this truck from original owner with very low miles and paid almost full price but because not original owner, lemon law won't apply to me. I'm leaning towards selling it but not sure if I want to or do the Texas speed cam and DOD DELETE
@@BigslimZoneif u got the money that delete for sure would get u right! I had to replace lifters in my avalanche! I did alway with all that flex and crap! Ima about to a delete on my 2019 GMC soon! That delete was the best move I made
Many people have gotten 200,000 miles out of five year old Chevy trucks, but they are less reliable than the older engines 100%. I’d still take it over Toyota’s recalled main bearing failure in their new TTV6. I will always prefer the older V8 Chevy engines though.
@@Theideaman I know someone with 70,000 miles on a 2022 with no issues. The problem is that they are complicated today, and they started having issues ever since afm/dfm.
@@bluequadrifoglio6057 in the second owner brought it with 27k mikes from elderly man. Also new engine was out in few months ago and I broke it in properly. Gm has several lawsuits for this and the transmissions. Maybe you didn't know that
I'm sure you've heard it but you can't put big wheels on a truck it throws off your computer ECU transmission and just about everything else.. I know Wheels look cool but they're no good for trucks.
@@chubbrockstar187 the wheels aren't causing these engine issues. They definitely throw off speedometer a few miles per hour but all the problems I have were before wheels even went on and many others ones go out constantly. The transmission and engine in these trucks are garbage from the factory
@@starthepizzaman2187 it still is under warranty from factory and I was going to add extended warranty once the regular power train warranty ends which won't end until late November but I decided to sell instead because the torque converter was giving early signs with that troublesome 8L90 transmission
GM has multiple issues with their 5.3 and 6.2 engines for a long time. It’s been poor quality ever since and GM has never wanted to fix the issue but to basically continue with the problems it has. People will keep buying these pieces of trash and until they stop, GM will never invest in fixing quality not quantity issue. Quality issue across the board since they’ve moved outside the states to save money. 😢😢😢
GM builds what buyers want. They want V8’s. But these V8’s must comply with Federal mileage mandates. So far, the solutions to these mandates have not been satisfactory, meaning a multitude of engine issues. Also, there are fewer buyers since these trucks are too expensive and this means GM must get better material and component pricing. To get that suppliers must abandon quality. So there you go. What to do? Buy a 2500 series that does not have the Federal mandates as light trucks.
@@Ts68mo I remember asking them about new engine before they out in replacement and they told me that whatever was sent was out of their control and it could be either new or remanufactured and they also told me that gm only usually will approve a new engine if the vehicle broke down withing few thousand miles which happens to many people when they buy brand new
@@Fl-352bahiakillr dang that's ridiculous man. As car truck guys it's never easy selling what u paid your truck especially after u have customized it somewhat but once it gets to the point it's in the dealership shop more than home, it's gotta go. What year is yours and is it 5.3 or 6.2 motor.
@@BigslimZone mine is a 2015. I put Catskin leather seat covers 6 inch lift 20 inch wheels exhaust intake. Can't keep a transmission in it. Say it's the tires only running 35s. With labor and parts 3500 to 4500 for trans rebuild and new converter. On the 3rs transmission only has 150000 miles 🤣
@@Fl-352bahiakillr wow. That's bull crap because they know thee transmission are junk. I got katzkin black leather also very durable leather and expensive. Gm just lost a lawsuit about these transmissions I saw it yesterday the judge wasn't happy with gm overpriced and they wanted to escape lawsuit but that failed. They love trying to find excuses to not cover things. Your wheels are extra weight but it did not cause that transmission to fail that was gm crap. Mines was acting up since I first got it and now I got new engine but transmission and torque converter are even worse and definitely on its way out in my 2019. Two months of power train warranty left and I drive it as much as I can before then and by then I will have sold it easily
@@Windowwarrior2Still does not help. Many failed with that plugged in. Even new ones less than 500 miles failed with that range plugged in and that's why I don't even bother with it.
@@markdanielczyk944 yes but don't get too excited be careful because it maybe factory deleted but you still have the same spring loaded DOD crappy lifters hardware still in there. The only thing deleted is the tech that makes them shut off but people with factory deleted still have had ruined cams and broke lifters. Hopefully it doesn't happen to you but definitely have seen it happen many times.
@@kalinder6135 yep I'm keeping mines and just going to keep the warranty on it cause all the new stuff have issues these days so I rather keep the truck I have since I have done a lot to it and if the transmission or engine goes out again back to dealer it goes. Eventually I want to swap the cam to Texas speed and get non DOD lifters but not right now cause I still need to keep my warranty good for the transmission which is known to fail in these and I have symptoms of that also
I brought my dad a 2016 GMC 1500 brand new 4 miles it has 84000 miles #7 cylinder bad no compression I don't understand why they still try to make this system work they have been trying since the 80s with this 4,6,8 crap if I buy a V8 that is what I want especially in my truck
Not quite. More like spark knock DETONATION. PRE IGNITION would immediately destroy an engine with seconds. They both are similar but ore ignition is much more instantly catastrophic. I'm going to clear out the gas and fill up with higher octane and see what happens
@@jcperformance927 no thanks I'm not a ford guy but I did sell it and brought another Toyota truck again with the 5.7 V8. All the new ones are full of issues from Ford and Chevy and Dodge and Toyota. That's why I got a used 5.7 again in Toyota nothing beats it
GM bankruptcy couldn't come any sooner at this point. And why did we even bail out those regards in the first place in '08? Our tax money went to these people, and look at that! Quality only became worse! First came the garbage 6 and 8 speed autos, now even their engines are straight trash. Oh, and even their new 10 speeds are having problems? What a coincidence, right? Totally has nothing to do with designing these vehicles to fail intentionally... Not just that, but they also sell your vehicle data to insurance companies to make your rates go up for just simply driving at night because it's "unsafe" (Louis Rossmann made a video about this).
You had too much trouble with it. I admit it is a beautiful truck and I'm a gm guy , but they aren't as good as they used to be. I say all manufacturers are making junk. Try to find an old gm truck and put some money in it fix it up and keep it.
